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Missing FBI Agent Found DEAD Near Home

 
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A bizarre Foreign Ministry report states that this Friday past (11 May) Russian Envoy Vladimir Vinokurov, the Consulate General of San Francisco, was approached near his hotel room during a visit to Los Angles by an agent of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) indentifying himself as Stephen Ivens [photo top left] who warned that he and a former FBI agent named Donald Sachtleben had uncovered evidence of an impending terror attack on US soil
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[link to pragmaticwitness.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


Ivens partner Donald Sachtleben also worked
the investigations of the Oklahoma City Bombing,
the Unibomber and United Flight 93.

He was charged with child pornography
just 2 months ago after Ivens went missing.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

can you say framed ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


Serious? For sure this was his partner? (Obviously it is, just too hard to believe) Because, I don't really buy into part of the story with the guy in the article... "pedodave69@yahoo.com."??? Now he works for the FBI and would use a computer he know they can access AND MOST IMPORTANTLY makes a user name like that? Sorry, I can't see him being that stupid when he was employed where he was employed. A little too obvious, don't you think?

What the hell is coming that this guy knew... that should scare the shit out of anyone. What are they doing?
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bullshit

body would be past smells of
decomp within 30 days of death.

if he still smells, then he didn't die
in May, he died in July !!!

something is not right here !!!
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i've read enough patricia cornwell novels to know that is true...especially in the summer.
You Dont Have A Soul. You Are A Soul. You Have A Body.
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whoever did this to these agents
fvcked it up big time. bumbling idiots
to leave all this evidence.

we already have a Jesuit connection.

the church he was found behind.

Jesuits connected to 9/11 as well.

enjoy the ride
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07/31/2012 05:55 PM
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Serious? For sure this was his partner? (Obviously it is, just too hard to believe) Because, I don't really buy into part of the story with the guy in the article... "pedodave69@yahoo.com."??? Now he works for the FBI and would use a computer he know they can access AND MOST IMPORTANTLY makes a user name like that? Sorry, I can't see him being that stupid when he was employed where he was employed. A little too obvious, don't you think?

What the hell is coming that this guy knew... that should scare the shit out of anyone. What are they doing?
 Quoting: Just_a_Mom


they only found 30 child pron images
on Donalds computer. not much of a
collector, but just enough for a
conviction and ruined credibility.

it was character assassination
by planting evidence.
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Maybe they placed him in cold storage while deciding what to do with his body.

He could have been in a morgue. That would keep his body from decomposing until he was dumped off.
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Autopsy would show if the body had been frozen.
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07/31/2012 05:56 PM
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Autopsy would show if the body had been frozen.
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and they can be faked just like JFK
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07/31/2012 05:59 PM
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Funny thing about threads like this is all the unfounded speculation and outright guesses and fabrication will be what people remember. Even if it turns out to be a simple case of personal human tragedy.
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"That's your objective, to make it so convoluted that anyone can have a theory, but no one's got the facts." -- Edge of Darkness
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Funny thing about threads like this is all the unfounded speculation and outright guesses and fabrication will be what people remember. Even if it turns out to be a simple case of personal human tragedy.
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How much money for post?
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07/31/2012 06:02 PM
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whoever did this to these agents
fvcked it up big time. bumbling idiots
to leave all this evidence.

we already have a Jesuit connection.

the church he was found behind.

Jesuits connected to 9/11 as well.

enjoy the ride
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


The Jesuit connection, most people totally miss it. I believe "their" days are numbered, as are most of the truly evil ones on this rock.
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Funny thing about threads like this is all the unfounded speculation and outright guesses and fabrication will be what people remember. Even if it turns out to be a simple case of personal human tragedy.
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Well yeah, except for the fact that the body conveniently turns up in July. Where the hell has it been since May?
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Funny thing about threads like this is all the unfounded speculation and outright guesses and fabrication will be what people remember. Even if it turns out to be a simple case of personal human tragedy.
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Well yeah, except for the fact that the body conveniently turns up in July. Where the hell has it been since May?
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Make that July, nearly August. Quite some time to be decomposing in the heat, don't yah think?
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Re: Missing FBI Agent Found DEAD Near Home
whoever did this to these agents
fvcked it up big time. bumbling idiots
to leave all this evidence.

we already have a Jesuit connection.

the church he was found behind.

Jesuits connected to 9/11 as well.

enjoy the ride
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


The Jesuit connection, most people totally miss it. I believe "their" days are numbered, as are most of the truly evil ones on this rock.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20979915


found behind St. Frances Xavier Catholic Church
in Burbank CA.

here is info on it's minister

REV. RICHARD ALBARANO, Pastor -- Fr. Dick Albarano was born in Pennsylvania September 6, 1941. He entered the Josephite Seminary in Newburgh, NY and received his degrees in Philosophy and Theology from St. Joseph’s Seminary in Washington, DC. He was ordained a Josephite priest on June 1, 1968. Fr. Dick has been pastor at parishes in Beaumont, TX, New Orleans, LA, Jacksonville, FL, and Washington, DC. While in New Orleans he received a Master of Religious Education Degree from Loyola University in 1987, and while in Washington, DC he received a Master of Arts in Liturgical Studies Degree from Catholic University of America in 1992. In 1992 Fr. Dick came to Los Angeles and became Coordinator of Initiation in the Los Angeles Office For Worship. A year later Cardinal Mahony named him Director of the Office For Worship. He was received by the Cardinal as a priest of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles in 1995. Fr. Dick was named the first Archdiocesan Pastor of our St. Francis Xavier Parish by the Cardinal on July 1, 2000. His hobbies are reading, listening to classical music, and playing with his dog, Suzi Q. He is our spiritual and liturgical leader.
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[link to www.sfxrccburbank.org]
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running out as scared as he was,it was who he thought were his side,voice in my ear yabbering Israel and gas mask for some reason. i listen to him,but don't expect anyone else to.and i'm rubbish at politics so no clue.also."planning the war"

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church of euthanasia.
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have just left my paranormal photos on,as I,m leaving soon.some you have to see whole picture,as clipped.
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07/31/2012 06:10 PM
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Ivens "specialized in national security."
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A bizarre Foreign Ministry report states that this Friday past (11 May) Russian Envoy Vladimir Vinokurov, the Consulate General of San Francisco, was approached near his hotel room during a visit to Los Angles by an agent of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) indentifying himself as Stephen Ivens [photo top left] who warned that he and a former FBI agent named Donald Sachtleben had uncovered evidence of an impending terror attack on US soil
 Quoting: Source


[link to pragmaticwitness.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


Ivens partner Donald Sachtleben also worked
the investigations of the Oklahoma City Bombing,
the Unibomber and United Flight 93.

He was charged with child pornography
just 2 months ago after Ivens went missing.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

can you say framed ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


This aspect of the story needs a thread of its own. Just how many lives did he save by going to the Russians with this story? I for one, would like to find out.
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they claim he used the email "pedodave69". AS IF anyone would use that!
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07/31/2012 06:13 PM

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

HE WAS THE FBI AGENT THAT RAN AWAY SAYING, "THEY'RE CRIMINALS, THEY'RE NOT HELPING ANYONE, MURDEROUS, CRAZY MURDEROUS" TO AN EFFECT


AND NOW HE JUST "SHOWS" UP DEAD AND NO ONE FINDS THAT ODD?

HE WAS MURDERED FOR WHAT HE KNEW!
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Thats a BIG 10-4!!!!!
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So he's found dead very close to his home.

He disappeared May 10, 2012.

Someone smelled the body just last Monday.

Doesn't check out.

Did he shoot himself that close to his home in a residential area and no one heard?

The worst smells of decomposition would have occurred in May.

Did he only die recently, then?
 Quoting: This Is Not Me


If the worst smells of decomposition would have occured in May maybe he was kidnapped, held hostage all this time, killed just recently and then thrown in front of his house to make it look like a suicide or something. Idk but just a thought.
 Quoting: Haelo


Or maybe he was living in the woods like some prepper and the off'd himself after he ran out of rice and dehydrated apples?
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bullshit

body would be past smells of
decomp within 30 days of death.

if he still smells, then he didn't die
in May, he died in July !!!

something is not right here !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


Yup. Is the truth EVER told? NO!!!
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Autopsy would show if the body had been frozen.
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and they can be faked just like JFK
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Tough to hide the crystallization that occurs with freezing.
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Ivens partner Donald Sachtleben also worked
the investigations of the Oklahoma City Bombing,
the Unibomber and United Flight 93.

He was charged with child pornography
just 2 months ago after Ivens went missing.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

can you say framed ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


This aspect of the story needs a thread of its own. Just how many lives did he save by going to the Russians with this story? I for one, would like to find out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3011080


they claim he used the email "pedodave69". AS IF anyone would use that!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539409


They would. It wouldn't be their personal daily email, but for engaging in that type of activity, that is pretty usual.
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So I read the ABC article and then read CBS's story which states skeletal remains were found. It seems as if CBS changes things to suit someone?
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Donald retired from the FBI in 2008
and started his own company

Raptor Consulting LLC

[link to www.columbusacademy.org]

[link to raptorsolutionsllc.com]
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Ivens "specialized in national security."
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NS was a blanket title

Donald was an explosions expert.
see Huntsville AL school in
his bio
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So he's found dead very close to his home.

He disappeared May 10, 2012.

Someone smelled the body just last Monday.

Doesn't check out.

Did he shoot himself that close to his home in a residential area and no one heard?

The worst smells of decomposition would have occurred in May.

Did he only die recently, then?
 Quoting: This Is Not Me


Hello
Smells I thought were only strong in the first week. But then I found a body that was there for a little over two months and boy did he smell. He hung himself in a tree.
Good bless him
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Autopsy would show if the body had been frozen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13255507


and they can be faked just like JFK
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


Tough to hide the crystallization that occurs with freezing.
 Quoting: Quincy 13255507


also tough to hide a big hole in the
back of JFK's head too

but they did it, they hired a pro
to fix it though his name escapes
me at present.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

HE WAS THE FBI AGENT THAT RAN AWAY SAYING, "THEY'RE CRIMINALS, THEY'RE NOT HELPING ANYONE, MURDEROUS, CRAZY MURDEROUS" TO AN EFFECT


AND NOW HE JUST "SHOWS" UP DEAD AND NO ONE FINDS THAT ODD?

HE WAS MURDERED FOR WHAT HE KNEW!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978337


Yep...Thats the guy! Like we are shocked at the outcome, if you go back to an old thread here on GLP about this story you would find a post that fits this verbatim.
"When in doubt, ask"

+ For every credibility gap there is a gullibility fill +
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Interesting fact about this

he was found behind St. Frances Xavier
Catholic Church.

St. Frances was a member of the Jesuit
order.

This was a Jesuit Church !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


Yikes! The Jesuits are evil to their core, and no one notices. When the hell will the world wake up to what is really going on? Never mind, we know he answer to that : (
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There are AT LEAST 2 other Catholic orders that were founded by the same people and are involved in the same types of activities. But because all the attention is on the Jesuits, that's all you people talk about.

Actually, the ENTIRE CATHOLIC CHURCH/VATICAN is *NOT* what you think it is and is controlled by another entity.
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Interesting fact about this

he was found behind St. Frances Xavier
Catholic Church.

St. Frances was a member of the Jesuit
order.

This was a Jesuit Church !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


Yikes! The Jesuits are evil to their core, and no one notices. When the hell will the world wake up to what is really going on? Never mind, we know he answer to that : (
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20979915



There are AT LEAST 2 other Catholic orders that were founded by the same people and are involved in the same types of activities. But because all the attention is on the Jesuits, that's all you people talk about.

Actually, the ENTIRE CATHOLIC CHURCH/VATICAN is *NOT* what you think it is and is controlled by another entity.
 Quoting: AZGal 1486221


Well? What is it? 5a
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bullshit

body would be past smells of
decomp within 30 days of death.

if he still smells, then he didn't die
in May, he died in July !!!

something is not right here !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20978271


Could have been in a freezer.

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