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Have You Noticed The Sun Has "Moved"? Post Your Evidence / Stories Here!

 
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I've noticed the exact same thing I marked where the sun set on the horizon same day every week and indeed it is Slightly moving( figuratively speaking off courstoungee) done it for a few years now, is it just earths tilt slightly changing? Any ideas on explanation?
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That is called "the seasons". Look it up.
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"only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north."

Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


They are out of place, they drifted a few degrees north. How is that wrong? You're a shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


ALL sky objects have moved north? That makes no sense at all, and you have provided no evidence at all- just your say-so against the world's astronomers. How droll.

Repeat: "...including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check."

Why don't you make a vid showing that Polaris is no longer where it belongs? Easy as pie, unless you are wrong.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Well ths is going to sound silly but to me, Orion looked like it was 'higher' in the sky than it used to be (last winter, december 2011 compared to december 2010 for instance). So when I stand on my driveway facing south and have to crane my neck a little more to see it... that would make it more 'North' right?
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Orion changes location in the sky radically over a few hours. Take an astronomy class.
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Where's ASTRO MUTT. Where's his take on this. Can a house or a garden be moved or not. LOL
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Ask the people whose home is sliding off the side of the cliff in Washington.

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Here is the first link I could find, its zetatalk but who cares it has the photos thats all that matters, not gonna search all day for you fucks.

POLARIS OBVIOUS MOVEMENT IN LONG EXPOSURE SHOTs:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


lol. Now you're using Zetatalk as scientific proof?

Game over, man....
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I've noticed the exact same thing I marked where the sun set on the horizon same day every week and indeed it is Slightly moving( figuratively speaking off courstoungee) done it for a few years now, is it just earths tilt slightly changing? Any ideas on explanation?
 Quoting: Anglo-Saxon


That is called "the seasons". Look it up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Lol I know the seasons but I mean that if you look at the sun and mark it every year at the same time every yearit's in a slightly different position, dunno perhaps it's normal :p

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Here is the first link I could find, its zetatalk but who cares it has the photos thats all that matters, not gonna search all day for you fucks.

POLARIS OBVIOUS MOVEMENT IN LONG EXPOSURE SHOTs:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Yes. Polaris is some 3/4 of a degree from the NCP. Completely normal. What photos? Showing what, allegedly?
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Where's ASTRO MUTT. Where's his take on this. Can a house or a garden be moved or not. LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20911512


Ask the people whose home is sliding off the side of the cliff in Washington.
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This has what to do with the location of the sun in the sky? You're trolling.
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I've noticed the exact same thing I marked where the sun set on the horizon same day every week and indeed it is Slightly moving( figuratively speaking off courstoungee) done it for a few years now, is it just earths tilt slightly changing? Any ideas on explanation?
 Quoting: Anglo-Saxon


That is called "the seasons". Look it up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Lol I know the seasons but I mean that if you look at the sun and mark it every year at the same time every yearit's in a slightly different position, dunno perhaps it's normal :p
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*IF* you do that? Have you actually DONE that? Of course not.
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I've noticed the exact same thing I marked where the sun set on the horizon same day every week and indeed it is Slightly moving( figuratively speaking off courstoungee) done it for a few years now, is it just earths tilt slightly changing? Any ideas on explanation?
 Quoting: Anglo-Saxon


That is called "the seasons". Look it up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Lol I know the seasons but I mean that if you look at the sun and mark it every year at the same time every yearit's in a slightly different position, dunno perhaps it's normal :p
 Quoting: Anglo-Saxon


YEARS of sunsets. No change.

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Here is the first link I could find, its zetatalk but who cares it has the photos thats all that matters, not gonna search all day for you fucks.

POLARIS OBVIOUS MOVEMENT IN LONG EXPOSURE SHOTs:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


lol. Now you're using Zetatalk as scientific proof?

Game over, man....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18000125


The proof is in the photos, there is no scientific proof being given for anything from zetatalk. The photos do not originate from zetatalk and therefore you're an idiot with your foot in your mouth. you can look them up on literally hundreds of night sky long exposure enthusiast websites.
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I've noticed the exact same thing I marked where the sun set on the horizon same day every week and indeed it is Slightly moving( figuratively speaking off courstoungee) done it for a few years now, is it just earths tilt slightly changing? Any ideas on explanation?
 Quoting: Anglo-Saxon


That is called "the seasons". Look it up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Lol I know the seasons but I mean that if you look at the sun and mark it every year at the same time every yearit's in a slightly different position, dunno perhaps it's normal :p
 Quoting: Anglo-Saxon


YEARS of sunsets. No change.

[link to www.katkam.ca]
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Make a sun dial, or you're just a shill. Until then STFU, thx.
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I've noticed the exact same thing I marked where the sun set on the horizon same day every week and indeed it is Slightly moving( figuratively speaking off courstoungee) done it for a few years now, is it just earths tilt slightly changing? Any ideas on explanation?
 Quoting: Anglo-Saxon


That is called "the seasons". Look it up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Lol I know the seasons but I mean that if you look at the sun and mark it every year at the same time every yearit's in a slightly different position, dunno perhaps it's normal :p
 Quoting: Anglo-Saxon


YEARS of sunsets. No change.

[link to www.katkam.ca]
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Ok, Perhaps it's my bad marking skills
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Here is the first link I could find, its zetatalk but who cares it has the photos thats all that matters, not gonna search all day for you fucks.

POLARIS OBVIOUS MOVEMENT IN LONG EXPOSURE SHOTs:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


lol. Now you're using Zetatalk as scientific proof?

Game over, man....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18000125


The proof is in the photos, there is no scientific proof being given for anything from zetatalk. The photos do not originate from zetatalk and therefore you're an idiot with your foot in your mouth. you can look them up on literally hundreds of night sky long exposure enthusiast websites.
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I'm guessing you're one of the Fucktards that was just SURE that Elenin was a Brown Dwarf coming to kill us all. Right?
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The plain and simple fact is EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE IS IN MOTION...to take the stance that nothing in said universe is subject to change/reorganization is pure ignorance and damn shallow thinking.
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

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That is called "the seasons". Look it up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Lol I know the seasons but I mean that if you look at the sun and mark it every year at the same time every yearit's in a slightly different position, dunno perhaps it's normal :p
 Quoting: Anglo-Saxon


YEARS of sunsets. No change.

[link to www.katkam.ca]
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Make a sun dial, or you're just a shill. Until then STFU, thx.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Heh... it's YOUR claim, tard... I'm not going to go out of my way to prove anything FOR you.
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Here is the first link I could find, its zetatalk but who cares it has the photos thats all that matters, not gonna search all day for you fucks.

POLARIS OBVIOUS MOVEMENT IN LONG EXPOSURE SHOTs:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


lol. Now you're using Zetatalk as scientific proof?

Game over, man....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18000125


The proof is in the photos, there is no scientific proof being given for anything from zetatalk. The photos do not originate from zetatalk and therefore you're an idiot with your foot in your mouth. you can look them up on literally hundreds of night sky long exposure enthusiast websites.
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Photos showing what? Pleas be specific.
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I have a million pictures of sunsets from every place I have been.
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"Millions" of pictures of sunsets and you can't show two from the same position on the same date in two different years which show what you claim has happened?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


go away shill menow, we know about YOU. WE NOTICE when OUR SHADE changes. My entire north side of house has NO shade anymore in the summer. now go find some other game to play. we are not all idiots who have lived in our homes for 2o or 30 years and know better. The sun is so high still at high noon, my north side is not shaded, until rather recently this summer as the tilt now is moving towards equinox. And the point of equinox was reached about weeks early in March this year. Shadows cast are the best way to determine WHEN equinox it.
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The plain and simple fact is EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE IS IN MOTION...to take the stance that nothing in said universe is subject to change/reorganization is pure ignorance and damn shallow thinking.
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Of course NO ONE said that nothing was subject to change. Care to try again?
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First of all, the sun is always moving. We are traveling in orbit around our sun which is being pulled by the center of our galaxy. Secondly, major earthquakes can change the amount of time in a day, so it might also change when the sun sets from previous years. Third, we are sitting on plate tectonics that are moving which would change the position your land is sitting over time. In conclusion, i find it's nothing special if the sun is hitting a part of your property that it wasn't before.
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I have a million pictures of sunsets from every place I have been.
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"Millions" of pictures of sunsets and you can't show two from the same position on the same date in two different years which show what you claim has happened?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


go away shill menow, we know about YOU. WE NOTICE when OUR SHADE changes. My entire north side of house has NO shade anymore in the summer.
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You're claiming that the sun is NEVER south of your house?
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The plain and simple fact is EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE IS IN MOTION...to take the stance that nothing in said universe is subject to change/reorganization is pure ignorance and damn shallow thinking.
 Quoting: siniXster


Of course NO ONE said that nothing was subject to change. Care to try again?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

No, you are correct, no one said that...everything is in flux except for our Sun/Moon/Earth, is that more accurate to your thought process?
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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First of all, the sun is always moving. We are traveling in orbit around our sun which is being pulled by the center of our galaxy. Secondly, major earthquakes can change the amount of time in a day, so it might also change when the sun sets from previous years. Third, we are sitting on plate tectonics that are moving which would change the position your land is sitting over time. In conclusion, i find it's nothing special if the sun is hitting a part of your property that it wasn't before.
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Ridiculous. None of those things change significantly over a person's lifetime.
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Here is the first link I could find, its zetatalk but who cares it has the photos thats all that matters, not gonna search all day for you fucks.

POLARIS OBVIOUS MOVEMENT IN LONG EXPOSURE SHOTs:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Yes. Polaris is some 3/4 of a degree from the NCP. Completely normal. What photos? Showing what, allegedly?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


that 3/4 of a degree was not there before around 2006 or so (maybe 2008 not sure, I did my six month sun dial observations in 2009 so thats when I became aware of it. I finished in 2010 with a full year and didnt need to go any further for additional proof, though I am sure some people would find it more exact... I was only seeing if there was a change, or not.

In the photos you can see that it is not centered as it is in the first photo, as it should be, and was before the change. Also even if it was given that it was always off true north, the long exposure of polaris has a non-linear path in relation to the beginning of the long exposure. Basically it does not meet back where it began. Do some more searches regarding long exposure shots in relation with axial tilt
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I have a million pictures of sunsets from every place I have been.
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"Millions" of pictures of sunsets and you can't show two from the same position on the same date in two different years which show what you claim has happened?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


go away shill menow, we know about YOU. WE NOTICE when OUR SHADE changes. My entire north side of house has NO shade anymore in the summer.
 Quoting: Doug Jones


You're evidence is "shade"? Seriously? Wow....

That ranks up there with any of these:

Reasons the Earth's axis has shifted:

1. I have a weird feeling.
2. My cat is acting strange
3. Anyone else feeling dizzy today?
4. My Uncle told me so....
5. I had a dream.
6. I had a vision.
7. Jesus told me...
8. My parents were secretly replaced by robots.
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The plain and simple fact is EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE IS IN MOTION...to take the stance that nothing in said universe is subject to change/reorganization is pure ignorance and damn shallow thinking.
 Quoting: siniXster


Of course NO ONE said that nothing was subject to change. Care to try again?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

No, you are correct, no one said that...everything is in flux except for our Sun/Moon/Earth, is that more accurate to your thought process?
 Quoting: siniXster


You are being obtuse. The claim is that the sun is significantly out of place in the sky.
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First of all, the sun is always moving. We are traveling in orbit around our sun which is being pulled by the center of our galaxy. Secondly, major earthquakes can change the amount of time in a day, so it might also change when the sun sets from previous years. Third, we are sitting on plate tectonics that are moving which would change the position your land is sitting over time. In conclusion, i find it's nothing special if the sun is hitting a part of your property that it wasn't before.
 Quoting: Common sense 19402471


Ridiculous. None of those things change significantly over a person's lifetime.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



The first thing he said, that we orbit our sun which orbits the galactic center... that is an accepted theory in modern day science, as stupid as it is.
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Sorry I meant relative to the POSITION of the earth in our solar system. Had to clarify that. Our subjective view would of course be different (only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north).
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ALL SKY OBJECTS would be displaced, including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Read the post two posts above where I clarify before any of you even have a chance to point this out. Try reading a line or two further next time.
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"only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north."

Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Who says they aren't?

Menow, I don't understand what you have to gain by arguing this.
What is your agenda?

Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of.

So why is this bothering you so much?

I'm puzzled.
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I have a million pictures of sunsets from every place I have been.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick


"Millions" of pictures of sunsets and you can't show two from the same position on the same date in two different years which show what you claim has happened?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


go away shill menow, we know about YOU. WE NOTICE when OUR SHADE changes. My entire north side of house has NO shade anymore in the summer.
 Quoting: Doug Jones


You're evidence is "shade"? Seriously? Wow....


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18000125


Are you some kind of Special Ed charity case? This so-called voodoo "shade" you are so condescendingly trying to debunk is how a sun dial works buddy. Do a little research, ok little guy?
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Here is the first link I could find, its zetatalk but who cares it has the photos thats all that matters, not gonna search all day for you fucks.

POLARIS OBVIOUS MOVEMENT IN LONG EXPOSURE SHOTs:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Yes. Polaris is some 3/4 of a degree from the NCP. Completely normal. What photos? Showing what, allegedly?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


that 3/4 of a degree was not there before around 2006 or so (maybe 2008 not sure,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Utter nonsense. That has been the same since before you were born. Ask any astronomer.

I did my six month sun dial observations in 2009 so thats when I became aware of it. I finished in 2010 with a full year and didnt need to go any further for additional proof, though I am sure some people would find it more exact... I was only seeing if there was a change, or not.

In the photos you can see that it is not centered as it is in the first photo, as it should be, and was before the change. Also even if it was given that it was always off true north, the long exposure of polaris has a non-linear path in relation to the beginning of the long exposure. Basically it does not meet back where it began. Do some more searches regarding long exposure shots in relation with axial tilt
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No, Polaris should not be "centered". What "first photo"? The photos on that page are not NEARLY good enough to make this out.
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ALL SKY OBJECTS would be displaced, including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Read the post two posts above where I clarify before any of you even have a chance to point this out. Try reading a line or two further next time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


"only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north."

Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Who says they aren't?

Menow, I don't understand what you have to gain by arguing this.
What is your agenda?

Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of.

So why is this bothering you so much?

I'm puzzled.
 Quoting: Miggy


"Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of."

Link for that? It simply isn't true. Why are you lying? What is YOUR agenda?

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