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jacksprat

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07/31/2012 09:23 PM
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stop living in fear,

Love yourself

be free

freedom to express yourself as long as you don't hurt others

blessings
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Chrit

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07/31/2012 09:25 PM

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There is no canceling your FB account, they still will hold it against you forever.

Use it to put out what you want them to see OP.


the fact thats all they had on you and tried to use it should be laughable.




Fixed a spell check type-O

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Shellbe (OP)

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07/31/2012 09:29 PM

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keep it real on facebook and they cant hold shit against you

put pretentious made up crap....its gonna bite you

not really facebooks fault you posted crap on it is it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21016308


Well I stick by what I stated, and even the judge told the ADA that anyone working for the justice system should be fighting against fascism and oppression, so he did not see how it was significant. My point is, it should not have been available to them under my privacy settings.
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You are a defence lawyer and you are surprised by them being able to see your posts?

Seriously, some people really do shock me.
 Quoting: vexed 21002352


Well up until now, the only things I've seen them be able to access, are things that are public. If I really wanted to push the issue, I could sue them to find out how they accessed private info. But that would not help my client any. This was also the info I provided when I first set up the account. They were asking stupid questions, which I tried to provide an answer, although at times was not easy.
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Also, I would openly admit that it is my goal to fight Fascism and oppression. If someone has a problem with that, fuck em. I would not post something that I did not want anyone to see. I was just surpised that they were able to access it. My point in posting is that people should know the government got this information that was supposed to be private.
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I have about 20 FB accts -- none of them are real.

FB is nothing but govt tracking system, has been for years.


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KGB.
Shellbe (OP)

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There is not canceling your FB account, they still will hold it against you forever.

Use it to put out what you want them to see OP.


the fact thats all they had on you and tried to use it should be laughable.
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Thats sooo funny. Thats what I said to my husband when I got home. Figured I did good considering thats all they found.5a
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07/31/2012 09:32 PM
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Yeah? Well fuck them.

They can know what they know about me.

This government needs a massive wake up call.

They're about to get it.

This country is on the brink of civil war.
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07/31/2012 09:33 PM
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I have about 20 FB accts -- none of them are real.

FB is nothing but govt tracking system, has been for years.


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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


Dam! How many alter egos do you need? One is not enough?
Anonymous Coward
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07/31/2012 09:33 PM
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Deleted it? I did the same and it says something like " you can sign back in and re activate your account at anytime" well, if it was REALLY deleted then how would they do that? hmmm.
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When you delete your account you will get a message that you have about 7 days until your data is gone forever, When you cancel you can reopen your account at a later date.

There is a difference.

Still doesn't matter. The NSA has your data.
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07/31/2012 09:36 PM

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Well I stick by what I stated, and even the judge told the ADA that anyone working for the justice system should be fighting against fascism and oppression, so he did not see how it was significant. My point is, it should not have been available to them under my privacy settings.
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You are a defence lawyer and you are surprised by them being able to see your posts?

Seriously, some people really do shock me.
 Quoting: vexed 21002352


Well up until now, the only things I've seen them be able to access, are things that are public. If I really wanted to push the issue, I could sue them to find out how they accessed private info. But that would not help my client any. This was also the info I provided when I first set up the account. They were asking stupid questions, which I tried to provide an answer, although at times was not easy.
 Quoting: Shellbe


Suing them will get you no where. They collected the data illegally and will not admit that they have it. Prove that they have it.

LOL

You can't!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20812641


well actually, they gave me a copy of it in open court and questioned me about it in front of the judge. Think I could prove it. But it would not help my client, which is why I was there in the 1st place. The jusge sided with me after the fact though.
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07/31/2012 09:37 PM
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I have seen the threads on here about how fucked up Facebook is, and how it is used to gather your info. Although I do not post there, I did keep my Facebook account due to the fact that I have 5 younger brothers and sisters who all have kids. I live out of state and use Facebook to get updates on them and pictures. Other than the occasional comment concerning how cute my nephews are, I dont post. I also have my privacy settings set so that only my friends can see my info, and only accept friends who I know and trust. Well, as some people on here know I am a criminal defense attorney. I had to testify as a witness today regarding a trial that I did in 2008. Well, long story short, despite the fact that my settings are on private, the District Attorney's Office gave me a copy of my Facebook page. There were no posts that were a problem, as I donít post. However, when you set up your account it asks you to fill in different categories, ie: interests, music, hobbies. Under the "about me" section, I wrote, criminal lawyer fighting against fascism and oppression. Well, the Government had this info, and tried to use it to suggest I was somehow against the Government. Really fucked up. Donít know how they accessed this info. Needless to say, I just canceled my Facebook account. I suggest u all do the same.
 Quoting: Shellbe


There is no way you can fight fascism and oppression as a member of the BAR.

NO FUCKING WAY.
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07/31/2012 09:38 PM
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Well, I guess if you are fighting fascism and oppression then you are fighting the government ... or at least you are fighting the Obama administration.

Change it to say you are fighting to allow illegal immigrants into our country and the government will leave you alone.
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07/31/2012 09:39 PM
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the gov't doesnt need your shitty facebook account to gather all the information they would need on you... so naive
post freely
better your profile has some accuracy so you stand a chance of garnering an invitation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20390497


Exactly! And if you have no intention of breaking the law or being perverted, enjoy the Internet, have fun and post away on Facebook.
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07/31/2012 09:40 PM
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if they want your info theyll get it, they had AOL,and now facebook and myspace.if they want you bad enough they can get whatever they want,they have keys to all public encryption services,they can monitor all communications if they want, and if that doesnt work theyll just make it up. just live your life, if your not on their radar you have nothing to worry about.
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Another thing I noticed is I get friend suggestions from Facebook for clients who i have no other connection to. At first I thought maybe they viewed my profile and thus, they become a suggested friend. But then I had a female client show up, who had been in jail for 18 months. No way she viewed my profile. So the question is, how did Facebook figure out my connection?
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i have always wondered how they did that too. but most of mine are friends with people im friends with. i had like 800 friends on saturday. and i deleted a lot of people and im down to 200. i noticed that when i added someone, i think they'd change their name or something because someone would update their status and i'd have no clue who they were, so i'd delete them off my friends list. but its been happening a lot often. some people that i know i deleted im still friends with supposedly. pisses me off. im about to deactivate my profile. i just need to get my pictures of there first.
Shellbe (OP)

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07/31/2012 09:42 PM

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I have seen the threads on here about how fucked up Facebook is, and how it is used to gather your info. Although I do not post there, I did keep my Facebook account due to the fact that I have 5 younger brothers and sisters who all have kids. I live out of state and use Facebook to get updates on them and pictures. Other than the occasional comment concerning how cute my nephews are, I dont post. I also have my privacy settings set so that only my friends can see my info, and only accept friends who I know and trust. Well, as some people on here know I am a criminal defense attorney. I had to testify as a witness today regarding a trial that I did in 2008. Well, long story short, despite the fact that my settings are on private, the District Attorney's Office gave me a copy of my Facebook page. There were no posts that were a problem, as I donít post. However, when you set up your account it asks you to fill in different categories, ie: interests, music, hobbies. Under the "about me" section, I wrote, criminal lawyer fighting against fascism and oppression. Well, the Government had this info, and tried to use it to suggest I was somehow against the Government. Really fucked up. Donít know how they accessed this info. Needless to say, I just canceled my Facebook account. I suggest u all do the same.
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There is no way you can fight fascism and oppression as a member of the BAR.

NO FUCKING WAY.
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Well actually you can, and we do every day. My boss (a lawyer of 37 years) just day 35 days in jail for contempt of court. He refused to allow the court to railroad our client.
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if they want your info theyll get it, they had AOL,and now facebook and myspace.if they want you bad enough they can get whatever they want,they have keys to all public encryption services,they can monitor all communications if they want, and if that doesnt work theyll just make it up. just live your life, if your not on their radar you have nothing to worry about.
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Believe me, I know. I've fought cases involving everything from monitoring your locations for a day using your cell phone to listening to your phone calls. Also heard something lately about them getting warrants to actually listen in on your phoneís microphone, even when you are not making a call. I am careful to say the least.
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I have about 20 FB accts -- none of them are real.

FB is nothing but govt tracking system, has been for years.


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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


Borat is a smart manly man yes!
Do not make FB with all your info and name, just use FB to stalk and peep on people for sexy time.

If one wish to contact familiar family it is best to write letter or makey phone call or... *Gasp*... actually visit them eh?

Most FB conversations are lame and pointless anyway.
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07/31/2012 09:48 PM
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In fact, for all I know, everyone posting on here is a CIA agent but me, lol.

All the posts do seem to have the same kind of writting....maybe it's the same guy talking to himself.
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Or the same group of people with several different accounts posting all these different topics for people to fight over.
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I have seen the threads on here about how fucked up Facebook is, and how it is used to gather your info. Although I do not post there, I did keep my Facebook account due to the fact that I have 5 younger brothers and sisters who all have kids. I live out of state and use Facebook to get updates on them and pictures. Other than the occasional comment concerning how cute my nephews are, I dont post. I also have my privacy settings set so that only my friends can see my info, and only accept friends who I know and trust. Well, as some people on here know I am a criminal defense attorney. I had to testify as a witness today regarding a trial that I did in 2008. Well, long story short, despite the fact that my settings are on private, the District Attorney's Office gave me a copy of my Facebook page. There were no posts that were a problem, as I donít post. However, when you set up your account it asks you to fill in different categories, ie: interests, music, hobbies. Under the "about me" section, I wrote, criminal lawyer fighting against fascism and oppression. Well, the Government had this info, and tried to use it to suggest I was somehow against the Government. Really fucked up. Donít know how they accessed this info. Needless to say, I just canceled my Facebook account. I suggest u all do the same.
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I agree...been saying this from the moment it came out. Good post!
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07/31/2012 09:50 PM
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I still use mine, sort of to be the "black sheep" of my friends. Dropping truth bombs and making them write me off as crazy because they don't understand me is a blast. Waiting for my account to get banned, or for the feds to come kick in my door for letting the average sheep see what a conspiracy theorist can dig up by doing research.
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Same here TRUTH 5a5a
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security settings, hahaha.yea ok.
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07/31/2012 09:52 PM

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Also heard something lately about them getting warrants to actually listen in on your phoneís microphone, even when you are not making a call. I am careful to say the least.
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Now that's some bullshit. I would totally get rid of my cellphone if I didn't move 800 miles away from my mom. If they want to listen to mine they will nothing but silence since i stay on the internet most of the time. this is starting to get to me. i guess we should start reading the terms and services clause of crap:'(
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I have seen the threads on here about how fucked up Facebook is, and how it is used to gather your info. Although I do not post there, I did keep my Facebook account due to the fact that I have 5 younger brothers and sisters who all have kids. I live out of state and use Facebook to get updates on them and pictures. Other than the occasional comment concerning how cute my nephews are, I dont post. I also have my privacy settings set so that only my friends can see my info, and only accept friends who I know and trust. Well, as some people on here know I am a criminal defense attorney. I had to testify as a witness today regarding a trial that I did in 2008. Well, long story short, despite the fact that my settings are on private, the District Attorney's Office gave me a copy of my Facebook page. There were no posts that were a problem, as I donít post. However, when you set up your account it asks you to fill in different categories, ie: interests, music, hobbies. Under the "about me" section, I wrote, criminal lawyer fighting against fascism and oppression. Well, the Government had this info, and tried to use it to suggest I was somehow against the Government. Really fucked up. Donít know how they accessed this info. Needless to say, I just canceled my Facebook account. I suggest u all do the same.
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You can't cancel it. Only make it in-active. Sorry friend, you are caught in that web forever.
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Also heard something lately about them getting warrants to actually listen in on your phoneís microphone, even when you are not making a call. I am careful to say the least.
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Now that's some bullshit. I would totally get rid of my cellphone if I didn't move 800 miles away from my mom. If they want to listen to mine they will nothing but silence since i stay on the internet most of the time. this is starting to get to me. i guess we should start reading the terms and services clause of crap:'(
 Quoting: amrlove16


This last issue with the microphones, they did need to get a warrant to do it. However, when they used the cell phone to track a person's movements, they claimed that under the Patriot Act and the "trap and trace" statute (meaning a provision that allows them to look at your incoming and outgoing calls on a standard of less than probable cause) they do not need a warrant.
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I just checked to see where i've accessed my account lately. And someone from california, north carolina, maryland.

wtf? i've never been to any of those places in the last 2 months. so yes theyve been on my site. that really upsets me.

its bullshit.
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I have seen the threads on here about how fucked up Facebook is, and how it is used to gather your info. Although I do not post there, I did keep my Facebook account due to the fact that I have 5 younger brothers and sisters who all have kids. I live out of state and use Facebook to get updates on them and pictures. Other than the occasional comment concerning how cute my nephews are, I dont post. I also have my privacy settings set so that only my friends can see my info, and only accept friends who I know and trust. Well, as some people on here know I am a criminal defense attorney. I had to testify as a witness today regarding a trial that I did in 2008. Well, long story short, despite the fact that my settings are on private, the District Attorney's Office gave me a copy of my Facebook page. There were no posts that were a problem, as I donít post. However, when you set up your account it asks you to fill in different categories, ie: interests, music, hobbies. Under the "about me" section, I wrote, criminal lawyer fighting against fascism and oppression. Well, the Government had this info, and tried to use it to suggest I was somehow against the Government. Really fucked up. Donít know how they accessed this info. Needless to say, I just canceled my Facebook account. I suggest u all do the same.
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You can't cancel it. Only make it in-active. Sorry friend, you are caught in that web forever.
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that sucks
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I wish I could tell you the truth behind this. But.....can't. Sorry.
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I wish I could tell you the truth behind this. But.....can't. Sorry.
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do tell!
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This last issue with the microphones, they did need to get a warrant to do it. However, when they used the cell phone to track a person's movements, they claimed that under the Patriot Act and the "trap and trace" statute (meaning a provision that allows them to look at your incoming and outgoing calls on a standard of less than probable cause) they do not need a warrant.
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That's so messed up. I turn my location off on my cellphone. But im sure they can still find out where I am. thanks for that i didn't know any of that.
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I wish I could tell you the truth behind this. But.....can't. Sorry.
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yeah seriously do tell. so that i can get my family off facebook too.

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