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Who Really Invented the Internet. It wasn't the goverment!

 
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A telling moment in the presidential race came recently when Barack Obama said: "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." He justified elevating bureaucrats over entrepreneurs by referring to bridges and roads, adding: "The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all companies could make money off the Internet."

It's an urban legend that the government launched the Internet. The myth is that the Pentagon created the Internet to keep its communications lines up even in a nuclear strike. The truth is a more interesting story about how innovation happens—and about how hard it is to build successful technology companies even once the government gets out of the way.

For many technologists, the idea of the Internet traces to Vannevar Bush, the presidential science adviser during World War II who oversaw the development of radar and the Manhattan Project. In a 1946 article in The Atlantic titled "As We May Think," Bush defined an ambitious peacetime goal for technologists: Build what he called a "memex" through which "wholly new forms of encyclopedias will appear, ready made with a mesh of associative trails running through them, ready to be dropped into the memex and there amplified."

But full credit goes to the company where Mr. Taylor worked after leaving ARPA: Xerox. It was at the Xerox PARC labs in Silicon Valley in the 1970s that the Ethernet was developed to link different computer networks. Researchers there also developed the first personal computer (the Xerox Alto) and the graphical user interface that still drives computer usage today.

According to a book about Xerox PARC, "Dealers of Lightning" (by Michael Hiltzik), its top researchers realized they couldn't wait for the government to connect different networks, so would have to do it themselves. "We have a more immediate problem than they do," Robert Metcalfe told his colleague John Shoch in 1973. "We have more networks than they do." Mr. Shoch later recalled that ARPA staffers "were working under government funding and university contracts. They had contract administrators . . . and all that slow, lugubrious behavior to contend with."

[link to online.wsj.com]
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Re: Who Really Invented the Internet. It wasn't the goverment!
I remember back when it was fairly young it was mostly Universities driving it.
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Re: Who Really Invented the Internet. It wasn't the goverment!
The gubbermint invented it. Obama said so.
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Re: Who Really Invented the Internet. It wasn't the goverment!
I remember back when it was fairly young it was mostly Universities driving it.
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Do you remember the "old school" modems where you had to dial the number on your home phone and then place your phone on the modem?
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Just about everything in that article is wrong:
[link to blogs.scientificamerican.com]

'Most egregiously, Crovitz seems to confuse the Internet—at heart, a set of protocols designed to allow far-flung computer networks to communicate with one another—with Ethernet, a protocol for connecting nearby computers into a local network. (Robert Metcalfe, a researcher at Xerox PARC who co-invented the Ethernet protocol, today tweeted tongue-in-cheek “Is it possible I invented the whole damn Internet?”)

'The most important part of what we now know of as the Internet is the TCP/IP protocol, which was invented by Vincent Cerf and Robert Kahn. Crovitz mentions TCP/IP, but only in passing, calling it (correctly) “the Internet’s backbone.” He fails to mention that Cerf and Kahn developed TCP/IP while working on a government grant.

'But perhaps the most damning rebuttal comes from Michael Hiltzik, the author “Dealers of Lightning,” a history of Xerox PARC that Crovitz uses as his main source for material. “While I’m gratified in a sense that he cites my book,” writes Hiltzik, “it’s my duty to point out that he’s wrong. My book bolsters, not contradicts, the argument that the Internet had its roots in the ARPANet, a government project.”'


The Worldwide Web was originally developed under government contract as well, by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN.
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Wasn't he on the Olympic thing last night?
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Re: Who Really Invented the Internet. It wasn't the goverment!
didn't the gays invent the internet for gay porn?
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Re: Who Really Invented the Internet. It wasn't the goverment!
I remember back when it was fairly young it was mostly Universities driving it.
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Do you remember the "old school" modems where you had to dial the number on your home phone and then place your phone on the modem?
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No but I still have a us robotics 33.6 modem card and it still works.
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didn't the gays invent the internet for gay porn?
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What do you mean by the "Internet"?

DARPA invented the concept of a resilient communications network, that could route around destroyed nodes, in the event of nuckular war.

However, the browser (and HTML browser language) you is now usin' came from an original idea from a British scientist, Tim Berners-Lee, while workin' at CERN.
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didn't the gays invent the internet for gay porn?
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If the government didn’t invent the Internet, who did? Vinton Cerf developed the TCP/IP protocol, the Internet’s backbone, and Tim Berners-Lee gets credit for hyperlinks.

But full credit goes to the company where Mr. Taylor worked after leaving ARPA: Xerox. It was at the Xerox PARC labs in Silicon Valley in the 1970s that the Ethernet was developed to link different computer networks. Researchers there also developed the first personal computer (the Xerox Alto) and the graphical user interface that still drives computer usage today.

According to a book about Xerox PARC, “Dealers of Lightning” (by Michael Hiltzik), its top researchers realized they couldn’t wait for the government to connect different networks, so would have to do it themselves. “We have a more immediate problem than they do,” Robert Metcalfe told his colleague John Shoch in 1973. “We have more networks than they do.” Mr. Shoch later recalled that ARPA staffers “were working under government funding and university contracts. They had contract administrators . . . and all that slow, lugubrious behavior to contend with.”

So having created the Internet, why didn’t Xerox become the biggest company in the world? The answer explains the disconnect between a government-led view of business and how innovation actually happens.

Executives at Xerox headquarters in Rochester, N.Y., were focused on selling copiers. From their standpoint, the Ethernet was important only so that people in an office could link computers to share a copier. Then, in 1979, Steve Jobs negotiated an agreement whereby Xerox’s venture-capital division invested $1 million in Apple, with the requirement that Jobs get a full briefing on all the Xerox PARC innovations

Last Edited by Gerry52 on 07/28/2012 05:07 PM
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Re: Who Really Invented the Internet. It wasn't the goverment!
Wasn't he on the Olympic thing last night?
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I think that the whole world was there except those of us on GLP, lol!
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Re: Who Really Invented the Internet. It wasn't the goverment!
The military et all had it long before they allowed it to john q public
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Re: Who Really Invented the Internet. It wasn't the goverment!
The military et all had it long before they allowed it to john q public
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Yes and so I used to always think that or "assume" that the military invented it. Learn something new every day I guess.
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