BREAKING: NASA release photos of the US flag on the Moon...

how come russia or china not on the moon by now?

tells me its was a massive hoax, or somthing is there warned us to stay away.

Ok, who knocked over the one flag that wasn't standing? Hmmmm? hMmmmmmmmmmmm?

That plays well with the Moonlanding deniers. hehe... I love this new language ... deniers on anything makes them sound crazy =0D

NASA provides 'proof' it didn't commit fraud four decades ago.

That's reminds me of how Obama provided 'proof' he was born in HI with his amteurishly made computer generated birth certificate.

ROLF!!!

in reality, it looks pretty far-fetched. something that easy, everyone would have done it by now.

the moon landing ship they supposedly landed in was just big enough FOR THEM, let alone the car they DROVE AROUND THE SURFACE ON.??????????? and the rest of their EQUIPMENT, HOW DID THAT GEAR GET THERE.??????????????

Guys, if the Queen can parachute from a helicopter, with James Bond, then anything is possible!

Has to be Nasa trolling. Theres a pinned thread involving a guy and his fucking camera and telescope taking rather close up pictures of the moon [link to i50.tinypic.com]

And you mean to tell me that all NASA can muster up is some 10x10 clump of pixels that says "Nope, flag was here"?

shiiitttttt, there is no way the moon landing ship could fit 2 astronots in full suit...there simply was NOT enough room.

Search: for nasascam, wag the moon doggie, What Happened on the Moon?,
Questions:

- landing. how do you land a rocket?
- cooling. how do you xfer heat to space?
- batteries. how long do yours last?
- archives. how did NASA lose ALL the records?

Ever been frustrated by interviews from halfway across the globe as you wait for the guy to hear the question and then answer it? Turn right.. camera turns.. copy Houston? .. copy. No delay. Think people. Use the brain God gave you.

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From

Wagging the Moondoggie, Part I
October 1, 2009
by David McGowan

Consider this peculiar fact: in order to reach the surface of the Moon from the surface of the Earth, the Apollo astronauts would have had to travel a minimum of 234,000 miles*. Since the last Apollo flight allegedly returned from the Moon in 1972, the furthest that any astronaut from any country has traveled from the surface of the Earth is about 400 miles. And very few have even gone that far. The primary components of the current U.S. space program – the space shuttles, the space station, and the Hubble Telescope – operate at an orbiting altitude of about 200 miles.



(*NASA gives the distance from the center of Earth to the center of the Moon as 239,000 miles. Since the Earth has a radius of about 4,000 miles and the Moon’s radius is roughly 1,000 miles, that leaves a surface-to-surface distance of 234,000 miles. The total distance traveled during the alleged missions, including Earth and Moon orbits, ranged from 622,268 miles for Apollo 13 to 1,484,934 miles for Apollo 17. All on a single tank of gas.)



To briefly recap then, in the twenty-first century, utilizing the most cutting-edge modern technology, the best manned spaceship the U.S. can build will only reach an altitude of 200 miles. But in the 1960s, we built a half-dozen of them that flew almost 1,200 times further into space. And then flew back. And they were able to do that despite the fact that the Saturn V rockets that powered the Apollo flights weighed in at a paltry 3,000 tons, about .004% of the size that the principal designer of those very same Saturn rockets had previously said would be required to actually get to the Moon and back (primarily due to the unfathomably large load of fuel that would be required).



To put that into more Earthly terms, U.S. astronauts today travel no further into space than the distance between the San Fernando Valley and Fresno. The Apollo astronauts, on the other hand, traveled a distance equivalent to circumnavigating the planet around the equator nine-and-a-half times! And they did it with roughly the same amount of fuel that it now takes to make that 200 mile journey, which is why I want NASA to build my next car for me. I figure I’ll only have to fill up the tank once and it should last me for the rest of my life.





“But wait,” you say, “NASA has solid evidence of the validity of the Moon landings. They have, for example, all of that film footage shot on the moon and beamed live directly into our television sets.”



Since we’re on the subject, I have to mention that transmitting live footage back from the Moon was another rather innovative use of 1960s technology. More than two decades later, we would have trouble broadcasting live footage from the deserts of the Middle East, but in 1969, we could beam that shit back from the Moon with nary a technical glitch!



As it turns out, however, NASA doesn’t actually have all of that Moonwalking footage anymore. Truth be told, they don’t have any of it. According to the agency, all the tapes were lost back in the late 1970s. All 700 cartons of them. As Reuters reported on August 15, 2006, “The U.S. government has misplaced the original recording of the first moon landing, including astronaut Neil Armstrong’s famous ‘one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind’ … Armstrong’s famous moonwalk, seen by millions of viewers on July 20, 1969, is among transmissions that NASA has failed to turn up in a year of searching, spokesman Grey Hautaluoma said. ‘We haven’t seen them for quite a while. We’ve been looking for over a year, and they haven’t turned up,’ Hautaluoma said … In all, some 700 boxes of transmissions from the Apollo lunar missions are missing.”



Given that these tapes allegedly documented an unprecedented and unduplicated historical event, one that is said to be the greatest technological achievement of the twentieth century, how in the world would it be possible to, uhmm, ‘lose’ 700 cartons of them? Would not an irreplaceable national treasure such as that be very carefully inventoried and locked away in a secure film vault? And would not copies have been made, and would not those copies also be securely tucked away somewhere? Come to think of it, would not multiple copies have been made for study by the scientific and academic communities?



Had NASA claimed that a few tapes, or even a few cartons of tapes, had been misplaced, then maybe we could give them the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps some careless NASA employee, for example, absent-mindedly taped a Super Bowl game over one of them. Or maybe some home porn. But does it really seem at all credible to claim that the entire collection of tapes has gone missing – all 700 cartons of them, the entire film record of the alleged Moon landings? In what alternative reality would that happen ‘accidentally’?



Some of you are probably thinking that everyone has already seen the footage anyway, when it was allegedly broadcast live back in the late 1960s and early 1970s, or on NASA’s website, or on YouTube, or on numerous television documentaries. But you would be mistaken. The truth is that the original footage has never been aired, anytime or anywhere – and now, since the tapes seem to have conveniently gone missing, it quite obviously never will be.



The fact that the tapes are missing (and according to NASA, have been for over three decades), amazingly enough, was not even the most compelling information that the Reuters article had to offer. Also to be found was an explanation of how the alleged Moonwalk tapes that we all know and love were created: “Because NASA’s equipment was not compatible with TV technology of the day, the original transmissions had to be displayed on a monitor and re-shot by a TV camera for broadcast.”



So what we saw then, and what we have seen in all the footage ever released by NASA since then, were not in fact live transmissions. To the contrary, it was footage shot off a television monitor, and a tiny black-and-white monitor at that. That monitor may have been running live footage, I suppose, but it seems far more likely that it was running taped footage. NASA of course has never explained why, even if it were true that the original broadcasts had to be ‘re-shot,’ they never subsequently released any of the actual ‘live’ footage. But I guess that’s a moot point now, what with the tapes having gone missing.



With NASA’s admission of how the original broadcasts were created, it is certainly not hard to imagine how fake Moon landing footage could have been produced. As I have already noted, the 1960s were a decidedly low-tech era, and NASA appears to have taken a very low-tech approach. As Moon landing skeptics have duly noted, if the broadcast tapes are played back at roughly twice their normal running speed, the astronauts appear to move about in ways entirely consistent with the way ordinary humans move about right here on planet Earth. Here then is the formula for creating Moonwalk footage: take original footage of guys in ridiculous costumes moving around awkwardly right here on our home planet, broadcast it over a tiny, low-resolution television monitor at about half speed, and then re-film it with a camera focused on that screen. The end result will be broadcast-ready tapes that, in addition to having that all-important grainy, ghosty, rather surreal ‘broadcast from the Moon’ look, also appear to show the astronauts moving about in entirely unnatural ways.



But not, it should be noted, too unnatural. And doesn’t that seem a little odd as well? If we’re being honest here (and for my testosterone-producing readers, this one is directed at you), the average male specimen, whether astronaut or plumber, never really grows up and stops being a little boy. And what guy, given the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to spend some time in a reduced gravity environment, isn’t going to want to see how high he can jump? Or how far he can jump? Hitting a golf ball? Who the hell wants to see that? How about tossing a football for a 200-yard touchdown pass? Or how about the boys dazzling the viewing audience with some otherworldly acrobatics?



And yes, Neil and the guys did exhibit some playfulness at times while allegedly walking on the Moon, but doesn’t it seem a bit odd that they failed to do anything that couldn’t be faked simply by changing the tape speed? When I attended college, I knew a guy on the volleyball team who had a 32” vertical leap right here on Earth. So when I see guys jumping maybe 12”, if that, in a 1/6 gravity environment with no air resistance, I’m not really all that impressed.



Am I the only one, by the way, who finds it odd that people would move in slow motion on the Moon? Why would a reduced gravitational pull cause everything to move much more slowly? Given the fact that they were much lighter on their feet and not subject to air and wind resistance, shouldn’t the astronauts have been able to move quicker on the Moon than here on Earth? Was slow motion the only thing NASA could come up with to give the video footage an otherworldly feel?



Needless to say, if what has been proposed here is indeed how the ‘Moon landing’ footage in the public domain was created, then the highly incriminating original footage – which would have looked like any other footage shot here on Earth, except for the silly costumes and props – would have had to have been destroyed. Perhaps it’s not surprising then that NASA now takes the position that the original footage has been missing since “sometime in the late 1970s.”



Unfortunately, it isn’t just the video footage that is missing. Also allegedly beamed back from the Moon was voice data, biomedical monitoring data, and telemetry data to monitor the location and mechanical functioning of the spaceship. All of that data, the entire alleged record of the Moon landings, was on the 13,000+ reels that are said to be ‘missing.’ Also missing, according to NASA and its various subcontractors, are the original plans/blueprints for the lunar modules. And for the lunar rovers. And for the entire multi-sectioned Saturn V rockets.



There is, therefore, no way for the modern scientific community to determine whether all of that fancy 1960s technology was even close to being functional or whether it was all for show. Nor is there any way to review the physical record, so to speak, of the alleged flights. We cannot, for example, check the fuel consumption throughout the flights to determine what kind of magic trick NASA used to get the boys there and back with less than 1% of the required fuel. And we will never, it would appear, see the original, first-generation video footage.



You would think that someone at NASA would have thought to preserve such things. No wonder we haven’t given them the money to go back to the Moon; they’d probably just lose it.

[link to davesweb.cnchost.com]

I fucking love this website!

Someone posts pictures of the flags and it's all "bullshit!" and "those blurry pixels prove nothing!"

Yet, if the exact same pictures had been posted with the headline "BREAKING!! OMG!! SHOPPING MALL AND LEISURE CENTRE FOUND ON MOON!! 100% PROOF! OMG!!", every fucker would be agreeing that they can make out the trees outside it and the entrance to the fucking carpark!

Rock on GLP!

MEDIA MANIPULATION:

Moon stuff true or not;

Haven't you ppl understood that photoshop is comparable to MS Paint compared to what they have??? and don't even get me started on video manipulation jeez, special effects have been around for 3 or 4 decades, final cut and such are like 1st season southpark animation, wag the dog mofos.

One can simply NOT tell reality from fake since a long time ago! Anything your eyes see cannot be trusted, the source is the only thing that can be analyzed.

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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

Arthur C. Clarke, "Profiles of The Future",
1961 (Clarke's third law)

English physicist & science fiction author

I can place few dar pixels with photoshop its easy.

I dont see your point? One is right, the other is ALWAYS wrong! LOL

The shills will tell you that they somehow "went around" the belts, or were only in them for a few seconds.

I'm sure Halcyon, or Astroshill, can straighten you out on this.

Yeah, all those probes they sent before that would have told them absolutely nothing.

Only until the Gemini program.


We gained the lead during the Gemini program. The soviets tried to go to the Moon and had an active program until 1974 but they couldn't keep their heavy lifting rocket (the N-1) from blowing up.


rocket technology is largely the same. Funding is far less and this time they want to go back and stay longer. Different goals require different equipment.


No they didn't. The blueprints still exist on microfilm. What doesn't exist is the specialized tooling to make the Saturn V and the industry to support it.


So? Nothing Hollywood made then or now matches the footage. Hollywood can't put together a 2 minute scene without some mistake. The Moon missions have hours of unbroken footage with clear evidence of vacuum and low gravity.


Which the guy they are named after said they weren't a deal breaker. Plus they went around the worst of them through the thinner outer edges.


Same as they would be exposed to in low Earth orbit. It isn't fatal there.

Except they would have been seen in low earth orbit and they were seen and tracked on the way to the moon.

The best the Hubble can see at the distance of the Moon is at least 200 feet per pixel. The math doesn't lie. Look up the Dawes limit.

how much computing power did it need when the calculations were done on the ground in large mainframes?


Orbital mechanics, you don't understand it.


Which they went around most of.

The SURFACE has extreme temperatures after the two weeks of sun. They went during lunar morning before it had heated fully. There is also no temperature for the vacuum. Their suits reflected most heat. Funny that you think kicking with a heavy rubber boot when the pressure layer is multiple layers underneath would have any harmful effect.


Not lost, recorded over AFTER they had copies.


Looks like he sun is on the right for the craters to me. you do know that craters are holes in the ground right? So their brightest lit part is on the left with the shadow on the right?

The rover was attached to the outside as well as most of the scientific equipment.

Except for the pics and video that show it.

oh for fuck's sake. Van Allen himself who discovered the belts stated we could go through them and live. look it up, its all over Google you twat.

LOL NASA FAIL

Great picture! and with such clarity!

I see them! All 6 of them!

And I even see the 100 apple trees that Johnny Appleseed planted. Funny thing, though. All 100 of them are still standing, yet those crazy astronauts couldn't get 6 flags to stay standing.

Who waters those apple trees?

I remember that day, on 21 July 1969, when Buzz Aldrin opened that hatch and climbed down the ladder and set foot on the moon. I remember it well. We even watched it on TV. There was even a camera outside of the lunar module to capture that moment as it happened to record man's first step on the moon.

Ummm, who was holding the camera? Or if it was on a tri-pod, how did it get there?

Human beings can't travel above LEO.

Free space is a seething cauldron of destructive ionizing radiation, fast protons from our Sun, and from Galactic Cosmic Rays.

Shills will tell you that about 1/4 inch of aluminium and some plastic will shield astronauts from this maelstrom of deadly shit, and you can believe it, or not.

The Russkies never even made an attempt to send cosmonauts out of LEO, and with good reason.

It was attached to the MESA arm and pre-aimed at the hatch. And it wasn't Buzz that first stepped out it was Neil. I doubt you actually remember it at all. I'm betting you're 15 or less.

well sry for going offtopic...



Thomas Harriot's early telescopic 1609-1610 Moon Drawings
[link to galileo.rice.edu]

Wrong ConspiracyTard.

[link to hiwaay.net]

Congressman McFadden
on the Federal Reserve Corporation
Remarks in Congress, 1934
AN ASTOUNDING EXPOSURE Reprinted by permission 1978 Arizona Caucus Club

Congressman McFadden's Speech
On the Federal Reserve Corporation

Quotations from several speeches made on the Floor of the House of Representatives by the Honorable Louis T. McFadden of Pennsylvania. Mr. McFadden, due to his having served as Chairman of the Banking and Currency Committee for more than 10 years, was the best posted man on these matters in America and was in a position to speak with authority of the vast ramifications of this gigantic private credit monopoly. As Representative of a State which was among the first to declare its freedom from foreign money tyrants it is fitting that Pennsylvania, the cradle of liberty, be again given the credit for producing a son that was not afraid to hurl defiance in the face of the money-bund. Whereas Mr. McFadden was elected to the high office on both the Democratic and Republican tickets, there can be no accusation of partisanship lodged against him. Because these speeches are set out in full in the Congressional Record, they carry weight that no amount of condemnation on the part of private individuals could hope to carry.

"The Moon missions have hours of unbroken footage with clear evidence of vacuum and low gravity."

When you say vacuum do you mean partial depression?