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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20606318 United States 07/29/2012 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It The intended effect of the "contended comma" in the 2nd Amendment specifically and precisely crafts the meaning of the sentence to mean: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 BECAUSE the government must maintain a standing army... Actually, I'm going to have to stop you right there. The founders were absolutely AGAINST the formation of a standing army. That was part of their reasoning for including the 2nd amendment as a civil right, so that the army could not overpower its citizens. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6745815 United States 07/29/2012 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It I am a professional writer who has studied law. I will explain the 2nd Amendment in very simple terms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 The intended effect of the "contended comma" in the 2nd Amendment specifically and precisely crafts the meaning of the sentence to mean: BECAUSE the government must maintain a standing army... and BECAUSE we just got done writing a WHOLE bunch of stuff about TYRANNY being the end result of ALL governments... (This was assumed as a given...it was the FUCKING CONSTITUTION - written to prevent tyrannical government.) ... the PEOPLE must be able to keep arms to protect themselves against the standing army of the government. PERIOD. Also, the term ARMS meant the 'arms of the day' which means that the PEOPLE should all have military grade heavy weapons - whatever the government has. *SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED* Means that no law can EVER be passed to limit the keeping and WIELDING of military grade heavy weapons by the people. If the framers had meant "pistols," they would have said PISTOLS. Therefore, THIS is how the 2nd Amendment should be interpreted: ** Because the government must maintain a standing army, there must never be ANY kind of restriction WHATSOEVER on the people's RIGHT to own and carry military grade heavy weaponry, because when the government has bigger guns, the people are oppressed. ** Fuckin A. Something is really wrong when the military and law enforcement can have all the military tech they want, but we cant. That is precisely the situation the founding fathers wanted to avoid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20539899 United States 07/29/2012 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It The intended effect of the "contended comma" in the 2nd Amendment specifically and precisely crafts the meaning of the sentence to mean: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 BECAUSE the government must maintain a standing army... Actually, I'm going to have to stop you right there. The founders were absolutely AGAINST the formation of a standing army. That was part of their reasoning for including the 2nd amendment as a civil right, so that the army could not overpower its citizens. you admitted they were for a standing army in your sentence. The 2nd amendment provided that citizens should be allowed to bear arms should the government become tyrannical and oppose the people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20606318 United States 07/29/2012 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It The intended effect of the "contended comma" in the 2nd Amendment specifically and precisely crafts the meaning of the sentence to mean: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 BECAUSE the government must maintain a standing army... Actually, I'm going to have to stop you right there. The founders were absolutely AGAINST the formation of a standing army. That was part of their reasoning for including the 2nd amendment as a civil right, so that the army could not overpower its citizens. you admitted they were for a standing army in your sentence. The 2nd amendment provided that citizens should be allowed to bear arms should the government become tyrannical and oppose the people. i did ?? huh ?? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20596154 United States 07/29/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It I am a professional writer who has studied law. I will explain the 2nd Amendment in very simple terms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 you explained the legals, and the law can you explain law, as to this particular subject ?? The "law" as you so blithely call it is not LAW, but statute. All "laws" passed to limit the RIGHT to keep and bear arms are unconstitutional. Period. Therefore, there is no point to discussing the "laws" that have been passed over the years to slowly but surely ELIMINATE the ability of the people to exercise their RIGHTS. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8904437 United States 07/29/2012 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It This Supreme court justice is letting everyone know what the agenda now is. He is telling you what they WILL do in the future and trying to make justification for it by telling stories about the founding fathers etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 863152 and yes, the American people have already been subjugated to the point that IF told to turn in their weapons, THEY WILL! Only a small TINY fraction of the population won't. And they will be branded DOMESTIC TERRORISTS, MARGINALIZED, and the military will hunt them down. You must live in a shit of a place to being saying that. The people I know won't stand for it AT ALL. And those people I know in the military will attack those who give those orders. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20606318 United States 07/29/2012 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It I am a professional writer who has studied law. I will explain the 2nd Amendment in very simple terms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 you explained the legals, and the law can you explain law, as to this particular subject ?? The "law" as you so blithely call it is not LAW, but statute. the law = statutes you have studied statutes, you have not studied law |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20596154 United States 07/29/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It The intended effect of the "contended comma" in the 2nd Amendment specifically and precisely crafts the meaning of the sentence to mean: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 BECAUSE the government must maintain a standing army... Actually, I'm going to have to stop you right there. The founders were absolutely AGAINST the formation of a standing army. That was part of their reasoning for including the 2nd amendment as a civil right, so that the army could not overpower its citizens. You are splitting hairs that divert the point - you must be a shill. The framers were against a standing army, and allowed for "militias" that are organized and trained groups whos' ARMS are kept at an ARMORY for the time when they are needed. Splitting that hair is another subject entirely. The reality is that we got a standing army, which is ten times WORSE than the militia that the framers intended. So, the need for the people to retains their RIGHT is tenfold. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20596154 United States 07/29/2012 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It I am a professional writer who has studied law. I will explain the 2nd Amendment in very simple terms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 you explained the legals, and the law can you explain law, as to this particular subject ?? The "law" as you so blithely call it is not LAW, but statute. the law = statutes you have studied statutes, you have not studied law Wrong. Go read something. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20606318 United States 07/29/2012 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It ... Quoting: Sugarelf you explained the legals, and the law can you explain law, as to this particular subject ?? The "law" as you so blithely call it is not LAW, but statute. the law = statutes you have studied statutes, you have not studied law Wrong. Go read something. your mouth clearly demonstrates that you may be a professional writer, but i doubt you make a dime with your tongue |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20596154 United States 07/29/2012 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It This Supreme court justice is letting everyone know what the agenda now is. He is telling you what they WILL do in the future and trying to make justification for it by telling stories about the founding fathers etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 863152 and yes, the American people have already been subjugated to the point that IF told to turn in their weapons, THEY WILL! Only a small TINY fraction of the population won't. And they will be branded DOMESTIC TERRORISTS, MARGINALIZED, and the military will hunt them down. You must live in a shit of a place to being saying that. The people I know won't stand for it AT ALL. And those people I know in the military will attack those who give those orders. You know in your heart that your assertion is not true. |
Kirk User ID: 10818676 United States 07/29/2012 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It I am a professional writer who has studied law. I will explain the 2nd Amendment in very simple terms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 The intended effect of the "contended comma" in the 2nd Amendment specifically and precisely crafts the meaning of the sentence to mean: BECAUSE the government must maintain a standing army... and BECAUSE we just got done writing a WHOLE bunch of stuff about TYRANNY being the end result of ALL governments... (This was assumed as a given...it was the FUCKING CONSTITUTION - written to prevent tyrannical government.) ... the PEOPLE must be able to keep arms to protect themselves against the standing army of the government. PERIOD. Also, the term ARMS meant the 'arms of the day' which means that the PEOPLE should all have military grade heavy weapons - whatever the government has. *SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED* Means that no law can EVER be passed to limit the keeping and WIELDING of military grade heavy weapons by the people. If the framers had meant "pistols," they would have said PISTOLS. Therefore, THIS is how the 2nd Amendment should be interpreted: ** Because the government must maintain a standing army, there must never be ANY kind of restriction WHATSOEVER on the people's RIGHT to own and carry military grade heavy weaponry, because when the government has bigger guns, the people are oppressed. ** sounds right to me. And when we were wide open and free I don't remember any mass shootings being recorded. Mass shootings meant "Showdown at the OK Corral". I have been shot and I am against gun control. Freedom is a grand experiment that must not fail. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
2112 User ID: 19161368 United States 07/29/2012 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It Let me make this real simple for everyone to understand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15292827 We do have a gun problem but it's not from those of us who own guns legally and follow the laws it's from criminals who don't abide by the law and governments who seek to enforce their will on others. As long as those two entities are armed and creating havoc I will never give up my protection from them. Enlightened self interest then demands 'we' as a society aid these people in education and opportunity. "we', the people, and the ' social contract'. of which those of the enlightenment, including our founders spoke about and wanted to develop. Less crimes and better people. All of society benefits. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17478519 United States 07/29/2012 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It The framers were against a standing army, and allowed for "militias" that are organized and trained groups whos' ARMS are kept at an ARMORY for the time when they are needed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20596154 Not really. In a historical sense, 'militia' referred to all able-bodied male citizens capable of taking up arms in defense of the country. That concept still exists in US Code Title 10 section 311, as 'unorganized' militia. There is no requirement that this militia be trained. I have no idea where you come up with the belief that they intended for personal weapons to be stored at an armory. I'll need some evidence for that one. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20831291 United States 07/29/2012 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It Does he also understand the declaration of independence! He you non constitutional assholes, we're done giving up any more ground, and any more of our rights, and we're not following Obama Care either, it's all unconstitutional, and nice one on passing up looking into Obama's birth certificate. You're a laughing stock, illegitimate, and the only amendment left to the constitution is the second one! How is the NDAA constitutional asshole! How is operation gun runner, and fast & furious constitutional! How is it that the Federal Reserve, a private family isn't unconstitutional. The Supreme Court Is Such A Fucking JOKE!!!!!!! You can stick your interpretation of the constitution straight up your ass, asshole Scalia! |
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Cheyenne User ID: 1406233 United States 07/29/2012 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It Don't worry, folks. The government is too incompetent. Name me a current government program that meets 90% of their mission objectives. Imagine the government confiscating 90% of America's guns - 270 million out of 300 million estimated to be in free hands. That still leaves 30 million guns in the hands of very pissed Americans. So, no, I don't think the Federales have the manpower or intelligence to implement complete gun control. And even if they did, I do have a lathe... what's next? Lathe control? If they stopped all guns from being sold RIGHT NOW, in the year 2100 A.D. there still would be many millions of guns - and ammunition. I own a rifle designed 100 years ago, still hits targets out to 300 yards with WWII ammo. ATF: you have failed at your hidden agenda of victim disarmament. You cannot succeed, ever, at this endeavor. 100% Natural Unvaxxed Human Being |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20632801 United States 07/29/2012 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It Pass all the laws you want. I will not be unarmed in a country whose government just bought 400 millions hollow points for use exclusively on its own citizens. And with those 400 million hollow-points they will be taking your guns! You'll either turn them in willingly or you will have a SWAT team kicking down your door at 3 am some morning. Stupid logic. There is not enough SWAT or military to disarm America. The security apparatus is outmanned and outgunned. Beat, torture, kill or bully ONE person and One Hundred will do what you say. The gov is not outmanned. People are so easy to control it's rediculous. |
\\'hyte \\'olf User ID: 14202392 United States 07/29/2012 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia - Guns May be Regulated and Constitution Allows It I am thinking MORON more than Shill or Slave...PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE, ok? Guns do not have a motive nor do they kill out of passion...BAN MORONS NOT GUNS. "I Will Limit Your Access To My Reality..." :WhyteWolf: |