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what do you think of my james holmes conspiracy theory?

 
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Questions? Comments?
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if you rotate your user ID 180 degrees so it is upside down then it starts with 666, therefore you must be part of the illuminati
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The pics of James Holmes don't match up at all....different people

this is the first clue that something is very wrong indeed...

Another clue is ...the stories of witnesses and what is being put through the news is very contradictory...

Another disturbing fact is: the one they are saying is James Holmes appeared in court on 2 occasions now; so drugged up ...he could not verbalize ....

These clues are disturbing and point to something sinister

This is my belief
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I think he might just be a serial killer.

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definitely closer to the truth than what the "news" outlets are reporting.
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Initial reports said 2 shooters, there are witnesses who say they saw two gun men!! James came peacefuly yet his back window was smashed? was he asleep? I also remember reading on redit about bombs that the police disarmed in the cinema... who put those there, were they even there!? Wtf, you gotta ask questions and with this one you get more and more questions :/
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This is stupid. Hes crazy. Point. Blank. Period. No conspiracy. People talking about his hair color... he had nothing in common with the joker but the name. No purple suit, no makeup.. he was just a crazy person that planned to kill. Give him life or the chair an be done with it.
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there's no conspiracy he and his family are fucking freemasons working for mossaud
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I have suspicions of the whole thing. I see the report of the father is fake. I just know it doesn't add up. I am bipolar and I have schizophrenia friends. I am sick of evil being blamed on us. It was one thing to classify them pscyhotic but now they make us wear it and we have to live out here and hide our diseases locked in a closet and not tell anybody/ If you want to work, you have to hear this story in the breakroom and hear everyone discuss the disease in elaborate detail that you have. You can't say anything because they will be scared of you and want you gone. We have to put up with the lies and the idenity they give us. How did psychotic become schizophrenic. Anyway, the AZ shooter of the senator wasn't even schizophrenic. He was an angry man drinking alot. Why doesn't the Colorado Holmes not have the same nose and ears match. Yet, no one questions including the ones that know him. The whole story doesn't add up. If you want to say he acted so helter skeler in his decision; it doesn't matter. There is no schizophrenia or bipolar that would cause you to be that illusional yet so calculated. I don't care what mental disease you have; it doesn't make you kill kill kill and kill. My psychaitrist said why do they want to label such a crime to hurt so many people and their families. Why don't they call it what it is: evil. A schizophrenic illusionary cannot pull that off. Have you ever seen it in the history of mental illness. Go visit and take a tour in a mental hospital while a schizophrenic is that delusional and come back and read the report on this guy. Yes, I thought all that and wrote it and everyone laughed at me that i emailed.. What do I know? Nothing; I'm crazy and everyone normal believes that sh.t. It can't be done by one person. If he was so damn crazy according to everyone; why didn't they do something. The guy said he acted like any normal person talking about the games the day before the crime. The instructor said he did listen and didn't learn and seem to be off in the home area when going to school. REally, the sought him out because he was so good and intelligent. What type of bologna is that. They have notes from a trash where he spoke to his psych about killing. Really, his psych is that stupid after this guys kills so many? What kind of crap is that? How do you reenact a scene when you haven't seen the movie?
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I think you are exactly right. Or he was so brainwashed by whoever that he thought he was starring in a movie and went in to do what he did. That could explain why he asked in jail (if it is true) how did the movie end. I mean just look at the story from the "witnesses". They are so scripted and either so over dramatized you can tell it is fake or they are almost seeming excited about the whole thing happening.
 Quoting: fearandloathingbutterfly


The witness accounts still throw me off a bit. I think I would be more emotional and shaken up but it's hard to say, I guess, until you actually are put in that situation.
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Before I thought anything of the case being fishy, the first couple witness accounts I heard, somehow seemed weird to me. They gave me a weird feeling and I couldn't quite figure out why. Then as I listened to more over the coming days, I got the impression that the people's emotions seemed kinda off. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm a pretty empathetic person and usually read people well.

Granted, I don't know exactly how I would react if I had been in the theater, but these people seem like they just rambled on and didn't show the emotion of sadness that I know I would. Just odd to me but maybe they're all in shock? I don't know.
 Quoting: Mary137


Thank you. When this story first broke, I thought it was just too over the top..I mean, a midnite premier of batman, really?? And in Colorado? Too obvious. But then for days the big three MSM were johnny on the spot with live coverage at the scene for days. And the "eye witnesses" interviewed were all acting very strange to have literally JUST been through what should have been the most traumatic experience of their lives..one would think they would be too upset to even GIVE interviews so quickly. The body language, attitudes, everything was just surreal to have been nearly killed while watching kids and innocent people killed all around them. Think back to Columbine and other shootings where the media was in their faces with cameras..and they couldnt even talk..just cry on their friends and family. Yeah, this whole thing stinks.
"The sick individual finds himself at home with all other similarly sick individuals. The whole culture is geared to this kind of pathology. The result is that the average individual does not experience the separateness and isolation the fully schizophrenic person feels. He feels at ease among those who suffer from the same deformation; in fact, it is the fully sane person who feels isolated in the insane society — and he may suffer so much from the incapacity to communicate that it is he who may become psychotic"..Erich Fromm
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The motive for the frame is to tamper with his father, an expert witness against bank fraud.
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This is actually bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1387941


OK. Care to elaborate?
 Quoting: holymerrymotherofgod


Sure. The source is this bullshit is Sorcha Faal who is a hoaxer.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1387941


Well, if it's bullshit then why does he have a profile on linkedin.com?

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Statistical Modeling / Data Mining: Developed statistical models for a variety of Fair Isaac products including Telco Fraud/Risk Manager, Falcon ID and Falcon Online Access. Also familiar with other FI products including Falcon Fraud Manager and Falcon Fraud Manager for Merchants. Currently managing a Falcon Fraud Manager Credit Team.
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I have suspicions of the whole thing. I see the report of the father is fake. I just know it doesn't add up. I am bipolar and I have schizophrenia friends. I am sick of evil being blamed on us. It was one thing to classify them pscyhotic but now they make us wear it and we have to live out here and hide our diseases locked in a closet and not tell anybody/ If you want to work, you have to hear this story in the breakroom and hear everyone discuss the disease in elaborate detail that you have. You can't say anything because they will be scared of you and want you gone. We have to put up with the lies and the idenity they give us. How did psychotic become schizophrenic. Anyway, the AZ shooter of the senator wasn't even schizophrenic. He was an angry man drinking alot. Why doesn't the Colorado Holmes not have the same nose and ears match. Yet, no one questions including the ones that know him. The whole story doesn't add up. If you want to say he acted so helter skeler in his decision; it doesn't matter. There is no schizophrenia or bipolar that would cause you to be that illusional yet so calculated. I don't care what mental disease you have; it doesn't make you kill kill kill and kill. My psychaitrist said why do they want to label such a crime to hurt so many people and their families. Why don't they call it what it is: evil. A schizophrenic illusionary cannot pull that off. Have you ever seen it in the history of mental illness. Go visit and take a tour in a mental hospital while a schizophrenic is that delusional and come back and read the report on this guy. Yes, I thought all that and wrote it and everyone laughed at me that i emailed.. What do I know? Nothing; I'm crazy and everyone normal believes that sh.t. It can't be done by one person. If he was so damn crazy according to everyone; why didn't they do something. The guy said he acted like any normal person talking about the games the day before the crime. The instructor said he did listen and didn't learn and seem to be off in the home area when going to school. REally, the sought him out because he was so good and intelligent. What type of bologna is that. They have notes from a trash where he spoke to his psych about killing. Really, his psych is that stupid after this guys kills so many? What kind of crap is that? How do you reenact a scene when you haven't seen the movie?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20418405


^^THIS

My mother suffered from bipolar my entire life. Even in the midst of her worst episode, she was entirely incapable of HURTING her beloved child. That just doesn't happen. You might be crazy but you are not crazy, I hear what you are saying and sympathize for you, sweet soul. It is both a blessing and a curse - I hated it as a child but now as an adult, I realize how strong my mother's illness made me. I only wish more people understood how mental illness really works and that we could talk openly about it without the stigma, I am embarrassed to tell all but my closest friends about my experiences as a child of mental illness, lest they think I'm "crazy" too (the doctors diagnosed me with it too at 14 - aren't ALL 14 year olds irrational and unpredictable?! DUH).

Every time I hear "oh, he was mentally ill" I cringe inside.

OP may be off but something is definitely up with all of this, it's all too convenient. Why didn't the guy kill himself? No one commits an act like that and simply wanders outside calmly to be caught. Come on, how stupid do they think we are? Don't answer that, we all know.
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Pretty good synopsis... beyond a shadow of a doubt, there were at least two others... he was brainwashed, or mind-controlled, or drugged, for several months before the "operation". He is being used by "someone" as leverage. The details are not clear yet, but no one should relent until its all out in the open. Whomever is behind this must be exposed. We will never be free as a people until they are.
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this is not your original conspiracy theory at all, many people have been saying this for the last two weeks
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I've been thinking it for two weeks. The more people who think like I do the better I feel about the things I think. If they think them first, I feel even better.

There is a boy sitting in jail accused of the worst shooting in US history. I'm not trying to write something original. I'm trying to figure out something true. Is my scenario true?
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I think he might just be a serial killer.
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You mean he's done this before?

(you may have confused mass murderer with serial killer, you little ignoramus you.)
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this is not your original conspiracy theory at all, many people have been saying this for the last two weeks
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I've been thinking it for two weeks. The more people who think like I do the better I feel about the things I think. If they think them first, I feel even better.

There is a boy sitting in jail accused of the worst shooting in US history. I'm not trying to write something original. I'm trying to figure out something true. Is my scenario true?
 Quoting: holymerrymotherofgod


Unfortunately, this will soon all be "swept under the rug" and considered old news. NONE of it makes sense to me, between "his" actions, the witnesses, etc.
In a room full of lies the truth looks insane.
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This was all a Mossad cover up to deviate attention from the Zionist Stephen Stein used needles case. Stephen Stein was busted infecting gentiles with HIV, a lot of Zionist doctors do this. This was part of a Zionist conspiracy to control America and spread HIV in the USA. This is why they needed to fabricate this James Holmes massacre to cover it up.
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Re: what do you think of my james holmes conspiracy theory?
It is fairly simple.



What started me thinking like this is...The Joker has green hair. A Batman obsessed lunatic with the patience to teach himself how to reload and fire four unfamiliar weapons in gloves and mask, and rig "sophisticated" explosives it takes days to break down isn't going to dye his hair the wrong color.



Or maybe frame up guy isn't a Batman fan.

Questions? Comments? Evidence to blow my theory out of the water?
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At the same time, if they are going to create this elaborate frame job, you would think they would have also known the Joker's hair is green. Everyone knows the Joker's hair is green.
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Like i said, it was too much work to frame JH for dying his own hair green as well as the shooting. It would risk exposing the frame up guy buying the dye.

My conspiracy is actually simpler than most and more plausible than the notion that a high IQ schizophrenic would purchase weapons and kill innocents because of a movie trailer.
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this is not your original conspiracy theory at all, many people have been saying this for the last two weeks
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I've been thinking it for two weeks. The more people who think like I do the better I feel about the things I think. If they think them first, I feel even better.

There is a boy sitting in jail accused of the worst shooting in US history. I'm not trying to write something original. I'm trying to figure out something true. Is my scenario true?
 Quoting: holymerrymotherofgod


Unfortunately, this will soon all be "swept under the rug" and considered old news. NONE of it makes sense to me, between "his" actions, the witnesses, etc.
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Why should it be swept under the rug? Why shouldn't it go to a jury trial? If the state cannot PROVE that it was JH wearing that mask and shooting those kids then a jury can't convict JH.

What if he really innocent? Someone shot little children in a movie theater. I don't want that swept under a rug.
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This is stupid. Hes crazy. Point. Blank. Period. No conspiracy. People talking about his hair color... he had nothing in common with the joker but the name. No purple suit, no makeup.. he was just a crazy person that planned to kill. Give him life or the chair an be done with it.
 Quoting: realistic 12790418


This is stupid. Hes crazy. Point. Blank. Period. No conspiracy. People talking about his hair color... he had nothing in common with the joker but the name. No purple suit, no makeup.. he was just a crazy person that planned to kill. Give him life or the chair an be done with it.
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"Crazy people" don't generally kill. Please don't imply that mental illness is dangerous. US legal system has a requirement that the accused be PROVED guilty, and part of establishing guilt is establishing a MOTIVE. "He was just crazy" is a motive Hitler might have for eliminating Holmes, but not a motive Holmes might have for killing theater goers.
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This was all a Mossad cover up to deviate attention from the Zionist Stephen Stein used needles case. Stephen Stein was busted infecting gentiles with HIV, a lot of Zionist doctors do this. This was part of a Zionist conspiracy to control America and spread HIV in the USA. This is why they needed to fabricate this James Holmes massacre to cover it up.
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Are you mocking the death of children in a Batman movie? Is that what provoked this hilarity?
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definitely closer to the truth than what the "news" outlets are reporting.
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Definitely. "News" companies have a First Amendment right to spread disinformation ie LIE TO US in the guise of reporting the news. The US Supreme Court has ruled so. There is no reason to believe that what "journalists" report is anything but what their corporate owners have given them to say.
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This has been my thinking basically since the beginning. He is innocent.
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Very nicely said, both of you. I think NAMI and other advocacy groups for the mentally ill should be making statements. Mentally ill people, especially schizophrenics, are NOT MORE VIOLENT than the general public. Schizophrenics are generally mild, gentle people, sometimes very bright, very capable of success in the world with correct medical treatment or even without it.

This young man was functioning at a higher level than most people, in spite of what may have been schizophrenia. It's terribly unfair to use the crime he was accused of to indict ALL schizophrenics of violent tendencies. There is no evidence that this is at all true.




I have suspicions of the whole thing. I see the report of the father is fake. I just know it doesn't add up. I am bipolar and I have schizophrenia friends. I am sick of evil being blamed on us. It was one thing to classify them pscyhotic but now they make us wear it and we have to live out here and hide our diseases locked in a closet and not tell anybody/ If you want to work, you have to hear this story in the breakroom and hear everyone discuss the disease in elaborate detail that you have. You can't say anything because they will be scared of you and want you gone. We have to put up with the lies and the idenity they give us. How did psychotic become schizophrenic. Anyway, the AZ shooter of the senator wasn't even schizophrenic. He was an angry man drinking alot. Why doesn't the Colorado Holmes not have the same nose and ears match. Yet, no one questions including the ones that know him. The whole story doesn't add up. If you want to say he acted so helter skeler in his decision; it doesn't matter. There is no schizophrenia or bipolar that would cause you to be that illusional yet so calculated. I don't care what mental disease you have; it doesn't make you kill kill kill and kill. My psychaitrist said why do they want to label such a crime to hurt so many people and their families. Why don't they call it what it is: evil. A schizophrenic illusionary cannot pull that off. Have you ever seen it in the history of mental illness. Go visit and take a tour in a mental hospital while a schizophrenic is that delusional and come back and read the report on this guy. Yes, I thought all that and wrote it and everyone laughed at me that i emailed.. What do I know? Nothing; I'm crazy and everyone normal believes that sh.t. It can't be done by one person. If he was so damn crazy according to everyone; why didn't they do something. The guy said he acted like any normal person talking about the games the day before the crime. The instructor said he did listen and didn't learn and seem to be off in the home area when going to school. REally, the sought him out because he was so good and intelligent. What type of bologna is that. They have notes from a trash where he spoke to his psych about killing. Really, his psych is that stupid after this guys kills so many? What kind of crap is that? How do you reenact a scene when you haven't seen the movie?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20418405


^^THIS

My mother suffered from bipolar my entire life. Even in the midst of her worst episode, she was entirely incapable of HURTING her beloved child. That just doesn't happen. You might be crazy but you are not crazy, I hear what you are saying and sympathize for you, sweet soul. It is both a blessing and a curse - I hated it as a child but now as an adult, I realize how strong my mother's illness made me. I only wish more people understood how mental illness really works and that we could talk openly about it without the stigma, I am embarrassed to tell all but my closest friends about my experiences as a child of mental illness, lest they think I'm "crazy" too (the doctors diagnosed me with it too at 14 - aren't ALL 14 year olds irrational and unpredictable?! DUH).

Every time I hear "oh, he was mentally ill" I cringe inside.

OP may be off but something is definitely up with all of this, it's all too convenient. Why didn't the guy kill himself? No one commits an act like that and simply wanders outside calmly to be caught. Come on, how stupid do they think we are? Don't answer that, we all know.
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I think you are exactly right. Or he was so brainwashed by whoever that he thought he was starring in a movie and went in to do what he did. That could explain why he asked in jail (if it is true) how did the movie end. I mean just look at the story from the "witnesses". They are so scripted and either so over dramatized you can tell it is fake or they are almost seeming excited about the whole thing happening.
 Quoting: fearandloathingbutterfly


The witness accounts still throw me off a bit. I think I would be more emotional and shaken up but it's hard to say, I guess, until you actually are put in that situation.
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Before I thought anything of the case being fishy, the first couple witness accounts I heard, somehow seemed weird to me. They gave me a weird feeling and I couldn't quite figure out why. Then as I listened to more over the coming days, I got the impression that the people's emotions seemed kinda off. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm a pretty empathetic person and usually read people well.

Granted, I don't know exactly how I would react if I had been in the theater, but these people seem like they just rambled on and didn't show the emotion of sadness that I know I would. Just odd to me but maybe they're all in shock? I don't know.
 Quoting: Mary137


Thank you. When this story first broke, I thought it was just too over the top..I mean, a midnite premier of batman, really?? And in Colorado? Too obvious. But then for days the big three MSM were johnny on the spot with live coverage at the scene for days. And the "eye witnesses" interviewed were all acting very strange to have literally JUST been through what should have been the most traumatic experience of their lives..one would think they would be too upset to even GIVE interviews so quickly. The body language, attitudes, everything was just surreal to have been nearly killed while watching kids and innocent people killed all around them. Think back to Columbine and other shootings where the media was in their faces with cameras..and they couldnt even talk..just cry on their friends and family. Yeah, this whole thing stinks.
 Quoting: Five-Star Bandit


The eyewitnesses could have been actors who were prepared for their "eyewitness to a shooting role" for a drill held for local emergency medicine students that was scheduled and held nearby in Aurora on the day after the shooting.
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The motive for the frame is to tamper with his father, an expert witness against bank fraud.
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This is actually bullshit.
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OK. Care to elaborate?
 Quoting: holymerrymotherofgod


Sure. The source is this bullshit is Sorcha Faal who is a hoaxer.

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Seems like disinfo. It sure looks like his father.

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It looks like none of this happened.

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