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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19168467 United States 07/31/2012 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | quoting from the eutimes report: [link to www.eutimes.net] " (11 May) Russian Envoy Vladimir Vinokurov, the Consulate General of San Francisco, was approached near his hotel room during a visit to Los Angles by an agent of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) identifying himself as Stephen Ivens [photo top right] who warned that he and a former FBI agent named Donald Sachtleben had uncovered evidence of an impending terror attack on US soil stating that those behind the attack were “all insane. Maybe equals he found out about the Aurora attack getting ready to happen? |
warriorsbond User ID: 18677608 United States 07/31/2012 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BURBANK, Calif. (KABC) -- The body of missing FBI agent Stephen Ivens has been found in a wooded area in Burbank, police confirmed on Tuesday. Quoting: This Is Not Me Authorities say the family has been notified. An official identification of the body will be done by the coroner's office. Ivens, 35, was last seen on May 10 near his home in the 1700 block of Scott Road. [link to abclocal.go.com] 5* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 07/31/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uh.. any one make a possible connection to AURORA CO.? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19168467 quoting from the eutimes report: [link to www.eutimes.net] " (11 May) Russian Envoy Vladimir Vinokurov, the Consulate General of San Francisco, was approached near his hotel room during a visit to Los Angles by an agent of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) identifying himself as Stephen Ivens [photo top right] who warned that he and a former FBI agent named Donald Sachtleben had uncovered evidence of an impending terror attack on US soil stating that those behind the attack were “all insane. Maybe equals he found out about the Aurora attack getting ready to happen? uhhhh, NO !!!! I believe the Russkies lied about what happened with Ivens for an agenda. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 07/31/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uh.. any one make a possible connection to AURORA CO.? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19168467 quoting from the eutimes report: [link to www.eutimes.net] you did see the source of that info was Sorcha Faal didn't you ??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 07/31/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uh.. any one make a possible connection to AURORA CO.? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19168467 quoting from the eutimes report: [link to www.eutimes.net] you did see the source of that info was Sorcha Faal didn't you ??? [link to www.whatdoesitmean.com] |
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Dease User ID: 1505901 United States 07/31/2012 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I guess he didn't want to play their reindeer games. "Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39 "What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20969265 United States 07/31/2012 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how was Donald Sachtleben and Stephen Ivens related. I originally heard they were partners but it may be necessary to start collecting FACTS. I'm not at all saying I agree with this guys assumptions, and he is guilty of making some BUT it doesn't look at all like the two were partners by any means. Are we sure they knew each other? See what you think- [link to jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 07/31/2012 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how was Donald Sachtleben and Stephen Ivens related. I originally heard they were partners but it may be necessary to start collecting FACTS. I'm not at all saying I agree with this guys assumptions, and he is guilty of making some BUT it doesn't look at all like the two were partners by any means. Are we sure they knew each other? Quoting: Just_a_Mom See what you think- [link to jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com] Sorcha Faal has taken a few facts about a couple FBI Agents and turned it into a twisted piece of fiction. But still, I have no clue how an FBI Agent can live in the wilderness for 3 months with a wife and 1 yr old baby at home. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20969265 United States 07/31/2012 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A hell of a lot of people for one depressed guy, really makes no sense. Since May 11, several agencies have supported the search efforts. Los Angeles County Sheriff’s personnel from Altadena, Montrose, Santa Clarita, and Sierra Madre Search and Rescue Teams* assisted in Verdugo Mountain searches, including specially trained reserve sheriff’s deputies and civilian volunteer rescuers, as well as Special Enforcement Bureau-Emergency Services Detail deputy paramedics, bloodhounds, off-road motorcycles, and a helicopter crew. Law enforcement personnel, including air, ground, and canine units with the following law enforcement agencies provided considerable assistance during the search efforts: Burbank Police Department, the Glendale Police Department, the Los Angeles Police Department, the Long Beach Police Department, the Los Angeles City Fire Department, the Los Angeles County Fire Department, the Ventura County Sheriff’s Department, and the Burbank Airport Police Department. Teams made up of approximately 40 FBI agents at a time were paired up with the search and rescue teams during several days of searching. [link to criminal-justice-online-courses.blogspot.com] They find dead bodies that don't get this kind of attention. It would be interesting to know how many showed up when they found HIS body. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 07/31/2012 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're right, it doesn't so how bout a new approach ??? Donald was arrested for child porn what if Ivens was involved with Donald on the porn issue only ??? and maybe Donald tipped Ivens off and Ivens ran to avoid capture. would explain the manhunt in the woods if they were gonna arrest him like Donald. lots of pedos commit suicide to avoid scrutiny and charges and the shit slung at their families in the press ??? so maybe Ivens suicided himself to avoid the pedo charges but hid in the woods for a while first. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 07/31/2012 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're right, it doesn't so how bout a new approach ??? Donald was arrested for child porn what if Ivens was involved with Donald on the porn issue only ??? and maybe Donald tipped Ivens off and Ivens ran to avoid capture. would explain the manhunt in the woods if they were gonna arrest him like Donald. lots of pedos commit suicide to avoid scrutiny and charges and the shit slung at their families in the press ??? so maybe Ivens suicided himself to avoid the pedo charges but hid in the woods for a while first. the original article did mention that Donald sent porn by e-mail but it did NOT say WHO he sent it to. It could have been Ivens !!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21024968 United States 07/31/2012 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VERY strange Facebook page set up by his wife. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20969265 United States 07/31/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're right, it doesn't so how bout a new approach ??? Donald was arrested for child porn what if Ivens was involved with Donald on the porn issue only ??? and maybe Donald tipped Ivens off and Ivens ran to avoid capture. would explain the manhunt in the woods if they were gonna arrest him like Donald. lots of pedos commit suicide to avoid scrutiny and charges and the shit slung at their families in the press ??? so maybe Ivens suicided himself to avoid the pedo charges but hid in the woods for a while first. Sounds plausible actually. Thing is, I can't find any real known link between the two guys. See the link I posted. They didn't even work for the FBI at the same times. Does anyone have any proof the two were tied together except for a Sorcha Fail article? Here's a link about the two guys employment period with the FBI- [link to jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20969265 United States 07/31/2012 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're right, it doesn't so how bout a new approach ??? Donald was arrested for child porn what if Ivens was involved with Donald on the porn issue only ??? and maybe Donald tipped Ivens off and Ivens ran to avoid capture. would explain the manhunt in the woods if they were gonna arrest him like Donald. lots of pedos commit suicide to avoid scrutiny and charges and the shit slung at their families in the press ??? so maybe Ivens suicided himself to avoid the pedo charges but hid in the woods for a while first. the original article did mention that Donald sent porn by e-mail but it did NOT say WHO he sent it to. It could have been Ivens !!! Actually the guy they said he sent the porn to was arrested supposedly. He was from Illinois I believe it said... the one arrested. We all have to agree on the fact of having so few photos of children on his computer and using the name pedodave is pretty out there for a story. I'm having a hard time buying that one. The man worked for the FBI and would create a user name like that? C'mon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3011080 United States 07/31/2012 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how was Donald Sachtleben and Stephen Ivens related. I originally heard they were partners but it may be necessary to start collecting FACTS. I'm not at all saying I agree with this guys assumptions, and he is guilty of making some BUT it doesn't look at all like the two were partners by any means. Are we sure they knew each other? Quoting: Just_a_Mom See what you think- [link to jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com] Nope. Not sure. Do need to fact check that for sure because it is damn distracting otherwise. And if they were indeed partners, then that's where the rest, or at least the next piece of the story will be uncovered. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3011080 United States 07/31/2012 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're right, it doesn't so how bout a new approach ??? Donald was arrested for child porn what if Ivens was involved with Donald on the porn issue only ??? and maybe Donald tipped Ivens off and Ivens ran to avoid capture. would explain the manhunt in the woods if they were gonna arrest him like Donald. lots of pedos commit suicide to avoid scrutiny and charges and the shit slung at their families in the press ??? so maybe Ivens suicided himself to avoid the pedo charges but hid in the woods for a while first. Hmmm... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 07/31/2012 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually the guy they said he sent the porn to was arrested supposedly. He was from Illinois I believe it said... the one arrested. We all have to agree on the fact of having so few photos of children on his computer and using the name pedodave is pretty out there for a story. I'm having a hard time buying that one. The man worked for the FBI and would create a user name like that? C'mon. Quoting: Just_a_Mom you do realize that agents do assume mail identities according to whom they might be after? like an undercover sting to catch pedos may have an e-mail of teenage-brat or lolita-13 or something similar to establish them as underage girls. so pedodave is not that far fetched if viewed in context of trying to catch online pedos. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20969265 United States 07/31/2012 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True. Thing is it was turned around on him, rightfully or wrongly and used against him. Gut instinct, I think he didn't do what he's accused of but who knows. He, Donald Sachtleben, worked for the FBI from 1983-2008. Stephen Ivans started working for the FBI in 2009. I'm wondering how these two knew of each other? Do we have anything except for a Sorcha Fail article stating Stephen went to the Russian embassy and stated he was in connection with Donald Sachtleben. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 07/31/2012 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was really hoping this agent would be ok when he took off into the woods...very sad ending to such a young man. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17689295 WHY he took off into the woods is the part the FBI is keeping secret. If there is nobody alive to prosecute, then there is no need to bring this up against his family in the press. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 07/31/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm wondering how these two knew of each other? Do we have anything except for a Sorcha Fail article stating Stephen went to the Russian embassy and stated he was in connection with Donald Sachtleben. Quoting: Just_a_Mom Nope, nothing other than a Sorcha Faal hoax. there is a coincidence though, the FBI did start looking for Donald and Ivens around the same time period in May. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20969265 United States 07/31/2012 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and we know Stephen was living in California. I'm missing any link here. I do believe for sure something was not on the up and up concerning Stephen and the story told, but I think to get to the truth, we need to separate the fiction. I'm not seeing any link between these two. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 08/01/2012 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do believe for sure something was not on the up and up concerning Stephen and the story told, but I think to get to the truth, we need to separate the fiction. I'm not seeing any link between these two. Quoting: Just_a_Mom and they don't want you to see any link. probably the entire reason why the Sorcha Faal hoax started in the first place to draw the media hounds off the trail. disinfo from Faal |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20969265 United States 08/01/2012 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do believe for sure something was not on the up and up concerning Stephen and the story told, but I think to get to the truth, we need to separate the fiction. I'm not seeing any link between these two. Quoting: Just_a_Mom and they don't want you to see any link. probably the entire reason why the Sorcha Faal hoax started in the first place to draw the media hounds off the trail. disinfo from Faal Hmmm, stranger and stranger. Something certainly is awry, we know it was enough to kill a man for. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20978271 United States 08/01/2012 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm, stranger and stranger. Something certainly is awry, we know it was enough to kill a man for. Quoting: Just_a_Mom question remains: WHO did the killing ??? if a current FBI Agent with a young family knows he is about to be sent to prison for 20 yrs and probably lose custody of his child, is this not enough incentive for him to commit suicide ??? would he spend 3 months in the woods trying to think of a way out of this ??? and then finally make a decision to finish the job, right where they held a vigil for him ??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17687622 United States 08/01/2012 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he has been working for the FBI for the past three years in the national security area [link to news.yahoo.com] from: Thread: Massive search for rogue FBI Agent going on NOW (Page 2) |