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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20689407 United States 07/28/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not gay. I truly do not understand why gays are hated. The way I look at it is; Yes, being gay is a sin, but we are all sinners. I feel sorry for the gay people, because they wear their sin on their sleeve, we can hide ours. Jesus said to love my neighbor as I love myself. So, if my neighbor is gay, am I not to love them? Am I to put hate into my heart? Am I to judge their sin, while I hide my own? All this hatred towards gay people have me really confused. You are to hate the sin, not the people. Please help me understand the hatred. Quoting: txtrblmkr This topic has been done to fucking death. If you're really interested why not use the search function? You'll find seventeen bazillion threads on the subject. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20198948 United States 07/28/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dislike gays because they think everyone hates them. I don't care if Gary and Terry want to suck each other off at home. I find the idea of it disgusting but what they do at home is their business not mine. I don't like sardines but I don't care if you eat them. Now if sardines had march every week, and cry on every talk show about how I hated them maybe I would feel more strongly about the subject. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16349095 United States 07/28/2012 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's my thought. Christians are so opposed to gay marriage because if they were legal, then another piece of the Bible would be de-legitimized in America, something Christians don't want to happen any more than it already has. Look at some of the other religiously justifiable things that we as a society no longer partake in: Polygamy Slavery Women's servitude to men The problem is, many of the Bible's principles contradict our modern way of life. Like it or not, the Bible says you can stone your new wife if she is not a virgin or your children if they are disobedient, that women must submit to their husbands and that rape is acceptable during war and conquering. In order to make a more harmonious society, we simply do not allow these things to happen, despite being justifiable in the Bible. When Christians come along and say "The Bible says that homosexuals are wrong and will burn in Hell!" but turn right around and follow up with "But that slavery stuff, stoning your children, raping, that's all Old Testament stuff, so it doesn't count" they basically point out a flawed and obvious hypocrisy in our faith. Especially when you consider that Jesus said nothing on homosexuality. Literally, he didn't touch it. Since we, as Christians, take our cue from the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus, because all that Old Testament stuff doesn't count after Jesus came along anyway, right?, we look to his words for guidance on the issue and there's just nothing there. It's been reported that there are more openly atheist people in the U.S. than ever before. It's also been reported that despite the fact many young identify in the Christian-faith, they simply do not attend worship services. Christianity is in crisis, but instead of embracing Christ's message of love, its leaders continue to criticize and demonize the gay community, especially here in the United States. I fear the longer that Christian leaders continue this fight, the more out-of-touch our faith will continue to look. |
christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 07/28/2012 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's my thought. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16349095 Christians are so opposed to gay marriage because if they were legal, then another piece of the Bible would be de-legitimized in America, something Christians don't want to happen any more than it already has. Look at some of the other religiously justifiable things that we as a society no longer partake in: Polygamy Slavery Women's servitude to men The problem is, many of the Bible's principles contradict our modern way of life. Like it or not, the Bible says you can stone your new wife if she is not a virgin or your children if they are disobedient, that women must submit to their husbands and that rape is acceptable during war and conquering. In order to make a more harmonious society, we simply do not allow these things to happen, despite being justifiable in the Bible. When Christians come along and say "The Bible says that homosexuals are wrong and will burn in Hell!" but turn right around and follow up with "But that slavery stuff, stoning your children, raping, that's all Old Testament stuff, so it doesn't count" they basically point out a flawed and obvious hypocrisy in our faith. Especially when you consider that Jesus said nothing on homosexuality. Literally, he didn't touch it. Since we, as Christians, take our cue from the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus, because all that Old Testament stuff doesn't count after Jesus came along anyway, right?, we look to his words for guidance on the issue and there's just nothing there. It's been reported that there are more openly atheist people in the U.S. than ever before. It's also been reported that despite the fact many young identify in the Christian-faith, they simply do not attend worship services. Christianity is in crisis, but instead of embracing Christ's message of love, its leaders continue to criticize and demonize the gay community, especially here in the United States. I fear the longer that Christian leaders continue this fight, the more out-of-touch our faith will continue to look. YOU are 100% Wrong... GOD has 2 COVENANTS that CANNOT BE BROKEN.... 1. The One he made with the first Man and Woman, when he said it is good they should CLEAVE to one another,in MARRIAGE.. For a MAN shall leave his MOTHER and FATHER and CLEAVE to his wife..THIS IS A COVENANT that cannot be broken! 2. ISRAEL- I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you... THOSE ARE THE 2 COVENANTS that cannot be destroyed by MANKIND, if MANKLIND wants to destroy these covenants then he will destroy himself...period. Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
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txtrblmkr (OP) User ID: 1689934 United States 07/28/2012 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | your not supposed to hate them. however bare in mind we now live in a society where people are deliberatley polluted and corrupted. the government was developing a "gay spray" a few decades ago, go look it up i tell you no lie, declassified documents on it. fly over in a plane and make people gay! so you have to forgive and pity them for it to some extent. aggressive homos is another matter they should have some sense knocked into em. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20571922 you were never 'sposed to hate em but i think it would be correct to think its pretty nasty and you shouldnt feel bad if you dont want to talk to gays or have them around you. I do not think they developed a "gay sray". I have read, not studied about a chemical put into thermal paper "receipt paper", you receive everywhere; stores, fast food, local stores, etc. This paper contains a chemical. I do not remember the chemical name, but it is the same chemical which is used in medical procedures to change females into men, visa versa. It is scary. The hormones in our bodies are being altered. Last Edited by txtrblmkr on 07/28/2012 11:10 PM John 3:16 - For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Psalm 141:10 - Let the wicked fall into thier own nets, While I escape safely. |
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azwyatt User ID: 20794662 United States 07/28/2012 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not gay. I truly do not understand why gays are hated. The way I look at it is; Yes, being gay is a sin, but we are all sinners. I feel sorry for the gay people, because they wear their sin on their sleeve, we can hide ours. Jesus said to love my neighbor as I love myself. So, if my neighbor is gay, am I not to love them? Am I to put hate into my heart? Am I to judge their sin, while I hide my own? All this hatred towards gay people have me really confused. You are to hate the sin, not the people. Please help me understand the hatred. Quoting: txtrblmkr I have also asked my self, "I God hates gays then why does Satan hate them as well". The root of it is from a ungodly hatred. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7105752 United States 07/28/2012 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, a recent study found that people that feel disgust at homosexuals seem to have a lot of common traits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828694 1. They come from very conservative, religious or restrictive homes. 2. They had at least one very authoritarian parent that held anti-homosexual feelings. 3. They ALL have strong, but hidden homosexual urges and desires. Since this isn't allowed in their world view, they suppress them, but that turns into a lashing out at the people that make them feel the way they do.(Attracted.) The tests were done without a conscious intermediary, meaning they asked questions, but also hooked men's junk up to machines to be able to tell when they were getting turned on. It was a well done study, and confirmed what was suspected for a long time and has been shown in part in other works. So, that basically means that the stronger the anti-homosexual stance, the more authoritarian the parents and the stronger the attraction to the same sex is. *This is only true for men. When women show such feelings it's most likely not linked to personal attraction, but simply early training, probably from a man denying his own homosexual urges. You get called a closet case when you say those things... Because you are. Learn to except yourself and the hate and disgust you feel will go away. 1.Why do so many people DESPISE- Abortion? Is it because secretly they want to have an abortion? 2. Why do people hate Beastiality? Is it because they secretly want to have sex with a Zebra? 3. Why do so many people hate Pedophilia? Is it because secretly they want to have sex with a child? 4. Why do so many people hate Adultery? Is it because they secretly want to have an affair on there spouse? 5. Why do so many people hate Polygamy? Is it because they secretly want to marry multiple people? PEOPLE REJECT THE EMBRACE OF HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE IT IS WRONG FOR A CIVILIZED SOCIETY.. Just like the above 5 are... Civilzation will not survive if homosexuality does and flourishes as an acceptance... What people do in there privacy of there own homes, is their buisness, when they bring it to the Mainstream don't complain if you get some push back... A civilized society? When you find one let me know Lol I have heard Ant Farms live pretty civilized.... Imagine that Could it be because they work naturally with nature And not off some bogus book that was passed down to them As "the penned" word from their Ant God? Lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 828694 United States 07/28/2012 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, a recent study found that people that feel disgust at homosexuals seem to have a lot of common traits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828694 1. They come from very conservative, religious or restrictive homes. 2. They had at least one very authoritarian parent that held anti-homosexual feelings. 3. They ALL have strong, but hidden homosexual urges and desires. Since this isn't allowed in their world view, they suppress them, but that turns into a lashing out at the people that make them feel the way they do.(Attracted.) The tests were done without a conscious intermediary, meaning they asked questions, but also hooked men's junk up to machines to be able to tell when they were getting turned on. It was a well done study, and confirmed what was suspected for a long time and has been shown in part in other works. So, that basically means that the stronger the anti-homosexual stance, the more authoritarian the parents and the stronger the attraction to the same sex is. *This is only true for men. When women show such feelings it's most likely not linked to personal attraction, but simply early training, probably from a man denying his own homosexual urges. You get called a closet case when you say those things... Because you are. Learn to except yourself and the hate and disgust you feel will go away. 1.Why do so many people DESPISE- Abortion? Is it because secretly they want to have an abortion? 2. Why do people hate Beastiality? Is it because they secretly want to have sex with a Zebra? 3. Why do so many people hate Pedophilia? Is it because secretly they want to have sex with a child? 4. Why do so many people hate Adultery? Is it because they secretly want to have an affair on there spouse? 5. Why do so many people hate Polygamy? Is it because they secretly want to marry multiple people? PEOPLE REJECT THE EMBRACE OF HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE IT IS WRONG FOR A CIVILIZED SOCIETY.. Just like the above 5 are... Civilzation will not survive if homosexuality does and flourishes as an acceptance... What people do in there privacy of there own homes, is their buisness, when they bring it to the Mainstream don't complain if you get some push back... Those are all different topics, and the studies have not been done yet. I think that it's safe to assume that in part some of those things are exactly as you said however, though I realize you didn't mean it to be taken that way. People are disgusted by bestiality because they were taught to be and find themselves attracted to it. *Regular people aren't disgusted by these things, they simply don't want to do them. Only those suppressing urges feel the need to cover with exaggerated disgust. The same is probably true of pedophilia. Those that don't feel an attraction to children think it's morally wrong, but don't feel a strong sense of disgust about it, because they don't consider it on a personal level. Hate can be socially conditioned however. Like hating people of an inoffensive minority group. (Say Jewish people.) That could certainly be separate from the feelings of disgust that those that have such tendencies but are suppressing them feel. Most people don't despise abortion. I would imagine those that do still have the same authoritarian or religious upbringing. They likely don't secretly want an abortion though. Saying that is a silly deflection that doesn't even make logical sense. People dislike adultery because they fear being betrayed by someone they thought loved them. I have never heard of anyone hating polygamy. I can't even hazard a guess. Sorry. Maybe it's something to do with unequal resources? These things do not have proof however. (Still, easy enough to shoot down. I do think you are right to link the sexually based ones, but science will have to tell us if that's correct.) Your math is wrong however in your summation. (Bet you didn't even see the math, did you?) If fifty percent of all men suddenly turned gay, which won't happen because we are not biologically programmed for it, then in three generations the population would be down... Not at all. Why? Because one man can father children with hundreds of women. Now if fifty percent of women also make such a choice (It seems to be a true choice for them, not bi0logical in nature...) then you will have a reduction in population of fifty percent each generation. You would functionally never reach the end, but things would stabilize well before that, and women would decide to have children again first. So humanity itself is not at risk. Civilization however isn't just the amount of births and deaths, so how about we look at that separately? Will the fact that there are gay people stop society from functioning? It never has. Indeed, many cultures have thrived with very open homosexual practices. Will god come and smite us for those practices? Well, he's had forever to do so and hasn't, so my thought is that no, we're pretty safe on that one. I'm not certain you had a single point that exists the way you meant it in your post. I get the basic argument you're claiming I think. You have a religious belief system that says such things are bad and are closed minded about the topic. The undertone is based on an authoritarian religious upbringing or conversion and any evidence to the contrary makes you feel uncertain and scared. You can't admit to that though, so regurgitate very poorly though out ideas that someone else came up with in a similar mental state. *I could be wrong there. They may be your own ideas, but I've heard similar things before from Christians. The simple truth is that the studies show that homophobia is based in sexual desire for the same sex, at least in men. It may be hard to hear, especially if you feel that way and are in denial, but it's the fact of the matter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16349095 United States 07/28/2012 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's my thought. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16349095 Christians are so opposed to gay marriage because if they were legal, then another piece of the Bible would be de-legitimized in America, something Christians don't want to happen any more than it already has. Look at some of the other religiously justifiable things that we as a society no longer partake in: Polygamy Slavery Women's servitude to men The problem is, many of the Bible's principles contradict our modern way of life. Like it or not, the Bible says you can stone your new wife if she is not a virgin or your children if they are disobedient, that women must submit to their husbands and that rape is acceptable during war and conquering. In order to make a more harmonious society, we simply do not allow these things to happen, despite being justifiable in the Bible. When Christians come along and say "The Bible says that homosexuals are wrong and will burn in Hell!" but turn right around and follow up with "But that slavery stuff, stoning your children, raping, that's all Old Testament stuff, so it doesn't count" they basically point out a flawed and obvious hypocrisy in our faith. Especially when you consider that Jesus said nothing on homosexuality. Literally, he didn't touch it. Since we, as Christians, take our cue from the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus, because all that Old Testament stuff doesn't count after Jesus came along anyway, right?, we look to his words for guidance on the issue and there's just nothing there. It's been reported that there are more openly atheist people in the U.S. than ever before. It's also been reported that despite the fact many young identify in the Christian-faith, they simply do not attend worship services. Christianity is in crisis, but instead of embracing Christ's message of love, its leaders continue to criticize and demonize the gay community, especially here in the United States. I fear the longer that Christian leaders continue this fight, the more out-of-touch our faith will continue to look. YOU are 100% Wrong... GOD has 2 COVENANTS that CANNOT BE BROKEN.... 1. The One he made with the first Man and Woman, when he said it is good they should CLEAVE to one another,in MARRIAGE.. For a MAN shall leave his MOTHER and FATHER and CLEAVE to his wife..THIS IS A COVENANT that cannot be broken! 2. ISRAEL- I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you... THOSE ARE THE 2 COVENANTS that cannot be destroyed by MANKIND, if MANKLIND wants to destroy these covenants then he will destroy himself...period. Umm, there are a whole bunch of "covenants" and they're all treated with the same seriousness in the Bible. Also, we need to learn when stories in the Bible are allegorical and when they are factual. God making Adam and Eve = allegorical. Who were Cain and Able supposed to marry, Eve? Seriously fucked up when you think about it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2094322 United States 07/28/2012 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not gay. I truly do not understand why gays are hated. The way I look at it is; Yes, being gay is a sin, but we are all sinners. I feel sorry for the gay people, because they wear their sin on their sleeve, we can hide ours. Jesus said to love my neighbor as I love myself. So, if my neighbor is gay, am I not to love them? Am I to put hate into my heart? Am I to judge their sin, while I hide my own? All this hatred towards gay people have me really confused. You are to hate the sin, not the people. Please help me understand the hatred. Quoting: txtrblmkr it's like this. Most people don't really give a shit about what kind of abusive acts they might do to other people who think they like it. It's when they cross the line into the public sphere where it starts to be a problem. Often times they demand that the entire world modify their beliefs and perceptions to fit their ideas. Like teaching kids about buttfucking. I don't think kids need to know about buttfucking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20553739 United States 07/28/2012 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not gay. I truly do not understand why gays are hated. The way I look at it is; Yes, being gay is a sin, but we are all sinners. I feel sorry for the gay people, because they wear their sin on their sleeve, we can hide ours. Jesus said to love my neighbor as I love myself. So, if my neighbor is gay, am I not to love them? Am I to put hate into my heart? Am I to judge their sin, while I hide my own? All this hatred towards gay people have me really confused. You are to hate the sin, not the people. Please help me understand the hatred. Quoting: txtrblmkr Being gay is a sin? Does it ever seem odd to you that we are all born sinners? Why does God punish us for what Adam and Eve did? I'm not gay but it does strike me odd that we judge someone's else's normal behavior as being wrong. A certain percentage of animals in the animal kingdom exhibit 'gay' behavior, we human primates are no exception. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20571922 United Kingdom 07/28/2012 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, a recent study found that people that feel disgust at homosexuals seem to have a lot of common traits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828694 1. They come from very conservative, religious or restrictive homes. 2. They had at least one very authoritarian parent that held anti-homosexual feelings. 3. They ALL have strong, but hidden homosexual urges and desires. Since this isn't allowed in their world view, they suppress them, but that turns into a lashing out at the people that make them feel the way they do.(Attracted.) The tests were done without a conscious intermediary, meaning they asked questions, but also hooked men's junk up to machines to be able to tell when they were getting turned on. It was a well done study, and confirmed what was suspected for a long time and has been shown in part in other works. So, that basically means that the stronger the anti-homosexual stance, the more authoritarian the parents and the stronger the attraction to the same sex is. *This is only true for men. When women show such feelings it's most likely not linked to personal attraction, but simply early training, probably from a man denying his own homosexual urges. You get called a closet case when you say those things... Because you are. Learn to except yourself and the hate and disgust you feel will go away. so if i seriously honestly dont like broad beans. that means i secretly like them? total propaganda bullshit what you just said there your playing along with a political agenda to homo everything therefore... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20795790 United States 07/28/2012 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are asking for an answer that is equivalent to why is the sky blue. The only thing you need to understand is how you feel about the subject. You do not hate homosexuals. Ask yourself why, and the opposite of your answers will be true for others. Everyone has their own opinions. Some people share the opinions of others. Some oppose the opinions of others. I have many homosexual friends and coworkers. There are many that I like and they are my friends. There are many that I can not stand. The same is true of heterosexuals I know. I judge people based on who they are, not what they are. Remember, most hatred comes from people who can not grasp differences. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16349095 United States 07/28/2012 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are asking for an answer that is equivalent to why is the sky blue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20795790 The only thing you need to understand is how you feel about the subject. You do not hate homosexuals. Ask yourself why, and the opposite of your answers will be true for others. Everyone has their own opinions. Some people share the opinions of others. Some oppose the opinions of others. I have many homosexual friends and coworkers. There are many that I like and they are my friends. There are many that I can not stand. The same is true of heterosexuals I know. I judge people based on who they are, not what they are. Remember, most hatred comes from people who can not grasp differences. The sky is blue because light reflects from the oceans back into the atmosphere before leaving the Earth. Blue water = blue sky. |
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WretchedHollywood User ID: 3324945 United States 07/28/2012 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't hate gay people. Quoting: Debauchery I'd prefer they kept their private lives to themselves, that's all. The parades and all that garbage, it's nothing more than a slap in the face. No one wanders around in ass-less chaps, rainbow wigs and nipple clamps because they want acceptance. It's twisted and deviant. Yes, it is. But, I am not here to judge. I have the choice not to attend their parades. I do have a couple of gay friends, and I always tell them, I do not care what you do behind closed doors as long as it does not involve me or my daughter. just curious, do you ask your heterosexual friends the same thing? "doesn't it make you feel better?" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20250626 United States 07/28/2012 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't hate gay people. Quoting: Debauchery I'd prefer they kept their private lives to themselves, that's all. The parades and all that garbage, it's nothing more than a slap in the face. No one wanders around in ass-less chaps, rainbow wigs and nipple clamps because they want acceptance. It's twisted and deviant. All LGBT members don't walk around in ass-less chaps with their dicks hanging out, just like all white people don't live in mobile homes in the middle of oklahoma, and all black peopl e don't commit crime. There are plenty of LGBT people who simply keep their lives to themselves and don't bother anyone else. |
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