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Why are India's Power Grids REALLY Failing? Are Solar Flares Responsible for India's Failing Power Grid? - Get Prepared People!

 
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Why are India's Power Grids REALLY Failing? Please share any thoughts and data you might have.

My best theory:
We're seeing the first and horrifying signs of solar flares damaging Earth's power infrastructure as predicted by physicists. We're not being told about the magnitude of the flares, and the the real reason why India's power grid was overwhelmed and shut down. Physicists have predicted this, and if the solar flares start hitting the United States, we'll be no better off than India.

Nether would most of the rest of the world. Be prepared people! Make connections with friends and family, stock up on food... This WILL happen to us as soon as a major flare whacks our side of the planet.

In another thread right here on GLP, a person from India confirms their outages were NOT due to power overdraw. The mainstream media is covering this up as well as our governments!


National Geographic: Solar Flare: What If Biggest Known Sun Storm Hit Today? - [link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

HOW A SOLAR FLARE COULD SEND US BACK TO THE STONE AGE: [link to www.csmonitor.com]

THREAD: Warning: Solar Data Page Completely Censored: Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED!

THREAD: Solar Flare Power Grid Failure Explained - Thread: *** SOLAR FLARE POWER GRID FAILURE EXPLAINED *** Read on and be prepared

THREAD: SOLAR WATCH * 193 M & 13 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)- Thread: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

VIDEO on Solar Activity & Its Worldwide Impact: VIDEO: 2MIN News July 31, 2012- [link to youtu.be]
(Thanks to user 20941036)


THREAD: GLP Poster from India confirms power overdraw was NOT responsible for outages: - Thread: india power outage was due to a CME

LA TIMES 7/31/2012: 600 Million People Affected by Blackouts in India: [link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

CME to hit Earth July 31st - [link to spaceweather.com] (From User 20941036)

NASA Records Near-X-Class Solar Flare July 27: [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
NASA Data from user 7024207: [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
Australia IPS Solar Conditions: [link to www.ips.gov.au]

Front Page of SpaceWeather.com - SUBSIDING MAELSTROM: Sunspot AR1532 - link from User 19713099: [link to spaceweather.com]

Google Search Showing More Widespread Outages than just India: [link to www.google.com]
(Thanks to user 17177008)

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wtf aliens have done this
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hi,power outages in parts of pakistan today too.check out extinction protocol!!! Havent seen any flares reported on here recently....wtfs going on???bumpbump
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Please, please, for the love of everything that is good in the world, get prepared! Everyone.
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Yeppers its true. The sun did this and within only a couple of hours time. Unlike the 16-19 hrs expected.

You see it isnt the size of a flare and its CME as much as the speed. If it hits fast enough the magnetosphere cant hold up.

Solar tards need to get over the X Class flare BS.

Look for yourselves. They got cooked.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Yeppers its true. The sun did this and within only a couple of hours time. Unlike the 16-19 hrs expected.

You see it isnt the size of a flare and its CME as much as the speed. If it hits fast enough the magnetosphere cant hold up.

Solar tards need to get over the X Class flare BS.

Look for yourselves. They got cooked.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Speed, and the amount of plasma floating around in the Solar System, which has been on the increase lately! :) Thx!
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Also look at the solar wind coming to a crawl. This made it a lot worse. There was no resistance. Nothing to have to push through. so the speed could have increased quite a bit on the leading edge. Each event has to be examined with all its elements.

Now we have seen even a very small flare with a fast CME can tip the scales on an already shaky grid.
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If that had come through one of the worm holes NASA has admitted we have with the sun then it wouldnt have tripped all the mains. it would have burnt them to piles of molten metal.

So having to go through a long procedure to get power back up is not a big crisis. They need to replace their junk equipment is all.
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I watch the solar activity every day. You have posted a BS thread.
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If that had come through one of the worm holes NASA has admitted we have with the sun then it wouldnt have tripped all the mains. it would have burnt them to piles of molten metal.

So having to go through a long procedure to get power back up is not a big crisis. They need to replace their junk equipment is all.
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If a small flare can cause a power-down situation, then what happens when we do have piles of molten metal with the big flares?
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Yeppers its true. The sun did this and within only a couple of hours time. Unlike the 16-19 hrs expected.

You see it isnt the size of a flare and its CME as much as the speed. If it hits fast enough the magnetosphere cant hold up.

Solar tards need to get over the X Class flare BS.

Look for yourselves. They got cooked.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Speed, and the amount of plasma floating around in the Solar System, which has been on the increase lately! :) Thx!
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You infer an FTE. There isn't the state here to reflect that due to the time to get here. If it was an FTE on a high speed CME we wouldn't be talking on the internet, we would be digging nuke bunkers before all the power plants melt down in the 10 days after.
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I watch the solar activity every. You have posted a BS thread.
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If so, I apologize. That said, are we even being told the truth about the flares anymore? The data?

I'm not even certain what to think about all the data out there anymore, or whether we have what we need to make informed decisions.

So, BS or not, I'm worried and feel like we're being kept in the dark. And perhaps we don't even know everything about how the physics of these flares impact modern systems yet... even on a small scale.

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If that had come through one of the worm holes NASA has admitted we have with the sun then it wouldnt have tripped all the mains. it would have burnt them to piles of molten metal.

So having to go through a long procedure to get power back up is not a big crisis. They need to replace their junk equipment is all.
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If a small flare can cause a power-down situation, then what happens when we do have piles of molten metal with the big flares?
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Keep in mind their equipment is so old and junky its a miracle they have power on a day to day basis. The junky crap can be affected by not much at all.
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Keep in mind their equipment is so old and junky its a miracle they have power on a day to day basis. The junky crap can be affected by not much at all.
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Good thought... perhaps this wasn't a solar event after all, but then, if it was it shows how vulnerable we are to even the slightest changes.
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I watch the solar activity every. You have posted a BS thread.
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Well then splain lucy.
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If that had come through one of the worm holes NASA has admitted we have with the sun then it wouldnt have tripped all the mains. it would have burnt them to piles of molten metal.

So having to go through a long procedure to get power back up is not a big crisis. They need to replace their junk equipment is all.
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If a small flare can cause a power-down situation, then what happens when we do have piles of molten metal with the big flares?
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Keep in mind their equipment is so old and junky its a miracle they have power on a day to day basis. The junky crap can be affected by not much at all.
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err... not really.. poducing 200,000 megawatts with junky equipment is not possible. the equipments is good and well maintained. some of the biggest power stations are here.
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err... not really.. poducing 200,000 megawatts with junky equipment is not possible. the equipments is good and well maintained. some of the biggest power stations are here.
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Can you confirm that we are being fed misinformation about this situation and India's supposedly bad power grid then? The mainstream media seems to think this is an issue of sub-par equipment and power overdraw.

I know the US grid is pretty old, actually... uh oh.

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If that had come through one of the worm holes NASA has admitted we have with the sun then it wouldnt have tripped all the mains. it would have burnt them to piles of molten metal.

So having to go through a long procedure to get power back up is not a big crisis. They need to replace their junk equipment is all.
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You didnt watch one single video at the top did you?
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Maybe it is because of a cyber-attach test run to see how things would cascade?

It's a thought ...
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err... not really.. poducing 200,000 megawatts with junky equipment is not possible. the equipments is good and well maintained. some of the biggest power stations are here.
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Can you confirm that we are being fed misinformation about this situation and India's supposedly bad power grid then? The mainstream media seems to think this is an issue of sub-par equipment and power overdraw.

I know the US grid is pretty old, actually... uh oh.
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i dont think its misinformation but more like no one understands for sure whats going on so media is trying to find old scapegoats to settle the news.
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i dont think its misinformation but more like no one understands for sure whats going on so media is trying to find old scapegoats to settle the news.
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That makes sense. Keep us informed from your end if you can. This could affect all of us eventually.
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Well any of these tards who claim to know the facts are tards.

1. There is no public magnetoshpere modeling. It was taken away. So not one of the sun tards is doing anything but talking out their ass.

2. Not one sun tard can give any sort of data for the volume of magntic fluff in the solar system. classified.

3. Not one of the GLP sun tards can tell you when a worm hole to the sun opens or closes because we havent launched the sats yet.


You see? shills cant splain shit.

But you can see the remaining data and what it tells.
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OP--with all due respect---you could edit the title of your thread to something like "why are India`s power grids really failing??" Get some brainstorming and research going on..I do like the Get prepared people part of your title tho..we are so vulnerable in this day and age with all our dependence on electronics..One Carrington type event and we would have amess on our hands...There should be a lot of lessons learned from this...people`s reactions, emergency services, water and sewer failures, and human deaths will all start to surface in the next few days..people should pay attention---That old saying "this could never happen to me" is total BS...it could and will happen eventually
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If that had come through one of the worm holes NASA has admitted we have with the sun then it wouldnt have tripped all the mains. it would have burnt them to piles of molten metal.

So having to go through a long procedure to get power back up is not a big crisis. They need to replace their junk equipment is all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8084990


If a small flare can cause a power-down situation, then what happens when we do have piles of molten metal with the big flares?
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Keep in mind their equipment is so old and junky its a miracle they have power on a day to day basis. The junky crap can be affected by not much at all.
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This is true. I've got photos to prove it.
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Well any of these tards who claim to know the facts are tards.

1. There is no public magnetoshpere modeling. It was taken away. So not one of the sun tards is doing anything but talking out their ass.

2. Not one sun tard can give any sort of data for the volume of magntic fluff in the solar system. classified.

3. Not one of the GLP sun tards can tell you when a worm hole to the sun opens or closes because we havent launched the sats yet.


You see? shills cant splain shit.

But you can see the remaining data and what it tells.
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The NICT magnetosphere was only a simulation based on computed data so really it was good for nothing anyhow..it wasn`t a real time picture....There are several proton charts that are more effective....some ground based some in orbit...The real question like stated above is--are we getting real data?? What affect is it having on humans, plants, pipelines, etc...interesting times...all one can do is be prepared
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Please, please, for the love of everything that is good in the world, get prepared! Everyone.
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yeah, well, it takes $$ and I ain't got none. I AM practicing Nearer My God to Thee on the violin however.
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OP--with all due respect---you could edit the title of your thread to something like "why are India`s power grids really failing??" Get some brainstorming and research going on..I do like the Get prepared people part of your title tho..we are so vulnerable in this day and age with all our dependence on electronics..One Carrington type event and we would have amess on our hands...There should be a lot of lessons learned from this...people`s reactions, emergency services, water and sewer failures, and human deaths will all start to surface in the next few days..people should pay attention---That old saying "this could never happen to me" is total BS...it could and will happen eventually
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right up there with "JC Penney fired all of it's cashiers"
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The only real true data we can be sure of is when there is a huge sunspot facing us. Watching the sun through a good telescope and filter is done by 1,000`s of people...old SS 1520 will soon be rotating back into view and it appears it has grown...early next week will be interesting..Keep an eye to the sky
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Highs there are reaching 37°C in New Delhi all week. Pretty hot even for India. Could be heat related too. Combine the stress of hot weather and magnetic solar energy on the grid and you 800 million without power?

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