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Should Christians be Masons?

 
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Tell the rest of these people in the thread how you have to worship the head of the lodge. You call him your Worshipful Master. Christians believe in ONE that is worthy of worship, you do not. It's pretty clear cut.

You might be "enlightened" now, but in the hereafter it's going to be pretty dark for you bud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19202196


Exactly, there is only ONE worthy to be worshiped. Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: @ng3l


WRONG.

Jesus Christ did not want to be worshipped, for he is the SON of God, not God himself.

God is to be worshipped, Jesus Christ is simply A path to the singularity.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


WRONG.
For there are three that bear record in Heaven, The Father, The Word (Jesus), and The Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
 Quoting: @ng3l


WRONG

Luke 4:8 NASB

Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'"

The verse you just gave was added into the king & new james bible. All the rest of the translations have it right. They say there are three that testify, spirit, water, and blood. No mention of the Trinity. What's so hard for people to understand. Scriptures say when you have a wife the two will become one. My wife and I are of one mind and goal but two distinct and separate people. Christ was the same with God. He knew the father was greater than him.
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Tell the rest of these people in the thread how you have to worship the head of the lodge. You call him your Worshipful Master. Christians believe in ONE that is worthy of worship, you do not. It's pretty clear cut.

You might be "enlightened" now, but in the hereafter it's going to be pretty dark for you bud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19202196


Exactly, there is only ONE worthy to be worshiped. Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: @ng3l


WRONG.

Jesus Christ did not want to be worshipped, for he is the SON of God, not God himself.

God is to be worshipped, Jesus Christ is simply A path to the singularity.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


WRONG.
For there are three that bear record in Heaven, The Father, The Word (Jesus), and The Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
 Quoting: @ng3l


WRONG

Luke 4:8 NASB

Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'"

The verse you just gave was added into the king & new james bible. All the rest of the translations have it right. They say there are three that testify, spirit, water, and blood. No mention of the Trinity. What's so hard for people to understand. Scriptures say when you have a wife the two will become one. My wife and I are of one mind and goal but two distinct and separate people. Christ was the same with God. He knew the father was greater than him.
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Right, they knew so much about science yet terribly stylized all of their artwork instead of making SCIENTIFICALLY REALISTIC blue-prints. They knew so much about science but knew nothing of perspective, right? Nothing about rendering a 3d object on a 2d plane? No chairoscuro, even?

RIGHT.

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Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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That's Baphomet?!?

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That's Baphomet?!?

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lmao
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ROFLMMFAO!
now thats some funny shit!
as if being a mason led their son to suicide, and renouncing masonary brought him back.
although praying to Christ is the right way to go.
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Hello all, I am new here and this is my first thread. Okay this is for all to answer. First off I can say that the Bible verses provided are from the KJV Bible, there is no arguing that. Just grab one and you will see. Second, the masonic quotes can be challenged due to the fact that you can show a mason these quotes from their own books & teaching's and many will still deny them due to their oaths. So let's "assume" they are accurate for arguments sake (unless any real mason's here want to confirm, which I doubt) so my question is, "assuming" masonic quotes are accurate, should a Christian be a mason? Me being a Christian you can probably guess my answer. NO! What do you guy's think?

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Mason Doctrine non bold / Christian Doctrine in Bold

Should A Christian Become A Mason?
Masonic Doctrine -v- Christian Doctrine
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What is a Mason? What do they do? These are just a couple of questions you may ask. Most people know them to be a fraternal order of men that is usually involved in good civic activities, such as the Shriner's collecting money for the children's hospital. However, very little is known to the non-Mason, about what the Masons believe or what they do behind closed doors. Most Masons have never read some of the sources cited in the following. All of these Masonic sourcebooks are in the libraries of most local Lodges and the libraries of the Grand Lodges of the states. Let me further state that there are a lot of well meaning men and Christian men who are members of the Masonic lodges in small town America, and many never advance beyond the Blue Degrees. Remaining at this level, they are kept in the dark about a lot of what goes on as one obtains "more light," as they call it. If much of what is about to be disclosed, was known to a lot of these men and Christian men, they would not be a part of such an organization.

I urge those that really want to know the truth to check out these materials cited below, also before going any further, ask God to confirm in your own heart the truth as you read it.

JESUS CHRIST
In his private petitions a man may petition God or Jehovah, Allah or Buddha, Mohammed or Jesus; he may call upon the God of Israel or the First Great Cause. In the Masonic Lodge he hears petition to the Great Architect of the Universe, finding his own deity under that name. A hundred paths may wind upward around a mountain; at the top they meet." (Carl H. Claudy, "Introduction to Freemasonry." p. 38)

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the Life: no man cometh to the Father, but by me. (Jn.14:6) Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name {but Jesus} under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (Acts 4:12)

GOD
Since every man's conception of God must be proportioned to his mental cultivation, and intellectual powers, and moral excellence. God is, as man conceives Him, the reflected image of man himself. (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," 14th Degree, p. 234) "The only personal God Freemasonry accepts is humanity in toto...Humanity therefore is the only personal God that there is." (J.D. Buck, "Mystic Masonry," p. 216) "The Absolute is Reason. Reason IS, by means of itself. It IS because IT IS...If God IS, HE IS by Reason." (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," 28th Degree. p. 737)

In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (Gen. 1:1) For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word {Jesus}, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (I Jn. 5:7) God said undo Moses, I AM THAT I AM... (Ex. 3:14)

THE HOLY BIBLE
"...the literal meaning (of the Bible) is for the vulgar only." (Albert Pike, "Digest of Morals and Dogma," p. 166) "Masonry makes no profession of Christianity...but looks forward to the time when the labor of our ancient brethren shall be symbolized by the erection of a spiritual temple...in which there shall be but one alter and one worship; one common altar of Masonry on which the Veda, Shastra, Sade, Zend-Avesta, Koran and Holy Bible shall lie...and at whose shrine the Hindoo, the Persian, the Assyrian, the Chaldean, the Egyptian, the Chinese, the Mohammedan, the Jew and the Christian may kneel..." ("The Kentucky Monitor." Fellowcraft Degree, p. 95) The removal of the name of Jesus and references to Him in Bible verses used in the ritual are "slight but necessary modifications." (Albert Mackey, "Masonic Ritualist." p. 272)

The Words of the Lord are pure words, as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. (Psa. 12:6) All Scripture is given by inspiration of God... (II Tim. 3:16) ...if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them. (Isa. 8:20)

REDEMPTION
"These three degrees (1st, 2nd, 3rd) thus form a perfect an harmonious whole, nor can it be conceived that anything can be suggested more, which the soul of man requires." (Daniel Sickles, "Ahimon Rezon or Freemason's Guide." p. 196) "If we with suitable true devotion maintain our Masonic profession, our faith will become a beam of light an bring us to those blessed mansions where we shall be eternally happy with God, the Great Architect of the Universe." (Daniel Sickles, "Ahimon Rezon or Freemason's Guide." p. 79) "...salvation by faith and the vicarious atonement were not taught as now interpreted, by Jesus, nor are these doctrines taught in the esoteric scriptures. They are later and ignorant perversions of the original doctrines." (J.D. Buck, "Mystic Masonry." p. 57)

As it is written. There is none righteous no not one: (Rom. 3:10) For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. (Rom. 3:23) For He hath made Him {Jesus} to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him. (II Cor. 5:21) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Eph. 2:8-9)

SATAN
"The conviction of all men that God is good led to a belief in a devil..." (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma." 19th Degree, p. 324) "...there is no rebellious demon of Evil, or Principle of Darkness coexistent and in eternal controversy with God, or the Principle of Light..." (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," 32nd Degree, p.859)

Ye are of your father, the devil...he is a liar, and the father of it. (Jn. 8:44) Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. (Jas. 4:7) Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph. 6:11-12) ...your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour. (I Pet. 5:8)

TRUTHFULNESS
The Mason Doctrine teaches that it right to lie, if necessary to protect the secrets of the Lodge, or to protect brother Masons by concealing his wrongdoing. It can even be right to deliberately deceive sincere Masons seeking to learn the lessons and secrets of Masonry.

"The Blue Degrees are but the portico (porch) of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine that he understands them...their true ecplication (explanation / understanding) is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry." (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," 30th Degree, p. 189) "You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him...It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations." (Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry." p. 183) "Furthermore do I promise and swear that a Master Mason's secrets, given to me in charge as such, and I knowing them to be such, shall remain as secure and inviolable in my breast as in his own, when communicated to me, murder and treason excepted; and they left to my own election." (Master Mason's / 3rd Degree Oath of Obligation)

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. (Ex. 20:16) Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another. (Lev. 19:11) ...lie not to one another. (Col. 3:9) ...all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. (Rev 21:8)

SECRECY & BLOOD OATHS
Secrecy is indispensable in a Mason of whatever degree." (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," 4th Degree, p. 109) I...do hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear that I will always hail, ever conceal and never reveal any of the arts, parts or points of the secret arts any mysteries of ancient Freemasonry which I have received, am about to receive, or may hereafter be instructed in..." (Oath of Obligation, Entered Apprentice/1st Degree, and include in all subsequent degrees, always on penalty of mayhem and violent death) "...binding myself under no less a penalty that that of having my body severed in twain, my bowels taken out and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered to the four winds of heaven..." (from the Oath of Obligation, Master Mason/Third Degree) "...In willful violation whereof may I incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs pierced to the center with a three-edged blade, my feet flayed and I be forced to walk the hot sands upon sterile shores of the Red Sea until the flaming Sun shall strike me with a livid plague, and may Allah, the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan, the god of our fathers, support me to the entire fulfillment of the same." (from the Oath of Obligation, Ancient Arabic Order of Nobles of the Mystic Shrine ["Shriners"])

I {Jesus} spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple...and in secret have I said nothing. (Jn. 18:20) Provide things honest in the sight of all men. (Rom. 12:17) Thou shalt not kill (murder). (Ex. 20:13) But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation. (Jas. 5:12)

Seek the Truth through the Word of God!
"...ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (Jn. 8:32)
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 Quoting: @ng3l


A life long friend's husband before they married was a Mason and a satanist. She said he had an alter and black candles. Guess he has grown out of it now.
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George Washington was a Mason. I'm sure you know about the statue of Washington that resembles Baphomet.

So my question is this: Is the statue of Baphomet related to the occult? Or not?

I can get what you're saying about Lucifer being the Light Bearer. But he rebelled against God (notice the capitalization of the proper noun, which also denotes some degree of respect) and was cast out of Heaven, then became Satan.

If it's (essentially) okay as a Mason to revere Satan, then how can anyone say they also, as a professing Christian, revere God/Jesus? Or are Satan and God actually on good terms with each other and is everything we've been told about them a lie?

Also, what about the Bible's stance on taking oaths?
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"notice the captilization which denotes some degree of respect"

yet in the same paragraph you capitilize "Satan"
yet in the next paragraph, you state, how can one revere Satan and yet still call themselves Christian?
yet you contradict yourself:
you capitilized the name "Satan", showing "some degree of respect, yet you say to revere Satan you cant call yourself Christian.
so by you logic, you yourself cannot be called Christian because you revere him (show a degree of respect) by capitolizing his name.
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Hey, OP. Yes you can be a Christian, and a Freemason. Freemasonry is a fraternity, not a religion. I have sat in the lodge with Christians, Jewish people, and Muslims. We are a brotherhood which unites men of all faiths in a bond of brotherhood for the purpose of doing good in the world, there is no sin in that.

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Hey, OP. Yes you can be a Christian, and a Freemason. Freemasonry is a fraternity, not a religion. I have sat in the lodge with Christians, Jewish people, and Muslims. We are a brotherhood which unites men of all faiths in a bond of brotherhood for the purpose of doing good in the world, there is no sin in that.
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This ^^


Thank you to the AC that supported my views.

Just trying to shed light on a touchy subject.

And as far as artwork being "below average in intellect," messages had to be hidden in plain sight back in the day for fear of persecution by the church.

EVERYTHING that contradicted the church was considered blasphemous, hence the secrecy and/or hidden messages.


And no, we will not divulge our secrets to the world. That's what ties us together, and that's what makes us what we are.

The only thing I can offer further in this thread is to research ESOTERIC KNOWLEDGE.


And to the person that said that maybe this knowledge is watered down or, not true at all - we're talking about knowledge that has been passed down over eons of humanity.

Not just 2000 years.



Thank you for the support in this thread to all the AC's.


People need to be more open-minded if we are to move forward as a society.

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Hey, OP. Yes you can be a Christian, and a Freemason. Freemasonry is a fraternity, not a religion. I have sat in the lodge with Christians, Jewish people, and Muslims. We are a brotherhood which unites men of all faiths in a bond of brotherhood for the purpose of doing good in the world, there is no sin in that.
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This ^^


Thank you to the AC that supported my views.

Just trying to shed light on a touchy subject.

And as far as artwork being "below average in intellect," messages had to be hidden in plain sight back in the day for fear of persecution by the church.

EVERYTHING that contradicted the church was considered blasphemous, hence the secrecy and/or hidden messages.


And no, we will not divulge our secrets to the world. That's what ties us together, and that's what makes us what we are.

The only thing I can offer further in this thread is to research ESOTERIC KNOWLEDGE.


And to the person that said that maybe this knowledge is watered down or, not true at all - we're talking about knowledge that has been passed down over eons of humanity.

Not just 2000 years.



Thank you for the support in this thread to all the AC's.


People need to be more open-minded if we are to move forward as a society.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


yet no response to my post to you on page 2?
God bless you anyway.
keep traveling on.
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I am Christian and a Mason, as well as all the Masons that I know.

Yes, we were banned from christian churches from the dark ages all the up until the 70's.

But at the point, we are allowed back into the church, just can't receive the sacrament.

The Church is afraid of free-thinkers, simple as that.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


Maybe the church is against some of the principles of masonry not afraid of them. So can you tell us if the masonic quotes in the article are real, or does that go against your oath of secrecy?
 Quoting: @ng3l


Inaccurate.

Back in the 1400's, when the Knight Templar's came back from Jerusalem , they became extremely wealthy.

So wealthy, that it worried the church.

The church outlawed being a Knight Templar, and the king/pope at the time passed a decree to round up all Templar's and their treasures.

What had the church so worried about what the Templar's discovered while digging in Jerusalem?

BTW, the KJV bible is trash - edited, and redited, books removed/altered. I don't know how anyone can take what is written as the word of god, as it was written by man, most time centuries after Jesus Christ walked the earth.

 Quoting: Archaic Mason


Very interesting thread....and comments.

I agree that KJV is not to be trusted.

No Masonry for women? Why? Please inform me. I am very interested.
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There is a body of masonry called: The Order of the Eastern Star, it is open to women who have a masonic tie, father, husband, brother is a mason. In the USA women are not allowed to join, simply because it is a fraternity, not a sorority. These rules vary by jurisdiction, there are female masons in places in Europe.

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Hey, OP. Yes you can be a Christian, and a Freemason. Freemasonry is a fraternity, not a religion. I have sat in the lodge with Christians, Jewish people, and Muslims. We are a brotherhood which unites men of all faiths in a bond of brotherhood for the purpose of doing good in the world, there is no sin in that.
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Yes I know masonry is not a religion, it's a fraternity. But my point in this whole thing is that some things in masonry go against Christianity. For instance secrecy, that alone goes against the teachings of Jesus. Now just because masonry is not considered a religion and does not have to abide by religious rules, does that mean one could be part of it knowing it goes against the teaching's of Jesus and still honestly call himself a Christian. That would be like saying it's ok to be part of the mafia and call myself a Christian because the mafia is not considered a religion right. That makes no sense to me. And yes I just compared masonry to the mafia before you ask.
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And thx to all who have commented on this, my first thread. I think I found a new home here. thx again.
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I remember when I first saw this vid I couldn't stop laughing cause I couldn't believe he really said what he said, that he was lucifer. He probably got yelled at for that, or worse.
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People need to be more open-minded if we are to move forward as a society.
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lovecomm There is nothing praise worthy in treating with evil.

2Cr 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
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People need to be more open-minded if we are to move forward as a society.
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:lovecomm: There is nothing praise worthy in treating with evil.

2Cr 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
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Amen. Love that verse.
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Should Christians be Masons?

No. Christians should get out of the Mason controlled church systems and read the bible for themselves. They should realize that America is Mystery Babylon that is deceiving the whole world.
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Should Christians be Masons?

No. Christians should get out of the Mason controlled church systems and read the bible for themselves. They should realize that America is Mystery Babylon that is deceiving the whole world.
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Yes I agree, everyone should read The Bible for themselves, then they could not be led down a wrong path. And i'm not sure about America being mystery babylon. I thought Iraq was the original babylon, or are you talking about something else. Explain please, I love learning new things.
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Should Christians be Masons?

No. Christians should get out of the Mason controlled church systems and read the bible for themselves. They should realize that America is Mystery Babylon that is deceiving the whole world.
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Yes I agree, everyone should read The Bible for themselves, then they could not be led down a wrong path. And i'm not sure about America being mystery babylon. I thought Iraq was the original babylon, or are you talking about something else. Explain please, I love learning new things.
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The links below are a good start. There is a lot more info out there.

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Should Christians be Masons?

No. Christians should get out of the Mason controlled church systems and read the bible for themselves. They should realize that America is Mystery Babylon that is deceiving the whole world.
 Quoting: Scoobius


Yes I agree, everyone should read The Bible for themselves, then they could not be led down a wrong path. And i'm not sure about America being mystery babylon. I thought Iraq was the original babylon, or are you talking about something else. Explain please, I love learning new things.
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The links below are a good start. There is a lot more info out there.

[link to www.theforbiddenknowledge.com]
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Thx. I will surely read them. I am still not worried if it is because I don't follow america, I follow Christ. But Thx again. Much appreciated.
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Many do without knowing it. It is part of the sorcery.
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Many do without knowing it. It is part of the sorcery.
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Amen to that. If one follows the teaching's of Christ of love one another as He did, and follow the Commandments, all should be good.
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Yes I agree, everyone should read The Bible for themselves, then they could not be led down a wrong path. And i'm not sure about America being mystery babylon. I thought Iraq was the original babylon, or are you talking about something else. Explain please, I love learning new things.
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9teen I believe that the USA is Mystery Babylon. This is probably about the best article on this subject on the web.

[link to www.theforbiddenknowledge.com]
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Yes I agree, everyone should read The Bible for themselves, then they could not be led down a wrong path. And i'm not sure about America being mystery babylon. I thought Iraq was the original babylon, or are you talking about something else. Explain please, I love learning new things.
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:9teen: I believe that the USA is Mystery Babylon. This is probably about the best article on this subject on the web.

[link to www.theforbiddenknowledge.com]
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Thank you very much.
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

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08/02/2012 12:37 AM
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...they may as well, all religions,past and present are scientific metaphors...the same book with different names,places and stories slightly changed but the science is still there...hi goodbye "religions",your secrets are out...watch part 2 also...welcome to the real disclosure and it aint aliens...its lying historians,lying popes,churches,temples,and mosques...the sheeple got the bullshit worthless sinner lies as the secret societies laughed their asses off and counted the fleece behind closed doors...metaphysical sciences,rocket science and other sciences take the place of religion as it always was...this thread will tell you some of the metaphysical science parts> MUST SEE PICS:Egyptian Hieroglyphs Show Detail Images...
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I'll bump this in case everyone was sleep...dont worry the shock will soon wear off...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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08/02/2012 12:39 AM
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turn the round stone calender upside down and the tongue becomes a rocket flying into the galactic alinement...all the carvings,texts and tomb paintings are scientific metaphors,not religions...welcome to a world of antiques and a very very dumbed down version of history the world has been fed...the Incas also had rocket science...the god viracocha in the black and white print is a 2 stage rocket with a 16 wheeled lander with bubble domes as eyes,think 3D,and a smaller lander deploying out the top of the "gods" lander head..the arms are digging machines and god Viracocha stands on a launch platform spewing stylized flames through the platform...turn it sideways and enlarge it and think 3D...the 16 lander leg wheels must be folded inward...higoodbye religious dogma...
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bump this too in case everyone is still in denial the ancients had rocket science...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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08/02/2012 12:46 AM
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I am Christian and a Mason, as well as all the Masons that I know.

Yes, we were banned from christian churches from the dark ages all the up until the 70's.

But at the point, we are allowed back into the church, just can't receive the sacrament.

The Church is afraid of free-thinkers, simple as that.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason

No you cannot be a mason and a Christian.the aim of masonry,is it not,is to find the secret word of God.However if you claim that the word of God is secret then you deny that Jesus is the Word.Therefore by denying Jesus is the Word you are antichrist.
Judgmenthasbegun.
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This thread is hilarious.

A known zionazi calling a 'christian mason' a devil worshipper.

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What degree are you Archaic Mason?
rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.

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