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Have You Noticed The Sun Has "Moved"? Post Your Evidence / Stories Here!

 
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You don't understand that there are tens of thousands of amateur astronomers all around the world? Seriously??
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Most of whom are guided and instructed in how to operate their equipment by 'experts'. They can't figure anything out independently by their own merits...

Your statement has no value. Try again.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I'm not sure a word has been invented which could adequately describe the stupidity of what you just said. Only the terminally paranoid could believe such a thing.
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You don't understand that there are tens of thousands of amateur astronomers all around the world? Seriously??
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You don't have to shout: I know that there are tens of thousands of retards. Just like you.
But they would be ridiculed very fast, just like you try to ridicule me. And 9999 out of 10000 live in fear of that.
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They're here....

Ganging up. chuckle
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep. They always come in herds when they are driven into a corner.

rockon
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You don't understand that there are tens of thousands of amateur astronomers all around the world? Seriously??
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


You don't have to shout: I know that there are tens of thousands of retards. Just like you.
But they would be ridiculed very fast, just like you try to ridicule me. And 9999 out of 10000 live in fear of that.
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Go to ANY astronomy club, in any city in the world, and tell them they are mindless controlled retards. I DARE you. Heh.
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This is such bullshit Menow, that you'd come in here and pick apart these posts without giving answers, just claiming it is "anecdotal". Sorry but most of us do not live in a laboratory or have the ability to have our observations peer reviewed. You are obviously here to stir the pot and discredit honest observations.

You sir are a shill.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick


1)You should look up the definition of the word "shill".

2)You should look up the definition of the word "anecdotal".

3)How do you expect anyone to know anything about the physical orientation of this woman's house or the landmarks around it in order to answer those questions? How?!

4)I have given the URL to a site which will show where the sun should rise for her area. Why doesn't she USE it? Why don't YOU?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


So... chick... no response?

3)How do you expect anyone to know anything about the physical orientation of this woman's house or the landmarks around it in order to answer those questions? How?!

4)I have given the URL to a site which will show where the sun should rise for her area. Why doesn't she USE it? Why don't YOU?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Well, chick?

3)How do you expect anyone to know anything about the physical orientation of this woman's house or the landmarks around it in order to answer those questions? How?!

4)I have given the URL to a site which will show where the sun should rise for her area. Why doesn't she USE it? Why don't YOU?
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08/06/2012 12:46 PM

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Why do the disinfo shills keep refusing to measure the position of the Sun?
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Just because it is the truth.
 Quoting: German Coward 21389207

How can you know that without testing it?

You can deny it your whole life, but it is still the truth.
 Quoting: German Coward 21389207

Then why can't you proof it?
book
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They're here....

Ganging up. chuckle
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep. They always come in herds when they are driven into a corner.

rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Don't they realize how bad that makes them look to anyone with discernment..?
I understand the need for it.. most people can't handle the truth.
Oh well...

The tactics have worked to some degree. Nobody wants to be ridiculed..

But.. they don't know me very well..

Shill away mother-feckers.. bright

I fart in your general direction. laugh
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Why do the disinfo shills keep refusing to measure the position of the Sun?
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Just because it is the truth.
 Quoting: German Coward 21389207

How can you know that without testing it?

You can deny it your whole life, but it is still the truth.
 Quoting: German Coward 21389207

Then why can't you proof it?
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Hey Retard,
last summer I measured 8 to 10 degrees, varying from day to day. That's proof enough for myself.

What about your proof that the sun ist NOT out of place?
How do you explain the melting in greenland?
How do you explain the animal die offs?
How do you explain the DUMBs and ghost cities?
How do you explain the heating of the other planets?
etc, pp, the WTF-List goes on and on...
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They're here....

Ganging up. chuckle
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep. They always come in herds when they are driven into a corner.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Don't they realize how bad that makes them look to anyone with discernment..?
I understand the need for it.. most people can't handle the truth.
Oh well...

The tactics have worked to some degree. Nobody wants to be ridiculed..

But.. they don't know me very well..

Shill away mother-feckers.. :bright:

I fart in your general direction. laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


And STILL you avoid spelling out how much you claim the sun is out of place.
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They're here....

Ganging up. chuckle
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep. They always come in herds when they are driven into a corner.

rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Don't they realize how bad that makes them look to anyone with discernment..?
I understand the need for it.. most people can't handle the truth.
Oh well...

The tactics have worked to some degree. Nobody wants to be ridiculed..

But.. they don't know me very well..

Shill away mother-feckers.. :bright:

I fart in your general direction. laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yeah, they make themselfs lookalike Homer Simpson.

And for the sheeps: it's a 'hard to handle' truth but things will get really ugly really fast. So it's better to get over it... very soon.

I'm not so concerned about gettin' ridiculed. I'm more concerned about living in a vast lie.

But the veil is lifting faster every day:
[link to i1184.photobucket.com]
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They're here....

Ganging up. chuckle
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep. They always come in herds when they are driven into a corner.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Don't they realize how bad that makes them look to anyone with discernment..?
I understand the need for it.. most people can't handle the truth.
Oh well...

The tactics have worked to some degree. Nobody wants to be ridiculed..

But.. they don't know me very well..

Shill away mother-feckers.. :bright:

I fart in your general direction. laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


And STILL you avoid spelling out how much you claim the sun is out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get over it, idiot: 8 to 10 degrees...
Menow
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This is from her original post..

Two years ago I remarked to my husband that the sun appeared to be setting slightly more north than it had they years prior. I noticed this from the positions I would have to take in order to capture a great backyard sunset shot.



Who is disingenuous..?
You are apparently retarded.

I rest my case.

Hoisted with your own petard.. chuckle

:turd:
 Quoting: Waterbug


"There is a clear patch of almost all-day sun in an area that was always shaded."

Nice cherry-picking. That quote, and what others have said on this thread, is a claim of MANY degrees of deviation. Furthermore, ANY change visible by eye would be a RADICAL deviation, astronomically speaking, yet you continue to post tidbits showing variations which are several orders of magnitude too small to be seen by eye. How droll.

Care to try again? How much do YOU claim the sun is out of place? In degrees, please.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


So you refuse to state anything specific and then support it with concrete evidence? Telling, that. It's much easier to dance around and post irrelevant things, hmm?
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Yep. They always come in herds when they are driven into a corner.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Don't they realize how bad that makes them look to anyone with discernment..?
I understand the need for it.. most people can't handle the truth.
Oh well...

The tactics have worked to some degree. Nobody wants to be ridiculed..

But.. they don't know me very well..

Shill away mother-feckers.. :bright:

I fart in your general direction. laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


And STILL you avoid spelling out how much you claim the sun is out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get over it, idiot: 8 to 10 degrees...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Didn't you say he could speak for himself?

So... finally something concrete and now YOU can present something other than anecdotal reports to support that Earth's axis has shifted 8-10 degrees from normal, right? Waiting...
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They're here....

Ganging up. chuckle
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep. They always come in herds when they are driven into a corner.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Don't they realize how bad that makes them look to anyone with discernment..?
I understand the need for it.. most people can't handle the truth.
Oh well...

The tactics have worked to some degree. Nobody wants to be ridiculed..

But.. they don't know me very well..

Shill away mother-feckers.. bright

I fart in your general direction. laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


And STILL you avoid spelling out how much you claim the sun is out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


I've stated my opinion.

You underestimate my intelligence.

S'ok..

'Tis a trait of the slow-witted to do this..drooling
You are not the first.. and this is not my first rodeo.
Yippie-Ti-Yi-Yay...horse
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Don't they realize how bad that makes them look to anyone with discernment..?
I understand the need for it.. most people can't handle the truth.
Oh well...

The tactics have worked to some degree. Nobody wants to be ridiculed..

But.. they don't know me very well..

Shill away mother-feckers.. :bright:

I fart in your general direction. laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


And STILL you avoid spelling out how much you claim the sun is out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get over it, idiot: 8 to 10 degrees...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Didn't you say he could speak for himself?

So... finally something concrete and now YOU can present something other than anecdotal reports to support that Earth's axis has shifted 8-10 degrees from normal, right? Waiting...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
Menow
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Yep. They always come in herds when they are driven into a corner.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Don't they realize how bad that makes them look to anyone with discernment..?
I understand the need for it.. most people can't handle the truth.
Oh well...

The tactics have worked to some degree. Nobody wants to be ridiculed..

But.. they don't know me very well..

Shill away mother-feckers.. :bright:

I fart in your general direction. laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


And STILL you avoid spelling out how much you claim the sun is out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


I've stated my opinion.


 Quoting: Waterbug



Actually, you have only danced around and avoided being specific. On the other hand, I'm willing to be reminded if I missed it. Exactly how much do you claim the sun is out of place? In degrees please.
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And STILL you avoid spelling out how much you claim the sun is out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get over it, idiot: 8 to 10 degrees...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Didn't you say he could speak for himself?

So... finally something concrete and now YOU can present something other than anecdotal reports to support that Earth's axis has shifted 8-10 degrees from normal, right? Waiting...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Do Android phones compensate for local declination? Do you even know what declination is?
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They're here....

Ganging up. chuckle
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep. They always come in herds when they are driven into a corner.

rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Don't they realize how bad that makes them look to anyone with discernment..?
I understand the need for it.. most people can't handle the truth.
Oh well...

The tactics have worked to some degree. Nobody wants to be ridiculed..

But.. they don't know me very well..

Shill away mother-feckers.. bright

I fart in your general direction. laugh
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yeah, they make themselfs lookalike Homer Simpson.

And for the sheeps: it's a 'hard to handle' truth but things will get really ugly really fast. So it's better to get over it... very soon.

I'm not so concerned about gettin' ridiculed. I'm more concerned about living in a vast lie.

But the veil is lifting faster every day:
[link to i1184.photobucket.com]
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Yeah. I saw that.. Damn.
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Get over it, idiot: 8 to 10 degrees...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Didn't you say he could speak for himself?

So... finally something concrete and now YOU can present something other than anecdotal reports to support that Earth's axis has shifted 8-10 degrees from normal, right? Waiting...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Do Android phones compensate for local declination? Do you even know what declination is?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Yes, it does. And I'm not interested in the nuts and bolts. So I don't want to get caught up by you in discussing this Bullshit.
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And STILL you avoid spelling out how much you claim the sun is out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get over it, idiot: 8 to 10 degrees...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Didn't you say he could speak for himself?

So... finally something concrete and now YOU can present something other than anecdotal reports to support that Earth's axis has shifted 8-10 degrees from normal, right? Waiting...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


[link to www.droidforums.net]

"Compass accuracy, not so accurate.

My Motorola Droid doesn't seem to have accurate compass reading..."


What a surprise... not!
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Didn't you say he could speak for himself?

So... finally something concrete and now YOU can present something other than anecdotal reports to support that Earth's axis has shifted 8-10 degrees from normal, right? Waiting...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Do Android phones compensate for local declination? Do you even know what declination is?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Yes, it does. And I'm not interested in the nuts and bolts. So I don't want to get caught up by you in discussing this Bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Ahh... so a discussion of the accuracy of your measurements is something you will avoid. Telling, that...
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Get over it, idiot: 8 to 10 degrees...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Didn't you say he could speak for himself?

So... finally something concrete and now YOU can present something other than anecdotal reports to support that Earth's axis has shifted 8-10 degrees from normal, right? Waiting...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


[link to www.droidforums.net]

"Compass accuracy, not so accurate.

My Motorola Droid doesn't seem to have accurate compass reading..."


What a surprise... not!
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

"Compass seems to work poorly for me too if the phone is lying on a table. But as soon as I pick it up and hold it (semi) perpindicular to the ground, it seems to give me pretty accurate readings.

Make sure there are no metal or magnets nearby when you are testing the compass."



" I've had very wrong compass headings. I've tested in a variety of settings and apps. Off. As I posted in another forum. When I was heading true South, the compass read it as SW. When I faced true North, the compass read South as SE. They should have been the same. But it was weird that each was off by about the same degrees, but in different directions. You mentioned sky map. it does show the direction on the horizon line, and for me it is off as well. In fact it was almost 90 degrees off. Facing South it indicated West. "
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Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Do Android phones compensate for local declination? Do you even know what declination is?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Yes, it does. And I'm not interested in the nuts and bolts. So I don't want to get caught up by you in discussing this Bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Ahh... so a discussion of the accuracy of your measurements is something you will avoid. Telling, that...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


How much are they paying you..?
Come'on. You can tell us.
We're all friends, here.

robot
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Didn't you say he could speak for himself?

So... finally something concrete and now YOU can present something other than anecdotal reports to support that Earth's axis has shifted 8-10 degrees from normal, right? Waiting...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


[link to www.droidforums.net]

"Compass accuracy, not so accurate.

My Motorola Droid doesn't seem to have accurate compass reading..."


What a surprise... not!
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

"Compass seems to work poorly for me too if the phone is lying on a table. But as soon as I pick it up and hold it (semi) perpindicular to the ground, it seems to give me pretty accurate readings.

Make sure there are no metal or magnets nearby when you are testing the compass."



" I've had very wrong compass headings. I've tested in a variety of settings and apps. Off. As I posted in another forum. When I was heading true South, the compass read it as SW. When I faced true North, the compass read South as SE. They should have been the same. But it was weird that each was off by about the same degrees, but in different directions. You mentioned sky map. it does show the direction on the horizon line, and for me it is off as well. In fact it was almost 90 degrees off. Facing South it indicated West. "
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

[link to stackoverflow.com]

"Compass give me crazy data..."
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Do Android phones compensate for local declination? Do you even know what declination is?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Yes, it does. And I'm not interested in the nuts and bolts. So I don't want to get caught up by you in discussing this Bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


Ahh... so a discussion of the accuracy of your measurements is something you will avoid. Telling, that...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


How much are they paying you..?
Come'on. You can tell us.
We're all friends, here.

:robot:
 Quoting: Waterbug


And still you avoid spelling out specifics about your claim.
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Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21389207


[link to www.droidforums.net]

"Compass accuracy, not so accurate.

My Motorola Droid doesn't seem to have accurate compass reading..."


What a surprise... not!
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

"Compass seems to work poorly for me too if the phone is lying on a table. But as soon as I pick it up and hold it (semi) perpindicular to the ground, it seems to give me pretty accurate readings.

Make sure there are no metal or magnets nearby when you are testing the compass."



" I've had very wrong compass headings. I've tested in a variety of settings and apps. Off. As I posted in another forum. When I was heading true South, the compass read it as SW. When I faced true North, the compass read South as SE. They should have been the same. But it was weird that each was off by about the same degrees, but in different directions. You mentioned sky map. it does show the direction on the horizon line, and for me it is off as well. In fact it was almost 90 degrees off. Facing South it indicated West. "
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

[link to stackoverflow.com]

"Compass give me crazy data..."
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

[link to stackoverflow.com]

"It's the downside of compact parts made for phones. A $5000 IMU that we're using right now has an error of +/- 2 degrees and in that range it seems to go crazy as well."
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[link to www.droidforums.net]

"Compass accuracy, not so accurate.

My Motorola Droid doesn't seem to have accurate compass reading..."


What a surprise... not!
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

"Compass seems to work poorly for me too if the phone is lying on a table. But as soon as I pick it up and hold it (semi) perpindicular to the ground, it seems to give me pretty accurate readings.

Make sure there are no metal or magnets nearby when you are testing the compass."



" I've had very wrong compass headings. I've tested in a variety of settings and apps. Off. As I posted in another forum. When I was heading true South, the compass read it as SW. When I faced true North, the compass read South as SE. They should have been the same. But it was weird that each was off by about the same degrees, but in different directions. You mentioned sky map. it does show the direction on the horizon line, and for me it is off as well. In fact it was almost 90 degrees off. Facing South it indicated West. "
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

[link to stackoverflow.com]

"Compass give me crazy data..."
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

[link to stackoverflow.com]

"It's the downside of compact parts made for phones. A $5000 IMU that we're using right now has an error of +/- 2 degrees and in that range it seems to go crazy as well."
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


More:

[link to stackoverflow.com]

"Now, don't forget that the sensor gives you the bearing to Magnetic North, and not True North!"

You said it compensated for local declination. It apparently does not.
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Didn't you say he could speak for himself?

So... finally something concrete and now YOU can present something other than anecdotal reports to support that Earth's axis has shifted 8-10 degrees from normal, right? Waiting...
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Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
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Do Android phones compensate for local declination? Do you even know what declination is?
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Yes, it does. And I'm not interested in the nuts and bolts. So I don't want to get caught up by you in discussing this Bullshit.
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FAIL.

Try using an accurate instrument you know how to properly use and try again.
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Get yourself an android phone, software, look up where the sun should be and measure it. It's that simple.
The software will do the work for you.
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Do Android phones compensate for local declination? Do you even know what declination is?
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Yes, it does. And I'm not interested in the nuts and bolts. So I don't want to get caught up by you in discussing this Bullshit.
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FAIL.

Try using an accurate instrument you know how to properly use and try again.
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Apparenly you are wrong about that:

[link to androgeoid.com]

"Which Way Really Is North – Magnetic Declination Info For Compass Correction On Android"

"Compasses don’t point towards true north, the geographic north pole."
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More:

"Compass seems to work poorly for me too if the phone is lying on a table. But as soon as I pick it up and hold it (semi) perpindicular to the ground, it seems to give me pretty accurate readings.

Make sure there are no metal or magnets nearby when you are testing the compass."



" I've had very wrong compass headings. I've tested in a variety of settings and apps. Off. As I posted in another forum. When I was heading true South, the compass read it as SW. When I faced true North, the compass read South as SE. They should have been the same. But it was weird that each was off by about the same degrees, but in different directions. You mentioned sky map. it does show the direction on the horizon line, and for me it is off as well. In fact it was almost 90 degrees off. Facing South it indicated West. "
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More:

[link to stackoverflow.com]

"Compass give me crazy data..."
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More:

[link to stackoverflow.com]

"It's the downside of compact parts made for phones. A $5000 IMU that we're using right now has an error of +/- 2 degrees and in that range it seems to go crazy as well."
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More:

[link to stackoverflow.com]

"Now, don't forget that the sensor gives you the bearing to Magnetic North, and not True North!"

You said it compensated for local declination. It apparently does not.
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I don't know what the guy uses, but: my software compensates local declination not the phone. And there are millions of different phones out there. Do you really believe all of them ar having the same compass hardware?

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