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What the? What is wrong with you guys. The Sun is doing everything else but move? Its blasting us. Its poles are flipping. Its twisting our magnetospere. Its blasting us with photons. Its uv's have intensified, 9 Sunspots the other day. Its arching and connecting its sun spots now. and on and on and on it goes just like you guys. But hey, its not moving! Its Normal! If everything is normal then I guess it's just you guys that are fucked. I think it has changed in alot of ways includeing being in the wrong spot, higher and closer. My garden hates it. My plants are trying to get away.

They aren't sure about the amount of 'wobble'. That is why they are incorporating new technology[ring laser gyroscope] which will be more accurate.

I explained that in my post.

This value is currently under investigation as being inaccurate.. too low.

Do some research.

I think all the information being used to calabrate, osculate,fix mix and hook up to for measurments is being fornacated on by the powers that be.Anybody using any current data being supplied by the powers that be should be suspicious of it. I believe with the advent of the internet and the loss of books, information is being adjusted and falsified to fit the new model and to keep people in the dark.I will believe my own eyeballs before I'll go along with anything you spin doctors are trying to sell everybody. Normal is not normal anymore.

My "opinion" is a statement of demonstrable objective fact.
You are wrong.


Bollocks.

Your opinion is wrong.
It has been show to be wrong with verifiable hard facts.

You are wrong.


Don't lie.
They ARE sure about the Sun not being in the wrong place.


Not about observed facts.
Even if they had no clue that the Earth orbits around the Sun they'd still be sure that the Sun today is in exact the same position in the sky as it was one year ago.
Because they MEASURED and DOCUMENTED it.


NOT to determine the position of Mars.


Stop LYING about such tiny deviations having anything to do with the Sun being NOTICEABLY out of place.

WHAT are you: a moran, or a disinfo shill?





Last Edited by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on 08/06/2012 07:37 PM

But you can offer ZERO in the way of measurements of the sun's "changed" and "wrong" location, right? Right.

Oh.. and now the sun is "closer" too... :roar:

And that alleged "unsureness" lies in what SCALE?

The "current data" about transits, eclipses and the like, agrees exactly with books printed DECADES ago which can be found in any larger library.

Ok Buddy. I like how you PICK YOUR SHIT BUT YOUR NOT PICKING MINE. Transits ya, eclipses ya, Some stuff you can't change cause its there. BUT when it comes to mathematical calculations pick your own nose and shove it up your ass.

So what, exactly, do you claim is the wrong data?

Thus since at least 1906 astronomers know about the sudden wobble of Earth axis in 2012?
Translation of a german astronomy book from 1906:
"The last two Venus transits occured on Dec. 8, 1874 and Dec. 6, 1882, the next two transits occure at June 8, 2004 and June 6, 2012."



Sure the axial tilt is ongoing, with a period of 25,700 to 25,800 years




If the shoe fits, wear it.
Seems you are the "F*ck, this wall never had sun" guy.






From chapter IV:
"If you haven't got a leg to stand on, start insulting".



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Link please.


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Ever since i can remember the sun has moved from the east to he west lark

Waterbugs long since gone Hydra. Keep pulling down the shit to keep it all in play. Keep it as boring or to technical so people won't play. When shit hits the fan Bob, Dick and Harry, Susie you guys will still be standing there with your thumbs up your asses and won't even know what hit ya. Nobody is listening anymore. They're probably watching to see what other threads you guys attack. I know I am. See you all in other threads attacking the Sun, The Moon, The Stars, and helping with the coverup. Everything is normal. Shills.

Yes, Waterbug seems to have run away rather than admit the scientific info he was citing doesn't back up the claims made in this thread.

Well? What current data do you claim is wrong? Or were you just blowing smoke? Yes, you were.

[link to www.ipcc.ch]

Global warming could change Earth's tilt
[link to www.newscientist.com]

Laser gyroscope measures the Earth's 'wobble'
[link to physicsworld.com]

Microwave study bursts Hubble bubble
[link to physicsworld.com]

Galaxy clusters back general relativity
[link to physicsworld.com]

[link to www.agu.org]

Traveling supraglacial lakes on George VI Ice Shelf, Antarctica
[link to www.agu.org]

Collected Papers on the Tohoku-Oki Event
[link to www.agu.org]

Low-energy ions: A previously hidden solar system particle population
[link to www.agu.org]

Warming could cause tilt in Earth’s axis
[link to wattsupwiththat.com]

Note: No response.

I dug out my plat map, house blueprints[built my own house], foundation plan, compass and transit.
Checked the orientation of the house.. faces due south. I made it a point to orient due south when I laid out the foundation.
Checked the ground.. foundation hasn't moved.

Checked the framing around the window.. nobody has moved the window.. nor the wall in which it is installed.



The only explanation is that I'm an idiot and don't see what I see..

Thanks, guys.. for pointing this out to me.

And now, I must seek the attention of an eye specialist..

Later.

Here is a response...
Only took you 4 minutes to post after I did...

Stalking.

None of your above "testing" does anything at all toward confirming an incorrect location of the sun in the sky.

It's always the same: "You can't tell me I don't see what I see". It's not about what you "SEE". It's about what you think you REMEMBER seeing or not seeing at some previous time and how you interpret that.

Why don't you use that equipment and expertise to determine the location of sunrise/set and document that it is wrong?

Note: Still no answer to my question.

And that alleged "unsureness" lies in what SCALE?

A critical thinking transfusion might be more useful.

Lots of links - very impressive



Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift?



"... the melting of Greenland's ice is already causing Earth's axis to tilt at an annual rate of about 2.6 centimetres ..."
"... cause the northern pole of Earth's spin axis to shift by roughly 1.5 centimetres per year ..."

Again you don't get the scale - It,s less than the Japan EQ - in the milli-arcsec range.



"Thanks to the sensitivity and stability of large ring laser gyroscope, the team were able to directly measure the combined effect of the Chandler and the annual wobble of the freely rotating Earth. Their measured data was in excellent agreement with the independent measurements by using the astronomical method."

Shot yourself in the foot.



"Microwave study bursts Hubble bubble"
How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift?



"Galaxy clusters back general relativity"
How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift?



Nothing mentioned on the page about "Global warming could change Earth's tilt"



Scale already discussed here: [link to www.newscientist.com]



Scale given before: 2.7 milliarcseconds = 0.00000000075 deg



"Low-energy ions: ..."
How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift?



Scale already discussed here: [link to www.newscientist.com]



Evidence? For what?
Evidence, that you have no clue about what you are linking to.
Evidence, that you have no clue about scale issue.
Evidence, that you have no clue about trigonometry and how to convert the cm into degrees.
Evidence, that you just copy and paste, hoping that some people with as less clue as you fall for it.

:swfpole:


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Yep.. lot of links to articles and papers which I read to formulate my OPINION..

FUCK OFF.

Thus at least since 1906 astronomers know about the sudden wobble of Earth axis in 2012?
Translation of a german astronomy book from 1906:
"The last two Venus transits occured on Dec. 8, 1874 and Dec. 6, 1882, the next two transits occure at June 8, 2004 and June 6, 2012."



Still wayting for an answer.


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From chapter IV:
"If you haven't got a leg to stand on, start insulting".



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Last Edited by Hydra on 08/07/2012 11:35 AM

Which you refuse to specify. How droll.

Wow, you're a real Zetatard, aren't you? How come you're so obsessed with an old lady talking to aliens?