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Will USA Drought cause next blackout?? NYT article seems to think so! Total Grid Collapse probable! Hunger Games begin now:(

 
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could be a warning or fearmongering to sell more ads. after all fear sells. the writer says worse drought in 60 years, but offers no facts to support this and worse by what degree. without some of this information it is hard to get a full picture, IMO.
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Have you been under a rock? It is widespread news that 75% of the US in a severe drought. Making headlines all over the MSM.

[link to droughtmonitor.unl.edu]
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Seems more like a public service announcement to me than a what if article


[link to www.nytimes.com]

How have u prepared? A country wide blackout in America or Canada would be incomprehesible

America collapsing in on itself .. HAARP to blame for it all????


Welcome to the new north amerikkka...
[link to www.chinasmack.com]


this is not India
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Basically the drought STOPS hydraulic action necessary to Produce ... The water dries up and the Storms and tornadoes blow away the topsoil...
Welcome to india !
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1. The electrical grid is not even comparable to that of India. Back in the day, we had some smart people design redundant systems, those systems are still in place today. They maybe old, but they still work perfectly. You ever wonder why the New York blackout or the San Diego blackout didn't cascade any further? Now you know.

2. India's power system is designed over an old British colonial system. India puts fancy new equipment in but they haven't upgraded their public utilities for so long, it's absolute fucking shit. Undersized wires because they're cheap, terrible insulation, horrid equipment, and the new equipment they install, they don't even understand themselves how it works. They need to hire some engineer from Europe or the States to do their new installations because they're clueless. If you ever been to India, you would understand. Blackouts are so common in India that almost every person has a damn generator. India spends very little money investing into roads, new utilities, sewers, etc. This disaster in India is only a small disaster that's coming upon them for neglecting everything else. They are horrible investors, they don't understand that investing into roads, businesses, utilities, etc would improve their own business. India is so corrupt, even the taxes that's supposed to go to these areas disappears into politicians pockets. You think Americans are greedy, you have no idea what greed is until you've been to India. You may think Indians are smart people, but in reality, they're hopelessly clueless and the biggest cheapskates you would ever meet. They also have a seriously hard time organizing their work force.

3. America is collapsing in on itself from overspending government that fucks everyone in the ass. Business wise, trade, manufacturing, the US and Canada will be just fine. Get rid of most of this government and watch business flourish once again as you see in most of the right to work states.
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Omg 3,666 views lol
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could be a warning or fearmongering to sell more ads. after all fear sells. the writer says worse drought in 60 years, but offers no facts to support this and worse by what degree. without some of this information it is hard to get a full picture, IMO.
 Quoting: anon2121416 8650283


Have you been under a rock? It is widespread news that 75% of the US in a severe drought. Making headlines all over the MSM.

[link to droughtmonitor.unl.edu]
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And its right in the middle of the country where alot of the food is supposed to grow.
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Re: Will USA Drought cause next blackout?? NYT article seems to think so! Total Grid Collapse probable! Hunger Games begin now:(
Thank you for bringing that article to our attention OP. I couldn't help but notice that the article was published the same day as the thread predicting the grid failure, on July 23rd.

Thread: power grid failure july 31st through second week of august.. when the lights come back on WWIII

Cheers!
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Wow Nice Catch!! bumpclappa

Same as i found someOne posting HAARP going Crazy in Calif at same time postings began about india Blackout

Like a knitted sweater ..
How far down the rabbit hole do we need to go really ..:(
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90% of the US electricity depends on a minimum level of inland river water. Go below this and..BLACKOUT!! NO FRIKKIN electricity!! If there is no coolant for the nuke reactors then there is NOTHING that can be done. NOTHING! I wish i was in the USA and I could open a nation wide chain of portable generator outlets! How does GENR8R R'Us sound
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"New carbon emissions standards can also help save water. A plan proposed by the Obama administration (requiring new power plants to emit no more than 1,000 pounds of carbon dioxide per megawatt hour generated) would encourage utilities to choose less carbon- and water-intensive fuels."

WHAT A CROCK OF LIBTARD BULLSHIT.
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Isnt it Obamas job to get this situation in order. I mean all the flak Bush got for Kathrina but this drought is probably worse in its consequences.
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Isnt it Obamas job to get this situation in order. I mean all the flak Bush got for Kathrina but this drought is probably worse in its consequences.
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Unfortunately, he is apparently trying...and I don't know if I like how it is playing out. I realize things need to be done, but I can think of other ways.

Thread: During INTENSE DROUGHT, team Obama seizing western water supplies - unprecedented legal claim to water!!!

Reservoirs in areas of rainfall, aquaducts and pipelines to places that need it. Oh and a side benefit? People will be working to build this necessary infrastructure. If this drought is going to be long lasting...we need to make long lasting plans...the above move is a band-aid, not a fix.

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Pray for Big Old Fat Rain...A-men,,,
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america will be like africa in a few years.
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I'm so glad that I am living in Puerto Rico .... and i think that I will stay here for another year.
Vegetable season
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I wonder if the earthy could be blessed with a mind that could invent a way to convert salty sea water into fuel?...
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Re: Will USA Drought cause next blackout?? NYT article seems to think so! Total Grid Collapse probable! Hunger Games begin now:(
I personally don't think it's haarp. I don't think it's Cern and the LHC. I personally think it's just good ole mother nature in one of here "cycles".

I do agree with the comments though that this is going to lead to more serious problems than what the MSM is sharing with the general population.

People get up, expect water when they go to shower for work, expect the electricity to be there, expect food at the local grocery store. All of this is at risk/threatened by this drought.

Most people don't stop to think about the long range repercussions of this if someone doesn't literally grab the sides of their head and turn them to see the writing on the wall. Actually pretty sad we are so dumbed down and distracted from something that is, in all honesty, a viable threat and a serious concern.
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its the earth changes and population the planet cannot handle.
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I wonder if the earthy could be blessed with a mind that could invent a way to convert salty sea water into fuel?...
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Nope. Not the solution. the planet is out of balance already without adding that to it. we cannot burn our water.
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...for more people to see. This is important!
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zombiessiren2

Then...? They hit them w a virus- when powers out and people r starving
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The Bible warned us this would happen. It even told us why, and how to prevent it, and how to correct it if it does happen.

People shall die due to lack of knowledge.... Oh yea, that is in there too!
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I wonder if the earthy could be blessed with a mind that could invent a way to convert salty sea water into fuel?...
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That gift came and went years ago, it has been done already!

In an oil economy, technology such as this always seems to just disappear.
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Re: Will USA Drought cause next blackout?? NYT article seems to think so! Total Grid Collapse probable! Hunger Games begin now:(
Lets look at reality for a second:
1. The US can generate 4110 TWH.
2. The US consumes 3870 TWH.
3. We steal 0.030 TWH and swap 0.015 TWH with Canada.
4. 42% of US power generation is from coal.
5. Solar and Wind is just a liberal joke.


What does this mean? We have about 6 percent spare capacity. We buy another one percent from Canada.

Because we have spare capacity we don't have frequent outages like India. However - we don't have a lot of spare capacity and Obama is shutting down the coal-fired (42%) plants for CO2 reasons.

If we reelect Obama we will have blackouts like India, if we don't we won't.

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I wonder if the earthy could be blessed with a mind that could invent a way to convert salty sea water into fuel?...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20043917


That gift came and went years ago, it has been done already!

In an oil economy, technology such as this always seems to just disappear.
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That's not exactly true. The US Navy has actually played with the idea. Seawater actually has a lot of CO2 (fish are heavy breathers). If you use an iron catalyst about 70% methane and 30% short chain hydrocarbons is produced. Short chain hydrocarbons can be processed into fuel. If your power is free it may make sense to try generating fuel.

From the paper on the subject:
"But to make a jet fuel that is properly "green", the energy-intensive electrolysis that produces the hydrogen will need to use a carbon-neutral energy source; and the complex multi-step process will always consume significantly more energy than the fuel it produces could yield. In addition, each step in the process is likely to add cost and problems."


"In an oil economy, technology such as this always seems to just disappear."
This is a gratuitous lie. Every one of these free/clean fuel ideas I've looked at have technical challenges or are inefficient (it takes more energy to make the fuel than is in the fuel). However I would love to be proven wrong and I will be... eventually.

If the Navy wanted to run their aircraft carrier reactors at 100% all the time they could probably make some fuel this way and it might kind of make sense. They have the reactor, and the sailors have free time...

If you have to pay for the power it is uneconomic.

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Re: Will USA Drought cause next blackout?? NYT article seems to think so! Total Grid Collapse probable! Hunger Games begin now:(
The hydroelectric power plants will be the first to feel the pain.

Like Hover Dam, for example...
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Doubtful,

NPP and even the Coal Powerplants are sitting mostly
on a River, they "need" Water, a Nuclear Plant would
Melt-Down without Water even when she is not
running/ working!

I think there are a few benefits for the Health Status
of the US Americaños, the Meat will be sky rocking
expensive that the majority need to avoid Beef and Pork!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom
most everyone will get on the god diet and manna that avoids beef and pork...I'm already ahead of the masses with this thread> 777 is the number of god and i am god...the things we have to do to point the israelites to the promised land,geesh..its for you to reach Christ consciousness sheeple...you either choose to evolve or the choice will be made for you...

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 08/14/2012 12:55 PM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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The hydroelectric power plants will be the first to feel the pain.

Like Hover Dam, for example...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18569383


Doubtful,

NPP and even the Coal Powerplants are sitting mostly
on a River, they "need" Water, a Nuclear Plant would
Melt-Down without Water even when she is not
running/ working!

I think there are a few benefits for the Health Status
of the US Americaños, the Meat will be sky rocking
expensive that the majority need to avoid Beef and Pork!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom
most everyone will get on the god diet and manna that avoids beef and pork...I'm already ahead of the masses with this thread> 777 is the number of god and i am god...the things we have to do to point the israelites to the promised land,geesh..
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And then you hungry religiotards will be like, It must be gods will, gods test to us to go rob these non-god-fearing heatens of their food and preparations because the bible said not to hoard.

Manna fail -> delusion ensues
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Re: Will USA Drought cause next blackout?? NYT article seems to think so! Total Grid Collapse probable! Hunger Games begin now:(
The hydroelectric power plants will be the first to feel the pain.

Like Hover Dam, for example...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18569383


Doubtful,

NPP and even the Coal Powerplants are sitting mostly
on a River, they "need" Water, a Nuclear Plant would
Melt-Down without Water even when she is not
running/ working!

I think there are a few benefits for the Health Status
of the US Americaños, the Meat will be sky rocking
expensive that the majority need to avoid Beef and Pork!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom
most everyone will get on the god diet and manna that avoids beef and pork...I'm already ahead of the masses with this thread> 777 is the number of god and i am god...the things we have to do to point the israelites to the promised land,geesh..its for you to reach Christ consciousness sheeple...you either choose to evolve or the choice will be made for you...
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg
PS,here's the revised version ,i know whats going on,I'm in on it...evolve or suffer,sheeples choice...read the thread,it explains what the "bible" really is and how your supposed to reach Christ Consciousness with the recopied bible from Egypt....after Egypt had it,the Incas had the bible.then the Mayans then the Aztecs and finally the Vatican and Mecca put their cultural spin on the names and places of the scientific metaphors..watch the video secrets of the super gods in the thread and the bricks will fall on your head knocking you conscience..there's a reason Horus and Jesus stories are similar and why a south american god was tied to an X which is a t ...

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 08/14/2012 01:06 PM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Red Alert!! Thread: CNN Transcript--Red ALERT!!Missisiippi river has DRIED UP!! What was flooded last year is GONE ENTIRELY- MAY CLOSE! NO SUPPLIES GETTING THRU!!
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Re: Will USA Drought cause next blackout?? NYT article seems to think so! Total Grid Collapse probable! Hunger Games begin now:(
This drought will only affect corn and subsidized products because you cannot grow these economically except on large swaths of land.

Any other produce can be grown quite profitably hydroponically or aeroponically. This is the future. EVERYWHERE will be able to grow.
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