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Have You Noticed The Sun Has "Moved"? Post Your Evidence / Stories Here!

 
Menow
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The words are mine. I can type.

The information, including the facts and figures.. including metric measurements.. comes from published scientific papers and articles from physics publications.
I could have linked them.. but where's the fun in that..?

You would probably not have disputed the information.. as it is.. you did.. exposing your scientific ignorance.tard



The fact that you dispute this information and attempt to attribute ignorance on my part.. is laughable.laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


You're misrepresenting and you're lying. No one disputed the information.

This thread could have been an intelligent conversation. Instead, it turned into a bash-the-poster campaign.. to discredit me and any poster willing to state their observations.
 Quoting: Waterbug


You are attempting to fool people by pretending that what you present supports the idea that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky. It does not. You are a shill in the true meaning of the word.

Now.. unless the thread is erased by mods.. anyone who reads it will see those of you who have engaged in this distasteful and rude discourse.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Anyone who reads this will see that you have presented ZERO concrete evidence that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky.

Say whatever you want to about me. I don't care.chuckle
I'm a big boy. I can take it.

With every post, you boneheads reveal your true colors.. and I'm not the only person who can see what they are.

:salute:
 Quoting: Waterbug


So do you have any evidence that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky? Apparently not, since you are attempting to substitute other things for that. It's obvious you are trying to pull a fast one, here.
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Hey TBar, would you please explain why the Tropic of Capricorn bobs between 22 and 24 degrees over time.
If the sun is where it is supposed to be, this wouldn't happen, right?

---snip---
The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of the Earth. It currently (Epoch 2012) lies 23° 26′ 16″ [1] south of the Equator.
It is currently drifting north at the rate of almost half a second (0.47″) of latitude, which is about 15 metres, per year (it was at exactly 23° 27' S in year 1917).[2]
---snip---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Still no answer, TBar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
puppy
Menow
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Hey TBar, would you please explain why the Tropic of Capricorn bobs between 22 and 24 degrees over time.
If the sun is where it is supposed to be, this wouldn't happen, right?

---snip---
The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of the Earth. It currently (Epoch 2012) lies 23° 26′ 16″ [1] south of the Equator.
It is currently drifting north at the rate of almost half a second (0.47″) of latitude, which is about 15 metres, per year (it was at exactly 23° 27' S in year 1917).[2]
---snip---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


Still no answer, TBar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
Menow
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Hey TBar, would you please explain why the Tropic of Capricorn bobs between 22 and 24 degrees over time.
If the sun is where it is supposed to be, this wouldn't happen, right?

---snip---
The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of the Earth. It currently (Epoch 2012) lies 23° 26′ 16″ [1] south of the Equator.
It is currently drifting north at the rate of almost half a second (0.47″) of latitude, which is about 15 metres, per year (it was at exactly 23° 27' S in year 1917).[2]
---snip---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


Still no answer, TBar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
:puppy:
 Quoting: Waterbug


Still no answer on whether you can support the claim that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky?
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Hey TBar, would you please explain why the Tropic of Capricorn bobs between 22 and 24 degrees over time.
If the sun is where it is supposed to be, this wouldn't happen, right?

---snip---
The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of the Earth. It currently (Epoch 2012) lies 23° 26′ 16″ [1] south of the Equator.
It is currently drifting north at the rate of almost half a second (0.47″) of latitude, which is about 15 metres, per year (it was at exactly 23° 27' S in year 1917).[2]
---snip---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


Still no answer, TBar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
:puppy:
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1rof1
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Hey TBar, would you please explain why the Tropic of Capricorn bobs between 22 and 24 degrees over time.
If the sun is where it is supposed to be, this wouldn't happen, right?

---snip---
The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of the Earth. It currently (Epoch 2012) lies 23° 26′ 16″ [1] south of the Equator.
It is currently drifting north at the rate of almost half a second (0.47″) of latitude, which is about 15 metres, per year (it was at exactly 23° 27' S in year 1917).[2]
---snip---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


Still no answer, TBar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
:puppy:
 Quoting: Waterbug


Still no answer on whether you can support the claim that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Give it up menow. 'cause trying is the first step towards failure...
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Still no answer, TBar?
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He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
:puppy:
 Quoting: Waterbug


Still no answer on whether you can support the claim that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Give it up menow. 'cause trying is the first step towards failure...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Actually, I have been quite successful in demonstrating that Waterbug won't present anything which truly supports the claim of this thread. He can only misrepresent.
Menow
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Hey TBar, would you please explain why the Tropic of Capricorn bobs between 22 and 24 degrees over time.
If the sun is where it is supposed to be, this wouldn't happen, right?

---snip---
The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of the Earth. It currently (Epoch 2012) lies 23° 26′ 16″ [1] south of the Equator.
It is currently drifting north at the rate of almost half a second (0.47″) of latitude, which is about 15 metres, per year (it was at exactly 23° 27' S in year 1917).[2]
---snip---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


Still no answer, TBar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
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So, no answer 21389207?
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This is such bullshit Menow, that you'd come in here and pick apart these posts without giving answers, just claiming it is "anecdotal". Sorry but most of us do not live in a laboratory or have the ability to have our observations peer reviewed. You are obviously here to stir the pot and discredit honest observations.

You sir are a shill.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick


1)You should look up the definition of the word "shill".

2)You should look up the definition of the word "anecdotal".

3)How do you expect anyone to know anything about the physical orientation of this woman's house or the landmarks around it in order to answer those questions? How?!

4)I have given the URL to a site which will show where the sun should rise for her area. Why doesn't she USE it? Why don't YOU?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


So... chick... no response?

3)How do you expect anyone to know anything about the physical orientation of this woman's house or the landmarks around it in order to answer those questions? How?!

4)I have given the URL to a site which will show where the sun should rise for her area. Why doesn't she USE it? Why don't YOU?
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Still no answer, TBar?
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He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
:puppy:
 Quoting: Waterbug


Still no answer on whether you can support the claim that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Give it up menow. 'cause trying is the first step towards failure...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


I think Waterbug should stop with the disinfo. Muliple times it has been asked for proof that the Sun is out of place and multiple times they have posted information irrelevant to the topic at hand and question.
Stop derailing the thread and try the simple task of proving it, there are links on the thread that will aid in finding the answer.
Menow
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Hey TBar, would you please explain why the Tropic of Capricorn bobs between 22 and 24 degrees over time.
If the sun is where it is supposed to be, this wouldn't happen, right?

---snip---
The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of the Earth. It currently (Epoch 2012) lies 23° 26′ 16″ [1] south of the Equator.
It is currently drifting north at the rate of almost half a second (0.47″) of latitude, which is about 15 metres, per year (it was at exactly 23° 27' S in year 1917).[2]
---snip---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


Still no answer, TBar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
:puppy:
 Quoting: Waterbug


1rof1
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I'd love to see either of you dufuses match wits with TBar on astronomy. It would be hilarious!
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He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
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Still no answer on whether you can support the claim that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Give it up menow. 'cause trying is the first step towards failure...
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Actually, I have been quite successful in demonstrating that Waterbug won't present anything which truly supports the claim of this thread. He can only misrepresent.
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Successful??? Not from my point of view...
I would say he's very good in backing up his claims. And he's right.
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Still no answer, TBar?
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He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
:puppy:
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1rof1
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I'd love to see either of you dufuses match wits with TBar on astronomy. It would be hilarious!
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Are you paid per post??? Otherwise I wouldn't get the count of your posts...

tounge
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The words are mine. I can type.

The information, including the facts and figures.. including metric measurements.. comes from published scientific papers and articles from physics publications.
I could have linked them.. but where's the fun in that..?

You would probably not have disputed the information.. as it is.. you did.. exposing your scientific ignorance.tard



The fact that you dispute this information and attempt to attribute ignorance on my part.. is laughable.laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


You're misrepresenting and you're lying. No one disputed the information.

This thread could have been an intelligent conversation. Instead, it turned into a bash-the-poster campaign.. to discredit me and any poster willing to state their observations.
 Quoting: Waterbug


You are attempting to fool people by pretending that what you present supports the idea that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky. It does not. You are a shill in the true meaning of the word.

Now.. unless the thread is erased by mods.. anyone who reads it will see those of you who have engaged in this distasteful and rude discourse.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Anyone who reads this will see that you have presented ZERO concrete evidence that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky.

Say whatever you want to about me. I don't care.chuckle
I'm a big boy. I can take it.

With every post, you boneheads reveal your true colors.. and I'm not the only person who can see what they are.

salute
 Quoting: Waterbug


So do you have any evidence that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky? Apparently not, since you are attempting to substitute other things for that. It's obvious you are trying to pull a fast one, here.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Hey TBar, would you please explain why the Tropic of Capricorn bobs between 22 and 24 degrees over time.
If the sun is where it is supposed to be, this wouldn't happen, right?

---snip---
The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of the Earth. It currently (Epoch 2012) lies 23° 26′ 16″ [1] south of the Equator.
It is currently drifting north at the rate of almost half a second (0.47″) of latitude, which is about 15 metres, per year (it was at exactly 23° 27' S in year 1917).[2]
---snip---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


Still no answer, TBar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
puppy
 Quoting: Waterbug


Still no answer on whether you can support the claim that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Let's address the issue of your using the phrase, ' RADICALLY out of place'..

AFAIK without rereading..you are the only person to use that phrase. The post was, 'The sun has moved'.
Why is that..?
And, to emphasize that word.. you capitalized it..
Trying a little child psychology...?

So... you agree that the sun has moved.. it just hasn't moved 'RADICALLY'...? Hmmm...?

You just aren't very bright, are you..?

dumbass
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He's waiting for instructions on how to proceed..
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1rof1
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I'd love to see either of you dufuses match wits with TBar on astronomy. It would be hilarious!
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Are you paid per post??? Otherwise I wouldn't get the count of your posts...

tounge
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Are you paid to sidetrack people from the central question? The central question is whether the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky. Repeat: Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
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Hey TBar, would you please explain why the Tropic of Capricorn bobs between 22 and 24 degrees over time.
If the sun is where it is supposed to be, this wouldn't happen, right?

---snip---
The Tropic of Capricorn is one of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of the Earth. It currently (Epoch 2012) lies 23° 26′ 16″ [1] south of the Equator.
It is currently drifting north at the rate of almost half a second (0.47″) of latitude, which is about 15 metres, per year (it was at exactly 23° 27' S in year 1917).[2]
---snip---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


Still no answer, TBar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


So, no answer 21389207?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


I'm not claiming anything. I just believe what I see with my own eyes. And: yes, the sun is out of place. And it's more than just 0.5 degrees.
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1rof1
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I'd love to see either of you dufuses match wits with TBar on astronomy. It would be hilarious!
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Are you paid per post??? Otherwise I wouldn't get the count of your posts...

tounge
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Are you paid to sidetrack people from the central question? The central question is whether the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky. Repeat: Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Sidetracking???

Oh, well. YOU're the right person to ask that question.

cruise
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Let's address the issue of your using the phrase, ' RADICALLY out of place'..

AFAIK without rereading..you are the only person to use that phrase. The post was, 'The sun has moved'.
Why is that..?
And, to emphasize that word.. you capitalized it..
Trying a little child psychology...?

So... you agree that the sun has moved.. it just hasn't moved 'RADICALLY'...? Hmmm...?

You just aren't very bright, are you..?

dumbass
 Quoting: Waterbug


And STILL you dodge the question and attempt to divert attention. The claim is that the sun has "moved" a LOT.

"So... you agree that the sun has moved.."

The sun "moves" all the time. You are attempting to divert attention from the central claim, which is that the sun is in a RADICALLY abnormal place in the sky. Enough so that people can EASILY see it by eye. No such thing has happened. There multiple MINOR changes in Earth's axis, etc, which are quite normal. You are attempting to fool people with references to those. You are a shill for the "SUN OUT OF PLACE CULT".

You are only fooling those who are ignorant of astronomy and vulnerable to this sort of nonsense. Shame on you.
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I'd love to see either of you dufuses match wits with TBar on astronomy. It would be hilarious!
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Are you paid per post??? Otherwise I wouldn't get the count of your posts...

tounge
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Are you paid to sidetrack people from the central question? The central question is whether the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky. Repeat: Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Sidetracking???

Oh, well. YOU're the right person to ask that question.

cruise
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Still dodging the question, I see. Repeat: Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
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1rof1
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I'd love to see either of you dufuses match wits with TBar on astronomy. It would be hilarious!
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Are you paid per post??? Otherwise I wouldn't get the count of your posts...

tounge
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Are you paid to sidetrack people from the central question? The central question is whether the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky. Repeat: Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Menow, hurry up!!! Here's the next threat yyou can jump on. This time it's the moon that's out of place:
Thread: Question about Moon's orbit.
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Greetings to all.

I am a skeptic by nature. Large. When I saw YouTube vids about 4 years ago claiming the sun is setting farther north than same time the year previous, I dismissed it. I saw nothing of the sort. I like to see things like this with my own eyes if I am going to believe it.

I love sunsets. I have a million pictures of sunsets from every place I have been. The way the sky paints itself in unreplicable colours and shades has amazed me since I was a little girl. I particularly love the sunsets through my living room windows, which face due west.

Two years ago I remarked to my husband that the sun appeared to be setting slightly more north than it had they years prior. I noticed this from the positions I would have to take in order to capture a great backyard sunset shot. Some trees presented as visual obstacles when they weren't before. I thought about those videos with a little more interest, and read a little bit about some claims of the sun's movement, but once again put the thought at the back of my mind.

Well this year did it for me. I have a small shade garden on the north end of my house. There are hedges and a shed and of course the house, all of which have provided adequate shade for sun shy hostas, pulmonaria, lamium and impatients. At night it is very dark and I have never been able to successfully use solar path lights because the area never got enough sun to provide a good charge. THIS YEAR is different!!! There is a clear patch of almost all-day sun in an area that was always shaded. My shade-dwelling perennials are burning and shriveling. I could very easily tap a solar path light in there that could charge basically all day long providing good night light. WTF IS GOING ON???

Yes friends, this to me is 100% proof that the sun is farther north in the sky than it has been in previous years. Why won't the mainstream acknowledge this? I have recenlyt seen video of aboriginal peoples in different parts of the world who attest to the sun's movement. Can we get some scientific acknowledgement, please??

Please post your personal evidence / stories here, would love to learn more about what others are experiencing.

Thanks and hf
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You obviously didnt take enough science in school.
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Let's address the issue of your using the phrase, ' RADICALLY out of place'..

AFAIK without rereading..you are the only person to use that phrase. The post was, 'The sun has moved'.
Why is that..?
And, to emphasize that word.. you capitalized it..
Trying a little child psychology...?

So... you agree that the sun has moved.. it just hasn't moved 'RADICALLY'...? Hmmm...?

You just aren't very bright, are you..?

dumbass
 Quoting: Waterbug




You are only fooling those who are ignorant of astronomy and vulnerable to this sort of nonsense. Shame on you.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Nonsense..? Really...?

Considering the fact that I purposefully used only information from scientific publications to back up my opinion.. maybe you should take it up with the scientists who published the papers..

Shame on you.. for blaming me.
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Still no answer, TBar?
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Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


So, no answer 21389207?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


I'm not claiming anything. I just believe what I see with my own eyes. And: yes, the sun is out of place. And it's more than just 0.5 degrees.
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Oh... sorry. I didn't see this. Now....Why are you making a reference to the above, which speaks of a TINY LOOONG term variation in the Tropic of Capricorn. How does that relate to your claim that the sun is out of place by more than 0.5 degrees?

"I'm not claiming anything."

Clearly you are. Now it remains for you to be SPECIFIC and show SPECIFIC evidence. You have none. How much do you claim the sun is out of place? Please be SPECIFIC. If you can't, then you are just blowing smoke.
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Let's address the issue of your using the phrase, ' RADICALLY out of place'..

AFAIK without rereading..you are the only person to use that phrase. The post was, 'The sun has moved'.
Why is that..?
And, to emphasize that word.. you capitalized it..
Trying a little child psychology...?

So... you agree that the sun has moved.. it just hasn't moved 'RADICALLY'...? Hmmm...?

You just aren't very bright, are you..?

dumbass
 Quoting: Waterbug




You are only fooling those who are ignorant of astronomy and vulnerable to this sort of nonsense. Shame on you.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Nonsense..? Really...?

Considering the fact that I purposefully used only information from scientific publications to back up my opinion.. maybe you should take it up with the scientists who published the papers..

Shame on you.. for blaming me.
 Quoting: Waterbug


No one said the papers were wrong. What is wrong is that you are attempting to pass them off as evidence that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky.

Once again: Do you believe that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky and can you offer ANY concrete evidence in support of that?
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Still no answer, TBar?
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Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
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So, no answer 21389207?
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I'm not claiming anything. I just believe what I see with my own eyes. And: yes, the sun is out of place. And it's more than just 0.5 degrees.
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So the images from Katcam and the yearly passing of the Manhattanhenge phenomenon proving that the sun is exactly where it belongs are what... fake? The world's astronomers are not saying anything about this because of what... they are ALL being "controlled"?
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08/06/2012 11:35 AM

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Let's address the issue of your using the phrase, ' RADICALLY out of place'..

AFAIK without rereading..you are the only person to use that phrase. The post was, 'The sun has moved'.
Why is that..?
And, to emphasize that word.. you capitalized it..
Trying a little child psychology...?

So... you agree that the sun has moved.. it just hasn't moved 'RADICALLY'...? Hmmm...?

You just aren't very bright, are you..?

dumbass
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You are only fooling those who are ignorant of astronomy and vulnerable to this sort of nonsense. Shame on you.
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Nonsense..? Really...?

Considering the fact that I purposefully used only information from scientific publications to back up my opinion.. maybe you should take it up with the scientists who published the papers..

Shame on you.. for blaming me.
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No one said the papers were wrong. What is wrong is that you are attempting to pass them off as evidence that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky.

Once again: Do you believe that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky and can you offer ANY concrete evidence in support of that?
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I never said it was 'RADICALLY' out of place.. you did.

I said the earth axis has tilted enough that the average person is noticing the change.. then I backed that opinion up with scientific information..

Are you really that dense...?

This has been slightly amusing until now.
I've made my case..
I've grown very weary of your inferences and insults.

gofuckyourself

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08/06/2012 11:44 AM
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Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


So, no answer 21389207?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


I'm not claiming anything. I just believe what I see with my own eyes. And: yes, the sun is out of place. And it's more than just 0.5 degrees.
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Oh... sorry. I didn't see this. Now....Why are you making a reference to the above, which speaks of a TINY LOOONG term variation in the Tropic of Capricorn. How does that relate to your claim that the sun is out of place by more than 0.5 degrees?

"I'm not claiming anything."

Clearly you are. Now it remains for you to be SPECIFIC and show SPECIFIC evidence. You have none. How much do you claim the sun is out of place? Please be SPECIFIC. If you can't, then you are just blowing smoke.
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No, Sir. You are wrong and you obviously can't read. Wikipedia is claiming this!!!
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You are only fooling those who are ignorant of astronomy and vulnerable to this sort of nonsense. Shame on you.
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Nonsense..? Really...?

Considering the fact that I purposefully used only information from scientific publications to back up my opinion.. maybe you should take it up with the scientists who published the papers..

Shame on you.. for blaming me.
 Quoting: Waterbug


No one said the papers were wrong. What is wrong is that you are attempting to pass them off as evidence that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky.

Once again: Do you believe that the sun is RADICALLY out of place in the sky and can you offer ANY concrete evidence in support of that?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


I never said it was 'RADICALLY' out of place.. you did.
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You're lying again. I said no such thing.

I said the earth axis has tilted enough that the average person is noticing the change.. then I backed that opinion up with scientific information..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yes, you said that. NO, you did not back it up with any scientific evidence of any change of that magnitude. You are attempting to pass off TINY, NORMAL fluctuations as something abnormal which people can see by eye. You are being dishonest.

Are you really that dense...?
 Quoting: Waterbug


I'm not dense at all. That's why I can see right through the subterfuge in which you are engaged.

This has been slightly amusing until now.
I've made my case..
 Quoting: Waterbug


You have made a case for being a shill for the "SUN OUT OF PLACE" cult. Nothing more.


I've grown very weary of your inferences and insults.

:gofuckyourself:

:voyager:
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Oh... you think I'm merely inferring something? Allow me to spell it out clearly. You are a DISINFO agent, bent on instilling fear in gullible people through the misrepresentation of information. You are a nasty, despicable Human Being for doing such things. There... clear enough for you?
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So, no answer 21389207?
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I'm not claiming anything. I just believe what I see with my own eyes. And: yes, the sun is out of place. And it's more than just 0.5 degrees.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Oh... sorry. I didn't see this. Now....Why are you making a reference to the above, which speaks of a TINY LOOONG term variation in the Tropic of Capricorn. How does that relate to your claim that the sun is out of place by more than 0.5 degrees?

"I'm not claiming anything."

Clearly you are. Now it remains for you to be SPECIFIC and show SPECIFIC evidence. You have none. How much do you claim the sun is out of place? Please be SPECIFIC. If you can't, then you are just blowing smoke.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


No, Sir. You are wrong and you obviously can't read. Wikipedia is claiming this!!!
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You're lying. You are claiming that the sun is out of place enough for people to see and that Wiki supports that notion. It does not. Repeat: How much do you claim the sun is out of place? Please be SPECIFIC. If you can't, then you are just blowing smoke.
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Just curious... are you claiming that people are seeing the sun being 1/2 degree out of place in the sky?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


So, no answer 21389207?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


I'm not claiming anything. I just believe what I see with my own eyes. And: yes, the sun is out of place. And it's more than just 0.5 degrees.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


So the images from Katcam and the yearly passing of the Manhattanhenge phenomenon proving that the sun is exactly where it belongs are what... fake? The world's astronomers are not saying anything about this because of what... they are ALL being "controlled"?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150

PS: I don't give a shit about Katcam and Manhattanhenge (WTF is a Manhattanhenge??? Can I eat it???).

And for the astronomers: They would loose their job or suddenly die if they would speak about it. Just like Gene Shoemaker, Harrington, etc. pp.

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