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Not this shit again...

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Of course. The Sun is always moving.
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the sun does not move
the earth does.
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Of course. The Sun is always moving.
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the sun does not move
the earth does.
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Hence.. Solar System.

brilliant
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Dear Shills:

What was once a SHADE garden is now FULL SUN. The house was the provider of the shade and I can tell you for certain that it has not moved, grown or changed in any way.

You can't shill that away.


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FYi, the other night we touched a little on poleshift & solar flares... I will post once I get the transcript typed up.

What I found interesting though is when I asked about poleshift, the answer he gave had to do with magnetic poleshift ... though there was a lot of 'water' in what he saw. Also he saw this as being in the future (as in ... not soon).

But when I asked him about the next mega solar flare, he described an event on the sun that caused the earth to tilt her head to take the brunt of the blow, almost as if she knew it was coming (because she and the sun have known each other a long time and this was not the first time that this had happened.) This seemed to me like it was actually a description of (what I would have called) a poleshift... so now I'm wondering if i need to change my definition and ask again a different way, such as 'change to the axial tilt of planet earth' or 'when planet earth next shifts on her axis'. What do you think?

Also -- I think this means that the axis of the earth may change (as has happened so far with Chile EQ and Japan EQ)... but not necessarily to the degree of what people expect from the movie 2012. I know I am not the first person to post this, though I did have a snippet about it awhile back... I will try to find that post and link it here.
 Quoting: tandym


Here it is...

Thread: Globe / Armillary Vision Snippet

Last night as I was falling asleep I got an image of a globe / armilary with a 'weather vane' type iron device showing North pointing to the 'right'. I could see the North American & South American continents.

It looked like this picture (see the one at the bottom of the page next to Axial Tilt):
[link to cimss.ssec.wisc.edu]

I got the impression that it was showing me the 'new' angle for the axial tilt which doesn't look that different from what is in the picture. I know people have mentioned the number '22' before and I notice that in this picture the minimum axial tilt is 22 degrees. I wonder if this means that our poleshift will be small on a macro scale, and shift us back to 22 degrees? Anything like that for the earth would be nothing -- but would still be HUGE for those of us who live upon her surface.

But survivable compared to the idea that the earth will shift 22 degrees (instead of 1.5 degrees as I am proposing).

Excerpt from linked article:
Axial Tilt
The tilt of the Earth also changes slightly, with a dominant cycle every 41,000 years. The change in angle of inclination is only about 1° from the present tilt, from 23.5 to 24.5°. However, Earth's tilt is a critical factor in climate resulting in very large differences in solar radiation. Changes in Earth's angle with respect to the Sun often go by the name "obliquity".


These three orbital variations take place simultaneously. LIke overlapping musical tones, these cycles create resonances that are not quite the same as the original cycles. The result is that the Earth's climate is affected by these Milankovitch cycles on four different periods: 19,000, 23,000, 41,000 and 100,000 years.

Widespread acceptance of Milankovitch’s theories occurred in the decades just after his death when investigations of sea floor sediments and the Vostok ice core exhibited periodicities matching his calculations.
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 Quoting: tandym


The axis of earth has tilted to the south.
It is the only explanation that makes sense.
 Quoting: Waterbug
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So there has to be some math that I learned a long time ago (geometry or trig I suspect) to show how a small change in angle will appear to be much larger the farther away an object is... the change in arc?
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So there has to be some math that I learned a long time ago (geometry or trig I suspect) to show how a small change in angle will appear to be much larger the farther away an object is... the change in arc?
 Quoting: tandym


Exactly.
So.. that is my question.
How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing.



I tape laser pointer to my globe.. mark spot on wall..tilt globe.. mark spot.. different place. Simple.

Too many people are reporting a difference in the position of the sun.
If a shift of 6.5 inches is too insignificant to be noticed by the naked eye .. it must be more than 6.5 inches.
Judging by the weather anomalies.. significantly more.

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So there has to be some math that I learned a long time ago (geometry or trig I suspect) to show how a small change in angle will appear to be much larger the farther away an object is... the change in arc?
 Quoting: tandym


Exactly.
So.. that is my question.
How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing.



I tape laser pointer to my globe.. mark spot on wall..tilt globe.. mark spot.. different place. Simple.

Too many people are reporting a difference in the position of the sun.
If a shift of 6.5 inches is too insignificant to be noticed by the naked eye .. it must be more than 6.5 inches.
Judging by the weather anomalies.. significantly more.
 Quoting: Waterbug


You know, I remember how George Bush Jr. changed daylight savings time....what did he do, he moved it up earlier in spring, no? I have always wondered why and whether or not it is some way of masking or covering up earth changes...kind of buggering up the schedule for anyone who was keeping track...related perhaps? Who knows.
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"The essence of the independent mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks."
~ Hitchens

"A mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam."
~ Sagan

I LOVE science and I LOVE space but I am hugely skeptical and don't trust a word NASA says.
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I have a million pictures of sunsets from every place I have been.
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"Millions" of pictures of sunsets and you can't show two from the same position on the same date in two different years which show what you claim has happened?
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So there has to be some math that I learned a long time ago (geometry or trig I suspect) to show how a small change in angle will appear to be much larger the farther away an object is... the change in arc?
 Quoting: tandym


Exactly.
So.. that is my question.
How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing.

 Quoting: Waterbug


You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing. Not bloody likely, now is it?
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So there has to be some math that I learned a long time ago (geometry or trig I suspect) to show how a small change in angle will appear to be much larger the farther away an object is... the change in arc?
 Quoting: tandym


Exactly.
So.. that is my question.
How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing.

 Quoting: Waterbug


You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing. Not bloody likely, now is it?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200




Let's hear your explanation..
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So there has to be some math that I learned a long time ago (geometry or trig I suspect) to show how a small change in angle will appear to be much larger the farther away an object is... the change in arc?
 Quoting: tandym


Exactly.
So.. that is my question.
How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing.

 Quoting: Waterbug


You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing. Not bloody likely, now is it?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200




Let's hear your explanation..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Explanation for what- that there are people who think they remember the sun setting in a different place? People are often wrong when guessing about a thing like that. Astronomers are not.
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So there has to be some math that I learned a long time ago (geometry or trig I suspect) to show how a small change in angle will appear to be much larger the farther away an object is... the change in arc?
 Quoting: tandym


Exactly.
So.. that is my question.
How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing.

 Quoting: Waterbug


You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing. Not bloody likely, now is it?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200




Let's hear your explanation..
 Quoting: Waterbug


How about answering MY question?
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The axis of earth has tilted to the south.
It is the only explanation that makes sense.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Actually, that makes no sense at all to anyone who knows the first thing about astronomy.
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Just google "Is the sun setting more north" and you will see a lot of people are noticing this since 2007. Yes the seasons affect this but farmers plant by the seasons, so why would they notice ?
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Just google "Elvis is alive" and you will see a lot of people who have noticed Elvis wandering about. Guess that makes it true, right?
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the sun rises and sets at different location from season to season [and it rinses and repeats every year]...next time prove it with pic of last year then this year taken on same date and same hour at same exact location.... it will be more helpful to your case...but yes! the sun and its planets/galaxy is moving /traveling thru space -- not a sitting duck in space.
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I am scouring my pics to see if I have any taken exactly 364 days apart.

I will take a pic of tonight's sunset and will report back to you on August 1st, 2013.

:)
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No, you won't, because it will prove you wrong. Or... you will say that the pic shows a TIIIINY change and claim that it proves your claim of a LAAARGE change true.
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Where's ASTRO MUTT. Where's his take on this. Can a house or a garden be moved or not. LOL
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The Sun/Moon irregularities, and weather changes, are what inspired me to research alternative news sites like this.

I've been an amateur astronomer, since a school project on the constellations in grade 2.

Back when I lived in New York, I had many tall buildings to guage from. To me, it was more drastic between 2000 - 2003. The moon was severely erratic. Never on the path it should have been. Facing north from Brooklyn, you could see the Sun set over different buildings, nightly. There was no clear path, just erratic.

When I moved to Canada, I had a balcony that faced west, to the Niagara Escarptment. That's where I gained all my evidence. I had a clear view to the most beautiful sunsets, and took many pictures. I have photos from 2004 - 2007, that show the Sun's northward progression. There are many features on that escarptment, to guage from.

Now that I live downtown Toronto, I don't have a clear view of the Sun & Moon. However, I notice that I have to shift plants daily. I face south & have to shift my plants clockwise, to the right, bit by bit.

Is anybody else, having an amazing grow year? Beets & onions, are early matured. Don't bring in the tomato plants- they're loving the light. Next year's solar maximum should be amazing for veg.
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North Star points north or does it now? North has moved too.
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SOOO easy to check, but none of you 'skytards' will ever do it.
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The Sun always moves.
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The people who think the Sun is out of place are usually the ones who don't know it moves, like you.

The Sun orbits the Galaxy, just as Earth orbits the Sun. The Sun is constantly moving, while the planets follow behind.

The solar system model you were taught in school is inaccurate because it depicts the Sun being stationary.

Of course. The Sun is always moving.
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the sun does not move
the earth does.
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Load of shit.

I live in a building downtown with a rooftop.

I've watched almost every sunset for 2+ years and it goes down in the SAME PLACE every time.

Thats why I think Suntards are retarded. I pay close attention, I even have hundreds of pictures. It's the exact same.

The Sun/Moon irregularities, and weather changes, are what inspired me to research alternative news sites like this.

I've been an amateur astronomer, since a school project on the constellations in grade 2.

Back when I lived in New York, I had many tall buildings to guage from. To me, it was more drastic between 2000 - 2003. The moon was severely erratic. Never on the path it should have been. Facing north from Brooklyn, you could see the Sun set over different buildings, nightly. There was no clear path, just erratic.

When I moved to Canada, I had a balcony that faced west, to the Niagara Escarptment. That's where I gained all my evidence. I had a clear view to the most beautiful sunsets, and took many pictures. I have photos from 2004 - 2007, that show the Sun's northward progression. There are many features on that escarptment, to guage from.

Now that I live downtown Toronto, I don't have a clear view of the Sun & Moon. However, I notice that I have to shift plants daily. I face south & have to shift my plants clockwise, to the right, bit by bit.

Is anybody else, having an amazing grow year? Beets & onions, are early matured. Don't bring in the tomato plants- they're loving the light. Next year's solar maximum should be amazing for veg.
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The Sun/Moon irregularities, and weather changes, are what inspired me to research alternative news sites like this.

I've been an amateur astronomer, since a school project on the constellations in grade 2.

Back when I lived in New York, I had many tall buildings to guage from. To me, it was more drastic between 2000 - 2003. The moon was severely erratic. Never on the path it should have been. Facing north from Brooklyn, you could see the Sun set over different buildings, nightly. There was no clear path, just erratic.

When I moved to Canada, I had a balcony that faced west, to the Niagara Escarptment. That's where I gained all my evidence. I had a clear view to the most beautiful sunsets, and took many pictures. I have photos from 2004 - 2007, that show the Sun's northward progression. There are many features on that escarptment, to guage from.

Now that I live downtown Toronto, I don't have a clear view of the Sun & Moon. However, I notice that I have to shift plants daily. I face south & have to shift my plants clockwise, to the right, bit by bit.

Is anybody else, having an amazing grow year? Beets & onions, are early matured. Don't bring in the tomato plants- they're loving the light. Next year's solar maximum should be amazing for veg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3468845


Bullshit.

Waiting for you to show dated pics from the same location in different years. The Katcam archives are available and show no such change.
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You are absolutely correct OP...I have a new inside source that works at Mawson Station in the Antarctic, he confirmed for me two days ago that they have recorded the axis shift and are now experiencing sun and moon rise at much different coordinates than previously recorded.

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Just google "Is the sun setting more north" and you will see a lot of people are noticing this since 2007. Yes the seasons affect this but farmers plant by the seasons, so why would they notice ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907170


Just google "Elvis is alive" and you will see a lot of people who have noticed Elvis wandering about. Guess that makes it true, right?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


'Elvis is alive'__ unless he is making a statement.

Ridicule is futile.

Do you have an opinion of your own..?
I am using common sense to form an opinion..
What do you use..?
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Just google "Is the sun setting more north" and you will see a lot of people are noticing this since 2007. Yes the seasons affect this but farmers plant by the seasons, so why would they notice ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907170


Just google "Elvis is alive" and you will see a lot of people who have noticed Elvis wandering about. Guess that makes it true, right?
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'Elvis is alive'__ unless he is making a statement.

Ridicule is futile.

Do you have an opinion of your own..?
I am using common sense to form an opinion..
What do you use..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Feel free to outline how you have allegedly used "common sense" in this matter.
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the sun rises and sets at different location from season to season [and it rinses and repeats every year]...next time prove it with pic of last year then this year taken on same date and same hour at same exact location.... it will be more helpful to your case...but yes! the sun and its planets/galaxy is moving /traveling thru space -- not a sitting duck in space.
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I am scouring my pics to see if I have any taken exactly 364 days apart.

I will take a pic of tonight's sunset and will report back to you on August 1st, 2013.

:)
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick


No, you won't, because it will prove you wrong. Or... you will say that the pic shows a TIIIINY change and claim that it proves your claim of a LAAARGE change true.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Hey I am not out to be "RIGHT"...Hope I'm not. I don't stand to gain anything by proving myself right or wrong either way.

One thing is certain, the sun is shining on a little spot of ground that it didn't shine on before. I am not making this up for any reason what so ever.
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~ Hitchens

"The essence of the independent mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks."
~ Hitchens

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~ Sagan

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