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Why we are the *Last Generation* and the Rapture will happen Rosh Hashana 2012

 
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Why we are the *Last Generation* and the Rapture will happen Rosh Hashana 2012
The Rapture Will Come On Rosh Hashanah...

First please consider what Jesus said, and remember the Parables he did speak in *Scripture*

First the Math Behind it...
From ADAM to JESUS was 4000 years.
that was 77 Generations...

4000 divided by 77 = 51.94 years basically 52 years...

(Adam to Jesus, counting inclusively; that is, Adam is the first generation and Jesus is the seventy-seventh )

From Abraham to Jesus is 42 Generations

2160 years divided by 42 Generations is 51.42 baically 52 years.

Now what did Jesus say:
Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. (Matthew 24:34).


WHEN DID THIS GENERATION START?
1967 the Last Generation Started.

From Luke 21:24

They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

1967 6th Day War
Israel captured East Jerusalem during the 1967 Six-Day War and subsequently annexed it.

So now we know a Generation is 52 years
52 and 1967= 2019.

However we need to take the last week of Daniel 7 years for the *GREAT TRIBULATION*

So 2019- 7 = 2012


NOW WHAT DID JESUS SAY ABOUT NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR in MATTHEW 24?
MATTHEW :24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father... WHEN JESUS SAID THIS, THIS MEANT TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE *ROSH HASHANA* that is the only time in Judasim they will say no one knows only the Father as the BRIDEGROOM coming to take his BRIDE..

Rosha Hashana is 2 days..the FATHER will decide the hour and day the SON can come for his BRIDE

SEPT 16th to Sept 18th, 2012..The 5th Rosh Hashana.

The day no man can know the day or the hour

• The day of the new moon

• The day of the blowing of the Trumpets

• The day of the last trump

• The day of the awakening blast

• The day of the Resurrection

• The beginning of the 10 days of awe

• One long day (lasting 2 days)

• The Day of the King (coronation)

The day the King takes a bride (wedding)
• The day that all men will pass under the rod


ARE YOU READY??????
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BUMP and PIN...

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No pre-trib rapture...

There isn't even a rapture mentioned, period, but if it were to happen it would be post-tribulation.

I dont thump the bible but that's what it is.
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No pre-trib rapture...

There isn't even a rapture mentioned, period, but if it were to happen it would be post-tribulation.

I dont thump the bible but that's what it is.
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No the Word RAPTURE is not USED....

And if you use the Math the Numbers that GOD gives us as well as Signs and Seasons the Scripture of Matthew 24 YES WE CAN KNOW..
We do not know the Day or the Hour Jesus as the Bridegroom comes for his BRIDE the CHURCH, but we do know it will be on ROSH HASHANA..That is why Jesus told the Jewish People only the FATHER knows when he would return because that was the Custom of the Jewish Wedding Ceremony and ROSH HASHANA.
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Jesus spoke of no rapture nor are there any secrete stuff of that sort in the false bible.
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And what if it doesn't happen? Then what?
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Jesus spoke of no rapture nor are there any secrete stuff of that sort in the false bible.
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clappa



Why should we believe "John of Patmos"?

We don't even know who this guy was!!!!!!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Jesus Christ never talked about "Beast, "AntiChrist", "End Times", "Rapture"...
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Jesus spoke of no rapture nor are there any secrete stuff of that sort in the false bible.
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Not the WORD...

Jesus is returning for his BRIDE..THE CHURCH

THE WORLD will not see Jesus when he comes for the Church that is why he said BE READY, as he will come like a THEIF in the NIGHT

The Second Coming of Christ will come at the Battle of Armageddon.... This time EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM COMING IN GLORY..IT IS AT THIS TIME THAT EVERY KNEE WILL BOW AND TOUNGE CONFESS JESUS IS LORD TO THE GLORY OF GOD....
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And what if it doesn't happen? Then what?
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Then we would re-evaluate...Many many are watching and studying and looking for the return of Christ, and this is what the BIBLE SAYS....

Luke 21:32

I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

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Nice accurate dating, but I thought the rapture was supposed to be before the great tribulation, or is it supposed to be in the middle or the beginning of the tribulation?
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, more religious nonsense.
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The rupture will happen on July 5th, 1998

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I agree, anyone who knows Jewish culture has to agree Jesus using the term bride and the term no one knows the day or hour but the father would have to see it.
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Nice accurate dating, but I thought the rapture was supposed to be before the great tribulation, or is it supposed to be in the middle or the beginning of the tribulation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2013792


If the Great Tribulation Starts in 2012 then 7 years later it would be 2019...However Jesus is cutting those DAYS short


Matthew 24:22

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.


That is why some have said the 2nd Coming should be in 2015 based upon Solar and Lunar Eclipses..
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Hmmmm

Rosh Hashanah is one of the most important holidays in the Jewish religion. You may know quite a bit about the holiday, or you may know that it has something to do with apples and honey, and that it is a Jewish "High Holiday." Or perhaps you know nothing about it at all.
In this article, you will learn about Rosh Hashanah -- where the holiday comes from, how people celebrate it, and what the "High Holiday" period is all about.
We'll start with the most basic question: What does Rosh Hashanah celebrate?
Rosh Hashanah is many things, but most people know it as the Jewish New Year. In fact, the significance of Rosh Hashanah encapsulates four major and interconnected themes.

The holiday is:
The Jewish New Year
The Day of Judgement
The Day of Remembrance
The Day of Shofar Blowing

Rosh Hashanah is one of two High Holidays in the Jewish religion, the other being Yom Kippur, which occurs 10 days after Rosh Hashanah begins. These two holidays form the High Holiday period, arguably the most significant time in the Jewish year, as it marks the chance for repentance and forgiveness in the eyes of God. During the High Holidays, jewish people cleanse their soul and get the chance to start fresh with an unburdened conscience and the intention of doing better in the coming year.
According to the Talmud, God created mankind on the first day of the month Tishri. As such, Rosh Hashanah commemorates the creation of the human race. It is a time for cleansing and renewal, a chance to receive forgiveness and clear the slate. The importance of the holiday is reflected in its two-day observance; most Jewish holidays are celebrated for only one day.

Rosh Hashanah, literally translated as "head of the year," is considered the Jewish New Year. The Day of the Lord/Generation But the holiday does not fall on the first day of the first month of the Jewish calendar. Rosh Hashanah begins with the first day of the seventh month, Tishri, and so is something of a symbolic New Year (at least in terms of what most people think of as "New Year's"). It is actually one of several New Year observations that occur throughout the year, and this particular New Year marks the opportunity to put the sins of the previous year in the past, and move forward having received God's forgiveness.

In this way, Rosh Hashanah is the Day of Judgement. One of the most prominent themes of the holiday revolves around the symbolic "Book of Life." A Jew's life depends on whether or not he or she makes the decision to make amends during the High Holiday period through the means of repentance (teshuvah), prayer (tfiloh), and charity (tzedakah). It is a key moment, a time to reflect on past mistakes and resolve in front of God to not repeat them in the coming year. It is also a celebration of man's free will -- making the conscious decision to look inside oneself, to look truly at one's life and make amends. In exercising this choice, which was given to him by God, man makes himself worthy of God's mercy.

On Rosh Hashanah, jewish people often say to one another, "May you be inscribed and sealed in the Book of Life." The High Holiday period is a choice between life and death, righteousness and sin, and those who repent are on their way to being inscribed in the "Book of Life," which brings with it the promise of a good year. The belief is that on Rosh Hashanah, the names are written in the book, and on Yom Kippur (10 days later) the book is sealed. These 10 days are referred to as the Days of Awe.

As the Day of Remembrance, Rosh Hashanah recalls the story of Isaac's near-sacrifice, which Jewish tradition states occurred on the first of Tishri. In this biblical account, God commanded Isaac's father, Abraham, to sacrifice his only son as an offering. Abraham accepts God's command, builds an altar, and prepares to sacrifice his son to prove his obedience and faith in God. At the very last minute, an angel conveying God's wishes stopped Abraham from killing Isaac, and pointed out a ram caught by its horns in a nearby bush. The angel told Abraham to sacrifice the ram in place of Isaac -- Abraham had passed God's test.

As a result, God blessed Abraham. This story is recalled on Rosh Hashanah to remind jewish people that submission before God is the way to attain God's mercy, and the truly righteous do not question God's will. They do as God commands and are rewarded for their faith.

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The Day of Rosh Hoshanna is a New Year, and a rebirth of Earth.

That means the New Age is coming to Earth.
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And what if it doesn't happen? Then what?
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Then we get to add this to Sergman's ever growing thread and laugh and point fingers.
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Thank god, I am so sick of you guys.
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I like you susie-but this is like the tenth time youve made a similar prediction-and been wrong. When Jesus said 'today has enough trouble, dont worry about tomorrow', He was referring to junk like this. your threads are becoming less Gospel-more b.s. glp
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Rosh Hashana is the day on which G-d completed the creation of this world, by creating Adam, the original man. Adam's very first act was to proclaim the Almighty as King of the Universe. He called upon all creatures: "Come, let us worship, bow down, and kneel before G-d, our maker."
Each Rosh Hashana, we too proclaim the Kingship of G-d, and reaffirm our commitment to serve Him well.
Just as on the original Rosh Hashana, G-d created the world for the first time, so each Rosh Hashana He reconsiders and re-evaluates the quality of our relationship with Him, and creates our world anew.
The Book of Life

On the first evening of Rosh Hashana, after services, we exchange the traditional blessing, "May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year."
Our sages explain that on Rosh Hashana, we all stand in judgment before G-d -- "like a flock of sheep before the shepherd." If we are worthy, we are "inscribed" in the "Book of Life." Ten days later, on Yom Kippur, the Book is sealed.
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Jesus spoke of no rapture nor are there any secrete stuff of that sort in the false bible.
 Quoting: Doug Jones


Not the WORD...

Jesus is returning for his BRIDE..THE CHURCH

THE WORLD will not see Jesus when he comes for the Church that is why he said BE READY, as he will come like a THEIF in the NIGHT

The Second Coming of Christ will come at the Battle of Armageddon.... This time EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM COMING IN GLORY..IT IS AT THIS TIME THAT EVERY KNEE WILL BOW AND TOUNGE CONFESS JESUS IS LORD TO THE GLORY OF GOD....
 Quoting: christian


You just contradicted yourself, with all due respect. If the world will NOT see Jesus when He comes, then how will every eye see him coming? There's no secret Rapture, He will guide us through Tribulation.
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The Rapture Will Come On Rosh Hashanah...

First please consider what Jesus said, and remember the Parables he did speak in *Scripture*

First the Math Behind it...
From ADAM to JESUS was 4000 years.
that was 77 Generations...

4000 divided by 77 = 51.94 years basically 52 years...

(Adam to Jesus, counting inclusively; that is, Adam is the first generation and Jesus is the seventy-seventh )

From Abraham to Jesus is 42 Generations

2160 years divided by 42 Generations is 51.42 baically 52 years.

Now what did Jesus say:
Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. (Matthew 24:34).


WHEN DID THIS GENERATION START?
1967 the Last Generation Started.

From Luke 21:24

They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

1967 6th Day War
Israel captured East Jerusalem during the 1967 Six-Day War and subsequently annexed it.

So now we know a Generation is 52 years
52 and 1967= 2019.

However we need to take the last week of Daniel 7 years for the *GREAT TRIBULATION*

So 2019- 7 = 2012


NOW WHAT DID JESUS SAY ABOUT NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR in MATTHEW 24?
MATTHEW :24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father... WHEN JESUS SAID THIS, THIS MEANT TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE *ROSH HASHANA* that is the only time in Judasim they will say no one knows only the Father as the BRIDEGROOM coming to take his BRIDE..

Rosha Hashana is 2 days..the FATHER will decide the hour and day the SON can come for his BRIDE

SEPT 16th to Sept 18th, 2012..The 5th Rosh Hashana.

The day no man can know the day or the hour

• The day of the new moon

• The day of the blowing of the Trumpets

• The day of the last trump

• The day of the awakening blast

• The day of the Resurrection

• The beginning of the 10 days of awe

• One long day (lasting 2 days)

• The Day of the King (coronation)

The day the King takes a bride (wedding)
• The day that all men will pass under the rod


ARE YOU READY??????
 Quoting: christian


ARE YOU READY THE FOUR HORNS OF TRUTH ARE SOUNDING... AND THE LITTLE HORN IS BLOWING...

YOU NEED TO GO AND READ THE THREAD ABOUT THE BLACK KNIGHT... AND BE PREPARED TO SHOCKED AND AMAZED...

THE SPIRIT WINS THIS... IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN...

THE MATH BEHIND IS SIMPLE...

JOHN 3:16... JOIN OUR HOME NOW... (3X7)+(3X7)= 42 THE SCIENTIFIC NUMBER FOR LIFE... AND THE SPIRITUAL VERSE OF LIFE ALL PERFECT...

LUKE... 21:24= (3X6)+ (3X6)= 18+18=36= 9

SEE YA AT GATE NUMBER NINE... THE GATE OF JESUS CHRIST...

THE NAME MATTHEW... MAKE ALL TRULY TOGETHER HERE EVERYONE'S WELCOME... TRUE AND THE FIRST NAME IN THE NEW TESTAMENT...

THIS GENERATION STARTED 26500 YEARS AGO THIS THIS THE END THAT LOOPS TO THE BEGINNING...

1234567890... THREE TIMES THIS HAS HAPPENED THE FOURTH WORLD ...


NOW WHAT DID JESUS SAY ABOUT NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR in MATTHEW 24?

NO ONE KNOWS BUT THE FATHER... NOT EVEN JESUS KNOWS...

THE WORD TIME... TRUTH IS MY EXAMPLE AND IT IS TIME FOR THE TRUTH...

THE WORD SHEEP... SHIP... SEE HIM IN PARADISE...

GO TO THE THREAD I SPOKE ABOUT...

GO=GET ONENESS... BORN ONCE... NOW YOU NEED TO BE BORN TWICE... BY THE HOLY SPIRIT AS HE GIVES YOU A NEW HEART...

YOUR SECOND BIRTH...

IF YOU ARE TO TEACH IT RIGHT...

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The only rapture you will see is on the face of your priest when he gets his hands down the little boys pants.
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Every word you have ever read in the bible is a lie written by a liar. God is lies. God is death. God is child abuse. God is child molestation. God is murder. God is filth. God is sewage. God is putrid. God is repugnant waste. God is darkness. God is bad blood. God is vomit. God is the rat. God is the foulness of the world. God is a bile soaked toilet. God is a demon.
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The Rapture Will Come On Rosh Hashanah...

First please consider what Jesus said, and remember the Parables he did speak in *Scripture*

First the Math Behind it...
From ADAM to JESUS was 4000 years.
that was 77 Generations...

4000 divided by 77 = 51.94 years basically 52 years...

(Adam to Jesus, counting inclusively; that is, Adam is the first generation and Jesus is the seventy-seventh )

From Abraham to Jesus is 42 Generations

2160 years divided by 42 Generations is 51.42 baically 52 years.

Now what did Jesus say:
Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. (Matthew 24:34).


WHEN DID THIS GENERATION START?
1967 the Last Generation Started.

From Luke 21:24

They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

1967 6th Day War
Israel captured East Jerusalem during the 1967 Six-Day War and subsequently annexed it.

So now we know a Generation is 52 years
52 and 1967= 2019.

However we need to take the last week of Daniel 7 years for the *GREAT TRIBULATION*

So 2019- 7 = 2012


NOW WHAT DID JESUS SAY ABOUT NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR in MATTHEW 24?
MATTHEW :24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father... WHEN JESUS SAID THIS, THIS MEANT TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE *ROSH HASHANA* that is the only time in Judasim they will say no one knows only the Father as the BRIDEGROOM coming to take his BRIDE..

Rosha Hashana is 2 days..the FATHER will decide the hour and day the SON can come for his BRIDE

SEPT 16th to Sept 18th, 2012..The 5th Rosh Hashana.

The day no man can know the day or the hour

• The day of the new moon

• The day of the blowing of the Trumpets

• The day of the last trump

• The day of the awakening blast

• The day of the Resurrection

• The beginning of the 10 days of awe

• One long day (lasting 2 days)

• The Day of the King (coronation)

The day the King takes a bride (wedding)
• The day that all men will pass under the rod


ARE YOU READY??????
 Quoting: christian


I'm not ready. But, I'm sure I'm repenting.
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Jesus spoke of no rapture nor are there any secrete stuff of that sort in the false bible.
 Quoting: Doug Jones


Not the WORD...

Jesus is returning for his BRIDE..THE CHURCH

THE WORLD will not see Jesus when he comes for the Church that is why he said BE READY, as he will come like a THEIF in the NIGHT

The Second Coming of Christ will come at the Battle of Armageddon.... This time EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM COMING IN GLORY..IT IS AT THIS TIME THAT EVERY KNEE WILL BOW AND TOUNGE CONFESS JESUS IS LORD TO THE GLORY OF GOD....
 Quoting: christian


You just contradicted yourself, with all due respect. If the world will NOT see Jesus when He comes, then how will every eye see him coming? There's no secret Rapture, He will guide us through Tribulation.
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I said....

There will be 2 MAJOR EVENTS concerning the Return of Jesus Christ.

When he returns for his Church, no one will know..ONLY the Church

the Second Coming- ALL WILL SEE...

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"Why I believe Tu B'Av (August 3, 2012) will be the Rapture of the Church"


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Why I believe Tu B'Av (August 3, 2012) will be the Rapture of the Church:

It all started 11 1/2 years ago. On January 3, 2001, actually it was already the 4th, at just after midnight, the Spirit of God spoke very clearly to me and said these exact words: "You will be as John the Baptist and will write something that will save millions of people from the deception that is about to take place." Sometime between then and January 6th, the Lord told me to wait for Him to come on the night of January 6, 2001. I wrote to many people telling them that the Rapture would take place on January 6/7, 2001, because that was what I thought the Lord was telling me. I sat on my couch that night, just talking and listening to the Lord. We were having a wonderful time together and His presence was very strong. At midnight, I began to feel a little sleepy and asked Him how much longer until He came. He said to wait just a little longer. At around 12:10 am my body began to shake violently for I would guess about a minute. Then it stopped just as suddenly as it started. The presence of God was all over me. I asked the Lord what had just happened and His reply was, "Just wait." About a minute or so later, it happened AGAIN, the violent shaking started for maybe a minute or so, with God's presence all over me. But this time, it was a little different because on the second shaking, my mouth began to tingle, like the feeling when your foot falls asleep. I asked the Lord why my mouth was tingling like that and He said this, "This represents Isaiah, when He saw me and the coal touched His lips and his sin was atoned for." Once again, it stopped suddenly after about a minute or so. I asked the Lord, "What were those 2 shakings?" I thought maybe something had happened right at those 2 moments in the world. I really did not understand it at all. The only reply from the Lord was, "Go and study the Feasts."

That was it. No more revelation or understanding in 11 1/2 years. For over 11 years, I have been trying to understand the meaning of it all, and have been carrying a burden because I know the Lord expects me to write something that will help save millions of people from a coming deception and that it has to do with those 2 shakings. Finally, after 11 1/2 years, I now believe that the Lord has given me the revelation of what it all means. And it all points to the 15th of Av - Tu B'Av 2012 as the Firstfruits Rapture of the Church!

January 6, 2001, at midnight, was exactly 6 days after the New Year's Celebration. Although the world celebrated the New Millennium the year before, it actually should have been celebrated on January 1, 2001. That was the actual day that ushered in the "New Millennium" on our calendar. The fireworks went off at midnight, just like the fireworks will go off at midnight at the opening of the Olympics ceremony next week. The Lord has been pointing me to this day as it starts the 9th of Av, right as the fireworks are going off. After writing to some people about the Opening Ceremony, I turned on the TV and within 10 minutes, saw these two phrases:

1. When the Games begin
2. Let the games begin

There could be something huge that takes place at that time, or within a day or two, since the 9th and 10th of Av are the saddest days in Jewish history. But, it was 6 days after the fireworks went off at midnight on January 1, 2001, that I had those 2 shakings, again right after midnight. Six days after the 9th of Av is the 15th of Av, which happens to be a Jewish festival day, called Tu B'Av. I will try to explain later how Tu B'Av is a perfect representation of the resurrection of the dead and Rapture of the Church. For now, I will just say that Tu B'Av is a minor feast day and I had only studied the major feasts in Israel. I only learned about this feast yesterday! I believe the reason Tu B'Av is a minor feast for the jewish people is because Tu B'Av is for the CHURCH, not so much for the jewish people!

OK, back to the 2 shakings. Why did the first shaking not have the "atonement" part with it and the second one did? I believe the 2 shakings represent the 2 Raptures, the first one will be on Tu B'Av 2012 (August 3) and the second one will take place after the Tribulation period on the Day of Atonement. This is why there were 2 separate shakings. The Lord was pointing me to the 2 Raptures. The second one definitely points to the Day of Atonement, because the Lord said it represented "when Isaiah's sin was atoned for". The first one points to Tu B'Av, because it is 6 days after the fireworks started at midnight.

Here is one article of many showing how the 2 feasts of Tu B'Av and the Day of Atonement are related:

The Talmud teaches us that You have not experienced joy until you have experienced the two happiest days of the year: Tu B'Av and Yom Kippur. For those who do not know about Tu B'Av it is a festive day known in Modern Israel as a Yom Ahavah (Day of Love). It is practically a Jewish Valentines Day!

Rabbi Simeon ben Gamliel said there never were in Israel greater days of joy than the 15th of Av and the Day of Atonement. On these days the daughters of Jerusalem used to walk out in white garments that they borrowed in order not to put to shame anyone who had none. For most of us that have been trained in the somberness of Jewish holidays especially Yom Kippur this description seems odd. It seems so incongruous to imagine these days of dancing and joy associated with Yom Kippur. There is a deep similarity between Yom Kippur and Tu B'Av. Whereas Tisha B'Av is the day when [tradition says] God declared that the jewish people would wander 40 years in the desert (until the generation that knew slavery died out), Tu B'Av is the day when, 40 years later, the remaining 15,000 Israelites of the desert generation were told they would be able to enter the Promised Land.


OK, back to the part of the Lord telling me I would be as John the Baptist. This has also been a mystery I have been trying to figure out. I am nothing like John the Baptist. What did the Lord mean by that? I think I finally understand that as well. John the Baptist said this, "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire." I believe that John is prophesying here and explaining the beginning of the Church age and the end of the Church age. It all began on Pentecost when they were baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire. It all ends on Tu B'Av, at the END of the wheat harvest and beginning of the grape harvest, when He gathers His wheat into the barn and burns the chaff. This is the harvest time, at the end of the wheat season. The festivals point to the beginning and ending of the harvest seasons:

Firstfruits Feast - firstfruits of barley (Jesus fulfilled)
Pentecost - end of barley season/ firstfruits of wheat (fulfilled on Pentecost when Church age started)
Tu B'Av - end of wheat season/firstfruit of grapes (to be fulfilled at first Rapture of the Church)
Day of Atonement - end of grape season (final Rapture of Tribulation Saints)

Revelation 14 says this:
Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

I call these people the "purehearts". They are redeemed from the earth at the time of the Rapture. Their hearts are pure and they are blameless. The PURE in heart shall see God. They are offered as FIRSTFRUITS. The firstfruits of grapes, or the New Wine, or the New Covenant. It's at the time of the wheat harvest, the end of the wheat season and beginning of the grape season.

And it's 4 months after Passover. Jesus said, "Do you not say FOUR MORE MONTHS until the Harvest?" Four months from when? From Passover when He gave His disciples the bread (wheat) and wine (grapes), showing the 2 are connected. It's the end of the wheat and beginning of the grapes. Four months from Passover is Tu B'Av.

Boaz and Ruth's wedding is another example of the Rapture/ wedding of the Bride. Boaz represents Jesus as the Kinsman Redeemer and Ruth represents the Church. Ruth 2:14, "And at mealtime Boaz said to her, “Come here and eat some bread and dip your morsel in the wine.” Here we have Boaz (representing Jesus) giving bread and wine to Ruth (the Church). So, when did their wedding take place? Ruth 2:23, "So she kept fast by the maidens of Boaz to glean unto the end of barley harvest and of wheat harvest; and dwelt with her mother in law." Ruth stayed with her mother-in-law until the end of the wheat harvest and then left her mother-in-law to live with her new husband Boaz.

One other clue that the Bible gives us is when Paul in 1 Thessalonians and John in Revelation refer to the Rapture as a "mystery". The jewish people refer to Tu B'Av as the most mysterious day of the Jewish calendar.

Another clue from Scripture is this:

Psalm 81:3
Blow the trumpet at the time of the New Moon, At the full moon, on our solemn feast day.

The Jewish people were commanded to blow trumpets on their feast days that fell on a New Moon or Full Moon. The 15th of Av is on a full moon and this is the LAST TRUMPET of the year before the New Year begins for the jewish people in September on Rosh Hashanah. Again, Paul mentions the key words, "MYSTERY" and "LAST TRUMPET" in 1 Thessalonians. Either Paul, or God, seems to be pointing us to Tu B'Av by putting these key words in the verses that talk about the resurrection of the dead and rapture of the Church.

Yet ANOTHER clue from Scripture is when Jesus tells us that people will be eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage. There is no day more festive for the Jewish people that then Tu B'Av festival. It is known as the "Day of Love" and similar to Valentine's Day for us. It is the most common day for the Jewish people to have their wedding on! And it's the day when the Jewish virgins go out in the fields to dance, wearing WHITE GARMENTS and DANCE and the young men would come looking for a Bride. Does this not sound like the Rapture?!?!?

And then we have the resurrection of the dead! The jewish people while wandering in the desert were according to the Midrash commanded by Moses to sleep in their graves as punishment for not believing the spies who were sent to scout out the promised land. The jewish people who slept in their graves each year would arise from their graves and discover that 15,000 of the older generation had died in the night. This continued to happen until all of the older generation had died off. Tu B'Av was celebrated because they knew that at long last they were freed from the curse of the grave and free to enter the promised land under the leadership of Joshua. We all know that the name of Jesus is derived from Joshua. I suspect we all are aware that there is a parallel between the promised land and Heaven. The land flowing with milk and honey. Tu B'Av commemorates when all the chosen people rose from their graves alive!

Someone else on the Doves website pointed out that the tribe of Benjamin was allowed to snatch brides on Tu B'Av and that the word snatched in the Septuagint is harpazo (caught up, Rapture)!

We again see in Micah 7, a hint from Scripture as to the timing of the Rapture:
What misery is mine! I am like one who gathers summer fruit at the gleaning of the vineyard; there is no cluster of grapes to eat, none of the early figs that I crave.2 The faithful have been swept from the land; not one upright person remains. And then in verse 4, Micah says, "The day God visits you has come, the day your watchmen sound the alarm. Now is the time of your confusion." In the fruit harvest, the grapes are first to ripen, so the first ripe of the grapes is the time the "good man" disappears from the earth. Micah is as the time of the Summer fruits of the GRAPE HARVESTING of the vineyard, which is the FIRST RIPE GRAPES. The FIRST RIPE GRAPES is the time of the rapture!!!

Here are 2 very interesting articles I found on the internet that point to Tu B'Av as the most symbolic of festivals for the resurrection of the dead and Rapture of the Church:


Matthew 24:38 “For as in the days that were before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark”

The 15th of Av is the most mysterious day of the Jewish calendar.
The Talmud tells us that many years ago in ancient Israel, it was the custom that on the 15th of Av "the daughters of Jerusalem would go out in borrowed linen garments... and dance in the vineyards" and "whoever did not have a wife would go there" to find himself a bride. The reason they would wear borrowed linen garments was that - those without nice clothes of their own would not be embarrassed.

The “full moon” of the tragic month of Av is the festival of the Future Redemption.
The 15th of Av this year is August 3, 2012 (Summer time)

The 15th of Av is the day where people were celebrating, eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage.

Matthew 24:32-33 “Now learn a parable of the fig tree. When his branch is yet tender and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer (is it rapture?) is nigh: so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near even at the doors”


Another article about Tu B'Av:
The harvest times of God of Barley, Wheat, and Fruit are the ones that have prophetic/spiritual significance.

The first day of the Barley harvest is when Christ rose being the “First Fruits” of those who slept”, thus making the resurrection of Christ and those that slept the prophetic fulfillment of the Barley. This eliminates the rapture of the bride being the Barley!

Then 50 days later, on the first day of the Wheat harvest, the bride of Christ was born making us the “First Fruits” of the wheat. James 1:18 tells us we are a “kind of First Fruits” of God. There are only 3 types of first fruits in in the harvests…

First Fruits of Barley, Wheat, & Grapes…

That is why it says “kind of”, because there are more than one! We, the bride, are the first fruits of the wheat because we were birthed on Pentecost which is when the first fruits of the wheat is harvested!

By scripture, we are clearly the wheat! So, the prophetic fulfillment of the Wheat harvest is only “half done”. Why?

The prophetic fulfillment of the barley harvest took “one second” with the resurrection of Christ and “those that slept”. The prophetic fulfillment of the wheat harvest is two stages….Birth of church & rapture of church!

The church first has to be born, then it takes a couple thousand years to complete the wheat so it can’t be fulfilled in a moment or day!!

So, the first half of the fulfillment of the wheat harvest is the birth of the church. The other prophetic fulfillment of the wheat harvest will be the rapture. So, we have been in the prophetic wheat harvest for 2000 plus years.

So, the prophetic wheat harvest ends with the rapture of the bride.

The last first fruits are those of the grapes. The first fruits of the grape harvest are those that have endure the great tribulation (Wrath of Lamb). The first fruit of the grapes are those that are thrown into the wine-press of his wrath (Wrath of Lamb).

The ending of the entire grape harvest is 3.5 years later on the feast of Atonement, at the seperation of the sheep/goats judgment!!!

As you can see, the bride of Christ is CLEARLY, CLEARLY the first fruit wheat of God. The timing of these agricultural harvest times pattern the “season” they actually occur in the prophetic sense. Now, this only means one thing….

The rapture of the bride of Christ (completion of wheat harvest) will happen the time they end agriculturally…the SUMMER!!!!!!!

Now, to my new insight I hope from the holy ghost….

If you look closely, the beginning and ending of the harvest times are ALL on FESTIVALS!!

Barley harvest beginning – First Fruits/Passover

Barley harvest ending – Pentecost

BOTH HOLIDAYS….

Wheat harvest beginning – Pentecost

Wheat harvest ending – Tu B’Av

BOTH HOLIDAYS….

Grape harvest beginning – Tu B’Av (This is the day when the grape harvest begins in Israel)…

The grape harvest begins when WHEAT harvest ends, just like Wheat harvest begins when Barley harvest ends!!!

If the grape harvest begins on Tu B’Av, then that is when the WHEAT HARVEST ENDS!!!!!!

Then…

Grape harvest begins – Tu B’Av

Then..Grape harvest ends on HOLIDAY AS WELL…

Which would be Atonement!!!!!!!!

All the harvest times begin and finish on HOLIDAYS!!!

The wheat harvest then ends on Tu B’Av…thus the rapture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Micah 7 supports this 100%.

It says the rapture (good man vanishes) at the “time of the first ripe grapes”. This is when the first ripe clusters of grapes off the tree are cut and this would clearly be the first day the grapes harvest begin…which is “Tu B’Av”.

Ruth married Boaz at end of wheat harvest! So, the rapture is to happen at “end” of wheat harvest…”beginning” of grape harvest which is….

“Tu B’Av”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAPTURE!!!!
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I like you susie-but this is like the tenth time youve made a similar prediction-and been wrong. When Jesus said 'today has enough trouble, dont worry about tomorrow', He was referring to junk like this. your threads are becoming less Gospel-more b.s. glp
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No my friend..Jesus talks about all the SIGNS that point to his return...As we walk through these 8DAYS* we learn more about the return of Christ...

GOD continues to grant us his WISDOM if we continue to seek out and WATCH..

He never says..Okay this time you did not get it right..So stop.. HE SAYS continue to SEEK and WATCH...

If you don't then you will be Sleeping when he returns...
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Fuck your Rosh Hashanah.. You don't even know how to spell it..

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"Why I believe Tu B'Av (August 3, 2012) will be the Rapture of the Church"


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Why I believe Tu B'Av (August 3, 2012) will be the Rapture of the Church:

It all started 11 1/2 years ago. On January 3, 2001, actually it was already the 4th, at just after midnight, the Spirit of God spoke very clearly to me and said these exact words: "You will be as John the Baptist and will write something that will save millions of people from the deception that is about to take place." Sometime between then and January 6th, the Lord told me to wait for Him to come on the night of January 6, 2001. I wrote to many people telling them that the Rapture would take place on January 6/7, 2001, because that was what I thought the Lord was telling me. I sat on my couch that night, just talking and listening to the Lord. We were having a wonderful time together and His presence was very strong. At midnight, I began to feel a little sleepy and asked Him how much longer until He came. He said to wait just a little longer. At around 12:10 am my body began to shake violently for I would guess about a minute. Then it stopped just as suddenly as it started. The presence of God was all over me. I asked the Lord what had just happened and His reply was, "Just wait." About a minute or so later, it happened AGAIN, the violent shaking started for maybe a minute or so, with God's presence all over me. But this time, it was a little different because on the second shaking, my mouth began to tingle, like the feeling when your foot falls asleep. I asked the Lord why my mouth was tingling like that and He said this, "This represents Isaiah, when He saw me and the coal touched His lips and his sin was atoned for." Once again, it stopped suddenly after about a minute or so. I asked the Lord, "What were those 2 shakings?" I thought maybe something had happened right at those 2 moments in the world. I really did not understand it at all. The only reply from the Lord was, "Go and study the Feasts."

That was it. No more revelation or understanding in 11 1/2 years. For over 11 years, I have been trying to understand the meaning of it all, and have been carrying a burden because I know the Lord expects me to write something that will help save millions of people from a coming deception and that it has to do with those 2 shakings. Finally, after 11 1/2 years, I now believe that the Lord has given me the revelation of what it all means. And it all points to the 15th of Av - Tu B'Av 2012 as the Firstfruits Rapture of the Church!

January 6, 2001, at midnight, was exactly 6 days after the New Year's Celebration. Although the world celebrated the New Millennium the year before, it actually should have been celebrated on January 1, 2001. That was the actual day that ushered in the "New Millennium" on our calendar. The fireworks went off at midnight, just like the fireworks will go off at midnight at the opening of the Olympics ceremony next week. The Lord has been pointing me to this day as it starts the 9th of Av, right as the fireworks are going off. After writing to some people about the Opening Ceremony, I turned on the TV and within 10 minutes, saw these two phrases:

1. When the Games begin
2. Let the games begin

There could be something huge that takes place at that time, or within a day or two, since the 9th and 10th of Av are the saddest days in Jewish history. But, it was 6 days after the fireworks went off at midnight on January 1, 2001, that I had those 2 shakings, again right after midnight. Six days after the 9th of Av is the 15th of Av, which happens to be a Jewish festival day, called Tu B'Av. I will try to explain later how Tu B'Av is a perfect representation of the resurrection of the dead and Rapture of the Church. For now, I will just say that Tu B'Av is a minor feast day and I had only studied the major feasts in Israel. I only learned about this feast yesterday! I believe the reason Tu B'Av is a minor feast for the jewish people is because Tu B'Av is for the CHURCH, not so much for the jewish people!

OK, back to the 2 shakings. Why did the first shaking not have the "atonement" part with it and the second one did? I believe the 2 shakings represent the 2 Raptures, the first one will be on Tu B'Av 2012 (August 3) and the second one will take place after the Tribulation period on the Day of Atonement. This is why there were 2 separate shakings. The Lord was pointing me to the 2 Raptures. The second one definitely points to the Day of Atonement, because the Lord said it represented "when Isaiah's sin was atoned for". The first one points to Tu B'Av, because it is 6 days after the fireworks started at midnight.

Here is one article of many showing how the 2 feasts of Tu B'Av and the Day of Atonement are related:

The Talmud teaches us that You have not experienced joy until you have experienced the two happiest days of the year: Tu B'Av and Yom Kippur. For those who do not know about Tu B'Av it is a festive day known in Modern Israel as a Yom Ahavah (Day of Love). It is practically a Jewish Valentines Day!

Rabbi Simeon ben Gamliel said there never were in Israel greater days of joy than the 15th of Av and the Day of Atonement. On these days the daughters of Jerusalem used to walk out in white garments that they borrowed in order not to put to shame anyone who had none. For most of us that have been trained in the somberness of Jewish holidays especially Yom Kippur this description seems odd. It seems so incongruous to imagine these days of dancing and joy associated with Yom Kippur. There is a deep similarity between Yom Kippur and Tu B'Av. Whereas Tisha B'Av is the day when [tradition says] God declared that the jewish people would wander 40 years in the desert (until the generation that knew slavery died out), Tu B'Av is the day when, 40 years later, the remaining 15,000 Israelites of the desert generation were told they would be able to enter the Promised Land.


OK, back to the part of the Lord telling me I would be as John the Baptist. This has also been a mystery I have been trying to figure out. I am nothing like John the Baptist. What did the Lord mean by that? I think I finally understand that as well. John the Baptist said this, "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire." I believe that John is prophesying here and explaining the beginning of the Church age and the end of the Church age. It all began on Pentecost when they were baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire. It all ends on Tu B'Av, at the END of the wheat harvest and beginning of the grape harvest, when He gathers His wheat into the barn and burns the chaff. This is the harvest time, at the end of the wheat season. The festivals point to the beginning and ending of the harvest seasons:

Firstfruits Feast - firstfruits of barley (Jesus fulfilled)
Pentecost - end of barley season/ firstfruits of wheat (fulfilled on Pentecost when Church age started)
Tu B'Av - end of wheat season/firstfruit of grapes (to be fulfilled at first Rapture of the Church)
Day of Atonement - end of grape season (final Rapture of Tribulation Saints)

Revelation 14 says this:
Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

I call these people the "purehearts". They are redeemed from the earth at the time of the Rapture. Their hearts are pure and they are blameless. The PURE in heart shall see God. They are offered as FIRSTFRUITS. The firstfruits of grapes, or the New Wine, or the New Covenant. It's at the time of the wheat harvest, the end of the wheat season and beginning of the grape season.

And it's 4 months after Passover. Jesus said, "Do you not say FOUR MORE MONTHS until the Harvest?" Four months from when? From Passover when He gave His disciples the bread (wheat) and wine (grapes), showing the 2 are connected. It's the end of the wheat and beginning of the grapes. Four months from Passover is Tu B'Av.

Boaz and Ruth's wedding is another example of the Rapture/ wedding of the Bride. Boaz represents Jesus as the Kinsman Redeemer and Ruth represents the Church. Ruth 2:14, "And at mealtime Boaz said to her, “Come here and eat some bread and dip your morsel in the wine.” Here we have Boaz (representing Jesus) giving bread and wine to Ruth (the Church). So, when did their wedding take place? Ruth 2:23, "So she kept fast by the maidens of Boaz to glean unto the end of barley harvest and of wheat harvest; and dwelt with her mother in law." Ruth stayed with her mother-in-law until the end of the wheat harvest and then left her mother-in-law to live with her new husband Boaz.

One other clue that the Bible gives us is when Paul in 1 Thessalonians and John in Revelation refer to the Rapture as a "mystery". The jewish people refer to Tu B'Av as the most mysterious day of the Jewish calendar.

Another clue from Scripture is this:

Psalm 81:3
Blow the trumpet at the time of the New Moon, At the full moon, on our solemn feast day.

The Jewish people were commanded to blow trumpets on their feast days that fell on a New Moon or Full Moon. The 15th of Av is on a full moon and this is the LAST TRUMPET of the year before the New Year begins for the jewish people in September on Rosh Hashanah. Again, Paul mentions the key words, "MYSTERY" and "LAST TRUMPET" in 1 Thessalonians. Either Paul, or God, seems to be pointing us to Tu B'Av by putting these key words in the verses that talk about the resurrection of the dead and rapture of the Church.

Yet ANOTHER clue from Scripture is when Jesus tells us that people will be eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage. There is no day more festive for the Jewish people that then Tu B'Av festival. It is known as the "Day of Love" and similar to Valentine's Day for us. It is the most common day for the Jewish people to have their wedding on! And it's the day when the Jewish virgins go out in the fields to dance, wearing WHITE GARMENTS and DANCE and the young men would come looking for a Bride. Does this not sound like the Rapture?!?!?

And then we have the resurrection of the dead! The jewish people while wandering in the desert were according to the Midrash commanded by Moses to sleep in their graves as punishment for not believing the spies who were sent to scout out the promised land. The jewish people who slept in their graves each year would arise from their graves and discover that 15,000 of the older generation had died in the night. This continued to happen until all of the older generation had died off. Tu B'Av was celebrated because they knew that at long last they were freed from the curse of the grave and free to enter the promised land under the leadership of Joshua. We all know that the name of Jesus is derived from Joshua. I suspect we all are aware that there is a parallel between the promised land and Heaven. The land flowing with milk and honey. Tu B'Av commemorates when all the chosen people rose from their graves alive!

Someone else on the Doves website pointed out that the tribe of Benjamin was allowed to snatch brides on Tu B'Av and that the word snatched in the Septuagint is harpazo (caught up, Rapture)!

We again see in Micah 7, a hint from Scripture as to the timing of the Rapture:
What misery is mine! I am like one who gathers summer fruit at the gleaning of the vineyard; there is no cluster of grapes to eat, none of the early figs that I crave.2 The faithful have been swept from the land; not one upright person remains. And then in verse 4, Micah says, "The day God visits you has come, the day your watchmen sound the alarm. Now is the time of your confusion." In the fruit harvest, the grapes are first to ripen, so the first ripe of the grapes is the time the "good man" disappears from the earth. Micah is as the time of the Summer fruits of the GRAPE HARVESTING of the vineyard, which is the FIRST RIPE GRAPES. The FIRST RIPE GRAPES is the time of the rapture!!!

Here are 2 very interesting articles I found on the internet that point to Tu B'Av as the most symbolic of festivals for the resurrection of the dead and Rapture of the Church:


Matthew 24:38 “For as in the days that were before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark”

The 15th of Av is the most mysterious day of the Jewish calendar.
The Talmud tells us that many years ago in ancient Israel, it was the custom that on the 15th of Av "the daughters of Jerusalem would go out in borrowed linen garments... and dance in the vineyards" and "whoever did not have a wife would go there" to find himself a bride. The reason they would wear borrowed linen garments was that - those without nice clothes of their own would not be embarrassed.

The “full moon” of the tragic month of Av is the festival of the Future Redemption.
The 15th of Av this year is August 3, 2012 (Summer time)

The 15th of Av is the day where people were celebrating, eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage.

Matthew 24:32-33 “Now learn a parable of the fig tree. When his branch is yet tender and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer (is it rapture?) is nigh: so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near even at the doors”


Another article about Tu B'Av:
The harvest times of God of Barley, Wheat, and Fruit are the ones that have prophetic/spiritual significance.

The first day of the Barley harvest is when Christ rose being the “First Fruits” of those who slept”, thus making the resurrection of Christ and those that slept the prophetic fulfillment of the Barley. This eliminates the rapture of the bride being the Barley!

Then 50 days later, on the first day of the Wheat harvest, the bride of Christ was born making us the “First Fruits” of the wheat. James 1:18 tells us we are a “kind of First Fruits” of God. There are only 3 types of first fruits in in the harvests…

First Fruits of Barley, Wheat, & Grapes…

That is why it says “kind of”, because there are more than one! We, the bride, are the first fruits of the wheat because we were birthed on Pentecost which is when the first fruits of the wheat is harvested!

By scripture, we are clearly the wheat! So, the prophetic fulfillment of the Wheat harvest is only “half done”. Why?

The prophetic fulfillment of the barley harvest took “one second” with the resurrection of Christ and “those that slept”. The prophetic fulfillment of the wheat harvest is two stages….Birth of church & rapture of church!

The church first has to be born, then it takes a couple thousand years to complete the wheat so it can’t be fulfilled in a moment or day!!

So, the first half of the fulfillment of the wheat harvest is the birth of the church. The other prophetic fulfillment of the wheat harvest will be the rapture. So, we have been in the prophetic wheat harvest for 2000 plus years.

So, the prophetic wheat harvest ends with the rapture of the bride.

The last first fruits are those of the grapes. The first fruits of the grape harvest are those that have endure the great tribulation (Wrath of Lamb). The first fruit of the grapes are those that are thrown into the wine-press of his wrath (Wrath of Lamb).

The ending of the entire grape harvest is 3.5 years later on the feast of Atonement, at the seperation of the sheep/goats judgment!!!

As you can see, the bride of Christ is CLEARLY, CLEARLY the first fruit wheat of God. The timing of these agricultural harvest times pattern the “season” they actually occur in the prophetic sense. Now, this only means one thing….

The rapture of the bride of Christ (completion of wheat harvest) will happen the time they end agriculturally…the SUMMER!!!!!!!

Now, to my new insight I hope from the holy ghost….

If you look closely, the beginning and ending of the harvest times are ALL on FESTIVALS!!

Barley harvest beginning – First Fruits/Passover

Barley harvest ending – Pentecost

BOTH HOLIDAYS….

Wheat harvest beginning – Pentecost

Wheat harvest ending – Tu B’Av

BOTH HOLIDAYS….

Grape harvest beginning – Tu B’Av (This is the day when the grape harvest begins in Israel)…

The grape harvest begins when WHEAT harvest ends, just like Wheat harvest begins when Barley harvest ends!!!

If the grape harvest begins on Tu B’Av, then that is when the WHEAT HARVEST ENDS!!!!!!

Then…

Grape harvest begins – Tu B’Av

Then..Grape harvest ends on HOLIDAY AS WELL…

Which would be Atonement!!!!!!!!

All the harvest times begin and finish on HOLIDAYS!!!

The wheat harvest then ends on Tu B’Av…thus the rapture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Micah 7 supports this 100%.

It says the rapture (good man vanishes) at the “time of the first ripe grapes”. This is when the first ripe clusters of grapes off the tree are cut and this would clearly be the first day the grapes harvest begin…which is “Tu B’Av”.

Ruth married Boaz at end of wheat harvest! So, the rapture is to happen at “end” of wheat harvest…”beginning” of grape harvest which is….

“Tu B’Av”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAPTURE!!!!
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