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99.99% PROOF that James Holmes WAS NOT THE SHOOTER Dark Knight Rises Aurora Colorado - It's VERY SIMPLE

 
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It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
 Quoting: Austin Millbarge


He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
 Quoting: Psych


Uh, no...

There was, in fact, a shooting in the theatre. The shooter was dressed in black; full tactical gear, face covered by gasmask; head covered by helmet... totally unidentifiable because his face/head could not be seen. Holmes was found in parking lot by car... not in theatre, not with tactical gear on.

So, there is no chain of evidence.

You fail.
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He was acting strange from the moment he got caught. When authorities placed evidence bags over his hands to preserve gunshot residue, he began playing with them as if they were two puppets.

Obviously he has got some screws loose, but I really think he is adding on in court. Pleading innocence is a lost cause, insanity is left.
 Quoting: Psych


how is it that you know this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2053677


Was reported in the news.

I know, stupid me. I should stick to what the blogosphere tells me. After all, they are the experts.
 Quoting: Psych


It is stupid you. The media completely fabricated the "notebook sent to his psychiatrist" story.

The prosecutors say it was a hoax. Fox says they got that info from two unidentified police officials, niether of which even exist.

Fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20893655


We have to take two things apart here. Yes, a package was send and the Aurora police took possession of it. The story with regard to the content was indeed most likely fabricated and put out by Fox, and later redacted by Fox.

I am not saying that we should always trust the MSM, especially not when there is a clear conflict of interest and/or an obvious bias.

But to put that aside for a minute. What very often happens is that the media runs with unverified quotes and rumors because they want to have the scoop. These media networks are businesses and they are in it to make money which means having the scoop is very important to them and they are willing to push a unverified story out just for the sake of being first.

There are a lot of things wrong with the media but in the end with stories like this, they are the only source of information. There are a lot of unanswered questions and it is only natural that people are trying to fill in the gaps and come up with theories. However, I think, when you put out a theory you should back it up with something solid.

So therefore, claiming a person might be innocent because they did not pinpoint his whereabouts using cell towers is not a valid argument for me.

If that is good enough for you, fine. I'll wait until more information comes out but as it stands today, James has a lot stacked against him. Right now it appears that even Judge Judy would be able to knock this one out of the park within 15 minutes, including commercial break.
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1. Why would he surrender without incident if you just murdered 12 people and were not identified?
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2. Why after shooting 71 people would you tell the police that your apartment was booby trapped?
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3. How could an out of work college student afford the gear and supplies that were used?
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4. Who taught James Holmes to shoot (better hit-ratio than the cops, says CBS reporter).
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5. DO you believe EVERYTHING you hear from the TV?
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The police chief said they investigated the "phone call" and determined it was inconsequential to the event. That was said on tv by the chief of police.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17881200


Wow - guess he's right - why would we want to know who opened the door?

Unbelievable!!

Does anyone have a link to where the chief of police stated this on the news?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586098


O.K. Here are ALL of the Press Releases from the
Aurora Police Department regarding the shooting.


[link to apps.auroragov.org]


and HERE'S where they SHUT THEIR YAPS, NO MORE INFO
IN ONLY 5 DAYS. This is supposedly and open and shut case, yeah right.


07-25-2012 3:27 PM Announcement of Court Order 7-23-2012

[PDF]
[link to apps.auroragov.org]

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It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
 Quoting: Austin Millbarge


He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
 Quoting: Psych


Uh, no...

There was, in fact, a shooting in the theatre. The shooter was dressed in black; full tactical gear, face covered by gasmask; head covered by helmet... totally unidentifiable because his face/head could not be seen. Holmes was found in parking lot by car... not in theatre, not with tactical gear on.

So, there is no chain of evidence.

You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20782251


Holmes was apprehended within minutes of the 12:39 a.m. shooting at his car behind the theater, where police found him in full riot gear and carrying three weapons, including an AR-15 assault rifle, which can hold upwards of 100 rounds, a Remington 12-gauge shotgun, and a .40 Glock handgun. A fourth handgun was found in the vehicle.

[link to abcnews.go.com]

If you can show me something that contradicts this, please show me. This information might be wrong and if it is, I'll accept that.
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2. Why after shooting 71 people would you tell the police that your apartment was booby trapped?
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He didn't actually say that, he said there "may possibly be explosives", which sounded he only had a vague notion of it.

Freaky.

Rosebud was the original Passwords for one of my Modems - I'll have to dig it out but I'm pretty sure it was 'Rosebud1978' or 'Rosebud1979'..Ffs.
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It was Rosebud1979 agent
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It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
 Quoting: Austin Millbarge


He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
 Quoting: Psych


Uh, no...

There was, in fact, a shooting in the theatre. The shooter was dressed in black; full tactical gear, face covered by gasmask; head covered by helmet... totally unidentifiable because his face/head could not be seen. Holmes was found in parking lot by car... not in theatre, not with tactical gear on.

So, there is no chain of evidence.

You fail.
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Holmes was apprehended within minutes of the 12:39 a.m. shooting at his car behind the theater, where police found him in full riot gear and carrying three weapons, including an AR-15 assault rifle, which can hold upwards of 100 rounds, a Remington 12-gauge shotgun, and a .40 Glock handgun. A fourth handgun was found in the vehicle.

[link to abcnews.go.com]

If you can show me something that contradicts this, please show me. This information might be wrong and if it is, I'll accept that.
 Quoting: Psych



Corbin Dates, THE PRIME WITNESS, says this

[link to www.youtube.com]
00:57
"I was sitting in the second row, probably four seats away from the right aisle,where people usually enter from. Uhhh, another guy walked in after me, sat in front of me in the front row, probably to the far right seat. And I noticed he got a phone call. Most people when they get phone calls
they would take it out into the lobby, but this person directly went to the Emergency Exit.
And ON THE PHONE THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS PROPPING THE DOOR OPEN
with his foot. And he was (?) IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS DIRECTING SOMEBODY TO
COME TOWARDS HIS DIRECTION."

Corbin Dates/Dayton/ J. Kent was there, you were Not.

Psych You Said
Holmes was apprehended within minutes of the 12:39 a.m. shooting at his car behind the theater, where police found him in full riot gear and carrying three weapons, including an AR-15 assault rifle, which can hold upwards of 100 rounds, a Remington 12-gauge shotgun, and a .40 Glock handgun. A fourth handgun was found in the vehicle.

IT'S CALLED CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
Please for the love of god look up that phrase.

Records of the PHONE CALL (What this ENTIRE THREAD IS ABOUT)
Would either establish that a phone call was made to James Holmes or Not. This is called EVIDENTIARY EVIDENCE. You know, a fact.

Also, the MERE fact that a witness saw a "guy" open the emergency exit and said "IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS DIRECTING SOMEBODY TO
COME TOWARDS HIS DIRECTION" indicates MORE than 1 person was involved. Add to that the Aurora Police Department is COMPLETELY ignoring PRIME WITNESS TESTIMONY should scare the crap out of anyone.

And yes, Psych, I have to admit, You rattled me earlier in this thread, hurray for you, but I'm trying to stay focused. What do you get out of rattling someone who's trying to stay focused? If you have something positive to contribute, Great, but if not, can you go bother someone else?

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It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
 Quoting: Austin Millbarge


He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
 Quoting: Psych


Uh, no...

There was, in fact, a shooting in the theatre. The shooter was dressed in black; full tactical gear, face covered by gasmask; head covered by helmet... totally unidentifiable because his face/head could not be seen. Holmes was found in parking lot by car... not in theatre, not with tactical gear on.

So, there is no chain of evidence.

You fail.
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Holmes was apprehended within minutes of the 12:39 a.m. shooting at his car behind the theater, where police found him in full riot gear and carrying three weapons, including an AR-15 assault rifle, which can hold upwards of 100 rounds, a Remington 12-gauge shotgun, and a .40 Glock handgun. A fourth handgun was found in the vehicle.

[link to abcnews.go.com]

If you can show me something that contradicts this, please show me. This information might be wrong and if it is, I'll accept that.
 Quoting: Psych


There seem to be conflicting reports about what he was wearing when the police spotted him, and whether he was sat in the car or sat by it, next to all the riot gear:

[link to mynorthwest.com]

Helicopter view showing stuff strewn about:

[link to msnbcmedia.msn.com]

Also something else I just read for the first time:

"After the massacre Holmes calmly told detectives he had taken 100mg of the prescription painkiller Vicodin" (Guardian):

[link to www.google.com]
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He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
 Quoting: Psych


Uh, no...

There was, in fact, a shooting in the theatre. The shooter was dressed in black; full tactical gear, face covered by gasmask; head covered by helmet... totally unidentifiable because his face/head could not be seen. Holmes was found in parking lot by car... not in theatre, not with tactical gear on.

So, there is no chain of evidence.

You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20782251


Holmes was apprehended within minutes of the 12:39 a.m. shooting at his car behind the theater, where police found him in full riot gear and carrying three weapons, including an AR-15 assault rifle, which can hold upwards of 100 rounds, a Remington 12-gauge shotgun, and a .40 Glock handgun. A fourth handgun was found in the vehicle.

[link to abcnews.go.com]

If you can show me something that contradicts this, please show me. This information might be wrong and if it is, I'll accept that.
 Quoting: Psych



Corbin Dates, THE PRIME WITNESS, says this

[link to www.youtube.com]
00:57
"I was sitting in the second row, probably four seats away from the right aisle,where people usually enter from. Uhhh, another guy walked in after me, sat in front of me in the front row, probably to the far right seat. And I noticed he got a phone call. Most people when they get phone calls
they would take it out into the lobby, but this person directly went to the Emergency Exit.
And ON THE PHONE THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS PROPPING THE DOOR OPEN
with his foot. And he was (?) IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS DIRECTING SOMEBODY TO
COME TOWARDS HIS DIRECTION."

Corbin Dates/Dayton/ J. Kent was there, you were Not.

Psych You Said
Holmes was apprehended within minutes of the 12:39 a.m. shooting at his car behind the theater, where police found him in full riot gear and carrying three weapons, including an AR-15 assault rifle, which can hold upwards of 100 rounds, a Remington 12-gauge shotgun, and a .40 Glock handgun. A fourth handgun was found in the vehicle.

IT'S CALLED CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
Please for the love of god look up that phrase.

Records of the PHONE CALL (What this ENTIRE THREAD IS ABOUT)
Would either establish that a phone call was made to James Holmes or Not. This is called EVIDENTIARY EVIDENCE. You know, a fact.

Also, the MERE fact that a witness saw a "guy" open the emergency exit and said "IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS DIRECTING SOMEBODY TO
COME TOWARDS HIS DIRECTION" indicates MORE than 1 person was involved. Add to that the Aurora Police Department is COMPLETELY ignoring PRIME WITNESS TESTIMONY should scare the crap out of anyone.

And yes, Psych, I have to admit, You rattled me earlier in this thread, hurray for you, but I'm trying to stay focused. What do you get out of rattling someone who's trying to stay focused? If you have something positive to contribute, Great, but if not, can you go bother someone else?
 Quoting: Austin Millbarge


Look, here is the thing. I am not here just to cattle your cage. I am here to discuss what happened. Discussions enables us to see if our views on certain matters hold ground. Are you over here to discuss what happened or are you just trying to push your theory.

You proposed that the police should use cell towers the put James Holmes at the crime scene.

If you would look back at the beginning of this thread you see me clearly responding to that specific quote. James Holmes was most certainly there, the one who entered the theater in full riot gear, went on a rampage, and got out of the theater were he was apprehended, still wearing the gear.

After that you guys started moving away from the topic by throwing a bunch of other stories in the mix.

As for contributing, here are my questions. Was James Holmes working alone? Was the guy who made the phone call and opened the emergency exit James Holmes or was it someone helping him? Did the person who made a call, actually make a call or was he pretending so people would not find it suspicious he was walking towards and opened the emergency exit. This is where the cell towers could play a role, to pinpoint the one who made the call. But we don't have to check the cell towers to pinpoint James at the crime scene because everything already points to him being there. Even St3vie Wonder can see that.

But do what you wanna do. As requested, this was my last post in this thread. I hope you attract a bunch of people who all agree with you, sing Kumbaya with you, and pat you on the back all day.

Good luck.

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What about the very distinct possibility that the phone call was a ruse?

Meaning, the shooter sat in the theater, pretended to take a phone call (as an excuse to get up and leave the theater)and then shimmed the door on his way outside.

Then he changed clothes and returned to the theater.


Hey, I ain't saying that the shooter was JH because so far...nobody has actually placed the orange-haired guy at the theater before or during the movie. OR during the shooting (his identity was obscured by the gas mask etc)

The phone call records might be a moot point because it's possible that no phone call actually took place.

OR the phone records might be a moot point because it may place JH elsewhere during the whole event...
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You Had me at "Ergo" chuckle
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The witness is NOT saying the guy who received the phone call was the shooter. Not in any way is he saying that. More like the guy with the phone call opened the door and was GESTURING TO THE SOMEONE OUTSIDE. Then shimmed the door and went back to his seat, and FIFTEEN MINUTES LATER the shooter came in the door.

That alone makes the whole thing smell rotten.

And Holmes is not playing the insanity card. Nor is he playing the amnesia card. Shit, we don't know WHAT card he is playing because they have SEALED THE CASE.

You will accept that he is guilty when they tell you to, and then shut up about it. By the time that even comes up in a month or so, you will have forgotten about it because of Lady Gaga or some shit, and will just go, "Oh yeah, the Batman shooter. Crazy guy. Look, American Idol!"
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it was a hit on sherif joes family .

he kepted up with the birth certifcate thing.

first bin laden was killed, not a bunch of RANDOM? americans are killed.

but it was sherif joes family
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The witness is NOT saying the guy who received the phone call was the shooter. Not in any way is he saying that. More like the guy with the phone call opened the door and was GESTURING TO THE SOMEONE OUTSIDE. Then shimmed the door and went back to his seat, and FIFTEEN MINUTES LATER the shooter came in the door.

That alone makes the whole thing smell rotten.

And Holmes is not playing the insanity card. Nor is he playing the amnesia card. Shit, we don't know WHAT card he is playing because they have SEALED THE CASE.

You will accept that he is guilty when they tell you to, and then shut up about it. By the time that even comes up in a month or so, you will have forgotten about it because of Lady Gaga or some shit, and will just go, "Oh yeah, the Batman shooter. Crazy guy. Look, American Idol!"
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OK, guy in theater, gets a call from, for arguments
sake James Holmes, check the cell phone
records for James. Places James at the scene.

OK, James is in the theater and gets a call,
Check cell phone records to Place James
at the scene.

James either made or received a call,
AND if he didn't, then get this,
1 person outside (Not James)
calls another person inside (Not James)

Sounds ridiculous, but considering
The way James is so drugged now,
Is it Impossible to believe HE WASN'T
drugged on July 20 and driven to
the back of the theater by the shooter
Or ONE of the shooters?


Hey the MSM is all hell bent on a cell
phone being involved, so I'm coming
right back like a BULLDOG that won't
let go. Grrrrrr.


Ok, wait, the Aurora Police ARE NOT
looking for the guy who opened the door?

Gosh, isn't that called, uh I dunno..

ACCESSORY To Murder?

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It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
 Quoting: Austin Millbarge


He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
 Quoting: Psych


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It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
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He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
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No. They caught a masked man standing by Holme's car with weapons. It could have been anyone.

Indeed, a kidnapped and drugged and sleep deprived Holmes could have been substituted for the real shooter somewhere between the parking lot of the theater and booking at the jail.

They didn't just cuff him and put him in back of a patrol car, lol. They had to have taken some precautions that he was rigged to explode like a suicide bomber. Explosives precautions ought to mean isolation and seclusion, ie not a lot of eyewitnesses to the unmasking.

if the defense wants to say an innocent Holmes was framed, the prosecution has to PROVE that it is IMPOSSIBLE that somewhere along the way a shooter stripped out of his gear and scampered off and a James Holmes was produced as the unmasked shooter.

Innocent until proven guilty.
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How do you know he didn't use a throw away phone specifically for this mission.

Dumbass
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It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
 Quoting: Austin Millbarge


He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
 Quoting: Psych


CIRCUMSTANTIAL. No one in the theater SAW ANYONE resembling
JAMES HOLMES
, Only a dark shadowy figure, firing with military precision. Whilst outside the back of the theater, James Holmes practically pissed himself when SWAT & Police took him into custody WITH NO RESISTANCE. That is contrary to WITNESS TESTIMONY of a Military Precision shooter with 3 guns, 2 tear gas grenades and a partridge in a pear tree.

HAVE YOU SEEN James Holmes Lately? He couldn't count to ten on his fingers.
 Quoting: Austin Millbarge


Wearing the same type of gas mask the shooter wore while sitting in his car. This raises quite a few questions honestly. If he had been the shooter, why didn't he drive away?

If he wasn't the shooter, why did the set up booby traps in his apartment and tell people he was going to do it before it happened?
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James Holmes had no friends so who would he call? It was a fake phone call but we mainly need to know if this person had red hair and was really
Holmes
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Uh, no...

There was, in fact, a shooting in the theatre. The shooter was dressed in black; full tactical gear, face covered by gasmask; head covered by helmet... totally unidentifiable because his face/head could not be seen. Holmes was found in parking lot by car... not in theatre, not with tactical gear on.

So, there is no chain of evidence.

You fail.
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Holmes was apprehended within minutes of the 12:39 a.m. shooting at his car behind the theater, where police found him in full riot gear and carrying three weapons, including an AR-15 assault rifle, which can hold upwards of 100 rounds, a Remington 12-gauge shotgun, and a .40 Glock handgun. A fourth handgun was found in the vehicle.

[link to abcnews.go.com]

If you can show me something that contradicts this, please show me. This information might be wrong and if it is, I'll accept that.
 Quoting: Psych



Corbin Dates, THE PRIME WITNESS, says this

[link to www.youtube.com]
00:57
"I was sitting in the second row, probably four seats away from the right aisle,where people usually enter from. Uhhh, another guy walked in after me, sat in front of me in the front row, probably to the far right seat. And I noticed he got a phone call. Most people when they get phone calls
they would take it out into the lobby, but this person directly went to the Emergency Exit.
And ON THE PHONE THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS PROPPING THE DOOR OPEN
with his foot. And he was (?) IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS DIRECTING SOMEBODY TO
COME TOWARDS HIS DIRECTION."

Corbin Dates/Dayton/ J. Kent was there, you were Not.

Psych You Said
Holmes was apprehended within minutes of the 12:39 a.m. shooting at his car behind the theater, where police found him in full riot gear and carrying three weapons, including an AR-15 assault rifle, which can hold upwards of 100 rounds, a Remington 12-gauge shotgun, and a .40 Glock handgun. A fourth handgun was found in the vehicle.

IT'S CALLED CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
Please for the love of god look up that phrase.

Records of the PHONE CALL (What this ENTIRE THREAD IS ABOUT)
Would either establish that a phone call was made to James Holmes or Not. This is called EVIDENTIARY EVIDENCE. You know, a fact.

Also, the MERE fact that a witness saw a "guy" open the emergency exit and said "IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS DIRECTING SOMEBODY TO
COME TOWARDS HIS DIRECTION" indicates MORE than 1 person was involved. Add to that the Aurora Police Department is COMPLETELY ignoring PRIME WITNESS TESTIMONY should scare the crap out of anyone.

And yes, Psych, I have to admit, You rattled me earlier in this thread, hurray for you, but I'm trying to stay focused. What do you get out of rattling someone who's trying to stay focused? If you have something positive to contribute, Great, but if not, can you go bother someone else?
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Look, here is the thing. I am not here just to cattle your cage. I am here to discuss what happened. Discussions enables us to see if our views on certain matters hold ground. Are you over here to discuss what happened or are you just trying to push your theory.

You proposed that the police should use cell towers the put James Holmes at the crime scene.

If you would look back at the beginning of this thread you see me clearly responding to that specific quote. James Holmes was most certainly there, the one who entered the theater in full riot gear, went on a rampage, and got out of the theater were he was apprehended, still wearing the gear.

After that you guys started moving away from the topic by throwing a bunch of other stories in the mix.

As for contributing, here are my questions. Was James Holmes working alone? Was the guy who made the phone call and opened the emergency exit James Holmes or was it someone helping him? Did the person who made a call, actually make a call or was he pretending so people would not find it suspicious he was walking towards and opened the emergency exit. This is where the cell towers could play a role, to pinpoint the one who made the call. But we don't have to check the cell towers to pinpoint James at the crime scene because everything already points to him being there. Even St3vie Wonder can see that.

But do what you wanna do. As requested, this was my last post in this thread. I hope you attract a bunch of people who all agree with you, sing Kumbaya with you, and pat you on the back all day.

Good luck.
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dude its pretty simple, he took a call and walked out of the theatre and in walks someone dressed head to toe in riot gear. Cops then arrive on the scene suspiciously fast and find holmes in the passenger side of the car with no riot gear on, the gear was on the ground and there were 2 gas masks(explain that one please). So if no one in the theatre can identify him how do you know he is guilty, the media pretty much convicted this guy before he has a right to a fair trial and you cant see how he could be the fall guy? also if you saw him in court its not hard to explain why he may of just sat in the car and not say anything dude didnt know what the hell was going on or why he was in court. So with all these questions and people looking closely at what happened, what do they do? O thats right they seal the case and remove cameras from the courtroom, pretty open and shut case right?
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Re: 99.99% PROOF that James Holmes WAS NOT THE SHOOTER Dark Knight Rises Aurora Colorado - It's VERY SIMPLE
It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
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He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
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CIRCUMSTANTIAL. No one in the theater SAW ANYONE resembling
JAMES HOLMES
, Only a dark shadowy figure, firing with military precision. Whilst outside the back of the theater, James Holmes practically pissed himself when SWAT & Police took him into custody WITH NO RESISTANCE. That is contrary to WITNESS TESTIMONY of a Military Precision shooter with 3 guns, 2 tear gas grenades and a partridge in a pear tree.

HAVE YOU SEEN James Holmes Lately? He couldn't count to ten on his fingers.
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Wearing the same type of gas mask the shooter wore while sitting in his car. This raises quite a few questions honestly. If he had been the shooter, why didn't he drive away?

If he wasn't the shooter, why did the set up booby traps in his apartment and tell people he was going to do it before it happened?
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He had to take off some equipment first before driving and the police came so fast he was blocked off before he could get away.
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It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
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He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
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CIRCUMSTANTIAL. No one in the theater SAW ANYONE resembling
JAMES HOLMES
, Only a dark shadowy figure, firing with military precision. Whilst outside the back of the theater, James Holmes practically pissed himself when SWAT & Police took him into custody WITH NO RESISTANCE. That is contrary to WITNESS TESTIMONY of a Military Precision shooter with 3 guns, 2 tear gas grenades and a partridge in a pear tree.

HAVE YOU SEEN James Holmes Lately? He couldn't count to ten on his fingers.
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Wearing the same type of gas mask the shooter wore while sitting in his car. This raises quite a few questions honestly. If he had been the shooter, why didn't he drive away?

If he wasn't the shooter, why did the set up booby traps in his apartment and tell people he was going to do it before it happened?
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He had to take off some equipment first before driving and the police came so fast he was blocked off before he could get away.
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Re: 99.99% PROOF that James Holmes WAS NOT THE SHOOTER Dark Knight Rises Aurora Colorado - It's VERY SIMPLE

Hey the MSM is all hell bent on a cell
phone being involved, so I'm coming
right back like a BULLDOG that won't
let go. Grrrrrr.

 Quoting: Austin Millbarge



...and if the phone call aspect is actually a ruse set in place by the msm, then you will be grabbing onto a piece of useless information, and refusing to let go.

meanwhile...what aspects could you be overlooking?

Too many weird elements to the whole thing, and really, we don't know what is true and what is propaganda. Something is definitely not right, but in the web of lies, we might find ourselves grabbing onto the wrong details, and losing the plot. Plus the 'witness' who put this information forward seems to be an actor...so is this actually mis-information? That's very possible!

The way to look at this is:

"The media says there was a phone call"

NOT

"There was definitely a phone call, no question about it"

Question everything, and then question it some more, but don't insist on anything here being factual. The one thing we DO know is, we're dealing with professional liars.
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The witness is NOT saying the guy who received the phone call was the shooter. Not in any way is he saying that. More like the guy with the phone call opened the door and was GESTURING TO THE SOMEONE OUTSIDE. Then shimmed the door and went back to his seat, and FIFTEEN MINUTES LATER the shooter came in the door.

That alone makes the whole thing smell rotten.

And Holmes is not playing the insanity card. Nor is he playing the amnesia card. Shit, we don't know WHAT card he is playing because they have SEALED THE CASE.

You will accept that he is guilty when they tell you to, and then shut up about it. By the time that even comes up in a month or so, you will have forgotten about it because of Lady Gaga or some shit, and will just go, "Oh yeah, the Batman shooter. Crazy guy. Look, American Idol!"
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Thank you for an intelligent post. I didn't know about the door shimmer.
He sounds like an accomplice.
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It's ALL ABOUT placing JAMES HOLMES at the SCENE OF A CRIME.
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He was caught red handed. They snatched him up in the parking lot. No need to confirm if he was really there.
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you cant be that stupid
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The witness is NOT saying the guy who received the phone call was the shooter. Not in any way is he saying that. More like the guy with the phone call opened the door and was GESTURING TO THE SOMEONE OUTSIDE. Then shimmed the door and went back to his seat, and FIFTEEN MINUTES LATER the shooter came in the door.


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Okay, NOWHERE in this interview does Corbin D state that the guy who took the phone call shimmed the door and returned to his seat. What he does say is, the guy who took the call went to the exit, propped the door open w/his foot, and appeard to motion towards someone who was outside. He (Corbin) then states that he (Corbin) didn't think much more of it until 15 minutes later when the door swung open and the gunman entered.


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THINK about this. The accomplice is gonna go and sit back down in the front row, knowing that his buddy is gonna walk through the door and start shooting in a few minutes???
Not just 'No' but 'Hell no'

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