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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20703029 Australia 07/28/2012 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Christ will destroy the evil ways of his church and this is one of them. Quoting: Da Pope You think Christ want to come back to a bunch of people who rejected his world of eternal love for all??? You mean lust don't you, love is a euphemism for these deceivers. sometimes it means hate to them, the more satanic types use the opposite meaning. |
Da Pope (OP) User ID: 4884715 United States 07/28/2012 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher When people say that Christians are wrong, that they're "homophobic" - that's a fallacy. What you're doing is taking what Christians are against, which is an action, an activity, a "lifestyle" *Think 'VERB'* and replacing that with a real PERSON. Quoting: Gaius_4 Look at it like this. What does an athlete do? More specifically (just for the sake of an example) a football player. He (or she) plays football. But an "athlete" is nothing more than a label, a badge. To say it's okay for a "homosexual" to keep living the lifestyle that is associated with that label is no better than saying that you don't care if they go to hell. The greatest example of "homophobia" is to encourage said behavior. If you really hate "homosexual" and want them to go to hell - then by all means -encourage them to sin as they would want to. Jesus died for ALL, and commanded everyone to Repent of their sins. Homosexuality was not a sin to Christ, its a part of life and he knew this. He could see two men completely in love and living together have sexual relations. He knew that to break this union up would only lead to chaos LET LOVE ON ALL LEVELS BE FREE PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY ARE STOP TRYING TO CHANGE OTHERS!!! Of course Homosexuality is a sin to Christ...come on...what you could have said...and should have said...is that Christ died for your sins, my sins, all sins, whether it be the sin of homosexuality or the sin or pride, the sin of covetness...it doesn't really matter...He died for your sins, my sins, the whole worlds' sins...no matter what it is - he died and paid for your sins.. but let's not make it out like homosexuality, stealing, lying, cheating, whatever, are less a sin because He has already paid for it...it's still a sin - no doubt; no doubt. Much of what we do day to day is sin...that's why we needed Christ to come in and sacrifice His life for the payment of our sins...sheesh! How dare you throw Homosexuality in with lying cheating and stealing and "WHATEVER" Are you unhuman? do you not have a soul? I'm beinning to think that What you have said is not common sense and Jesus was complete common sense and you are not |
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Love is kind User ID: 19601503 United States 07/28/2012 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Think about it Quoting: Da Pope He loved everyone Never rejected anyone Had an open heart for all He never cared about their sexual orientation WWJD??? The Chrisitan church should be ashamed to be associating themselves with Christ and claiming this is his will You do not follow what this Man/God taught us and have twisted his words What you teach now is very little of what he taught QUOTE "MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME CLAIMING TO BE CHRIST" "BUT THEY WILL BE FALSE TEACHERS" ****God would say to all his children**** "My children I placed you here on this earth with a purpose and that purpose was my own I created you for a certain function in society and you will play the card I gave you I will not condemn you for "WHAT" I sent you here to do for all is serving my being this is your destiny I gave you" "I have a grand plan for my creation Do you trust me and my creation?" Do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure. |
Gaius_4 User ID: 15825190 United States 07/28/2012 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher ________ was not a sin to Christ, its a part of life and he knew this. Quoting: Da Pope LET LOVE ON ALL LEVELS BE FREE PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY ARE STOP TRYING TO CHANGE OTHERS!!! I put underscores in place of word you originally used. This is so you can read it again and replace 'homosexuality' with other words, like Theft, Murder, Lying, Rape, Violence, Drug Abuse, Laziness, Apathy, Anger, (so-on and so-forth). Now. Does your original statement still make sense? Are you denying that sodomy and unnatural lusts are indeed SINFUL? If so, why? Male Female intercourse was intended by design. Notice that the reproductive organs complement each other. But lust should never precede Love. So even heterosexual promiscuity is a sin. A sure ticket to hell just like any other form of deviancy. "(Now come on Jesus, will you please) STOP TRYING TO CHANGE OTHERS (by saying they must repent of their sins)!!!" I'm not sure if that counts as blasphemy, but it is certainly goes against what Christ said. If you think it doesn't then I'd like to hear why. Had he not paid a fatal price to redeem us then there wouldn't be a fatal end (hell) to save us from. Last Edited by Gaius_4 on 07/28/2012 02:40 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12786729 South Africa 07/28/2012 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Think about it Quoting: Da Pope He loved everyone Never rejected anyone Had an open heart for all He never cared about their sexual orientation WWJD??? The Chrisitan church should be ashamed to be associating themselves with Christ and claiming this is his will You do not follow what this Man/God taught us and have twisted his words What you teach now is very little of what he taught QUOTE "MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME CLAIMING TO BE CHRIST" "BUT THEY WILL BE FALSE TEACHERS" ****God would say to all his children**** "My children I placed you here on this earth with a purpose and that purpose was my own I created you for a certain function in society and you will play the card I gave you I will not condemn you for "WHAT" I sent you here to do for all is serving my being this is your destiny I gave you" "I have a grand plan for my creation Do you trust me and my creation?" Mat 10:34 I came not to bring peace, but a sword.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13456124 United States 07/28/2012 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Think about it Quoting: Da Pope He loved everyone Never rejected anyone Had an open heart for all He never cared about their sexual orientation WWJD??? The Chrisitan church should be ashamed to be associating themselves with Christ and claiming this is his will You do not follow what this Man/God taught us and have twisted his words What you teach now is very little of what he taught QUOTE "MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME CLAIMING TO BE CHRIST" "BUT THEY WILL BE FALSE TEACHERS" ****God would say to all his children**** "My children I placed you here on this earth with a purpose and that purpose was my own I created you for a certain function in society and you will play the card I gave you I will not condemn you for "WHAT" I sent you here to do for all is serving my being this is your destiny I gave you" "I have a grand plan for my creation Do you trust me and my creation?" Enjoy eternity in hell. That's where your twisted exegesis is sending you. |
Shellybelle225 User ID: 5626648 United States 07/28/2012 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Think about it Quoting: Da Pope He loved everyone Never rejected anyone Had an open heart for all He never cared about their sexual orientation WWJD??? The Chrisitan church should be ashamed to be associating themselves with Christ and claiming this is his will You do not follow what this Man/God taught us and have twisted his words What you teach now is very little of what he taught QUOTE "MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME CLAIMING TO BE CHRIST" "BUT THEY WILL BE FALSE TEACHERS" ****God would say to all his children**** "My children I placed you here on this earth with a purpose and that purpose was my own I created you for a certain function in society and you will play the card I gave you I will not condemn you for "WHAT" I sent you here to do for all is serving my being this is your destiny I gave you" "I have a grand plan for my creation Do you trust me and my creation?" Hmm.... When was the last time you read any books in the bible?? Jesus is said to have visited the synagogues regularly, reading the torah and teaching in the synagogues himself. And he did judge people and he did say that sinners were the ones following the path of destruction and eternal cutting off from God. You need to go back and read the entire bible this time. |
Shellybelle225 User ID: 5626648 United States 07/28/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher When people say that Christians are wrong, that they're "homophobic" - that's a fallacy. What you're doing is taking what Christians are against, which is an action, an activity, a "lifestyle" *Think 'VERB'* and replacing that with a real PERSON. Quoting: Gaius_4 Look at it like this. What does an athlete do? More specifically (just for the sake of an example) a football player. He (or she) plays football. But an "athlete" is nothing more than a label, a badge. To say it's okay for a "homosexual" to keep living the lifestyle that is associated with that label is no better than saying that you don't care if they go to hell. The greatest example of "homophobia" is to encourage said behavior. If you really hate "homosexual" and want them to go to hell - then by all means -encourage them to sin as they would want to. Jesus died for ALL, and commanded everyone to Repent of their sins. Homosexuality was not a sin to Christ, its a part of life and he knew this. He could see two men completely in love and living together have sexual relations. He knew that to break this union up would only lead to chaos LET LOVE ON ALL LEVELS BE FREE PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY ARE STOP TRYING TO CHANGE OTHERS!!! Of course Homosexuality is a sin to Christ...come on...what you could have said...and should have said...is that Christ died for your sins, my sins, all sins, whether it be the sin of homosexuality or the sin or pride, the sin of covetness...it doesn't really matter...He died for your sins, my sins, the whole worlds' sins...no matter what it is - he died and paid for your sins.. but let's not make it out like homosexuality, stealing, lying, cheating, whatever, are less a sin because He has already paid for it...it's still a sin - no doubt; no doubt. Much of what we do day to day is sin...that's why we needed Christ to come in and sacrifice His life for the payment of our sins...sheesh! How dare you throw Homosexuality in with lying cheating and stealing and "WHATEVER" Are you unhuman? do you not have a soul? I'm beinning to think that What you have said is not common sense and Jesus was complete common sense and you are not When people say that Christians are wrong, that they're "homophobic" - that's a fallacy. What you're doing is taking what Christians are against, which is an action, an activity, a "lifestyle" *Think 'VERB'* and replacing that with a real PERSON. Quoting: Gaius_4 Look at it like this. What does an athlete do? More specifically (just for the sake of an example) a football player. He (or she) plays football. But an "athlete" is nothing more than a label, a badge. To say it's okay for a "homosexual" to keep living the lifestyle that is associated with that label is no better than saying that you don't care if they go to hell. The greatest example of "homophobia" is to encourage said behavior. If you really hate "homosexual" and want them to go to hell - then by all means -encourage them to sin as they would want to. Jesus died for ALL, and commanded everyone to Repent of their sins. Homosexuality was not a sin to Christ, its a part of life and he knew this. He could see two men completely in love and living together have sexual relations. He knew that to break this union up would only lead to chaos LET LOVE ON ALL LEVELS BE FREE PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY ARE STOP TRYING TO CHANGE OTHERS!!! Of course Homosexuality is a sin to Christ...come on...what you could have said...and should have said...is that Christ died for your sins, my sins, all sins, whether it be the sin of homosexuality or the sin or pride, the sin of covetness...it doesn't really matter...He died for your sins, my sins, the whole worlds' sins...no matter what it is - he died and paid for your sins.. but let's not make it out like homosexuality, stealing, lying, cheating, whatever, are less a sin because He has already paid for it...it's still a sin - no doubt; no doubt. Much of what we do day to day is sin...that's why we needed Christ to come in and sacrifice His life for the payment of our sins...sheesh! How dare you throw Homosexuality in with lying cheating and stealing and "WHATEVER" Are you unhuman? do you not have a soul? I'm beinning to think that What you have said is not common sense and Jesus was complete common sense and you are not It clearly states in the scriptures in black and white that men shall not lay with men because this is unnatural. Why do you think that God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gemmorah?? Oh that's right. You didn't read that part of the bible. You just pick and choose what suits you. I forgot. All your statements are based on... |
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Shellybelle225 User ID: 5626648 United States 07/28/2012 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher OP has a point there is nowhere in the new testament that Jesus says anything about homosexuals. If he felt so strongly about them he would have preached something about it and he didnt. Quoting: grasptheuniverse This didn't need to be discussed at the time because the people that he was preaching to were all devout jewish people who believed that homosexuality was a sin. Read between the lines as well. Also, consider that he quoted Isaiah, Moses, etc, etc when teaching, who all followed the Mosaic law which condemned homosexuality and commaded that all infidels, those who violate the Mosaic law, God's law are to be put to death. Any argument that says God condones homosexuality is in fact... |
Anonymous User ID: 19607397 United States 07/28/2012 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher You are confusing the unconditional love of God (Christ) and his unfailing acceptance of Mankind for WHAT he is with the idea that mankind has a free license to do as it pleases. Did He not also teach the "Golden Rule". Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself. This means that common sense and HARMLESSNESS is the LAW (ie. if the word Love means nothing to you)! Homophobes protest homosexuality and for a good reason. It is against the natural order of God's creation and serves no purpose at all accept the perversion of sexuality which has already been debased from it's true purpose...REPRODUCTION AND PERPETUATION OF THE SPECIES!!! (MORON)! |
Shellybelle225 User ID: 5626648 United States 07/28/2012 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher ________ was not a sin to Christ, its a part of life and he knew this. Quoting: Da Pope LET LOVE ON ALL LEVELS BE FREE PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY ARE STOP TRYING TO CHANGE OTHERS!!! I put underscores in place of word you originally used. This is so you can read it again and replace 'homosexuality' with other words, like Theft, Murder, Lying, Rape, Violence, Drug Abuse, Laziness, Apathy, Anger, (so-on and so-forth). Now. Does your original statement still make sense? Are you denying that sodomy and unnatural lusts are indeed SINFUL? If so, why? Male Female intercourse was intended by design. Notice that the reproductive organs complement each other. But lust should never precede Love. So even heterosexual promiscuity is a sin. A sure ticket to hell just like any other form of deviancy. "(Now come on Jesus, will you please) STOP TRYING TO CHANGE OTHERS (by saying they must repent of their sins)!!!" I'm not sure if that counts as blasphemy, but it is certainly goes against what Christ said. If you think it doesn't then I'd like to hear why. Had he not paid a fatal price to redeem us then there wouldn't be a fatal end (hell) to save us from. I love it! Thank you! :D You could use the topic of drug abuse for the same argument these so called "Christians" do when they say, "Well, Jesus never actually spoke against homosexuality. If he thought it was that important, he would have brought up the subject." People these days just don't use theor common sense. tehy only believe what they want to. I take it that people didn't do cocaine back then or drop missiles on whole towns, atomic bombs, clone people, etc, etc. But if Jesus thought those things were a sin and important to talk about, he would have brought up the subject, right? The truth is, any person openly committing homosexual acts would have been stoned to death in ANY of those cities. People in our culture just don't get it. |
Shellbe User ID: 1199392 United States 07/28/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher "You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom" Clarence Darrow |
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MarkinAZ User ID: 20006444 United States 07/28/2012 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Hey OP: You are right. But most here don't get the fact that Christ did NOT condemn. He came to save the world from sin, not judge and condemn it. The scriptures say "for all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God". The key word there being 'ALL.' There is not one of us without sin in our lives. Maybe the degree varies, maybe the types of sin is different from one person to another. But all sin can result in a loss of contact with the Creator and can condemn the sinner, UNLESS that sin is atoned for. That's what Christ's death on the cross and the shedding of HIS precious blood did. It washed away the sins of the world. All of them. It was a gift and God's way of allowing mankind a path to salvation that we could not have ever managed to create on our own. Because of HIS sacrifice on the cross, and after having lived a sinless life on this earth, a life in which HE was subject to everything any normal male is subject to in terms of feelings, desires, fears, insecurities, etc, plus the temptations that Satan thru at him during his forty days in the desert before HE began HIS ministry. When HE died on the cross, HE paid the price for all of our sins. Just like a loving parent paying a traffic ticket for an errant youngster who made a terrible mistake. But like the kid who's parents pay the fine - the kid could refuse to accept their payment and insist on going to jail. We can refuse to accept the gift of Jesus' blood being shed to atone for our sins, and we can still, by refusing that precious gift, end up in hell if we wish. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6679041 United States 07/28/2012 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher yeah mon that black jebus from that african religion he like him some fags. Problem is GOD said clearly it was an abomination, unclean and you perves should all have your heads chopped off. I do believe thats what happens in the end to those that follow "satan", you know the guy in the book that was caste down into the desert for 1000 years, skip to the end, it gets really good. 4 More Years!!! |
Shellybelle225 User ID: 20925467 United States 07/30/2012 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Love is a beautiful thing on all levels Quoting: Da Pope I'd rather live in a world where love exists on all levels than on a world where those that are who they are are segregated and dismissed. That is not unity that is division and division will only bring about destruction for this population Jesus gave us homosexuality just as he gave us races among ourselves Homophobia is a form of spiritual racism Jesus doesn't like that People like you are totally one sided and accuse people like us of discrimination. You do not realize it but you are also guilty of discriminating against people who reject homsexualtiy based on religious principles. You say "Homophobia" is a form of spiritual racism"? You make no sense at all! Racism is rejecting people based on their race, thier nationality, nothing more. Spiritiuality has nothing to do with what nationality someone was born as. Socondly, it clearly states in the bible, "men shall not lay with men." and "all men who violate the mosaic code shall be put to death". Do you want me to quote the exact verse? I will go look it up if you want. So let me put it this way. It is peope like me who actually read all of the bible, truly following all of what is in it. What would you call us then? Fundamentalists? Isn't that what Jesus would have wanted? Ahahh! Hatred of people who follow ALL of what is found in the bible, (Fundamentalists) is a form of discrimination, something you are guilty of and this, THIS is a great sin! And to further take this sin of yours and to take bits of the scriptures and to twist the words to make your sin sound like something that Jesus would have wanted? Well, there is a special place for people like you and God will deal with you shortly when his time comes for this. Your words are always and will always be... Last Edited by Shellybelle225 on 07/30/2012 06:52 PM |
Da Pope (OP) User ID: 4884715 United States 07/30/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher God created us exactly the way we are for a reason I've seen many on this thread be anti Christ anti what Christ stood for You are the problem with religion, you will forever wage war with those around you that you believe is in sin when they really are not in sin. You are judging something that it is not right for you 2 judge You think you know what God wants but you fail 2 see the larger picture of his creation and the love for the whole creation and his intension behind his whole creation. May Jesus God himself wipe this infection we call religion of this planet once and for good Maybe we can get back to living life after that |
LittleMissSunshine User ID: 19513952 United States 07/30/2012 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Wrong!!!... OBVIOUSLY you have never even cracked open the WORD OF GOD ...because if you had you would KNOW THAT JESUS SAYS ; FROM SUCH THINGS TURN AWAY!!!!! In other words, you are to have NOTHING to do with homosexuals in any way, shape or form!!! There IS A REASON GOD SAID HE HAS SEARED THEIR MINDS WITH A HOT IRON. TURNED THEM OVER TO REPROBATE MINDS!!! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GAY CHRISTIAN! IF THEY THINK THEY ARE GOING TO HEAVEN ...THEY ARE VERY SADLY MISTAKEN! YOU CANNOT LOVE GOD AND LOVE THE THE THINGS OF THE WORLD....YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS. YOU WILL LOVE ONE AND HATE THE OTHER! |
Da Pope (OP) User ID: 4884715 United States 07/30/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Wrong!!!... OBVIOUSLY you have never even cracked open the WORD OF GOD ...because if you had you would KNOW THAT JESUS SAYS ; FROM SUCH THINGS TURN AWAY!!!!! Quoting: LittleMissSunshine In other words, you are to have NOTHING to do with homosexuals in any way, shape or form!!! There IS A REASON GOD SAID HE HAS SEARED THEIR MINDS WITH A HOT IRON. TURNED THEM OVER TO REPROBATE MINDS!!! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GAY CHRISTIAN! IF THEY THINK THEY ARE GOING TO HEAVEN ...THEY ARE VERY SADLY MISTAKEN! YOU CANNOT LOVE GOD AND LOVE THE THE THINGS OF THE WORLD....YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS. YOU WILL LOVE ONE AND HATE THE OTHER! Lillte miss sunshine, I shall call you little miss Hypocrite Jesus never said that your religion after him said that Christ would be so ashamed to hear you say such things in his name Hes prob. really embarrassed |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 07/30/2012 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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DonHeau User ID: 4730959 United States 07/30/2012 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Being Homophobic in the church is antichristian and anti what Christ stood for as a man and loving teacher I like the one where he was asked about being GOD. And, I'm not 'exact' here, but I'm conveying the 'exact' meaning. He said something like this, "I didn't say that I am GOD. I told you all that I am a son of GOD. And, I told you that you are all my brothers. Perhaps you have a problem with your own divinity?" Last Edited by DonHeau on 07/30/2012 07:41 PM We opened doors by thinking. |
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