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Michelle Obama Saying That Barack Obama (Barry Soetoro) Was Born In Kenya

 
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TLDR; its a cultural term. You can hate him, I guess, for caring about Kenya even remotely as much (or theorize him caring only about Kenya) as he cares about USA, but it has outright nothing to do with *PLACE OF BIRTH*
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You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
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You're kidding, right? I have never heard of anybody doing such a thing unless they were in fact born in their home country.
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Right . . . if your family was of, for instance, Irish descent, would you as a legal American EVER refer to your home country of Ireland??!

No. I don't think anyone would.
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You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


You're kidding, right? I have never heard of anybody doing such a thing unless they were in fact born in their home country.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I know many who do that. They tend to come from more strictly traditionalistic families though.

The children born on another country will be essentially trained through parenting to think of their non-birth country as still both their 'home country' or even 'homeland'.
At least for many Arabs, they see a diaspora of their own as war occurs, and they feel a need to keep a sense of 'home' there for as long as possible, as long as they still have family in those other countries.

I don't know how it works for Kenyans/part-Kenyans though.
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Wow!

There it is right there folks, and with all the other evidence what more do you need?

I hope this goes viral so everyone can see, though I doubt anything will be done as per usual.

In the end, its our apathy that will get us!
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It went viral two years ago. Nobody who matters cares. It's not our apathy that's the problem.
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Spot on. We don't matter, unfortunately. Except to each other.
Love thy neighbor.
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You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


You're kidding, right? I have never heard of anybody doing such a thing unless they were in fact born in their home country.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Right . . . if your family was of, for instance, Irish descent, would you as a legal American EVER refer to your home country of Ireland??!

No. I don't think anyone would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20957175


Um, yes they do?

I'm of very Euro descent and I have family members from Scotland who, though not born there, their parents were and they were taught by their parents to regard Scotland as their home. Some of them 'returned' to it (even though they were not born there). I'd like to visit them again sometime :)
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I knew Obama was a Kenyan first before any one else years and years ago and now His fat wookie comes out like its goin' down first like then and now..... Oh pardon me yak
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nobody really cares... we need arnold now !!!
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You weren't born here, someone else was!
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07/31/2012 02:42 AM
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If by some miracle this became a real issue the dems will put hilary straight on the top of the ticket, and she will win.
Mitt is a doofus of the first order and does not stand a chance.
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Yes, he be greatest Kenyan ever to be President in America!
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07/31/2012 02:49 AM
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Did you notice around the 2:43 mark she says "We can oppose divisive constitutional amendments that would strip civil rights and benefits from LGBT Americans because discrimination has no place in a nation founded on the promise of equality."

Uhh What???? Divisive Constitutional Amendments so we have a Constitution that strips civil rights and benefits from Gay people and a Constitution that is Divisive???

I am confused Mrs. Oafro
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Look she said 'his home country', nothing about his country of birth. That would be 'his country of birth'. I don't think he was born here, but this title is misleading.
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Mkay. Why did you lie in the title. I can't fucking stand Obama. Dick.
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You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


Unbelievably ignorant statements.

You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


You're kidding, right? I have never heard of anybody doing such a thing unless they were in fact born in their home country.
 Quoting: Bluebird


True voice of reason.

You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


This. People are being rather stupid.

My boyfriend was born in Lebanon, but his family had to leave to Quebec when war broke out.

His younger brother was born in Quebec.

His younger brother will still call Lebanon is 'home country' as it is where his family came from.

It (and I've spoken with my boyfriend about this) usually takes at least 2-3 generations before 'home country' becomes less useful of a phrase and personal value, and 3-5 generations until assimilation into local culture takes place on the larger scale.

I'm a 4th generation Polish/Ukrainian/who-knows-what-else and as such, calling any of those countries my 'home country' doesn't make any more sense.

But to my grandmother, who was born in Canada, it does.

And to my mother, who was born in Canada, it would have made sense at least as a child.



Michelle Obama calling Kenya the 'home country' of Barack, is still the same as saying 'his family came from here, so he feels a kinship with other people either in or from Kenya'. Logically (though I don't know his brain), the same feeling extends to Hawaii/USA, and other words from the Obamas reflect that as well.

And I'm NO defender of Barack Obama.
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If any of what you said was true in this case he would embrace the fact, but he denies it is his "home country", regardless of whatever spin you try to ad to it.

You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


You're kidding, right? I have never heard of anybody doing such a thing unless they were in fact born in their home country.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Right . . . if your family was of, for instance, Irish descent, would you as a legal American EVER refer to your home country of Ireland??!

No. I don't think anyone would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20957175


Yet another voice of reason.

You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


You're kidding, right? I have never heard of anybody doing such a thing unless they were in fact born in their home country.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I know many who do that. They tend to come from more strictly traditionalistic families though.

The children born on another country will be essentially trained through parenting to think of their non-birth country as still both their 'home country' or even 'homeland'.
At least for many Arabs, they see a diaspora of their own as war occurs, and they feel a need to keep a sense of 'home' there for as long as possible, as long as they still have family in those other countries.

I don't know how it works for Kenyans/part-Kenyans though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18958614


No you don't. Stop grasping for straws.

You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


You're kidding, right? I have never heard of anybody doing such a thing unless they were in fact born in their home country.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Right . . . if your family was of, for instance, Irish descent, would you as a legal American EVER refer to your home country of Ireland??!

No. I don't think anyone would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20957175


Um, yes they do?

I'm of very Euro descent and I have family members from Scotland who, though not born there, their parents were and they were taught by their parents to regard Scotland as their home. Some of them 'returned' to it (even though they were not born there). I'd like to visit them again sometime :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18958614


You are failing to see the forest for all of the trees in the way. Obama claims to be born in the US and disassociates himself from Kenya whenever it has been brought up.

Remember, if you voted for Black Osama in 2008 to prove you aren't a racist, you will have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you aren't an idiot.
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Only one week after reporting that Michelle Obama may be having a "steamy secret affair" with a Secret Service agent, The Globe has just unleashed another bombshell that may very well sink the foundering Obama Regime. According to the Globe, long-standing tensions between Barack Obama and Bill Clinton reached the boiling point during a recent golf outing at Andrews Air Force Base.

[link to conservativeamericaonline.blogspot.com]
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I GOTS'A PEACE PRIZE! (Official Song)

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strikes for Liberty?"
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Just give up, you people. Nothing will happen, no matter what kind of so-called evidence is brought forth.
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At this point the only thing I want to know is where is he going after he gets the boot.
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HIS JEWISH MASTERS WILL TAKE CARE OF HIM.
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She must be racist

hmm
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Who cares? the option is Romney lol! Romney is dumber than dirt. He's a joke... in fact worse than a joke. Watching Romney lie and when i say lie i mean everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. He makes Obammy look like a God! I'd rather have Obammy Born in the USA or not I DON'T CARE. It's fixed anyway Obammer will be reappointed by TPTB. All we get is a dog and pony show.
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Here is the conspiracy that would have had to exist if Barack Hussein Obama II were not born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on Aug. 4, 1961:

First, the local newspapers would have had to have been in on the scheme, because they ran notices of his birth among all the other local births that week. Second, the Immigration and Naturalization Service would have had to have been covering something up, because INS officials were closely tracking Barack Obama Sr. when he was at the University of Hawaii on a student visa from Kenya. They thought that he was a bigamist — which he was, having married a woman in Kenya before coming to the States — and a womanizer, which he also was. INS documents in the weeks and months before and after the son’s birth clearly establish the father’s whereabouts and the birth of his son. Finally, the name of Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann, was unusual enough that doctors and nurses in Honolulu remembered it and her giving birth. One prominent doctor was asked by a young journalist if anything interesting had happened in the medical world that week, and he responded, “Well, Stanley had a baby!”

In tandem with the birther notion comes the idea that Obama is a secret Muslim. His Kenyan grandfather, Hussein Onyango, was Muslim; his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was Muslim; as a boy he was instructed in Islam at a school in Jakarta; and many of his college friends were Muslim. None of this adds up to Obama being Muslim, except in the minds of conspiratorialists. Obama never met his Kenyan grandfather. After infancy, he spent time with his Kenyan father only once, and in any case Barack Obama Sr. was an atheist. The truth is that Muslims had nothing to do with the rise of the Obamas of Kenya and that conservative evangelical Christians were essential every step of the way.

It was proselytizing Seventh-day Adventists who first came to the Obamas’ villages out near Lake Victoria at the start of the 20th century. They taught English and Western ways to the first wave of young boys from the Luo tribe, including Hussein Onyango. His son, the president’s father, was also educated at a missionary school. Later, as a young adult, Barack Obama Sr. was mentored by a remarkable evangelical Christian, Betty Mooney, whose grandfather was one of the founders of Texas Christian University. Mooney, who went to Kenya in the late 1950s to spread the gospel and literacy, met Obama Sr. in Nairobi and hired him to translate some of her literacy books into the Luo tribal language. She encouraged and helped sponsor his coming to the United States and specifically to the University of Hawaii, where he met Stanley Ann Dunham. One can say that President Obama would not exist except for evangelical Christians.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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I believe that no one can do anything about that.

Here's why Thread: This explains a LOT about Obama (and US presidents) Are you ready for true conspiracy?

damned
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Layer upon layer: Opening Obama's birth certificate in Adobe Illustrator


1.Tiny fragments the same color as the safety paper pattern on the top edge just left of center

2.Tiny fragments the same color as the safety paper pattern on the top edge just above the certification date

3.The letters "Non" from the word None in box 17a.

4."AUG - 8 196" - part of a stamped date in box 20.

5."AUG - 8" and the digit 6 in 1961in box 22.

6."APR 25 2011" at the bottom left of the page.

7.The certification stamp of the state registrar at the bottom right.

8.Most of the remaining typed letters on the form, the handwritten dates, and the last half of Ann Dunham Obama's name.

9.Everything else -- the safety paper pattern, with white ghosts or haloes around the letters were first half of Ann Stanley Obama's signature, the signature of the Physician, all but one letter of the original registrar's signature, the form grid, and scattered letters -- the R in Barack, the K in Kenya, the S in Stanley, the last digit of the sequence number in the upper left of the page, and the handwritten numbers (which look like coding for statistical purposes)


[link to www.batesline.com]

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Thread: Cover-Up: Immigration Records Missing for Week of Obama's Birth!

Thread: BREAKING only INS records for ONLY FOR week of OBAMA'S BIRTH MISSING!!!!

Thread: Critical Immigration records missing from the National Archives!!!
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OMG I can't believe you guys are still on this one. I can't believe this is pinned!
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Enough already...at what point will you concede that this is a moot point? How many years? It's done, and you or I can't change it.

Do you get it?

If not, how many more years will you cling to this idea?

If Obama is re-elected, will you continue to waste 4 more years of your sanity chasing demons?

GLWT
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But obama is black how he could been bron in Kenya is she telling the turth or she is liying maby theres two Obamas?
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?

You might want to learn how to spell and put a sentence together before you go on the internet.
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 Quoting: Indian Outlaw


What a moron. She doesn't say he was born in Kenya. She is talking about his heritage, the same way the Irish talk about Ireland, etc. This has been told to you birthers many times. MORON
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If this is your main concern and most of your life is taken up by this issue then their slight of hand worked on you.

Get a life and form your own opinions, not what others have told you, this all started as a rumor and thats all it still is, no solid proof has ever been suplied.

Stop being a follower.
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Only one week after reporting that Michelle Obama may be having a "steamy secret affair" with a Secret Service agent, The Globe has just unleashed another bombshell that may very well sink the foundering Obama Regime. According to the Globe, long-standing tensions between Barack Obama and Bill Clinton reached the boiling point during a recent golf outing at Andrews Air Force Base.

[link to conservativeamericaonline.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: RonTiger


Whew! That was a good one! Classic for Obammy to play the race card when someone who should know calls him the worst president ever. I don't like either clinton or obama. Divide and conquer is still a good thing.
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You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


You're kidding, right? I have never heard of anybody doing such a thing unless they were in fact born in their home country.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Right . . . if your family was of, for instance, Irish descent, would you as a legal American EVER refer to your home country of Ireland??!

No. I don't think anyone would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20957175


Actually, they do.
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You realize that people of a British decent though born in USA would sometimes refer to Britain as their 'home country' right? Or you just believe what you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20719685


You're kidding, right? I have never heard of anybody doing such a thing unless they were in fact born in their home country.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Right . . . if your family was of, for instance, Irish descent, would you as a legal American EVER refer to your home country of Ireland??!

No. I don't think anyone would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20957175


Lol ok go asked some Irish Americans or Italian Americans in New York that one and see what they say, dont comemt on things you know fuck all about.
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Anyone notice the weird noise Michelle makes in between short pauses during her speech? She must have learned that in her speaking classes on how to brainwash a large group of people
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