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"Just open your eyes and realize the way its always been"

Another attempt to explain the explainable , but the models do keep changing and perhaps more comprehensive. Perhaps.

everything vibrates. This creates it basic place in the spectrum from energy to matter. But what is the force that dictates the rate of vibration for a particular ? (not sure there is a name for it) So is this beginning of duality at a least seeming duality. Will and being. Two aspects of the same thing in essence, but separated to express itself on multi levels. Can this be experienced rather then intellectualized. Hence we open up the field that has been called a spiritual experience.

Science reminds me of channelers each bringing through a explanation of the One based on their particular bent. The less bent the clearer the picture, but it will always be lacking in terms of the total understanding, for the mind cannot comprehend the infinite.

also, 'phenomenon' is singular while plural form is 'phenomena'.

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.... or Spins , because , hold to your chair , the UPN predicts that electrons do Not rotate around a nucleus but instead Girates or a move similar to a precession While attached to the nucleus complex .

BTW , please every one forgive me for my poor English , it is a birth defect : I wasn't born in an English speaking country ! I appologize !

My spell checker is on strike complaining of Abuse ( ??! ) .

Anyways , please help spread this knowladge for one good reason at least : it appears that the Scientific community is not hype about this ... WTH is going on ???

More scientists look good in a lab coat than Speedos.

Thank you !
Specially for the darn plural for Phenomena !
As for Vortexes , the Linkedit free wordprocessor doesn't complain , go figure , yet I do believe you .
But thanks all for your non-abusive corrections .
The unfortunate combination of being born in a non-English speaking country with my poor memory and a broken spell-checker makes me an ongoing target , my Achile's heel ( or heal ?? F***k , who invented this language ??! :) Just jocking to show the frustrations of a silly immigrant with a phonetical Tricky language ( You'll pay money to hear me discussing and pronounce in a meeting the " sheet metal " issues :)


Now back to the SuperFluid ( SF ) and a little surprise .

Here is my Thanks to you for not abusing me , by bringing up this scientific conclusion about superfluids : they say an SF has Zero viscosity .

The UPN disproves that and please take note : the proven spontaneous agitation that occurs naturally at the micro-level in the SF represents a Movement ( we call it energy ) . I labeled this movement the Fundamental Vortices ( Vortexes ) and they represent the Perpetual source of Movement ( energy ) in the Universe ( their harmonics lead to energy increases ) .

You can not get read of the Fundamental Vortices , they are a fundamental property of the SF , they Ride any "signal" like Static does in electronics , including the ultra small Micro Vortices that represent the sub-sub-sub-particles ( see UPN text ) ...

But the net effect of this SF micro-agitation ( the Fundamental Vortices ) is to interfeer with any other movement they encounter including electromagnetic vibrations such as Light to the effect to Slow it down : we just explained MUCH better the Red Shift !! Hence : NO expansion of the Universe !! And indeed , the UPN confirms this And proves that the Universe does not expand but from yet Another angle using Logic Steps ( see UPN text ) .

A split second after you just read the above sentence did it click that it also Proves there was NO Big Bang ? :)

Still more : the non-Zero viscosity ( yet ultra low ) of the SuperFluid means that all spinning matter , the Micro Vortices that represent sub-sub-sub particles - see UPN - will eventually ... slow down !! Hey , we Just found the MISSING matter , aka the Dark Matter !!

Remember last week discovery of that Organized spiral galaxy so far away that it contradicted the Quantum theory ?
Add the Red Shift explanation by UPN against the Quantum//Relativity theory .

Another bonus from UPN : it shows that Space can't shrink nor expand ...

Please help spread the findings of Volovik about our SuperFluid Universe , there are huge bonuses for the regular citizen ...


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Please read first my previous post above , thanks .

Yes AC , spreading Knowladge is the sign of an open-mind and the GLP owners have that great privilage , they can pin this thread for weeks .

1) Do they Not want to ?
2) They did not find Value in this thread , or
3) they were Told not to allow this thread to be pinned


I'll go with no. three ... ( they bought an expensive telescope that Proves they Like science )


Here is more proof that the SuperFluid is found in other experiments :

Novel superfluid phenomena in semiconductor microcavities

[link to www2.warwick.ac.uk]

P.S. : please read my previous post before this one , thanks .

All the gold in the world is reserved for the gigantic edifice I am building to my massive balls.

We'll figure something out though. Maybe use it to start a war or something.

See this again to show which would be beneficial to DARPA , re-post :


Re-post due to importance :

... The UPN disproves that the SuperFluid has Zero viscosity and please take note : the proven spontaneous agitation that occurs naturally at the micro-level in the SF represents a Movement ( we call it energy ) . I labeled this movement the Fundamental Vortices ( Vortexes ) and they represent the Perpetual source of Movement ( energy ) in the Universe ( their harmonics lead to energy increases ) . All this is detailed and Proved in the numbered Logic Steps in the UPN so you can Troubleshoot them , there is no math and no formulas yet .

Still more : the non-Zero viscosity ( yet ultra low ) of the SuperFluid means that all spinning matter , the Micro Vortices that represent sub-sub-sub particles - see UPN - will eventually ... slow down !! Hey , we Just found the MISSING matter , aka the Dark Matter !!

You can not get read of the Fundamental Vortices , they are a fundamental property of the SF , they Ride any "signal" like Static does in electronics , including the ultra small Micro Vortices that represent the sub-sub-sub-particles ( see UPN text ) ...

But the net effect of this SF micro-agitation ( the Fundamental Vortices ) is to interfeer with any other movement they encounter including electromagnetic vibrations such as Light to the effect to Slow it down : we just explained MUCH better the Red Shift !! Hence : NO expansion of the Universe !! And indeed , the UPN confirms this And proves that the Universe does not expand but from yet Another angle using Logic Steps ( see UPN text ) .

A split second after you just read the above sentence did it click that it also Proves there was NO Big Bang ? :)

Remember last week discovery of that Organized spiral galaxy so far away that it contradicted the Quantum theory ?
Add the Red Shift explanation by UPN against the Quantum//Relativity theory .

Another bonus from UPN : it shows that Space can't shrink nor expand ...

And still one more little test for you : if the Fundamental Vortices ( the SF micro-agitation movement ) , as tiny as they are originally , are happening all around and fairly uniformly througthout the Universe , non-stop , what other phenomenon it explains ?

A : the Cosmic Background Energy ( radiation or Temperature as aka ) of 2.72 Kelvin ! Neat , eh !

Hang on , did you just deduced the CBE due to the perpetual Fundamenta Vortices ? Well done , you Also just proved and explained Why Absolute Zero temperature is impossible !!

Now , That's what I call Science , it's like the Cash Cab , results on the go , no biggies to understand because Nature should be simple AND because the Universe is 100 % Logic hence Logic Alone can explain the Universe ... see the numbered Logic Steps in the UPN !

Please help spread the findings of Volovik about our SuperFluid Universe , there are huge bonuses for the regular citizen ...

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Heads up people , the censorship started : the moment I posted the Volovik find vis-a-vis of the UPN , my two posts on two different Science Forums were Delete !!
Please copy and spread the UPN , no doubt there is a Conspiracy to keep alive the Quantum/Relativity eventhough the last evidence ( the far away Organized galaxy ) makes both theories false while it supports the UPN ...

How SWEET it is to get That kind of Confirmation for the UPN !! Champaigne !!

Can you still pee in it like you can in a Swimming Pool Fluid,if so then it definitely is a Super-Fluid.

I Luvs to pee in Swimming Pools - Quite often from the High-Board.

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 08/01/2012 06:50 PM

I am happy to report to you that is even Better !!

You are actually Peeing Right NOW , on yourself because your whole body is the Swimming Pool , aka the SuperFluid !
That simple !
After you towel , ponder of it tonight while sleeping .


The fact remains that the upmost conclusion of Volovik's brilliant deduction is not drawn yet : we all are waves , vortices and their harmonics , go ahead and read between the lines of what it means including Free , green energy .


See specie Solutions in the Action-Packed Ultimate Political Platform , The Recipe for a Nation , link below in my sig .

This development is worth forwarding to Stephen Hawking and save him the $ 100 bet on the Mass boson that the UPN shows that doesn't exist .

Even the Quantum SuperFluid Universe certainly doesn't accomodate for the mass boson ... it's an Atheist Universe :)

If you read the Abstract provided by Grigory Volovik you'll see the reference to the Quantum Vacuum ( see first post in this thread ).

My question is : does this Quantum Vacuum contains as a component the Superfluid ?

If it does is becames a particular Vacuum that contains something ... Now you see why in my UPN theory I choose Nothingness as the Absolute Reference Point , has no components , it just doesn't exist . Remember this prior poster who was making fun of Nothingness ? ... Bite tongue .

Let's see how the Quantum will handle its tricky Superfluid because , unlike the UPN , I didn't see any properties clarified ( please post here if you do ) .

The UPN SuperFluid has at least three major properties :

- uncompressible
- non-granular
- extreme low viscosity but not Zero


I would love to see your speculations about the real possibilities ...

Interesting ... just after posting the Grigori Volovik's great find ( the Superfluid Universe ) 3 days ago on a science web site my thread got Locked and Ended . This science forum last year just 2 days after I posted the UPN got hacked , went down for a day and when it came back it blocked the usage of my ' Return / Enter ' key that affected the text formating ...

Right now , just 2 days after I posted the Volovik connection in Another science forum , it is down Now ! WTH ?

Why 'they' don't like that the Universe is a SuperFluid ??

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..... Hmmmm .....

The Science Forum is back on line !

So let's ask again the two overall questions :

- why Volovik's discovery has been kept in the dark since 2010 , i.e. why a SUperFluid Universe is against the ' establishment ' ?? Would it contradict the Relativity/Quantum ?

- why the obvious observation about everything being only waves , vortices and their harmonics as the only phenomena that can happend in a Fluid , a powerful conclusion , was not presented in Volovik's article ( I could see the Abstract only so corect me if wrong , thanks )



I have the third one about the 3 properties of the SuperFluid as determined by the UPN but that I did not see in the Article .
One of them is quite shocking : since the SUperFluid , according to the UPN , is uncompressible certain waves could travel infinity in a flash ...

And even more , see " The Advanced Super Specie : the dream prison " essay . It's good to be shocked , it Wakes you up to the realisation that Sleep is a Disease !!
Oh Really , from a SuperFluid to the " Advanced Super Specie Boutique of Senses " , a pleasure hunt .
No , not crazy , just super real , super possible , see both essays .

But the Real question is : can the Gods be bad ?
A : don't be silly , just Look around you ! Do you see a happy world ? That answers your question .
And How do we know That ? Because we still ... sleep and Dream , see the essays above ... QED


So , what can we do ?
See specie Solutions in the Action-Packed Ultimate Political Platform , The Recipe for a Nation , link below in my sig .

If you though as I did that Grigory Volovik's find would shake the halls of science think again , better yet search the Net as I did to see if the major Magazines did carry this news made in 2010 : Nada .

There is a hint and a fine line to it : nobody Chalanged nor Denyed Volovik's ' Superfluid Universe ' ! ...

If you add that the conclusion was also found ( by UPN ) but only using logic than you do have plenty of reasons to investigate further because the School Books will have to be changed together with our interpretations of the Empiric Formulas .

The Superfluid Universe shows that the Quantum/Relativity are like driving a car : you are good at it , even a race-driver , yet you don't have a clue on how the engine works ... hence the falasy of a Big Bang and the Expansion of the Universe among others .


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Pin it today so you can ripp the benefits tomorrow .

Let's here that again for this breaking news !

Here something to ponder :

If the definition of Quantum Vacuum as accepted ( see link in the OP ) is a space devoided of Matter YET the Quantum theory describes the Universe as made of a SuperFluid THAN it is clear that the Quantum SuperFluid is NOT Matter ! ...

Now look at my UPN : Matter is ... spinning SuperFluid at some speed of light forming micro-vortices that we interpret as sub-sub-sub-particles , i.e. Matter ...

This lends weight to all that Spirit Science stuff I've been reading lately.

Do you have any links please ?

Keep in mind that even ultra advanced species that achieved perpetual life and incredible technologies have one major issue to worry : the micro-vortices ( sub-sub-particles ) they are made of are slowing down due to the viscosity of the SuperFluid they spin ...

Their lives are so advanced that they twisted the original saying because for them is : " I spin therefore I am ! " .


But for now let's keep in mind Volovik's great find and the Burning questions with it : Why don't we hear about it in the ( scientific ) media ??
What is so inconvinient about it ?
Keep in mind that his find/deduction was not proven wrong , not even challanged !

What does a SuperFluid ( Universe ) to the Quantum/Relativity theories ?

Hmm I've just been reading all different things, though [link to www.youtube.com] is what got me started on the subject.

It's got a lot to do with all of reality basically being nothing more than vibrations (or waves), which is what modern spirituality seems to be based off.

It sounds to me like these two theories are basically the same idea, which is pretty interesting to me.

Also this one: [link to www.youtube.com]

Last Edited by ethzero on 08/05/2012 03:31 PM

Please read the OP on this thread , the first post , and see how those theories differ , you will like it ...

Please , take a moment and copy this , here are the few Logic Steps proving who we are , how we got here and where all the Universe Perpetual Energy is coming from ... you will not find this in the Quantum /relativity theories !

All this is based on the basic three properties of the UPN SuperFluid :

- non-granular ( basically there are no Pressure points as in a Particle/Atom fluid like All the ones we are familiar with )

- uncompressible

- extreme low viscosity yet not Zero


Those 3 properties are Proven and Logically derived in the UPN , and they combine together in the following Logic Steps to show us the mechanism of Perpetual Energy and the creation of Bright Vortices ( formely known as Black Holes ) that spin the SuperFluid in micro-vortices that we see as sub-sub-sub-particles , simplicity in Motion :


2.0 - Proving that the SuperFluid is continuously moving at its most fundamental level creating Perpetual Movement/Energy and Matter :



2.1 ) The extreme low viscosity of the SuperFluid ( SF ) as a property necessary to satisfy the complete absence of Nothingness means that the SF can and must Continuously fill the smallest possible 3-D volume/space but without disappearing ( Nothingness can not be created and Somethingness can not disappear or became nothingness ) .



2.2 ) This means that the final space , the absolute smallest space that the SF can fill is Finite . The Logic says that if Somethingness is not Nothingness than it has , or it occupies Space . Hence the smallest possible space is not an abstract number ( going towards minus infinite in Size , i.e. Smaller , the Smallest , not negative space as someone interpret it ) but it is a number representing the smallest limit at which the SF can fill a space .



2.3 ) This smallest yet finite space also Explains the UN-compressibility of the SF : it can not be Squeezed any further , it can not became any smaller , hence it is not compressible .

This has many consequences concerning other properties and the Behaviour of the SF .



2.4 ) The Non-Granular property of the SuperFluid ( SF ) or as we can call it the ‘ fabric ‘ of the Universe , is a key property that requires a moment to get used to .

In essence being non-granular simply means there are No Pressure Points , no atoms or defined particles around that would act as such pressure points .



2.5 ) Without pressure points , any pressure that may exist will be applied evenly around any 3-D micro-region/space in the SuperFluid .



2.6 ) Under those circumstances if NO force what so ever , of any kind , would exist within the SuperFluid , every micro space at the smallest volume that the viscosity of the SF allows , would have No force applied around . We consider this scenario to prove the Movement in SF does not need a catalyst or a ‘kick-start’ , hence it doesn’t have a Beginning .



2.7 ) If there is no force around the smallest volume that the SF can occupy , than that micro-volume would try to further lower its energy state by Trying to expand in all directions .



2.8 ) This tendency for expansion at the smallest possible level/volume of the SuperFluid ( SF ) would happened instantaneously and through out the Universe .



2.9 ) That instant tendency to expand ( under the circumstance describe above , No Force applied ) would be causing every micro-space to try to infringe on its vicinity , But because the SF is un-compressible and un-elastic the resulting Combined movement would be a simple localized vortex , the Mixing of micro-spaces in the SF , representing the Fundamental-Vortexes ( FV ) occurring through out the SF and the Universe .



2.10 ) Those steps demonstrate that the properties of the fabric of the Universe , the SuperFluid , give creation Without Any Force Applied into the SF to micro vortexes that I would like to call Fundamental Vortexes , and which represent the Fundamental and Perpetual source of Movement ( Energy ) in the Universe . Their Harmonics further amplify their movement in many possible ways .



2.11 ) The Reason I had demonstrated the occurrence of the Fundamental-Vortexes under the absence of Any energy/movement in the SuperFluid , is to show that the Universe doesn’t need a Kick to ‘start’ and its properties makes it not Just a Self-Starter But equally important … it can Not Stop , even without any energy applied it would still self-mix making it a true Perpetual source of Movement/energy .



2.12 ) In conclusion , the combined properties of the fabric ( SuperFluid ) making up the Universe – its un-compressibility , its non-granular structure and its extreme low viscosity as proven in the UPN - together create the mechanism of continuously mixing it self and through out the Universe at the smallest possible scale , creating the Fundamental-Vortexes , the smallest possible vortexes , and therefore being the Perpetual source of Movement/energy in the Universe .



2.13 ) This continuous movement is the Observed 2.7 Kelvin energy radiating throughout the Universe . Further more , over the endless existence of the Universe , the continuous occurrence of the Fundamental Vortexes ( FV ) guarantees the possibility of the FVs to occur in Harmonics , in Coincidences , giving birth to greater Movement and possibly in the shape of a Larger Vortex , which I would like to name the Bright Vortexes ( BV ) that we used to call Black Holes ( remember here the spontaneous and silent occurrence of Globular Lighting as I witness it myself to realize the absolute possibility of spontaneous occurrences – Harmonics ) .

Please see their properties described in the UPN , mainly as vortexes spinning at the speed of light and spinning in turn the SuperFluid creating further Micro-Vortexes that represent what we call sub-sub- , – particles , the Fundamental Particles that we call Matter and Energy . See their description in the UPN .



2.14 ) Finally , we have seen the explanation of how sub-sub– particles form representing Matter , all from the continuous agitation within the SuperFluid and the resulting Harmonics due to its properties that also create the Perpetual motion forming continuously Fundamental Vortexes . Q.E.D.


Note : as you see , Logic Step 2.3 proves the un-compressibility of the Fabric of the Universe which has Huge implications in the history of any ultra advanced specie .

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Yet science alone is not enough : see specie Solutions in the Action-Packed Ultimate Political Platform , The Recipe for a Nation , link below in my sig .

Together with the handfull of Logic Steps just shown above in my previous post , the questions I raised about Volovik's SuperFluid find from the Quantum point must keep us asking : why Volovik's SuperFluid , a HUGE find , are not shaking the Media and the scientific Community ??!



See specie Solutions in the Action-Packed Ultimate Political Platform , The Recipe for a Nation , link below in my sig .

Please forward this to your science teacher for a good discussion !



.... Besides the above experiments and observations that support an Universe made of a SuperFluid as demonstrated by the UPN , here we have another scientist , Grigory Volovik with Cornell University that concludes the same , ‘ The SuperFluid Universe ‘ :

[link to arxiv.org]

The Superfluid Universe
by Grigory Volovik of Cornell University

“ … We discuss phenomenology of quantum vacuum …

The Standard Model vacuum both in its massless and massive states is topological medium. The vacuum in its massless state shares the properties of superfluid 3He-A, which is topological superfluid …

…. The small nonzero masses appear in the infrared region, where the quantum vacuum acquires the properties of another topological superfluid, 3He-B, and 3+1 topological insulators …“ .

Even though the two theories , Quantum Vs. UPN , are different like two trains on a collision course , it is remarkable to notice not only that both arrived to the same SuperFluid Universe conclusion but even more shocking is that both are using concepts that refer to ‘ emptiness ‘ to make their case : a ‘ quantum vacuum ‘ in Volovik’s theory , while ‘ Nothingness ‘ was used in the UPN , similar but vastly different which makes the coincidence of their outcome even more remarkable !

The difference between the two competing theories is to be noticed : Volovik is using Quantum principles while the UPN is using exclusively simple Logic Steps easy to troubleshoot without formulas , yet .

Still to be determined is how the Quantum SuperFluid compares with the UPN SuperFluid which as demonstrated has at least three fundamental properties that determines its behaviour : un-compressible , non-granular and extreme low but not Zero viscosity .

Because of those properties the vortices in the UPN SuperFluid do not behave exactly nor have the exact 3-D architecture as granular ( atomic ) superfluids .

To visualize them you need to adjust for un-compressibility which will cause the Density of the SuperFluid vortices to be the same any where within the vortex or around it . The main variable inside and out of such a vortex is just the Speed vector of the rotating SuperFluid .

The only questions that I have about Volovik’s Quantum SuperFluid posted in 2010 are :

- why the Scientific Community is not all over this important finding including having it on the cover of Times magazine and a Nobel Prize for Grigory Volovik ??

- what was the reason why Volovik did not complete the Conclusion arising from the SuperFluid that makes the Universe as I did in my UPN : all phenomena in a SuperFluid Universe can Only be the type that Can happen in a fluid , hence everything can only be Waves , Vortexes and their Harmonics !

[link to UPNtheory.WordPress.com]

Pure gold folks !

I just found Volovik's theory ,PDF in detail and in full !
Please , grab a drink - you'll need it - and take a look at Volovik's work !! You will appreciate a scientist much , Much better .

[link to arxiv.org]


Here is a comment about Gravity :

" ... In this scenario, classical gravity is a natural macroscopic phenomenon emerging in the
low-energy corner of the microscopic quantum vacuum, i.e. it is a typical and actually
inevitable consequence of the coarse graining procedure.

It is possible to quantize gravitational
waves to obtain their quanta – gravitons, since in the low energy corner the results of
microscopic and effective theories coincide.

It is also possible to obtain some (but not all)
quantum corrections to Einstein equation and to extend classical gravity to the semiclassical
level.
But one cannot obtain “quantum gravity” by quantization of Einstein equations, since
all other degrees of freedom of quantum vacuum will be missed in this procedure . " ... more ...


Please note that 'gravitons' do not exist in the UPN and the UPN derived/deduced gravity description is childishly simple : it is the Wake/wave of the cumulative vortices that spin the SuperFluid at close to the speed of light ( micro-vortices that we interpret as sub-sub-particles , i.e. Matter ) . Duh , you've seen those wakes 'sucking' in the sorounding water by vortices , same thing ! KISS me , I am just a messanger of Nature !

Please also note the VAST difference between the Explanations and Logic Steps in the UPN , simple and without need to use math or formulas , and the choke-full of complicated formulas and Quantum concepts that I don't understand used by Volovik to describe his theory !

Remember when the majority of scientists ( and common-sense people ) were expecting a Simple Universe ?
Well , you decide which theory Delivers ...

I strongly invite you to take a read of Volovik's theory .