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Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 08/06/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Earth scientists, who are soo confused and bumbling and arrogant, somehow just sent another craft to soft-land on a distant celestial body. Must be dumb luck, since according to Waterbug they are baffled about Earth's axis and rotation. Quoting: Menow 18943200 [link to news.yahoo.com] Don't put words in my mouth. I said they weren't sure. You imply they aren't "sure" about the subject of this thread, which is that there are GROSS changes in the track of the sun in the sky. It simply isn't true- You are being disingenuous in your implication. It's called: "Disinfo". They aren't sure about the amount of 'wobble'. That is why they are incorporating new technology[ring laser gyroscope] which will be more accurate. I explained that in my post. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21416502 Canada 08/06/2012 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think all the information being used to calabrate, osculate,fix mix and hook up to for measurments is being fornacated on by the powers that be.Anybody using any current data being supplied by the powers that be should be suspicious of it. I believe with the advent of the internet and the loss of books, information is being adjusted and falsified to fit the new model and to keep people in the dark.I will believe my own eyeballs before I'll go along with anything you spin doctors are trying to sell everybody. Normal is not normal anymore. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 19507663 Netherlands 08/06/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD Your opinion has been shown to be wrong. I think so little of your opinion that I'm going to break my rule and use wiki to illuminate you.. My "opinion" is a statement of demonstrable objective fact. You are wrong. Bollocks. Your opinion is wrong. It has been show to be wrong with verifiable hard facts. You are wrong. Yes, Earth scientists, who are soo confused and bumbling and arrogant, somehow just sent another craft to soft-land on a distant celestial body. Must be dumb luck, since according to Waterbug they are baffled about Earth's axis and rotation. Quoting: Menow 18943200 Don't put words in my mouth. I said they weren't sure. Don't lie. They ARE sure about the Sun not being in the wrong place. Not about observed facts. Even if they had no clue that the Earth orbits around the Sun they'd still be sure that the Sun today is in exact the same position in the sky as it was one year ago. Because they MEASURED and DOCUMENTED it. The mechanics and interactions of the universe are still somewhat of a mystery. Why do you think they sent the craft to Mars..? Quoting: Waterbug Just for kicks..? NOT to determine the position of Mars. Stop LYING about such tiny deviations having anything to do with the Sun being NOTICEABLY out of place. WHAT are you: a moran, or a disinfo shill? Last Edited by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on 08/06/2012 07:37 PM Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/06/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the? What is wrong with you guys. The Sun is doing everything else but move? Its blasting us. Its poles are flipping. Its twisting our magnetospere. Its blasting us with photons. Its uv's have intensified, 9 Sunspots the other day. Its arching and connecting its sun spots now. and on and on and on it goes just like you guys. But hey, its not moving! Its Normal! If everything is normal then I guess it's just you guys that are fucked. I think it has changed in alot of ways includeing being in the wrong spot, higher and closer. My garden hates it. My plants are trying to get away. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21416502 But you can offer ZERO in the way of measurements of the sun's "changed" and "wrong" location, right? Right. Oh.. and now the sun is "closer" too... :roar: |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/06/2012 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Earth scientists, who are soo confused and bumbling and arrogant, somehow just sent another craft to soft-land on a distant celestial body. Must be dumb luck, since according to Waterbug they are baffled about Earth's axis and rotation. Quoting: Menow 18943200 [link to news.yahoo.com] Don't put words in my mouth. I said they weren't sure. You imply they aren't "sure" about the subject of this thread, which is that there are GROSS changes in the track of the sun in the sky. It simply isn't true- You are being disingenuous in your implication. It's called: "Disinfo". They aren't sure about the amount of 'wobble'. That is why they are incorporating new technology[ring laser gyroscope] which will be more accurate. I explained that in my post. And that alleged "unsureness" lies in what SCALE? |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/06/2012 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think all the information being used to calabrate, osculate,fix mix and hook up to for measurments is being fornacated on by the powers that be.Anybody using any current data being supplied by the powers that be should be suspicious of it. I believe with the advent of the internet and the loss of books, information is being adjusted and falsified to fit the new model and to keep people in the dark.I will believe my own eyeballs before I'll go along with anything you spin doctors are trying to sell everybody. Normal is not normal anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21416502 The "current data" about transits, eclipses and the like, agrees exactly with books printed DECADES ago which can be found in any larger library. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21416502 Canada 08/06/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok Buddy. I like how you PICK YOUR SHIT BUT YOUR NOT PICKING MINE. Transits ya, eclipses ya, Some stuff you can't change cause its there. BUT when it comes to mathematical calculations pick your own nose and shove it up your ass. |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/06/2012 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok Buddy. I like how you PICK YOUR SHIT BUT YOUR NOT PICKING MINE. Transits ya, eclipses ya, Some stuff you can't change cause its there. BUT when it comes to mathematical calculations pick your own nose and shove it up your ass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21416502 So what, exactly, do you claim is the wrong data? |
Hydra User ID: 21403984 Germany 08/06/2012 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The path of the solar eclipse in May was calculated decades ago. Quoting: Hydra If the polar axis had tilted only by a fraction of a degree, the path would have been hundreds of kilometer off. Same applies to the Venus transit in June. But.. the axial tilt has been ongoing.. this is not disputed... by real scientists, anyway. How do you then explain the ability to predict an eclipse path years into the future..? It's because they know about it and take it into account when calculating.. as they do precession, etc. And how do you know what I read or don't.. and what I believe or don't.. You must be a fucking mind-reader. Can you read what I'm thinking right now..? Thus since at least 1906 astronomers know about the sudden wobble of Earth axis in 2012? Translation of a german astronomy book from 1906: "The last two Venus transits occured on Dec. 8, 1874 and Dec. 6, 1882, the next two transits occure at June 8, 2004 and June 6, 2012." But.. the axial tilt has been ongoing.. this is not disputed... by real scientists, anyway. Quoting: Waterbug Sure the axial tilt is ongoing, with a period of 25,700 to 25,800 years If the shoe fits, wear it. Seems you are the "F*ck, this wall never had sun" guy. From chapter IV: "If you haven't got a leg to stand on, start insulting". . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Hydra User ID: 21403984 Germany 08/06/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The main cause of the wobble is the precession of the equinoxes - in 71 years it adds up to 1 deg. Quoting: Hydra The other changes are measurable but not visible. This value is currently under investigation as being inaccurate.. too low. Do some research. Link please. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21416502 Canada 08/06/2012 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Waterbugs long since gone Hydra. Keep pulling down the shit to keep it all in play. Keep it as boring or to technical so people won't play. When shit hits the fan Bob, Dick and Harry, Susie you guys will still be standing there with your thumbs up your asses and won't even know what hit ya. Nobody is listening anymore. They're probably watching to see what other threads you guys attack. I know I am. See you all in other threads attacking the Sun, The Moon, The Stars, and helping with the coverup. Everything is normal. Shills. |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/06/2012 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Waterbugs long since gone Hydra. Keep pulling down the shit to keep it all in play. Keep it as boring or to technical so people won't play. When shit hits the fan Bob, Dick and Harry, Susie you guys will still be standing there with your thumbs up your asses and won't even know what hit ya. Nobody is listening anymore. They're probably watching to see what other threads you guys attack. I know I am. See you all in other threads attacking the Sun, The Moon, The Stars, and helping with the coverup. Everything is normal. Shills. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21416502 Yes, Waterbug seems to have run away rather than admit the scientific info he was citing doesn't back up the claims made in this thread. |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/06/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok Buddy. I like how you PICK YOUR SHIT BUT YOUR NOT PICKING MINE. Transits ya, eclipses ya, Some stuff you can't change cause its there. BUT when it comes to mathematical calculations pick your own nose and shove it up your ass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21416502 So what, exactly, do you claim is the wrong data? Well? What current data do you claim is wrong? Or were you just blowing smoke? Yes, you were. |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 08/07/2012 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ipcc.ch] Global warming could change Earth's tilt [link to www.newscientist.com] Laser gyroscope measures the Earth's 'wobble' [link to physicsworld.com] Microwave study bursts Hubble bubble [link to physicsworld.com] Galaxy clusters back general relativity [link to physicsworld.com] [link to www.agu.org] Traveling supraglacial lakes on George VI Ice Shelf, Antarctica [link to www.agu.org] Collected Papers on the Tohoku-Oki Event [link to www.agu.org] Low-energy ions: A previously hidden solar system particle population [link to www.agu.org] Warming could cause tilt in Earth’s axis [link to wattsupwiththat.com] |
Menow User ID: 17887948 United States 08/07/2012 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You imply they aren't "sure" about the subject of this thread, which is that there are GROSS changes in the track of the sun in the sky. It simply isn't true- You are being disingenuous in your implication. It's called: "Disinfo". They aren't sure about the amount of 'wobble'. That is why they are incorporating new technology[ring laser gyroscope] which will be more accurate. I explained that in my post. And that alleged "unsureness" lies in what SCALE? Note: No response. |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 08/07/2012 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dug out my plat map, house blueprints[built my own house], foundation plan, compass and transit. Checked the orientation of the house.. faces due south. I made it a point to orient due south when I laid out the foundation. Checked the ground.. foundation hasn't moved. Checked the framing around the window.. nobody has moved the window.. nor the wall in which it is installed. The only explanation is that I'm an idiot and don't see what I see.. Thanks, guys.. for pointing this out to me. And now, I must seek the attention of an eye specialist.. Later. |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 08/07/2012 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 18943200 You imply they aren't "sure" about the subject of this thread, which is that there are GROSS changes in the track of the sun in the sky. It simply isn't true- You are being disingenuous in your implication. It's called: "Disinfo". They aren't sure about the amount of 'wobble'. That is why they are incorporating new technology[ring laser gyroscope] which will be more accurate. I explained that in my post. And that alleged "unsureness" lies in what SCALE? Note: No response. Here is a response... Only took you 4 minutes to post after I did... Stalking. |
Menow User ID: 17887948 United States 08/07/2012 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dug out my plat map, house blueprints[built my own house], foundation plan, compass and transit. Quoting: Waterbug Checked the orientation of the house.. faces due south. I made it a point to orient due south when I laid out the foundation. Checked the ground.. foundation hasn't moved. Checked the framing around the window.. nobody has moved the window.. nor the wall in which it is installed. The only explanation is that I'm an idiot and don't see what I see.. Thanks, guys.. for pointing this out to me. And now, I must seek the attention of an eye specialist.. Later. :retard: None of your above "testing" does anything at all toward confirming an incorrect location of the sun in the sky. It's always the same: "You can't tell me I don't see what I see". It's not about what you "SEE". It's about what you think you REMEMBER seeing or not seeing at some previous time and how you interpret that. |
Menow User ID: 17887948 United States 08/07/2012 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dug out my plat map, house blueprints[built my own house], foundation plan, compass and transit. Quoting: Waterbug Checked the orientation of the house.. faces due south. I made it a point to orient due south when I laid out the foundation. Checked the ground.. foundation hasn't moved. Why don't you use that equipment and expertise to determine the location of sunrise/set and document that it is wrong? |
Menow User ID: 17887948 United States 08/07/2012 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Waterbug They aren't sure about the amount of 'wobble'. That is why they are incorporating new technology[ring laser gyroscope] which will be more accurate. I explained that in my post. And that alleged "unsureness" lies in what SCALE? Note: No response. Here is a response... Only took you 4 minutes to post after I did... Stalking. Note: Still no answer to my question. And that alleged "unsureness" lies in what SCALE? |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 19507663 Netherlands 08/07/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only explanation is that I'm an idiot and don't see what I see.. Quoting: Waterbug Thanks, guys.. for pointing this out to me. And now, I must seek the attention of an eye specialist.. A critical thinking transfusion might be more useful. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Hydra User ID: 21403984 Germany 08/07/2012 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of links - very impressive Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? "... the melting of Greenland's ice is already causing Earth's axis to tilt at an annual rate of about 2.6 centimetres ..." "... cause the northern pole of Earth's spin axis to shift by roughly 1.5 centimetres per year ..." Again you don't get the scale - It,s less than the Japan EQ - in the milli-arcsec range. Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Laser gyroscope measures the Earth's 'wobble' [link to physicsworld.com] "Thanks to the sensitivity and stability of large ring laser gyroscope, the team were able to directly measure the combined effect of the Chandler and the annual wobble of the freely rotating Earth. Their measured data was in excellent agreement with the independent measurements by using the astronomical method." Shot yourself in the foot. Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Microwave study bursts Hubble bubble [link to physicsworld.com] "Microwave study bursts Hubble bubble" How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Galaxy clusters back general relativity [link to physicsworld.com] "Galaxy clusters back general relativity" How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? Nothing mentioned on the page about "Global warming could change Earth's tilt" Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Traveling supraglacial lakes on George VI Ice Shelf, Antarctica [link to www.agu.org] Scale already discussed here: [link to www.newscientist.com] Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Collected Papers on the Tohoku-Oki Event [link to www.agu.org] Scale given before: 2.7 milliarcseconds = 0.00000000075 deg Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Low-energy ions: A previously hidden solar system particle population [link to www.agu.org] "Low-energy ions: ..." How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? Scale already discussed here: [link to www.newscientist.com] Evidence? For what? Evidence, that you have no clue about what you are linking to. Evidence, that you have no clue about scale issue. Evidence, that you have no clue about trigonometry and how to convert the cm into degrees. Evidence, that you just copy and paste, hoping that some people with as less clue as you fall for it. :swfpole: . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 08/07/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of links - very impressive Quoting: Hydra Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? "... the melting of Greenland's ice is already causing Earth's axis to tilt at an annual rate of about 2.6 centimetres ..." "... cause the northern pole of Earth's spin axis to shift by roughly 1.5 centimetres per year ..." Again you don't get the scale - It,s less than the Japan EQ - in the milli-arcsec range. Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Laser gyroscope measures the Earth's 'wobble' [link to physicsworld.com] "Thanks to the sensitivity and stability of large ring laser gyroscope, the team were able to directly measure the combined effect of the Chandler and the annual wobble of the freely rotating Earth. Their measured data was in excellent agreement with the independent measurements by using the astronomical method." Shot yourself in the foot. Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Microwave study bursts Hubble bubble [link to physicsworld.com] "Microwave study bursts Hubble bubble" How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Galaxy clusters back general relativity [link to physicsworld.com] "Galaxy clusters back general relativity" How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? Nothing mentioned on the page about "Global warming could change Earth's tilt" Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Traveling supraglacial lakes on George VI Ice Shelf, Antarctica [link to www.agu.org] Scale already discussed here: [link to www.newscientist.com] Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Collected Papers on the Tohoku-Oki Event [link to www.agu.org] Scale given before: 2.7 milliarcseconds = 0.00000000075 deg Global warming could change Earth's tilt Quoting: Waterbug Low-energy ions: A previously hidden solar system particle population [link to www.agu.org] "Low-energy ions: ..." How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? Scale already discussed here: [link to www.newscientist.com] Evidence? For what? Evidence, that you have no clue about what you are linking to. Evidence, that you have no clue about scale issue. Evidence, that you have no clue about trigonometry and how to convert the cm into degrees. Evidence, that you just copy and paste, hoping that some people with as less clue as you fall for it. :swfpole: . Yep.. lot of links to articles and papers which I read to formulate my OPINION.. FUCK OFF. |
Hydra User ID: 21403984 Germany 08/07/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you then explain the ability to predict an eclipse path years into the future..? It's because they know about it and take it into account when calculating.. as they do precession, etc. Thus at least since 1906 astronomers know about the sudden wobble of Earth axis in 2012? Translation of a german astronomy book from 1906: "The last two Venus transits occured on Dec. 8, 1874 and Dec. 6, 1882, the next two transits occure at June 8, 2004 and June 6, 2012." Still wayting for an answer. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Hydra User ID: 21403984 Germany 08/07/2012 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of links - very impressive Quoting: Hydra Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? "... the melting of Greenland's ice is already causing Earth's axis to tilt at an annual rate of about 2.6 centimetres ..." "... cause the northern pole of Earth's spin axis to shift by roughly 1.5 centimetres per year ..." Again you don't get the scale - It,s less than the Japan EQ - in the milli-arcsec range. ... snip ... Evidence? For what? Evidence, that you have no clue about what you are linking to. Evidence, that you have no clue about scale issue. Evidence, that you have no clue about trigonometry and how to convert the cm into degrees. Evidence, that you just copy and paste, hoping that some people with as less clue as you fall for it. Yep.. lot of links to articles and papers which I read to formulate my OPINION.. FUCK OFF. From chapter IV: "If you haven't got a leg to stand on, start insulting". . Last Edited by Hydra on 08/07/2012 11:35 AM :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21473223 Germany 08/07/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of links - very impressive Quoting: Hydra Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) How is this link related to a alleged non natural poleshift? "... the melting of Greenland's ice is already causing Earth's axis to tilt at an annual rate of about 2.6 centimetres ..." "... cause the northern pole of Earth's spin axis to shift by roughly 1.5 centimetres per year ..." Again you don't get the scale - It,s less than the Japan EQ - in the milli-arcsec range. ... snip ... Evidence? For what? Evidence, that you have no clue about what you are linking to. Evidence, that you have no clue about scale issue. Evidence, that you have no clue about trigonometry and how to convert the cm into degrees. Evidence, that you just copy and paste, hoping that some people with as less clue as you fall for it. Yep.. lot of links to articles and papers which I read to formulate my OPINION.. FUCK OFF. :ztbook: From chapter IV: "If you haven't got a leg to stand on, start insulting". . Wow, you're a real Zetatard, aren't you? How come you're so obsessed with an old lady talking to aliens? |