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This Vaccination Makes You 10 Times More Likely to Get the Disease it's Supposed to Prevent

 
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"In 1961, SV40 was discovered by Dr. Bernice Eddy of the National Institute of Health, Division of Biologics when she took the material used to grow polio vaccines and injected it into hamsters. Tumors grew in the hamsters. Her discovery was subsequently validated by Drs. Maurice Hilliman and Benjamin Sweet of Merck.


Children being fed sugar cubes with the oral polio vaccine. Circa 1961.

"Upon the discovery that SV40 was an animal carcinogen that had found its way into the polio vaccines, a new federal law was passed in 1961 that required that no vaccines contain this virus. However, this law did not require that SV40 contaminated vaccines be thrown away or that the contaminated seed material (used to make all polio vaccines for the next four decades) be discarded. As a result, known SV40 contaminated vaccines were injected into children up until 1963. In addition, it has been alleged that there have been SV40-contaminated batches of oral polio vaccine administered to some children until the end of the 1990's.

Dr. Robert Bell, once Vice President International Society for Cancer Research at the British Cancer Hospital said:

"The chief, if not the sole, cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been vaccination."

Hillerman, chief of vaccines at Merck not only validated Bernice Eddy's discovery but he admitted that all Merck's vaccines contain cancer viruses and other viruses and that their Hepatitis vaccine caused the AIDS epidemic in the US.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


Apologies for the time taken to reply.

Your first paragraph I've already written about. The final sentence of which is an allegation.
Whilst it's true that Bell said that he never provided anything to back it up. It's a sound-bite which has been widely used and never substantiated.
I've heard about the Merck connection with HIV before but I'm struggling to find anything unbiased about it. Until I do I'll be very neutral over the whole affair.
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Too bad backpeddling isn't an Olympic event, you would win gold.

You are a FAR cry from being neutral.
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Vaccines don't prevent the disease 100% of the time, but if everyone gets vaccinated then it is more difficult to contract the disease in the first place. It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger. Ever had Polio? Meningitis? You can thank vaccines for that... But people might start getting this sort of disease soon if people stop vaccinating because they are afraid of "what the government is putting into their system" ... Fine, if you don't want to get the vaccine that is great but PLEASE take a boat to Madagascar or something, where nobody cares, so the rest of us civilized people can flourish.
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^^THIS^^ Thank you for injecting some sanity into an otherwise ridiculous thread. hf
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If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
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Vaccines don't prevent the disease 100% of the time, but if everyone gets vaccinated then it is more difficult to contract the disease in the first place. It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger. Ever had Polio? Meningitis? You can thank vaccines for that... But people might start getting this sort of disease soon if people stop vaccinating because they are afraid of "what the government is putting into their system" ... Fine, if you don't want to get the vaccine that is great but PLEASE take a boat to Madagascar or something, where nobody cares, so the rest of us civilized people can flourish.
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"It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger."

omfg@! how stupid is THAT statement??

if U get the vac U are NOT in danger because U have been vacced against it.idiot
how the HELL do U get the idea U are in danger?
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It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times.
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Then blame yourself for blindly accepting an unreliable "remedy" and leave others to make their own choice.
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Vaccines don't prevent the disease 100% of the time, but if everyone gets vaccinated then it is more difficult to contract the disease in the first place. It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger. Ever had Polio? Meningitis? You can thank vaccines for that... But people might start getting this sort of disease soon if people stop vaccinating because they are afraid of "what the government is putting into their system" ... Fine, if you don't want to get the vaccine that is great but PLEASE take a boat to Madagascar or something, where nobody cares, so the rest of us civilized people can flourish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3788465


"It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger."

omfg@! how stupid is THAT statement??

if U get the vac U are NOT in danger because U have been vacced against it.idiot
how the HELL do U get the idea U are in danger?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20542326


Youe ignorance is showing. Vaccines ARE NOT 100% effective!!! So even some vaccinated people can be at risk, hence the need for herd immunity. How many times must we go over this before you anti-vaxers get it???!! PLEASE educate yourself before you start spouting off again!
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Vaccines don't prevent the disease 100% of the time, but if everyone gets vaccinated then it is more difficult to contract the disease in the first place. It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger. Ever had Polio? Meningitis? You can thank vaccines for that... But people might start getting this sort of disease soon if people stop vaccinating because they are afraid of "what the government is putting into their system" ... Fine, if you don't want to get the vaccine that is great but PLEASE take a boat to Madagascar or something, where nobody cares, so the rest of us civilized people can flourish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3788465


^^THIS^^ Thank you for injecting some sanity into an otherwise ridiculous thread. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
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Life is dangerous, get over it. I'll take the risk.

What I do or don't put in my body isn't your business...period.

Calm down, you're typing incoherently.
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Vaccines don't prevent the disease 100% of the time, but if everyone gets vaccinated then it is more difficult to contract the disease in the first place. It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger. Ever had Polio? Meningitis? You can thank vaccines for that... But people might start getting this sort of disease soon if people stop vaccinating because they are afraid of "what the government is putting into their system" ... Fine, if you don't want to get the vaccine that is great but PLEASE take a boat to Madagascar or something, where nobody cares, so the rest of us civilized people can flourish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3788465


^^THIS^^ Thank you for injecting some sanity into an otherwise ridiculous thread. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
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UR thinking is so ass-backwards...why even GET the vac if U dont think it will help U?
U make no freaking sense.
if the shit doesnt work, why the hell are U taking it???
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Vaccines don't prevent the disease 100% of the time, but if everyone gets vaccinated then it is more difficult to contract the disease in the first place. It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger. Ever had Polio? Meningitis? You can thank vaccines for that... But people might start getting this sort of disease soon if people stop vaccinating because they are afraid of "what the government is putting into their system" ... Fine, if you don't want to get the vaccine that is great but PLEASE take a boat to Madagascar or something, where nobody cares, so the rest of us civilized people can flourish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3788465


^^THIS^^ Thank you for injecting some sanity into an otherwise ridiculous thread. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Behind the scenes the vaccine issue is not a closed book ok and science is also coming out with the negative issues of vaccines yet these don't create billions for the makers so they never see the light of day in the media.

It is you who needs to educate yourself.
You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system
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Not to mention second generation live cancer viruses for all of their kids that are deliberately put into the vaccines.
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Yeah right.
 Quoting: Cahill


Actually, the above poster is quite right. Live cancer viruses have been created by the mad scientists backing big pharma. The viruses are then put into vaccines, along with a cocktail of highly toxic chemicals/heavy metals, such as mercury.

Let me ask all of you brainwashed western medicine lovers a few logical questions:

*Why do you put your faith in doctors who know little to nothing of nutrition, since nutrition is not really part of their medical education? Shouldn't nutrition be the first and most important step to good health? Do you never wonder why the doctors, healthcare professionals and big pharma NEVER educate their patients on propper nutrition? That stupid food pyramid is a joke, btw. It's just to maintain the illusion.

*Why would you trust a pharmaceudical company's drugs, when it is common knowledge that mercury, aluminum and other toxic substances are regularly put into vaccines? Have any of you even heard about all the healthy children suddenly being diagnosed with autism or other smptoms they didn't have prior to being vaccinated?

*Why would you trust a government to have your health as a priority when the government routinely erodes your freedoms, forcing the populace into wage slaves, serving corporate interests rather than the citizenry they're supposed to serve!?! Why would you trust these tyrants when you know damned well that human life means nothing to them! If the government really wanted to protect your health, wouldn't they have stricter regulations regarding medicine and food? Like regulating/banning GMO crops, which have been proven harmful, or legalizing an herb which has been proven time and time again to be highly effective at treating certain disorders? Wouldn't the government ban failed medical practices, such as the toxic chemo poisoning, which more often than naught kills cancer patients faster than the cancer itself? We're talking about roughly 2% success rate of chemotherapy!
Definition of a fool: One who repeats the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

Sounds to me like the fools and quacks are the doctors, pharmaceudical corporations, the mainstream medical community, and the braindead sheep who follow blindly the medical communities dogma and mantras.

BTW, I am a member of the healthcare community, only I practice alternative healing arts, with a better success rate in certain pathologies than the drugs and surgery approach. I work with peers who are even more advanced at alternative medicine than I, and they're success rates would put the mainstream medical community to shame if they could ever get their results recognized by mainstream media outlets. It's all in the money. The quacks con their patients into overpriced, ineffiecient treatments; while the alternative healers struggle to keep their prices low and affordable. After all, most health insurance boycotts alternative healthcare by refusing to offer coverage of those treatments. Those with the money hold all the power.
Time to wake up, little sheep!
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It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times.
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Then blame yourself for blindly accepting an unreliable "remedy" and leave others to make their own choice.
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It is a scientifically proven method of preventing disease, but it depends on a large enough percentage of the population getting vaccinated to truly be effective. So by leaving others to make their own choices, we are all at risk. Fact, whether you like it or not.
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EVERY Vaccination Makes You 10 Times More Likely to Get the Disease it's NOT Supposed to Prevent

Fixed. And so true.
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bsflag..That's The Stupidest Thing I've ever Read..
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I know who the fool is on this side of monitor along with the degree this fool acquired.

Who is the fool on the other side of my monitor?
 Quoting: Démodé


30 years as an RN with Johns Hopkins Hospital,and I'll compare my education to yours anytime..

If you contract Rabbies You Die 100% without the Vaccine.

You Fail!!
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lol
1. A nurse
2. Can't spell "rabies".

Just because you're brainwashed doesn't mean everyone else needs to be.
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Vaccines don't prevent the disease 100% of the time, but if everyone gets vaccinated then it is more difficult to contract the disease in the first place. It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger. Ever had Polio? Meningitis? You can thank vaccines for that... But people might start getting this sort of disease soon if people stop vaccinating because they are afraid of "what the government is putting into their system" ... Fine, if you don't want to get the vaccine that is great but PLEASE take a boat to Madagascar or something, where nobody cares, so the rest of us civilized people can flourish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3788465


^^THIS^^ Thank you for injecting some sanity into an otherwise ridiculous thread. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


The general consensus is 90-100% effective.

Guess you're just going to have to deal with the fact that there are people in this world (myself included) who don't give a fuck what you're afraid of.

I'll stay Mercury free, thank you very much.
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So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations
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Vaccinateins are NOT science:

[link to www.cdc.gov]

“… Efficacy of the toxoid has never been studied in a vaccine trial. …

Besides, all vaccine theory (antibodies give protection) is flawed, it is an established fact that vacine-induced antibodies do not necessarily mean protection:

[link to www.sciencedirect.com]

“…It is known that, in many instances, antigen-specific antibody titers do not correlate with protection.… immunological correlates of protection are largely unknown for many infectious diseases… the immunological mechanisms of vaccine-induced protection remain unknown… there is complete lack of any parameter of cellular-mediated immunity known to correlate with protection… “

Vaxers, why do you believe what’s neven been tested for truth?
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^^THIS^^ Thank you for injecting some sanity into an otherwise ridiculous thread. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Behind the scenes the vaccine issue is not a closed book ok and science is also coming out with the negative issues of vaccines yet these don't create billions for the makers so they never see the light of day in the media.

It is you who needs to educate yourself.
 Quoting: Fhirinne


Once again you show your ignorance. Vaccines are NOT big money makers for pharmaceutical companies, quite the opposite. And doctors lose money on them. Both do it out of an ethical responsbility to prevent disease.
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Not to mention second generation live cancer viruses for all of their kids that are deliberately put into the vaccines.
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Yeah right.
 Quoting: Cahill


Actually, the above poster is quite right. Live cancer viruses have been created by the mad scientists backing big pharma. The viruses are then put into vaccines, along with a cocktail of highly toxic chemicals/heavy metals, such as mercury.

Let me ask all of you brainwashed western medicine lovers a few logical questions:

*Why do you put your faith in doctors who know little to nothing of nutrition, since nutrition is not really part of their medical education? Shouldn't nutrition be the first and most important step to good health? Do you never wonder why the doctors, healthcare professionals and big pharma NEVER educate their patients on propper nutrition? That stupid food pyramid is a joke, btw. It's just to maintain the illusion.

*Why would you trust a pharmaceudical company's drugs, when it is common knowledge that mercury, aluminum and other toxic substances are regularly put into vaccines? Have any of you even heard about all the healthy children suddenly being diagnosed with autism or other smptoms they didn't have prior to being vaccinated?

*Why would you trust a government to have your health as a priority when the government routinely erodes your freedoms, forcing the populace into wage slaves, serving corporate interests rather than the citizenry they're supposed to serve!?! Why would you trust these tyrants when you know damned well that human life means nothing to them! If the government really wanted to protect your health, wouldn't they have stricter regulations regarding medicine and food? Like regulating/banning GMO crops, which have been proven harmful, or legalizing an herb which has been proven time and time again to be highly effective at treating certain disorders? Wouldn't the government ban failed medical practices, such as the toxic chemo poisoning, which more often than naught kills cancer patients faster than the cancer itself? We're talking about roughly 2% success rate of chemotherapy!
Definition of a fool: One who repeats the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

Sounds to me like the fools and quacks are the doctors, pharmaceudical corporations, the mainstream medical community, and the braindead sheep who follow blindly the medical communities dogma and mantras.

BTW, I am a member of the healthcare community, only I practice alternative healing arts, with a better success rate in certain pathologies than the drugs and surgery approach. I work with peers who are even more advanced at alternative medicine than I, and their success rates would put the mainstream medical community to shame if they could ever get their results recognized by mainstream media outlets. It's all in the money. The quacks con their patients into overpriced, ineffiecient treatments; while the alternative healers struggle to keep their prices low and affordable. After all, most health insurance boycotts alternative healthcare by refusing to offer coverage of those treatments. Those with the money hold all the power.
Time to wake up, little sheep!
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*typo
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Ten times more likely.

So why aren't we all dead?
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millions are
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One person gets vaccinated in a third world country it exposes everyone.
I had whopping cough my neighbors had it, I had a light case as they did. we were not vaccinated.

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If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Behind the scenes the vaccine issue is not a closed book ok and science is also coming out with the negative issues of vaccines yet these don't create billions for the makers so they never see the light of day in the media.

It is you who needs to educate yourself.
 Quoting: Fhirinne


Once again you show your ignorance. Vaccines are NOT big money makers for pharmaceutical companies, quite the opposite. And doctors lose money on them. Both do it out of an ethical responsbility to prevent disease.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


lmao
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^^THIS^^ Thank you for injecting some sanity into an otherwise ridiculous thread. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


UR thinking is so ass-backwards...why even GET the vac if U dont think it will help U?
U make no freaking sense.
if the shit doesnt work, why the hell are U taking it???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20542326


Um, maybe because it works for MOST people?! There is only a small percentage for whom the vaccines are inneffective. But there's no way to tell who those unlucky folks are until it's too late.
So to put it in your terms, the "shit" does work, just not 100% of them time.
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Vaccines don't prevent the disease 100% of the time, but if everyone gets vaccinated then it is more difficult to contract the disease in the first place. It's the people who don't bother with getting vaccinated for whatever reason who are putting the rest of us in danger. Ever had Polio? Meningitis? You can thank vaccines for that... But people might start getting this sort of disease soon if people stop vaccinating because they are afraid of "what the government is putting into their system" ... Fine, if you don't want to get the vaccine that is great but PLEASE take a boat to Madagascar or something, where nobody cares, so the rest of us civilized people can flourish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3788465


^^THIS^^ Thank you for injecting some sanity into an otherwise ridiculous thread. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
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yeah we have... its called educate-yourself.org

look it up
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Vaccines are NOT big money makers for pharmaceutical companies
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Yes, they are... they are sold to THE HEALTHY, wich are many millions more than the cases they pretend to prevent.

When vaccines were introduced thte incidence of infectious illnesses was alredy very low.

Besides direct sales, the chronic autoimmune diseases vaccines cause are a stabel source of income for the same companies that also sell the paliatives.
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It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Then blame yourself for blindly accepting an unreliable "remedy" and leave others to make their own choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2698981


It is a scientifically proven method of preventing disease, but it depends on a large enough percentage of the population getting vaccinated to truly be effective. So by leaving others to make their own choices, we are all at risk. Fact, whether you like it or not.
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If you're into authoritarian laws then by all means move to Russia or China.

This is America bitch, get that through your thick fucking skull.

We're not having it.

Life is dangerous...get over it.

By your reasoning, we should ban anything humans do that is dangerous so that you can live in your cozy little bubble of delusions without fear.

Go fuck yourself.
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Ten times more likely.

So why aren't we all dead?
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millions are
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shh, don't let facts get in the way of their fantasy. I'm exiting this thread now, waaaaayy too many ignorant idiots in here. Good luck!
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Re: This Vaccination Makes You 10 Times More Likely to Get the Disease it's Supposed to Prevent
It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times.
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Then blame yourself for blindly accepting an unreliable "remedy" and leave others to make their own choice.
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It is a scientifically proven method of preventing disease, but it depends on a large enough percentage of the population getting vaccinated to truly be effective. So by leaving others to make their own choices, we are all at risk. Fact, whether you like it or not.
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If you're into authoritarian laws then by all means move to Russia or China.

This is America bitch, get that through your thick fucking skull.

We're not having it.

Life is dangerous...get over it.

By your reasoning, we should ban anything humans do that is dangerous so that you can live in your cozy little bubble of delusions without fear.

Go fuck yourself.
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ah, cursing and name-calling; good, classy argument... lol Good luck in life!
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07/30/2012 12:54 PM
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Um, maybe because it works for MOST people?
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Of course, they are admisnitered to HEALTHY people, moron...

So if the healthy stays healthy you claim it's the vaccine, not the fact that he was never ill to begin with...

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07/30/2012 12:55 PM
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^^THIS^^ Thank you for injecting some sanity into an otherwise ridiculous thread. hf
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If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
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It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
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yeah we have... its called educate-yourself.org

look it up
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we are discussing the OPS article which say the vacs are making these people sick with what they were supposed to protected against.its been a big fat LIE that it protects anyone.
get it?????
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07/30/2012 12:56 PM
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Then blame yourself for blindly accepting an unreliable "remedy" and leave others to make their own choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2698981


It is a scientifically proven method of preventing disease, but it depends on a large enough percentage of the population getting vaccinated to truly be effective. So by leaving others to make their own choices, we are all at risk. Fact, whether you like it or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you're into authoritarian laws then by all means move to Russia or China.

This is America bitch, get that through your thick fucking skull.

We're not having it.

Life is dangerous...get over it.

By your reasoning, we should ban anything humans do that is dangerous so that you can live in your cozy little bubble of delusions without fear.

Go fuck yourself.
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ah, cursing and name-calling; good, classy argument... lol Good luck in life!
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Enjoy your fear, fool.
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07/30/2012 01:01 PM
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If you;re vaccinated against an illness, why are you worried about the non vaccinated?

You're safe and have nothing to worry about, right? Mind your own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


It IS my business; it's everyone's business, becaue vaccines are NOT 100% effective, as has been stated a thousand times. So I DO have to worry about you idiots who refuse to accept science and refuse vacconations, because myself or my children might NOT be 100% immunhe to everything despite our vaccinations.
PLEASE educate yourself.
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Behind the scenes the vaccine issue is not a closed book ok and science is also coming out with the negative issues of vaccines yet these don't create billions for the makers so they never see the light of day in the media.

It is you who needs to educate yourself.
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Once again you show your ignorance. Vaccines are NOT big money makers for pharmaceutical companies, quite the opposite. And doctors lose money on them. Both do it out of an ethical responsbility to prevent disease.
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I'm showing my ignorance?? WTF are you even talking about up there as "The global vaccines industry was valued at $24 billion in 2009" and it went up every single year that followed.

The global vaccine market is expected to achieve $34 billion in sales by 2012. With an estimated annual growth rate of 14% during the next five years, vaccines will be the fastest-growing therapeutic area, even outpacing oncology,” according to Research & Markets, a market research firm.

[link to centerforvaccineethicsandpolicy.wordpress.com]

Last Edited by Fhirinne on 07/30/2012 01:15 PM
You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system
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07/30/2012 01:02 PM
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Then blame yourself for blindly accepting an unreliable "remedy" and leave others to make their own choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2698981


It is a scientifically proven method of preventing disease, but it depends on a large enough percentage of the population getting vaccinated to truly be effective. So by leaving others to make their own choices, we are all at risk. Fact, whether you like it or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you're into authoritarian laws then by all means move to Russia or China.

This is America bitch, get that through your thick fucking skull.

We're not having it.

Life is dangerous...get over it.

By your reasoning, we should ban anything humans do that is dangerous so that you can live in your cozy little bubble of delusions without fear.

Go fuck yourself.
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ah, cursing and name-calling; good, classy argument... lol Good luck in life!
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Implying that ANY medication/vaccination should be forcibly administered will engender this reaction in many.

Are you so ignorant of individual rights?
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07/30/2012 01:09 PM
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It is a scientifically proven method of preventing disease, but it depends on a large enough percentage of the population getting vaccinated to truly be effective. So by leaving others to make their own choices, we are all at risk. Fact, whether you like it or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


If you're into authoritarian laws then by all means move to Russia or China.

This is America bitch, get that through your thick fucking skull.

We're not having it.

Life is dangerous...get over it.

By your reasoning, we should ban anything humans do that is dangerous so that you can live in your cozy little bubble of delusions without fear.

Go fuck yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


ah, cursing and name-calling; good, classy argument... lol Good luck in life!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Implying that ANY medication/vaccination should be forcibly administered will engender this reaction in many.

Are you so ignorant of individual rights?
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clappa

She won't be back.
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07/30/2012 01:27 PM
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After reading about This Dr. Mercola guy I wouldn't believe a Fucking thing he said,especially when it comes to my health.

The guys a money grubbing Qwack..
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Go ahead and take your meds. No one is stopping you. But don't force others to take your poison.

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