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Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"

 
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
Very simply:

"As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Security of a FREE state, AKA when the government decides to start patrolling my town and demand passes to go anywhere it is time to exercise that second amendment right. And if you think that day isn't approaching you have your head stuck in the sand.
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so if the government starts patrolling, you're going to join a well regulated militia?
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A well regulated militia merely refers to having arms and equipment commensurate to what is necessary for a defense force. Of course the ignorant sheep of today put the modern spin on the word "regulated".

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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
Let's not be confused people. Guns are not just for hunting, they are for protecting citizens from unrestrained exercise of power and despotic abuse of authority. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. In supreme court cases District of Columbia v. Heller(2008) and McDonald v. Chicago (2010), under which the Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms much as the First Amendment protects the right to free speech. Under this model the militia is composed of members who supply their own arms and ammunition.
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Against drones, Apache helicopters, C130 gunships?
Good luck with that.
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Only a moron or a clueless sheep would ever make this comment.

You think the gunships, helicopters and drones operate with total impunity? They have no crews? The crews have no familes? They have no supply lines? They have no bases?

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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
He has a point! Even the most extreme of right wingers and conservatives can see that people really don't need these kinds of weapons.

He is also saying that we need to ban civilians from buying body armor (the Aurora killer wore bulletproof vests during his shooting spree).

The tide is turning -- one day soon these dangerous weapons will be off the streets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244



you morons that post this horse shit should be deported back to your third world home country because you completely fail to grasp "freedom"

No where in the constitution does it say "HUNTING" you frikin moron

..the purpose of the 2nd amendment is solely to PROTECT US AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT"
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
He has a point! Even the most extreme of right wingers and conservatives can see that people really don't need these kinds of weapons.

He is also saying that we need to ban civilians from buying body armor (the Aurora killer wore bulletproof vests during his shooting spree).

The tide is turning -- one day soon these dangerous weapons will be off the streets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


Here are 56 millions reasons why you couldn't be more wrong.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million jewish people and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
 Quoting: Hawgzilla


^^^THIS^^^
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
"..the purpose of the 2nd amendment is solely to PROTECT US AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT"

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I dont think so.. it is to allow us to protect our own property from criminals. We have the right to kill criminals if they threaten us or our family. Attacking the Gov is just unrealistic even if it ever was the intent.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
You miss the point, OP. Owning guns isn't for the purpose of hunting. I own lots of guns and I don't care anything about hunting.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
I appreciate the designs, the engineering and the accuracy of a well-made weapon.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
And yes, I would dispatch anybody that made the mistake of breaking into my house.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
Technology is worthless, against an opponent who has reserved to their fate of dying to fight tyranny. Look how well all our technology works against afghan freedom fighters. They are blowing the shit out of the world's most powerful military every single day. The will to be free overcomes any stealth bullshit. We take out the planes on the ground using RPGs if need be. Or find the families of the pilots, and chainsaw their fucking heads off! That would ground a aquadron pretty fast LOL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15959056

so the US military is not invincible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21082358


Vietnam would say "yes, not invincible".
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peasants the world over have handed the USA major ass kickings. Vietnam and Afghanistan being the two best examples. And they did it with outdated weapons. The american people are armed much better, and have the tools to make more effective weapons if need be. Also the embedded drug cartels here at home could hook up rocket launchers and grenades if we couldn't liberate them from armories. If the government ever turns on us or brings in the UN to enforce anything, the people will definitely take the country back.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
"..the purpose of the 2nd amendment is solely to PROTECT US AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT"

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I dont think so.. it is to allow us to protect our own property from criminals. We have the right to kill criminals if they threaten us or our family. Attacking the Gov is just unrealistic even if it ever was the intent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11466416


You've got to be mentally deficient if you really think the .gov is not a criminal enterprise, that poses a threat to american. They are the drug runners, they are the arms traffickers, they are the destroyers of liberty. The .gov is the biggest threat facing america today. That's what guns are for.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
As soon as the entire government gets rid of all their automatic weapons, armed drones, armored vehicles here inside the US- I’ll give up my semi-auto rifles and ammo.

Sounds reasonable right? And even the founders would agree, so gov-you first!

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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
He has a point! Even the most extreme of right wingers and conservatives can see that people really don't need these kinds of weapons.

He is also saying that we need to ban civilians from buying body armor (the Aurora killer wore bulletproof vests during his shooting spree).

The tide is turning -- one day soon these dangerous weapons will be off the streets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244
Quite the opposite. When you see what the jewish marxist govt. of the Un is doing we need our guns to fight the NWO. The USA govt. under jewish domination has attempted to overthrow 50 govts. in the world. In the future we will need our guns to get
1. Free speech back
2. The right to print our own currency
3. Protect our nuclear secrets from the jewish people.
4. Shoot back at the Israelis for the Lavon Affair, 911 and the SS Liberty.
5. Remove the United Nazis govt. from out future.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
He has a point! Even the most extreme of right wingers and conservatives can see that people really don't need these kinds of weapons.

He is also saying that we need to ban civilians from buying body armor (the Aurora killer wore bulletproof vests during his shooting spree).

The tide is turning -- one day soon these dangerous weapons will be off the streets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


Here are 56 millions reasons why you couldn't be more wrong.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

------------------------------

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

------------------------------

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million jewish people and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

------------------------------

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

------------------------------

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

------------------------------

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

------------------------------

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

-----------------------------

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
 Quoting: Hawgzilla


^^^THIS^^^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21117248


What is the difference between the jew in the holocaust and the gypsies and the handicapped?
The gypsies did not use the holocaust to
1. Steal your right to print your own currencies
2. Make free speech hate speech
3. Give us a new marxist govt-United Nazis
4. Steal our nuclear secrets.
5. Brutally and cowardly murder the 34 on the SS Liberty
6. Blow up their own allies in the Lavon Affair
7. 911

All in all america would be better off with the handicapped and the gypsies than a murderous jew.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
Here's a thought...

When America's founding fathers created the Second Amendment, the long rifle was cutting-edge weapons technology.

Today there are stealth bombers, armored helicopters, high altitude drones, all sorts of precision and non-precision missiles, not to mention all the 'secret' weapons.

How is Joe Six-Pack, with his AR-15 (or even a 50 cal) and Glock sidearm, supposed to defend himself against the tyranny of high altitude drones and cluster bombs?

Rifles and sidearms are no longer the equalizers that stood between the citizen and the state, and brought balance to the world.

Should we each have an army tank, helicopter, and missile battery in our back yard? Most people, even the pro 2nd amendment folks, would say that seems unreasonable.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
Probably the same reason the governments of this crazy world need assualt rifles Michael, to kill their target. Disarm the world, not just the little people, otherwise the citizens of this world are sitting targets for the elite and their minions. See Palestine, Iraq, Afganistan, Libya...just some examples for you.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
He has a point! Even the most extreme of right wingers and conservatives can see that people really don't need these kinds of weapons.

He is also saying that we need to ban civilians from buying body armor (the Aurora killer wore bulletproof vests during his shooting spree).

The tide is turning -- one day soon these dangerous weapons will be off the streets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


His point sucks

Than the masters of world finance and politics, criminals, and others who intend to harm and subjugate us will be the only ones with the kind or weapons and armor necessary to defend ourselves from this reality... nope, not buying into your mind fuck

... the most conservative do not agree and these weapons are necessary. Savage is a MORAN and you are an obvious shill

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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
He has a point! Even the most extreme of right wingers and conservatives can see that people really don't need these kinds of weapons.

He is also saying that we need to ban civilians from buying body armor (the Aurora killer wore bulletproof vests during his shooting spree).

The tide is turning -- one day soon these dangerous weapons will be off the streets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


The 2A says NOTHING about us having arms for hunting. They are for stopping a tyrannical government.
 Quoting: Hawgzilla


this
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
He has a point! Even the most extreme of right wingers and conservatives can see that people really don't need these kinds of weapons.

He is also saying that we need to ban civilians from buying body armor (the Aurora killer wore bulletproof vests during his shooting spree).

The tide is turning -- one day soon these dangerous weapons will be off the streets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


His point sucks.

Than the masters of world finance and politics, criminals, and others who intend to harm and subjugate us will be the only ones with the kind or weapons and armor necessary to defend ourselves from this reality... nope, not buying into that mind fuck

Savage is a MORAN and you are a moran for agreeing with him.
 Quoting: Frankenstein


Is an AR-15 sufficient to defend oneself against an A-10 Warthog armed with a GAU-8 Gatling cannon spitting uranium at 4,200 rounds-per-minute?

Can you obtain an A-10 to equalize yourself with the military power of the state? The state moved beyond rifles a long time ago.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
No. Your are wrong. Savage is a jew....there is a segment of jewish people in congress, mayor's and public figures who are fascists who are as bad as their nazi oppressor's and seek to empower the government at the individual's expense...
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
Just how people need to get in their SUV's to get to their jobs.

Non of his frackin bidness
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
its not to hunt deer, stupid, its to defend liberty from threats, foreign and domestic.

fucking anti gun retards go choke on a communist cock and die.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
its not to hunt deer, stupid, its to defend liberty from threats, foreign and domestic.

fucking anti gun retards go choke on a communist cock and die.
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The problem here is that the 'commi' governments have much bigger weapons than any average liberty-loving person has access to. Again... how do rifles protect our liberty against high-altitude guided weapons?
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
Fire it all in the general direction of the deer, you may hit it...
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
Here's a thought...

When America's founding fathers created the Second Amendment, the long rifle was cutting-edge weapons technology.

Today there are stealth bombers, armored helicopters, high altitude drones, all sorts of precision and non-precision missiles, not to mention all the 'secret' weapons.

How is Joe Six-Pack, with his AR-15 (or even a 50 cal) and Glock sidearm, supposed to defend himself against the tyranny of high altitude drones and cluster bombs?

Rifles and sidearms are no longer the equalizers that stood between the citizen and the state, and brought balance to the world.

Should we each have an army tank, helicopter, and missile battery in our back yard? Most people, even the pro 2nd amendment folks, would say that seems unreasonable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15041895


Back in the 18th century there were ships and artillery batteries that could dessimate large areas of ground forces just as today. The intent is that whatever a citizen could "bear" would be whatever a member of the FedGov militia could equally "bear". Meaning "to carry". If the citizens needed to go up against the FedGov militia it would be bloody with huge losses. Those potential losses are the cost to prevent small rogue citizen groups like the SEIU, ACORN or the TEA party from mounting a revolution. If there are enough EQUALLY armed citizens, however, then the revolution would succeed and those tanks, aircraft, etc. would be overtaken.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
He has a point! Even the most extreme of right wingers and conservatives can see that people really don't need these kinds of weapons.

He is also saying that we need to ban civilians from buying body armor (the Aurora killer wore bulletproof vests during his shooting spree).

The tide is turning -- one day soon these dangerous weapons will be off the streets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


The 2A says NOTHING about us having arms for hunting. They are for stopping a tyrannical government.
 Quoting: Hawgzilla


this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337441


Yeah. Our AR-15s and Glock sidearms are going to stop a tyrannical government wielding guided missles, cluster-bombs, directed EMPs, air to surface precision lasers, weather weapons, armored helicopters and high altitude drones. That's the ticket.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
The 2nd amendment wasn't meant for hunting....it's for preserving freedom.
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The founders wanted arms in the hands of the people
to insure they could NEVER fall to a dictatorship
as had happened in Europe.
Had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with hunting.

People are stupid, even people who are supposed to
be knowledgeable, because they don't know history.

[link to econfaculty.gmu.edu]

Read what the founders said themselves.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
Oh, and the military doesn't belong being used on the private citizens of this free country.
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don't they have to agree to fight enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC when they sign up?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9952455


Yes, they swear an oath to that effect. I did. The question of course is who are the domestic enemies? And as always not many at a certain age even understand what that means.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


obviously the domestic enemies are whoever the bosses say they are.
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curiously my boss has never suggested who the domestic enemies are, it's obvious domestic enemies want to destroy american culture, and that needs no authorization from any 'boss'
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gummint draws to it sociopaths and narcissists like shyte draws flies to itself.
ANY professional pol is suspect and needs to PROVE they are not subversive, and so far, 99+% of them fail and should be dealt with accordingly
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
its not to hunt deer, stupid, its to defend liberty from threats, foreign and domestic.

fucking anti gun retards go choke on a communist cock and die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21023066



The problem here is that the 'commi' governments have much bigger weapons than any average liberty-loving person has access to. Again... how do rifles protect our liberty against high-altitude guided weapons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15041895


Back in the 18th century, snipers, hit/run/hide raiding parties, urban tactics worked very well just as they are today in Iraq, and Afganistan. Why isn't the US out of Afganistan? Because of the same tactics as back in the 18th century. They work.
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Re: Michael Savage : "Why Does Anyone Need a Semi-Auto Rifle and 100 Round Drum Magazine to Hunt Deer?"
its not to hunt deer, stupid, its to defend liberty from threats, foreign and domestic.

fucking anti gun retards go choke on a communist cock and die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21023066



The problem here is that the 'commi' governments have much bigger weapons than any average liberty-loving person has access to. Again... how do rifles protect our liberty against high-altitude guided weapons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15041895


Back in the 18th century, snipers, hit/run/hide raiding parties, urban tactics worked very well just as they are today in Iraq, and Afganistan. Why isn't the US out of Afganistan? Because of the same tactics as back in the 18th century. They work.
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Hmmm... I'm not so sure the US is still in Afghanistan because of that. Seems to me they're there as part of a long term plan to harvest opium and maintain a strategic outpost. Attrition is a losing game against an opposition with vast resources who is placing siege and constantly pounding the land with overwhelming force.

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