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Have You Noticed The Sun Has "Moved"? Post Your Evidence / Stories Here!

 
Menow
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The stars do not get all jumbled like they're in a mixing bowl... the night sky simply "moves over".. depending on your location that may be absolutely no movement with a small axial tilt. At the poles however the effect will be doubled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Utter nonsense. Whatever change in "tilt" of Earth's axis would be exactly the same, worldwide, and would shift ALL sky objects exactly the same in degrees as the axis shift.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


AND ANY COMPUTER PROGRAM CAN BE HACKED INCLUDING ONLINE CHARTS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


You are welcome to show that eclipse/transit charts from libraries which are DECADES old are contradicted by current "online charts". You can't because they agree.
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The stars do not get all jumbled like they're in a mixing bowl... the night sky simply "moves over".. depending on your location that may be absolutely no movement with a small axial tilt. At the poles however the effect will be doubled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Utter nonsense. Whatever change in "tilt" of Earth's axis would be exactly the same, worldwide, and would shift ALL sky objects exactly the same in degrees as the axis shift.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


AND ANY COMPUTER PROGRAM CAN BE HACKED INCLUDING ONLINE CHARTS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


You are welcome to show that eclipse/transit charts from libraries which are DECADES old are contradicted by current "online charts". You can't because they agree.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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Lord, give me strength.

Here Menow.

Plenty of sources to choose from.

Then retry inserting China instead of Chili into google search and you'll get a few more degrees of tilt.


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Nope. Not a google search. A link validating your claim that NASA said Earth's axis has changed by 2-4 degrees.
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Hmm.. Harvard dude.
Guess he's making this shit up, too..

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Natural tilts in earth's axis cause ice ages, says Harvard scientist - and their cycles could help predict the next one
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[snip]

The idea that slight shifts in Earth's axis might have been enough to trigger the ice ages is a century old.

But a Harvard earth sciences Professor Peter Huybers has finally proved it, using computer models to test competing ideas - and finding that earth's tilting axis is the only one that works.

The finding could have profound implications for our understanding of our planet's climate - and could, its author says, be crucial to 'predicting long-term changes in future climate.'
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Utter nonsense. Whatever change in "tilt" of Earth's axis would be exactly the same, worldwide, and would shift ALL sky objects exactly the same in degrees as the axis shift.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


AND ANY COMPUTER PROGRAM CAN BE HACKED INCLUDING ONLINE CHARTS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


You are welcome to show that eclipse/transit charts from libraries which are DECADES old are contradicted by current "online charts". You can't because they agree.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


In other words, you refuse to demonstrate your own claimed experimental proof. What a surprise.
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AND ANY COMPUTER PROGRAM CAN BE HACKED INCLUDING ONLINE CHARTS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


You are welcome to show that eclipse/transit charts from libraries which are DECADES old are contradicted by current "online charts". You can't because they agree.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


In other words, you refuse to demonstrate your own claimed experimental proof. What a surprise.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the seventh? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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AND ANY COMPUTER PROGRAM CAN BE HACKED INCLUDING ONLINE CHARTS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


You are welcome to show that eclipse/transit charts from libraries which are DECADES old are contradicted by current "online charts". You can't because they agree.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


In other words, you refuse to demonstrate your own claimed experimental proof. What a surprise.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



So you want to tell us we're wrong, after clearly displaying a reasonable way to FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF, then you don't want to be bothered to do so?
LOL
LOL

You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the seventeenth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
Menow
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Hmm.. Harvard dude.
Guess he's making this shit up, too..

~


Natural tilts in earth's axis cause ice ages, says Harvard scientist - and their cycles could help predict the next one
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[snip]

The idea that slight shifts in Earth's axis might have been enough to trigger the ice ages is a century old.

But a Harvard earth sciences Professor Peter Huybers has finally proved it, using computer models to test competing ideas - and finding that earth's tilting axis is the only one that works.

The finding could have profound implications for our understanding of our planet's climate - and could, its author says, be crucial to 'predicting long-term changes in future climate.'
 Quoting: Waterbug


So you're attempting to substitute an hypothesis stating that Earth's axis CAN shift for evidence that it HAS shifted? Really? Do you get away with this sort of thing elsewhere?
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Anyway waterbug I am agreeing with you. The change is obvious and can be proven by anyone with the will to make the observations.
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Funny how no one has been able to prove it for the last decade of these claims.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


science has proved the earth has moved after several of these massive eq's here is one artcle there sre dozens more

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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You are welcome to show that eclipse/transit charts from libraries which are DECADES old are contradicted by current "online charts". You can't because they agree.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


In other words, you refuse to demonstrate your own claimed experimental proof. What a surprise.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



So you want to tell us we're wrong, after clearly displaying a reasonable way to FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF, then you don't want to be bothered to do so?
LOL
LOL

You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the seventeenth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


You don't get it. I called your bluff. You folded. You have NADA.
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Hmm.. Harvard dude.
Guess he's making this shit up, too..

~


Natural tilts in earth's axis cause ice ages, says Harvard scientist - and their cycles could help predict the next one
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[snip]

The idea that slight shifts in Earth's axis might have been enough to trigger the ice ages is a century old.

But a Harvard earth sciences Professor Peter Huybers has finally proved it, using computer models to test competing ideas - and finding that earth's tilting axis is the only one that works.

The finding could have profound implications for our understanding of our planet's climate - and could, its author says, be crucial to 'predicting long-term changes in future climate.'
 Quoting: Waterbug


So you're attempting to substitute an hypothesis stating that Earth's axis CAN shift for evidence that it HAS shifted? Really? Do you get away with this sort of thing elsewhere?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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Excellent Point About Old Books That They Cant Hack Up Or Change. Sure Is Alot Of That Going On!!!!!!!. Wikipedia although I find some good info on that site is New Take on Stuff and New Definitions that do not always fit. History is being erased.
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Anyway waterbug I am agreeing with you. The change is obvious and can be proven by anyone with the will to make the observations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Funny how no one has been able to prove it for the last decade of these claims.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


science has proved the earth has moved after several of these massive eq's here is one artcle there sre dozens more

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


The Earth "moves" all the time. Are you talking about an axis shift? How much- in DEGREES please.
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You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


In other words, you refuse to demonstrate your own claimed experimental proof. What a surprise.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



So you want to tell us we're wrong, after clearly displaying a reasonable way to FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF, then you don't want to be bothered to do so?
LOL
LOL

You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the seventeenth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


You don't get it. I called your bluff. You folded. You have NADA.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Yeah if we were playing poker that would make sense... but a Sun Dial is not a "hidden hand" that you cannot see...

You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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neither do you lol
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Can we enter Menow as a definition of IDIOT Shill.
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Can we enter Menow as a definition of IDIOT Shill.
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Read the post two posts above where I clarify before any of you even have a chance to point this out. Try reading a line or two further next time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


"only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north."

Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Who says they aren't?

Menow, I don't understand what you have to gain by arguing this.
What is your agenda?

Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of.

So why is this bothering you so much?

I'm puzzled.
 Quoting: Miggy


"Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of."

Link for that? It simply isn't true. Why are you lying? What is YOUR agenda?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Well, Miggy? Why did you lie about this?
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Anyway waterbug I am agreeing with you. The change is obvious and can be proven by anyone with the will to make the observations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130


Funny how no one has been able to prove it for the last decade of these claims.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


science has proved the earth has moved after several of these massive eq's here is one artcle there sre dozens more

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21057762


The Earth "moves" all the time. Are you talking about an axis shift? How much- in DEGREES please.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200





lol we realize you will never agree since its not your job
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You guys are unbelievable!

YOU are claiming the Sun has moved.

YOU are claiming you have seen proof with your homemade sundials.

YOU are claiming old books say different to online sources.

So instead of asking enow to show proof nothing amiss, how about YOU show your proof that smething IS going on!.


Oh btw, old books can carry old data, updating would aiin correction.
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ALSO I HAD A SEASONAL STAR CHART THAT WAS PRINTED ABOUT 30 YRS AGO AND SINCE IT IS NOT A BOOK, IT CANNOT BE HACKED AND THE DATA DOES NOT MATCH UP ANYMORE.
ORION SHOULD NOT BE VISIBLE IN THE SOUTHERN SKY IN MARCH AT 6AM


BUT IT IS NOW
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You are invited to cite a pic of your book, along with reference numbers to find the book.
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Menow, this is from one of the MANY links that I supplied you with.

You wanted links, I gave you many.

You didn't like the links. You wanted one more specific.

The NASA one is IN those links.

Here is a small paragraph from one of the many NASA links.

"A scientist at NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) reports:

"Many earthquakes have killed hundreds of people from Chile to Haiti, Turkey and around the world, and these earthquakes can involve shifting hundreds of kilometers of rock by several meters, changing the distribution of mass on the planet. This affects the Earth’s rotation", said Richard Gross, geophysicist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, who uses a computer model to calculate the effects.
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“The length of the day should have gotten shorter by 1.26 microseconds (millionths of a second),” Gross, said today in an e-mailed reply to questions. “The axis about which the Earth’s mass is balanced should have moved by 2.7 milliarcseconds (about 8 centimeters or 3 inches).”

The changes can be modeled, though they’re difficult to physically detect given their small size, Gross said. Some changes may be more obvious, and islands may have shifted, according to Andreas Rietbrock, a professor of Earth Sciences at the U.K.’s Liverpool University who has studied the area impacted, though not since the latest temblor.

Santa Maria Island off the coast near Concepcion, Chile’s second-largest city, may have been raised 2 meters (6 feet) as a result of the latest quake, Rietbrock said today in a telephone interview. He said the rocks there show evidence pointing to past earthquakes shifting the island upward in the past."

If you want, just type "NASA EARTH AXIS EARTHQUAKE" in the google search engine and you'll have plenty.


And I apologize when I said the EQ's that affected the axis were China and Chili. They were the 9.0+ in Japan and the 8.+ in Chili.

Miggy

PS. Are you related to that weatherman guy who used to be on here, by chance? Just asking.
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Can we enter Menow as a definition of IDIOT Shill.
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yes please
guess he didn't bother to read the artlcle about most of Japan moving 13ft closer to N america lol


nooooooo that wouldn't effect ANYTHING, RIGHT?
ROTFLMFAO
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ALSO I HAD A SEASONAL STAR CHART THAT WAS PRINTED ABOUT 30 YRS AGO AND SINCE IT IS NOT A BOOK, IT CANNOT BE HACKED AND THE DATA DOES NOT MATCH UP ANYMORE.
ORION SHOULD NOT BE VISIBLE IN THE SOUTHERN SKY IN MARCH AT 6AM


BUT IT IS NOW
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You are invited to bring this up next march. You didn't give your location, by the way.
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Can we enter Menow as a definition of IDIOT Shill.
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yes please
guess he didn't bother to read the artlcle about most of Japan moving 13ft closer to N america lol


nooooooo that wouldn't effect ANYTHING, RIGHT?
ROTFLMFAO
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And that had what effect on Earth's axis? Please be specific.
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"only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north."

Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Who says they aren't?

Menow, I don't understand what you have to gain by arguing this.
What is your agenda?

Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of.

So why is this bothering you so much?

I'm puzzled.
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"Scientists and Astronomers have already agreed that the earth has tilted a couple of degrees during each of those EQ's. That's at least 4 degrees that we know of."

Link for that? It simply isn't true. Why are you lying? What is YOUR agenda?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Well, Miggy? Why did you lie about this?
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Wow, you're really searching aren't you? Quite the comical robo-tards we have here... I'm sure theres millions of people like Menow. Maybe even a few NSA agents paid to simply add a "deniability factor" to any and all threats to the status quo.

Don't make me copy and paste again...

"
You're telling me you don't know how to EVEN MAKE A SUNDIAL? YOU CANT EVEN do a google search for sun dials?

Geometry doesn't translate well when text is the only option. But you probably didn't realize there was geometry involved so I'll forgive you.

...And you're sitting here telling us how we should "go check" .. BUT YOU DONT KNOW HOW, AND LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO FIND OUT!!
LOL
LOL

For the fifth? time:

Sorry menow but we've already shown you how you can prove it to yourself, since you are the only one needing convincing. You're permasheep'd or a shill, either way, sundial: grab a fucking stick and shove it in the fucking ground, tape yourself when you do this so we can laugh at how wrong you are. The earth has shifted, and the proof is in the pudding... or in the "fucking stick" in this case.
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whoops, that one slipped.
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Ok I will admit that saying "the sun has moved" sounds silly. I mean it figuratively of course, in that it appears to have moved - or is in a different location - than same time years prior. I understand that it is more likely the Earth changing its axis or perhaps a perturbation in the ecliptic. I'm not of a simple mind, I just like to explain things simply.

As for eclipse times, NASA has the ability to make adjustments to their models without having to check with you. Scientists have concurred that things are not as constant and absolute in space as was once assumed.
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noticed the same thing here in wa, and to all the posters who say "Then how can they predict eclipses?"
EASY
You just use the new data that only you hace access to and viola' right on time.
if you take a globe and move the N pole to northern central Sibera, then the west coast of N Amer goes slighty south and the central and east coast moves south. (explains the weather doesn't it?)
Would also explain why the prevailing winds now (esp in WA state) now come from more NW than W or SSW.
Want to know what the difference between mag N and true N is in your area and can't calculate it?
Call a surveyor and ask them.
In my area about 3 yrs ago the diff was 15deg W of mag N, now the diff is 18deg W of mag N.
pretty simple since they can't do their job without this info..
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You are invited to show "new data" which contradicts "old data". Magnetic north declination has nothing to do with the physical observed location of objects in the sky.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


LMAO
THEN TELL ME WHY MY HARD DATA STAR CHARTS ARE NO LONGER MATCHING WHAT I SEE IN THE SKY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????​?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????​??????????????????????????
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Pic of charts? Alleged difference from the current sky?
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ALSO I HAD A SEASONAL STAR CHART THAT WAS PRINTED ABOUT 30 YRS AGO AND SINCE IT IS NOT A BOOK, IT CANNOT BE HACKED AND THE DATA DOES NOT MATCH UP ANYMORE.
ORION SHOULD NOT BE VISIBLE IN THE SOUTHERN SKY IN MARCH AT 6AM


BUT IT IS NOW
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You are invited to cite a pic of your book, along with reference numbers to find the book.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


TITLE: Seasonal Star Charts
A complete guide to the stars

copyright 1972

publisher: Hubbard Press, a division of Hubbard
scientific company, Northbrook, IL 60062
printed in the united states
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ALSO I HAD A SEASONAL STAR CHART THAT WAS PRINTED ABOUT 30 YRS AGO AND SINCE IT IS NOT A BOOK, IT CANNOT BE HACKED AND THE DATA DOES NOT MATCH UP ANYMORE.
ORION SHOULD NOT BE VISIBLE IN THE SOUTHERN SKY IN MARCH AT 6AM


BUT IT IS NOW
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You are invited to bring this up next march. You didn't give your location, by the way.
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actually i did
pay attention
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Hmm.. Harvard dude.
Guess he's making this shit up, too..

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Natural tilts in earth's axis cause ice ages, says Harvard scientist - and their cycles could help predict the next one
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[snip]

The idea that slight shifts in Earth's axis might have been enough to trigger the ice ages is a century old.

But a Harvard earth sciences Professor Peter Huybers has finally proved it, using computer models to test competing ideas - and finding that earth's tilting axis is the only one that works.

The finding could have profound implications for our understanding of our planet's climate - and could, its author says, be crucial to 'predicting long-term changes in future climate.'
 Quoting: Waterbug


So you're attempting to substitute an hypothesis stating that Earth's axis CAN shift for evidence that it HAS shifted? Really? Do you get away with this sort of thing elsewhere?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Why would you think I'm trying to 'get away' with something..?

Suspicious sort.. ain't 'cha, sport..?


[link to www.nasa.gov]

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Gross said that even though the Chilean earthquake is much smaller than the Sumatran quake, it is predicted to have changed the position of the figure axis by a bit more for two reasons. First, unlike the 2004 Sumatran earthquake, which was located near the equator, the 2010 Chilean earthquake was located in Earth's mid-latitudes, which makes it more effective in shifting Earth's figure axis. Second, the fault responsible for the 2010 Chiliean earthquake dips into Earth at a slightly steeper angle than does the fault responsible for the 2004 Sumatran earthquake. This makes the Chile fault more effective in moving Earth's mass vertically and hence more effective in shifting Earth's figure axis.



[link to www.nasa.gov]

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The calculations also show the Japan quake should have shifted the position of Earth's figure axis (the axis about which Earth's mass is balanced) by about 17 centimeters (6.5 inches), towards 133 degrees east longitude. Earth's figure axis should not be confused with its north-south axis; they are offset by about 10 meters (about 33 feet). This shift in Earth's figure axis will cause Earth to wobble a bit differently as it rotates, but it will not cause a shift of Earth's axis in space—only external forces such as the gravitational attraction of the sun, moon and planets can do that.

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