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FUKUSHIMA: Genetic mutations from radiation exposure are up to 100 times higher

 
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When will we see recent birth records from japan..? No mention so far.
 Quoting: Waterbug




Ergo there is a published official Statistic of the
last Year, until now there are no confirmed
Cases about Abnormalities!

 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Yep.. I just checked vital statistics and Japan is fine. Life expectancy the highest in the world..

Isn't that great..? No abnormalities..?
 Quoting: Waterbug




Well.. there is this..




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Cesium Connection to Heart Disease, Japan Reports 14% Increase
[link to www.huntingtonnews.net]

[snip]

According to a translation posted by Energy News, Dr.Yury Bandazhevsky of Belarus examined the people exposed to radiation and the people who had died of Chernobyl and clinically identified the association between Cesium radiation and cardiac disease.

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Japanese Writer, Professor: “Extreme increase of mortality caused by cardiac disease” in Fukushima — Death rate “might give the creeps to some people”
[link to enenews.com]

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Report: Mortality rising in contaminated regions of East Japan — “Very likely the number of cases of disease and death increased associated with radiation”
[link to enenews.com]

~

Yury Bandazhevsky
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[snip]

Scientific works
Chernobyl
Caesium-137 levels in children's organs were examined at autopsy. The highest accumulation of Cs-137 was found in the endocrine glands, in particular the thyroid, the adrenals and the pancreas. High levels were also found in the heart, the thymus and the spleen.
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At the very least check out these recent images...from ONE 20x30 flower bed in the midwest.

Fibonacci disruption can clearly be visualize in the center of the flowers. Some are "cut" like pies, some split into many smaller round centers, others...well, others are just plain Fuk'd

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When will we see recent birth records from japan..? No mention so far.
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I remember that i posted the Statistics from
Fukushima, Ibaraki and Miyagi Prefectures in
my big Fuku-Thread, ca. in 02/12!

Ergo there is a published official Statistic of the
last Year, until now there are no confirmed
Cases about Abnormalities!

The cases of Radchick are more Rumors and
wrong Translations!

As i said it is by far too early for a significant
increase of Genetic Defects!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom

You are truly an idiot, you're attempting to shill a woman who's gained the respect of many of the worlds foremost authorities on nuclear energy and it's affects on the environment and the human race. She does her homework and presents factual, documented and verifiable information for all to disseminate themselves while people like you attempt to cover the truth by discrediting them
 Quoting: siniXster


About who you are talking about,
Radchick or Leuren Meurot or H. Caldicott?

Talk with People who know about both
(not Radchick) they are not "Superheros" or "Knowitall"!

Many People are laughing about them and about you when
you try to build your chain of Arguments about both
or C. Busby and Arnie Gundershill!

@ Waterbug,

People like you need to decide, for example you
believe in the Thyroid Story but you flame the
Statistics of Births, this is very selective!

I am in contact with many Anti-Nuke People
because i am Anti-Nuke and look for the Truth
in F'Shima, there is no Report about something
"strange"!

All this strange News always come from the foreign World!

PS; Change my Com for better English!

Last Edited by the mighty Atom on 07/31/2012 11:45 AM
G.Y.!B.E.
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Eso...

The only safe food right now is that which is grown indoors, where you control the air soil and water...until we know more. There are Aquaponics firms being started in the PNW because of this, and hopefully this willl catch on.

This is also extremely important for cannabis growers to know, as much is grown for medicinal purposes.

Or shop for produce from S. America, which Ive easily found at my local grocers in the midwest. This is of course much much MUCH more important if you have little kids in your household, or are expecting. Fetuses are 1000's of times more suseptible to radiation effects on health.
 Quoting: RadChick


I actually deleted a 'grow indoors' sentence from my post, thinking that would only lead to guffaws and snarky comments.

Thanks for saying it. [i guess i am a bit of a wimp.]

One more thing: after trying to avoid foods from possibly unregulated regions, such as in south america, now we find they are probably the safest bet.

There should be a a global organization, dedicated to supplying food from conscientious farmers in safer regions to the American market.

Thanks, morgan
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Why isn't this pinned?

bump
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@ Esoteric Morgan,

when you are truly concerned about your Food change for the Demeter Label, they do Radiation Checks of their Soil, Fields, Fruits and Vegetables and it is great Food!
G.Y.!B.E.
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Atom boy: The superheros are people who at great risk to their professional affiliations come out and discuss the enormous cover-up that is ongoing...and use their real names...like Caldicott Busby Moret and Gundersen.

Harvard educator. Chernobyl expert. Weapons-industry insider. Former nuke plant exec.

And they are growing in number. Search nuke plant whistleblower.

It is their research we promote, it is their research we help contribute to. They have the credentials and the knowledge. But they are only a few speaking against billion dollar industries. There are 10's of 1000's of people now who are promoting their research as well...and the numbers get bigger by the day.

Tepco has lied about this as well as Canadian and US governments...FACT. Search NRC FOIA FUKUSHIMA.

The way to combat this threat is healthy living and ultimately other more drastic changes.

What do you have against healthy living? And why you attack me and not the info?
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@ Waterbug,

People like you need to decide, for example you
believe in the Thyroid Story but you flame the
Statistics of Births, this is very selective!



All this strange News always come from the foreign World!

 Quoting: the mighty Atom


I wonder why..?

Tell me which statistics I should believe..?
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What do you have against healthy living? And why you attack me and not the info?
 Quoting: RadChick


I have nothing against a "Healthy Living" and i do not attacked you as a Person, i attacked the Way of your Conclusion:
(FUKUSHIMA: Genetic mutations from radiation exposure are up to 100 times higher )!

I know this Anti-Nuclear Movement very well since more than 30 Years
and i think the People you have named are disgusting
and just following their own Agenda,
i go even one step further and say they are Responsible for
our failure to end Nuclear Energy already after the Catastrophe in Chernobyl!
G.Y.!B.E.
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@ Waterbug,

People like you need to decide, for example you
believe in the Thyroid Story but you flame the
Statistics of Births, this is very selective!



All this strange News always come from the foreign World!

 Quoting: the mighty Atom


I wonder why..?

Tell me which statistics I should believe..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Statistics" are always relative,
the best is to believe in confirmed Numbers,
in Reports and Topic related Studies
but never in Gossip and Rumors!

Like this Thyroid Story, did you read the report in this
British scientific Journal/ Scientific Reports
or only at Enenews and Asahi Shimbun?

All Three are showing a different Character,
Enenews saying: all dead, Asahi Shimbun is celebrating
the low Levels of Radiation and the Journal is saying
what i am saying that this Numbers are Okay and we should
wait before we are starting to take Tissue Samples!
G.Y.!B.E.
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Time weighs heavily in favor of the radio-isotopes,

and time is something very transitory for the stupid little bugs of humans who are playing with these materials.
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@ Waterbug,

People like you need to decide, for example you
believe in the Thyroid Story but you flame the
Statistics of Births, this is very selective!



All this strange News always come from the foreign World!

 Quoting: the mighty Atom


I wonder why..?

Tell me which statistics I should believe..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Statistics" are always relative,
the best is to believe in confirmed Numbers,
in Reports and Topic related Studies
but never in Gossip and Rumors!

Like this Thyroid Story, we should
wait before we are starting to take Tissue Samples!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


2001............. 0.8% of control group had cysts

2012............. 36% of fuku children had cysts.

dude..

~

The chairman of Japan thyroid association is Yamashita Shunichi
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

{snip]

According to Dr. Yamashita Shunichi, you won’t be affected by radiation if you are smiling. He tested it with animals.
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Have been watching the changes in plants very closely over the past year since the FUK disaster. We are professional gardeners/plants people.

Here are the trends that we saw (BC Central Coast):

Last spring/summer:

Dandelion flowers were very large and brilliant. Never have dandelions looked so vibrant and beautiful. Fasciation of flowers (especially foxgloves and delphiniums) showed a marginal increase. This happens every year, but an increase in the rate was noticeable. This trend of increase however is not large.

All plants appeared to be unusually heavily fertilized, with lush green growth. This occurred in both native and cultivated plants. Both a greening of the foliage (evergreen and deciduous) and larger, longer-lasting flowers. Flower clusters were also more dense. This was despite a particularly cool, wet spring/summer.

Many vegetable seedling simply did not grow, for no apparent reason. Many others simply bolted prematurely.

Slugs very low in numbers.

Pine trees showed no sign of browning.

This spring/summer.

Dandelions were not as large as last spring, though the individual plants appeared to form clumps of many stemmed flowers.

All plants continue to appear to be receiving extra fertilization. Flower blooms again are large and persistent, though not as dense.

Vegetable seed germinating normally. Growth rampant compared to last years lack of growth. Early bolting still an issue, but on large established plants, not on young seedlings.

Slug population explosion.

Still no browning of pine trees.
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Probably should have brought in the tomato plants :/. [link to fukushimafacts.tumblr.com]
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@ buggy-Chan,

please read the whole Story and look for the Size,
i am tired to talk with you about this Study on and on!
We done this in the last Months already a few Times.

I asked already so many Times for Soil Samples
from the USA or Canada, why are there no positive Reports
about Soil Samples, all i saw do not showed any significant
Contamination in the US and even many of the
Anti-Npp People are saying that there is none,
how do Plants, Animals and/ or Humans get
affected through a Cell Deformation or
Genetic Defects without any Fukushima Isotopes?

It would be so simple to confirm a Genetic Effect
with a Soil-Analysis but this one is always missing!!!

Why?
G.Y.!B.E.
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"The first victims of a serious nuclear accident are and will be children, with an increase in allergies and an aggravation of infectious diseases, which become chronic and involve serious complications."

Dr. Michel Fernex
Emeritus Professor, Basel Faculty of Medicine Exp
Former Consultant, World Health Organization
 Quoting: RadChick


I find this interesting, why an increase in allergies? What is the provocation between radiation exposure and allergic response?

I'm curious because here on the west coast the last three times I went to a pharmacy to buy allergy pills I noticed the the shelves of all the children's allergy medicines were empty. I'd never seen this before and assumed it was a distribution issue being that the pollen count and particulate in my area was not dramatically different than in years past. After reading this i'm wondering if perhaps there is a connection to something more sinister.
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[link to www.fukushima311watchdogs.org]

[snip]

The genetic effects observed in both humans and rodents has led Professor Hillis, at the University of Texas, to conclude in his editorial in the review Nature, 25th April 1996: « We know today that the mutagenic effect of a nuclear accident can be far more serious than we ever suspected, and the eucaryotic genome can present levels of mutation that, up to now, would not have been considered possible. »

At Fukushima, genomic instability needs to be followed up over generations, starting with grandparents and parents, then the children and grand children. After a year, the damage caused by the mixture of internal and external radiation to children should be measured, by comparison with data from before 2011 in the same areas, or by comparing data with communities further away, that were spared the radioactive fallout. Birthweight, incidence of stillbirth, perinatal mortality up to 28 days, birth deformities (heart problems should be investigated later), and among the genetic diseases, Down’s syndrome, should all be studied. Brain damage with tumours, and developmental retardation which, like decreases in IQ, will become evident at school age. The sex ratio should also be examined, given what we know about Chernobyl, where the deficit in female births is manifested in the absence of thousands of girls from populations in countries close to Chernobyl, and even as far away as Germany, where the deficit was measurable.
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When will we see recent birth records from japan..? No mention so far.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I remember that i posted the Statistics from
Fukushima, Ibaraki and Miyagi Prefectures in
my big Fuku-Thread, ca. in 02/12!

Ergo there is a published official Statistic of the
last Year, until now there are no confirmed
Cases about Abnormalities!

The cases of Radchick are more Rumors and
wrong Translations!

As i said it is by far too early for a significant
increase of Genetic Defects!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom

You are truly an idiot, you're attempting to shill a woman who's gained the respect of many of the worlds foremost authorities on nuclear energy and it's affects on the environment and the human race. She does her homework and presents factual, documented and verifiable information for all to disseminate themselves while people like you attempt to cover the truth by discrediting them
 Quoting: siniXster


About who you are talking about,
Radchick or Leuren Meurot or H. Caldicott?





Talk with People who know about both
(not Radchick) they are not "Superheros" or "Knowitall"!

Many People are laughing about them and about you when
you try to build your chain of Arguments about both
or C. Busby and Arnie Gundershill!

@ Waterbug,

People like you need to decide, for example you
believe in the Thyroid Story but you flame the
Statistics of Births, this is very selective!

I am in contact with many Anti-Nuke Peoplebecause i am Anti-Nuke and look for the Truth
in F'Shima, there is no Report about something
"strange"!

All this strange News always come from the foreign World!

PS; Change my Com for better English!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom



I have spoken with Helen Caldicott, she is without question one of the most erudite, honest, well informed authorities who has personally worked on the frontline of the residuals created from radiation exposure in the human body and surrounding environments. She warned of these mutations immediately after the first inkling of the Fukushima disaster, so I have been meticulously observing the natural anomalies occurring in my area on the west coast and they are prevalent and pervasive to say the least.

Visit the botanic garden in Golden Gate Park sometime, the gigantism of a plethora of plant species is off the charts. There are dandelion leaves the size of palm fronds and basketball sized nasturtium leaves, 10ft tall queen annes lace. I have consistently found doubled or mutations on my meyer lemon tree.

What gives, who gets served by all your blather and misinformation? Are tumors affecting your ability to reason? I mean Fukushima is screwing your health simultaneous to your defense of it, slightly inane......
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Even using Tepcos creative math numbers (which are always upgraded to 10x or 100x or 1,000,000x worse every few months) its bad. Wonder what the real numbers are?
It will be decades, if EVER that we know...

[link to enformable.com]
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USGS reported Fukushima contamination found in every sample tested throughout the US. Data is from APRIL 5 2011 and has NEVER BEEN REPEATED/SHARED: [link to pubs.usgs.gov]

"-131 was quantified and adjusted for decay to the time of sample collection for five whole-water wet-deposition samples from California, Colorado, and Washington. The activities of the quantified I-131 ranged from 29.6 to 1,090 pCi/L, and calculated deposition values ranged from 211 to 5,100 Bq/m2."

ONE ISOTOPE!


There are 1000+ that blew out of the reactors.
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AREVA forecasts (a nuke manufacturer in France)that the US west coast will be more contaminated than Japans:

[link to ex-skf.blogspot.com]
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enews?

whatever
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They don't write their articles. Again....you know this.

[link to fukushima-evacuation-e.blogspot.jp]
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rad chick I listen to your show every time is posts to youtube. Love it! keep up the good work!

Feels like no one is paying attention here...

Sacramento CA
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I will only mention this once because it might be wrong.

Think shemale and look at the word FUKUSHIMA.

Now take a casual, lingering look at a map of the four New York Burroughs and see what they resemble together, for example the one in the Yellow Pages if you live in the area.
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In a way,this had to happen.How else will we know how to deal with the 400 other plants?1dunno1
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C'mon Mods, this deserves some air time, give the OP a PIN would ya!!!
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no
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Lots of mutated dandelions here in SLV area of Southern Colorado.
Super thick hollow stalks, odd shaped flowers like the pics you posted, flowers growing out of flowers, two plants growing into one plant, etc.
Many of the flowers instead of being round are oblong.

The jetstreem carries seeds and radiation across the world, notice where the jetstream blows and then where the mutations are.
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shit, bunch of mutations in Massachusetts.
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Not to step on the doom, but you do know earth is constantly being radiated from the cosmos?
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