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Have You Noticed The Sun Has "Moved"? Post Your Evidence / Stories Here!

 
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Here is the first link I could find, its zetatalk but who cares it has the photos thats all that matters, not gonna search all day for you fucks.

POLARIS OBVIOUS MOVEMENT IN LONG EXPOSURE SHOTs:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


lol. Now you're using Zetatalk as scientific proof?

Game over, man....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18000125


The proof is in the photos, there is no scientific proof being given for anything from zetatalk. The photos do not originate from zetatalk and therefore you're an idiot with your foot in your mouth. you can look them up on literally hundreds of night sky long exposure enthusiast websites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


I'm guessing you're one of the Fucktards that was just SURE that Elenin was a Brown Dwarf coming to kill us all. Right?
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I do not know what you're referring to, I do not buy into any theories only what I can observe for myself. With a stick, and a flat surface.
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"Millions" of pictures of sunsets and you can't show two from the same position on the same date in two different years which show what you claim has happened?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


go away shill menow, we know about YOU. WE NOTICE when OUR SHADE changes. My entire north side of house has NO shade anymore in the summer.
 Quoting: Doug Jones


You're evidence is "shade"? Seriously? Wow....


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18000125


Are you some kind of Special Ed charity case? This so-called voodoo "shade" you are so condescendingly trying to debunk is how a sun dial works buddy. Do a little research, ok little guy?
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Sure thing, man. I'll jump right on youtube and "educate" myself the way you did.
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Read the post two posts above where I clarify before any of you even have a chance to point this out. Try reading a line or two further next time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


"only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north."

Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Who says they aren't?

Menow, I don't understand what you have to gain by arguing this.
What is your agenda?

Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of.

So why is this bothering you so much?

I'm puzzled.
 Quoting: Miggy


"Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of."

Link for that? It simply isn't true. Why are you lying? What is YOUR agenda?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Menow has a point on this one, they only conceded a change amounting to micro-seconds +/- the length of the day. Although many intelligent, thinking and reasonable people know that it is much more than that.
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 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I asked you first. You answered a question with a question.
Very poor form..

'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing'.. ?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Your question contains a logical fallacy. There is no "somebody" who is the sole arbiter of such things.

Answer: Nothing has happened. And: You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing.

Question: Not bloody likely, now is it?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Nothing has happened..?

The axis shift is acknowledged..
Do you refute that..?

You are confused.

The question is pretty simple. Leave the 'somebody' part out if it's too hard for you to parse.

'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, 'as if' nothing has happened'.. ?
 Quoting: Waterbug


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You notice from the shade? what about all the telescopes pointing at it pro and amateur? what about eclipses that still happen when they are said to happen?

Do you realise how silly it sounds when you say the Sun has moved!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21053011


Ok I will admit that saying "the sun has moved" sounds silly. I mean it figuratively of course, in that it appears to have moved - or is in a different location - than same time years prior. I understand that it is more likely the Earth changing its axis or perhaps a perturbation in the ecliptic. I'm not of a simple mind, I just like to explain things simply.

As for eclipse times, NASA has the ability to make adjustments to their models without having to check with you. Scientists have concurred that things are not as constant and absolute in space as was once assumed.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick




noticed the same thing here in wa, and to all the posters who say "Then how can they predict eclipses?"
EASY
You just use the new data that only you hace access to and viola' right on time.
if you take a globe and move the N pole to northern central Sibera, then the west coast of N Amer goes slighty south and the central and east coast moves south. (explains the weather doesn't it?)
Would also explain why the prevailing winds now (esp in WA state) now come from more NW than W or SSW.
Want to know what the difference between mag N and true N is in your area and can't calculate it?
Call a surveyor and ask them.
In my area about 3 yrs ago the diff was 15deg W of mag N, now the diff is 18deg W of mag N.
pretty simple since they can't do their job without this info..
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go away shill menow, we know about YOU. WE NOTICE when OUR SHADE changes. My entire north side of house has NO shade anymore in the summer.
 Quoting: Doug Jones


You're evidence is "shade"? Seriously? Wow....


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18000125


Are you some kind of Special Ed charity case? This so-called voodoo "shade" you are so condescendingly trying to debunk is how a sun dial works buddy. Do a little research, ok little guy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Sure thing, man. I'll jump right on youtube and "educate" myself the way you did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18000125


Not hard mr. condescending prick. Grab a stick and shove it in the ground. Level ground. Plot the location with values as angles, dilineate your location as an angle in degrees, account for the 23.5 degree tropic 'normal' movement in relationship with your viewing angle and plot for atleast 6 months. Done. I really do not see how any of us really need any more "internet education" past the basics of a sun dial and geometry.
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First of all, the sun is always moving. We are traveling in orbit around our sun which is being pulled by the center of our galaxy. Secondly, major earthquakes can change the amount of time in a day, so it might also change when the sun sets from previous years. Third, we are sitting on plate tectonics that are moving which would change the position your land is sitting over time. In conclusion, i find it's nothing special if the sun is hitting a part of your property that it wasn't before.
 Quoting: Common sense 19402471


nope your common sense fails here. Yes, its all in motion but the tilt of earth as changed, as the axis 2 years ago. Due east is 4 degrees south of where it used to be on my horizon at equinox.
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sry meant the west coast goes slightly NORTH LOL
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"only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north."

Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Who says they aren't?

Menow, I don't understand what you have to gain by arguing this.
What is your agenda?

Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of.

So why is this bothering you so much?

I'm puzzled.
 Quoting: Miggy


"Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of."

Link for that? It simply isn't true. Why are you lying? What is YOUR agenda?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Menow has a point on this one, they only conceded a change amounting to micro-seconds +/- the length of the day. Although many intelligent, thinking and reasonable people know that it is much more than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130

menow is not correct and is always an asshole on this topic. He is either a shill or can only reproduce the programing laid on his brain this life. He doesn't show evidence of higher thinking on this topic. by his fruits. This is long his confused game here on glp. That and those lights in the sky that are not stars or planets. Wake up people, your world is changing and some people do notice it. Because some of you can't perceive doesn't mean its not happening.
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I asked you first. You answered a question with a question.
Very poor form..

'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing'.. ?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Your question contains a logical fallacy. There is no "somebody" who is the sole arbiter of such things.

Answer: Nothing has happened. And: You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing.

Question: Not bloody likely, now is it?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Nothing has happened..?

The axis shift is acknowledged..
Do you refute that..?

You are confused.

The question is pretty simple. Leave the 'somebody' part out if it's too hard for you to parse.

'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, 'as if' nothing has happened'.. ?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Note: no response.
 Quoting: Waterbug



The stars do not get all jumbled like they're in a mixing bowl... the night sky simply "moves over".. depending on your location that may be absolutely no movement with a small axial tilt. At the poles however the effect will be doubled.
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Anyway waterbug I am agreeing with you. The change is obvious and can be proven by anyone with the will to make the observations.
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Of course. The Sun is always moving.
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the sun does not move
the earth does.
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SO DOES THE EARTHS CRUST REMEMBER THEY ARE JUST CHUNCKS OF ROCK FLOATING ON MAGMA
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 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I asked you first. You answered a question with a question.
Very poor form..

'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing'.. ?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Your question contains a logical fallacy. There is no "somebody" who is the sole arbiter of such things.

Answer: Nothing has happened. And: You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing.

Question: Not bloody likely, now is it?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Nothing has happened..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


The sun is not visibly out of place in the sky.

The axis shift is acknowledged..
Do you refute that..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Define: "The axis shift" and allegedly acknowledged by whom?

You are confused.
 Quoting: Waterbug


No, I'm not.

The question is pretty simple. Leave the 'somebody' part out if it's too hard for you to parse.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Then the question becomes as I rephrased it: You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing.

'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, 'as if' nothing has happened'.. ?
 Quoting: Waterbug



Answered: Because nothing significant to this issue has happened. You STILL haven't answered my question. Repeat:
Not bloody likely, now is it?
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You notice from the shade? what about all the telescopes pointing at it pro and amateur? what about eclipses that still happen when they are said to happen?

Do you realise how silly it sounds when you say the Sun has moved!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21053011


Ok I will admit that saying "the sun has moved" sounds silly. I mean it figuratively of course, in that it appears to have moved - or is in a different location - than same time years prior. I understand that it is more likely the Earth changing its axis or perhaps a perturbation in the ecliptic. I'm not of a simple mind, I just like to explain things simply.

As for eclipse times, NASA has the ability to make adjustments to their models without having to check with you. Scientists have concurred that things are not as constant and absolute in space as was once assumed.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick




noticed the same thing here in wa, and to all the posters who say "Then how can they predict eclipses?"
EASY
You just use the new data that only you hace access to and viola' right on time.
if you take a globe and move the N pole to northern central Sibera, then the west coast of N Amer goes slighty south and the central and east coast moves south. (explains the weather doesn't it?)
Would also explain why the prevailing winds now (esp in WA state) now come from more NW than W or SSW.
Want to know what the difference between mag N and true N is in your area and can't calculate it?
Call a surveyor and ask them.
In my area about 3 yrs ago the diff was 15deg W of mag N, now the diff is 18deg W of mag N.
pretty simple since they can't do their job without this info..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


You are invited to show "new data" which contradicts "old data". Magnetic north declination has nothing to do with the physical observed location of objects in the sky.
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Your question contains a logical fallacy. There is no "somebody" who is the sole arbiter of such things.

Answer: Nothing has happened. And: You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing.

Question: Not bloody likely, now is it?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Nothing has happened..?

The axis shift is acknowledged..
Do you refute that..?

You are confused.

The question is pretty simple. Leave the 'somebody' part out if it's too hard for you to parse.

'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, 'as if' nothing has happened'.. ?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Note: no response.
 Quoting: Waterbug



The stars do not get all jumbled like they're in a mixing bowl... the night sky simply "moves over".. depending on your location that may be absolutely no movement with a small axial tilt. At the poles however the effect will be doubled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Utter nonsense. Whatever change in "tilt" of Earth's axis would be exactly the same, worldwide, and would shift ALL sky objects exactly the same in degrees as the axis shift.
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You notice from the shade? what about all the telescopes pointing at it pro and amateur? what about eclipses that still happen when they are said to happen?

Do you realise how silly it sounds when you say the Sun has moved!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21053011


Ok I will admit that saying "the sun has moved" sounds silly. I mean it figuratively of course, in that it appears to have moved - or is in a different location - than same time years prior. I understand that it is more likely the Earth changing its axis or perhaps a perturbation in the ecliptic. I'm not of a simple mind, I just like to explain things simply.

As for eclipse times, NASA has the ability to make adjustments to their models without having to check with you. Scientists have concurred that things are not as constant and absolute in space as was once assumed.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick




noticed the same thing here in wa, and to all the posters who say "Then how can they predict eclipses?"
EASY
You just use the new data that only you hace access to and viola' right on time.
if you take a globe and move the N pole to northern central Sibera, then the west coast of N Amer goes slighty south and the central and east coast moves south. (explains the weather doesn't it?)
Would also explain why the prevailing winds now (esp in WA state) now come from more NW than W or SSW.
Want to know what the difference between mag N and true N is in your area and can't calculate it?
Call a surveyor and ask them.
In my area about 3 yrs ago the diff was 15deg W of mag N, now the diff is 18deg W of mag N.
pretty simple since they can't do their job without this info..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


You are invited to show "new data" which contradicts "old data". Magnetic north declination has nothing to do with the physical observed location of objects in the sky.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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Anyway waterbug I am agreeing with you. The change is obvious and can be proven by anyone with the will to make the observations.
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Funny how no one has been able to prove it for the last decade of these claims.
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Anyway waterbug I am agreeing with you. The change is obvious and can be proven by anyone with the will to make the observations.
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Funny how no one has been able to prove it for the last decade of these claims.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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Ok I will admit that saying "the sun has moved" sounds silly. I mean it figuratively of course, in that it appears to have moved - or is in a different location - than same time years prior. I understand that it is more likely the Earth changing its axis or perhaps a perturbation in the ecliptic. I'm not of a simple mind, I just like to explain things simply.

As for eclipse times, NASA has the ability to make adjustments to their models without having to check with you. Scientists have concurred that things are not as constant and absolute in space as was once assumed.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick




noticed the same thing here in wa, and to all the posters who say "Then how can they predict eclipses?"
EASY
You just use the new data that only you hace access to and viola' right on time.
if you take a globe and move the N pole to northern central Sibera, then the west coast of N Amer goes slighty south and the central and east coast moves south. (explains the weather doesn't it?)
Would also explain why the prevailing winds now (esp in WA state) now come from more NW than W or SSW.
Want to know what the difference between mag N and true N is in your area and can't calculate it?
Call a surveyor and ask them.
In my area about 3 yrs ago the diff was 15deg W of mag N, now the diff is 18deg W of mag N.
pretty simple since they can't do their job without this info..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


You are invited to show "new data" which contradicts "old data". Magnetic north declination has nothing to do with the physical observed location of objects in the sky.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Uh huh... once again, that is for YOU to do to attempt to prove your asinine claim. You won't, because you can't.
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noticed the same thing here in wa, and to all the posters who say "Then how can they predict eclipses?"
EASY
You just use the new data that only you hace access to and viola' right on time.
if you take a globe and move the N pole to northern central Sibera, then the west coast of N Amer goes slighty south and the central and east coast moves south. (explains the weather doesn't it?)
Would also explain why the prevailing winds now (esp in WA state) now come from more NW than W or SSW.
Want to know what the difference between mag N and true N is in your area and can't calculate it?
Call a surveyor and ask them.
In my area about 3 yrs ago the diff was 15deg W of mag N, now the diff is 18deg W of mag N.
pretty simple since they can't do their job without this info..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


You are invited to show "new data" which contradicts "old data". Magnetic north declination has nothing to do with the physical observed location of objects in the sky.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Uh huh... once again, that is for YOU to do to attempt to prove your asinine claim. You won't, because you can't.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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ALSO I HAD A SEASONAL STAR CHART THAT WAS PRINTED ABOUT 30 YRS AGO AND SINCE IT IS NOT A BOOK, IT CANNOT BE HACKED AND THE DATA DOES NOT MATCH UP ANYMORE.
ORION SHOULD NOT BE VISIBLE IN THE SOUTHERN SKY IN MARCH AT 6AM


BUT IT IS NOW
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I think MENOW has had a nervous break down. He does this all the time on other threads about the changes taking place. There are others too that do this that I have noticed. It does not help to argue with these guys. Just keep starting these threads and get he word out to Watch The Sun And Moon cause somthing is definetly up I think anyways.Menow, go see a shrink cause you are definetly way over the top about all of this. We can all see and hear that this stuff definetely has a bad affect on you.
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And besides even NASA said our axis was changed by the 2 8.+ EQ's in China and Haiti within that time.


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Really? Changed by how much? You should make it in degrees and show links.
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Lord, give me strength.

Here Menow.

Plenty of sources to choose from.

Then retry inserting China instead of Chili into google search and you'll get a few more degrees of tilt.


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North Star points north or does it now? North has moved too.
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SOOO easy to check, but none of you 'skytards' will ever do it.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


So go ahead, and check buddy..

I said it three times and I'll say it again:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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YOU TOO??????

I have been feeling this way since early spring this year.

It's as though the earth's cycle has changed by 3 months.

Seasons are changing earlier than normal by about 3-4 weeks.

Glad I'm not the only one.

Miggy
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The back-up trolls have arrived. Yawn.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


So sad, you probably don't even know what a Sun dial is, much less how to make one.

Here are some directions:

Take a fucking stick, shove it in the fucking ground, plot the position of the tip of the shadow daily and if you can't figure the rest out I can't fuckin help ya buddy. Simple math.
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I bow to your superior knowledge. Show your experiment proving the sun to be out of place and show your math. It's your claim- you have the floor.
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Waiting for you to show your experiment and math. Or... do you just expect people to believe it simply because YOU SAY SO?
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You notice from the shade? what about all the telescopes pointing at it pro and amateur? what about eclipses that still happen when they are said to happen?

Do you realise how silly it sounds when you say the Sun has moved!
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Ok I will admit that saying "the sun has moved" sounds silly. I mean it figuratively of course, in that it appears to have moved - or is in a different location - than same time years prior. I understand that it is more likely the Earth changing its axis or perhaps a perturbation in the ecliptic. I'm not of a simple mind, I just like to explain things simply.

As for eclipse times, NASA has the ability to make adjustments to their models without having to check with you. Scientists have concurred that things are not as constant and absolute in space as was once assumed.
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noticed the same thing here in wa, and to all the posters who say "Then how can they predict eclipses?"
EASY
You just use the new data that only you hace access to and viola' right on time.
if you take a globe and move the N pole to northern central Sibera, then the west coast of N Amer goes slighty south and the central and east coast moves south. (explains the weather doesn't it?)
Would also explain why the prevailing winds now (esp in WA state) now come from more NW than W or SSW.
Want to know what the difference between mag N and true N is in your area and can't calculate it?
Call a surveyor and ask them.
In my area about 3 yrs ago the diff was 15deg W of mag N, now the diff is 18deg W of mag N.
pretty simple since they can't do their job without this info..
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You are invited to show "new data" which contradicts "old data". Magnetic north declination has nothing to do with the physical observed location of objects in the sky.
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LMAO
THEN TELL ME WHY MY HARD DATA STAR CHARTS ARE NO LONGER MATCHING WHAT I SEE IN THE SKY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????​?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????​??????????????????????????
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Nothing has happened..?

The axis shift is acknowledged..
Do you refute that..?

You are confused.

The question is pretty simple. Leave the 'somebody' part out if it's too hard for you to parse.

'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, 'as if' nothing has happened'.. ?
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Note: no response.
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The stars do not get all jumbled like they're in a mixing bowl... the night sky simply "moves over".. depending on your location that may be absolutely no movement with a small axial tilt. At the poles however the effect will be doubled.
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Utter nonsense. Whatever change in "tilt" of Earth's axis would be exactly the same, worldwide, and would shift ALL sky objects exactly the same in degrees as the axis shift.
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AND ANY COMPUTER PROGRAM CAN BE HACKED INCLUDING ONLINE CHARTS
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North Star points north or does it now? North has moved too.
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SOOO easy to check, but none of you 'skytards' will ever do it.
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So go ahead, and check buddy..

I said it three times and I'll say it again:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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Why would *I* do something which no 'skytard' has been willing to do for most of the last decade?

Simple: Take a camera- put it on a tripod- aim it at Polaris- take multiple exposures over several hours. Why will NONE of you do this?
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The back-up trolls have arrived. Yawn.
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So sad, you probably don't even know what a Sun dial is, much less how to make one.

Here are some directions:

Take a fucking stick, shove it in the fucking ground, plot the position of the tip of the shadow daily and if you can't figure the rest out I can't fuckin help ya buddy. Simple math.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


I bow to your superior knowledge. Show your experiment proving the sun to be out of place and show your math. It's your claim- you have the floor.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Waiting for you to show your experiment and math. Or... do you just expect people to believe it simply because YOU SAY SO?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.

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