Questions about "netiquette". | |
Jenn++ User ID: 17862 United States 12/26/2005 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's up to you. To "win" at playing GLP, the OP must have the most replies in a thread. Some think the "reply to view" ratio should be the winning attribute, but that is still up for debate. Extra points are awarded for links to a claim someone makes on GLP. Negative points (and more, see below) for threats, racisim, sexism, and obscene material. Flaming is discouraged but often results in a higher reply count increasing your odds of winning. (go figure) One word answers , one avatar answers, or a mere cut and paste from a knowledgeable website shows ones lack of creativity. Drunk or stoned GLPing is discouraged. A GLP ban may occur from spamming or another as yet unnamed GLP atrocity. GLP addiction is a common illness to the posters here, and GLP 12 step programs are forming in every country worldwide. ****************FYI******************** All IP addresses are logged anon or not. One could easily do a tracert (trace route) to the ISP, then query their system logs for the date, time, and IP address of the offending poster. A TCP/IP analyzer and skill with Cisco routers could also be employed to locate the offending IP address. The FBI investigates interstate crimes commited on the Internet. **************************************** Have fun and I hope this helps. Ciao, Jenn Life is short, make everyday special |
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SHEEP (OP) User ID: 53850 Canada 12/26/2005 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1...2...3 "My tractors broke, my dog has fleas, My girl walked out the door, And there's no netiquette, on the internet anymore" I think, possibly, I am losing my mind. Where the eagle glides ascending There's an ancient river bending Down the timeless gorge of changes Where sleeplessness awaits. |
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SHEEP (OP) User ID: 53850 Canada 12/26/2005 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>Have fun and I hope this helps.<< Jenn: Wow. Thankyou for your thoughtful answer. I'm not sure what to make of "winning" because I just thought of this as a place to exchange ideas, and try to be a light. I am having fun. Where the eagle glides ascending There's an ancient river bending Down the timeless gorge of changes Where sleeplessness awaits. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12494 United States 12/26/2005 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "One word answers , one avatar answers, or a mere cut and paste from a knowledgeable website shows ones lack of creativity." That is highly arguable. Sometimes one word answers eptiomize the 'soul of wit'. Appropriate cut-and-pastes from a knowledgeable website often reflect a wearied attempt to edify the intelocutor. For example, every time I hear the argument "You can't disprove the existence of <insert your favorite claim>", I tend to post links and definitions to logic, the burden of proof, and logical fallacies. I've wasted too much time trying to argue with people that don't understand the merest fundamentals of reason, so I just give them the books, and hope that they are willing to educate themselves. |
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Older Floyder User ID: 55487 United States 12/26/2005 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with Jenn++ that some do take a "scoreboard" attitude too far. It sure does feel nice to have a thread grow and stay fun and on track though ;) You have done a good job on this one Sheep, even a country western song! Did you mention your pickup truck in that song? Etiquette for Country Western song; 1. Mention your (Chevy/Ford) Pickup Truck. 2. Mention your Dog. 3. Mention your Girlfriend |
SHEEP (OP) User ID: 53850 Canada 12/26/2005 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dilatoriness: I'm sure there are. I know in the world outside of cyberspace there are. I'm also a little naive (here in this forum) because I don't know the players and it's easy to mistake sarcasm for something else in this place. If anyone spits in my soup I won't eat it. >>1. Mention your (Chevy/Ford) Pickup Truck.<< Old Floyder: In Canada, the handbook says "pickup truck references may be replaced by tractor references, as long as it is clear that the tractor is a John Deere" I didn't mention the make in the lyrics though, so 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Where the eagle glides ascending There's an ancient river bending Down the timeless gorge of changes Where sleeplessness awaits. |
Jenn++ User ID: 17862 United States 12/26/2005 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12494 said, "For example, every time I hear the argument "You can't disprove the existence of <insert your favorite claim>", I tend to post links and definitions to logic, the burden of proof, and logical fallacies." Please tell me it's not the "I read it on the Internet so it has to be true". Because the 'net is so vast and thousands of servers have access to mega-terrabytes of information, anyone can easily publish on this medium. Even the news agencies don't get the story straight at the beginning of a crisis. Think of the 'net like your snail mail delivered at home, there is usually a pile of junk mail with a few legit pieces. Life is short, make everyday special |
SHEEP (OP) User ID: 53850 Canada 12/26/2005 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>or a mere cut and paste from a knowledgeable website shows ones lack of creativity.<< Jenn: Now I see why I got called a c and p fundie on a different thread. I was hand-typing out bible verses and they must have been accusing me of cutting and pasting. Well, for what it's worth, every word was typed out. Don't want brownie points, it's just that I did have to do some work. Where the eagle glides ascending There's an ancient river bending Down the timeless gorge of changes Where sleeplessness awaits. |
Older Floyder User ID: 55487 United States 12/26/2005 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SHEEP, They have Country Western in Canada? Sure that it is not Country Northern? I have not heard a tractor mentioned in a C&W song since I stopped playing them old 45's. Unless you mean a tractor-trailer (Mac/Kenworth) I can hear that little lyrics voice going: "She thinks my tractors sexy" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12494 United States 12/26/2005 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "12494 you sound a bit war-weary. I know it may appear simple but try to gain some joy from communicating with people you like." I normally do. I love all you woo-woos, but I've had a busy week. Xmas and all. In fact, It's hard to imagine life without the merry peals of side-splitting laughter, and tears of hilarious joy I've had thanks to the woo-woos around here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12494 United States 12/26/2005 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good goD no! Why would you think that? "Because the 'net is so vast and thousands of servers have access to mega-terrabytes of information, anyone can easily publish on this medium. Even the news agencies don't get the story straight at the beginning of a crisis." Calm down. Slow down. Don't get your knickers in a twist, hon. I am by no means claiming that. Please keep your strawman arguments under control. Ready? Calm Now? Books have been published. Some of them are available on the internet. Still rational, hon? These publications serve as reference materials that anyone can access. OK? Are you gonna throw dishes at me or accuse me of verbally raping you? I'd rather skip all that irrational stuff. |
SHEEP (OP) User ID: 53850 Canada 12/26/2005 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Older Floyder: Neil Young "Famer's Song", Murray Mclauglin "The Farmer Song" both reference tractors. Two Canadian boys. Actually more folk, then country. There's a local band called "Captain Tractor". And if I'm not mistaken, it's an American entertainer who sang "John Deere green, Billy Bob and Charlene" or some variation of that. No tractor reference per se, but implied. I won't belabour the point, my next endeavour will have Chev/Ford pickup truck. As for Country North music, if you lived here, you would know that we divide our country east/west. People in western Canada do not like the central gov't. that's in the east. That was a paid political announcement by the Canada/International Netiquette Foundation. Thank you for your support. 12494: >>Books have been published. Some of them are available on the internet.<< So for the sake of discussion, you approve cut and paste? I sure got lambasted for it and I didn't even do it. Where the eagle glides ascending There's an ancient river bending Down the timeless gorge of changes Where sleeplessness awaits. |
Older Floyder User ID: 55487 United States 12/26/2005 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yikes SHEEP, I was making fun of the usual lack of knowledge about Canada ;-) You do use a dog sled or snowmobile to get to work right? Thats where the whoops emoticon, and then the reference to a recent popular song that referenced a tractor, followed by my head pounding into a wall :-) I live in Minnesota, and the Bare Naked Ladies made a joke at a show here that when they came into our town they thought they were having Canadian Deja Vu. |
SHEEP (OP) User ID: 53850 Canada 12/26/2005 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | <<I live in Minnesota>> Older Floyder: Yeah, I think your winters suck enough you could be honorary Albertans. Irony is no snow at all, on the ground this winter, and a high today of 10 C (that's 50 F for our American friends). Off Topic: Barenaked Ladies covered a song by a Canadian artist, Bruce Cockburn, called "Lovers In A Dangerous Time". In it is the line: You've got to kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight. On topic: That's kind of my hope here. Kick at the darkness, learn some forum manners, and try to make the world a better place. Not that I'm saying it's a bad place...that's for others to give me as their opinion. Where the eagle glides ascending There's an ancient river bending Down the timeless gorge of changes Where sleeplessness awaits. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12494 United States 12/26/2005 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sheep wrote: "So for the sake of discussion, you approve cut and paste? I sure got lambasted for it and I didn't even do it." The deal is, you're supposed to copy and paste a small portion of the article (maybe a paragraph), and then post a link to the rest. This comes under Fair Use, but consult ambulance chaser before taking my word for it. People will not read not read lengthy tomes CnP'd verbatim anyway. When you do copy N paste, add plenty of white space. That means plenty of paragraph breaks. Even more than you would use for a standard typewritten page. Like this. Cetain other conventions: Indicate *bold-faced* letters by bracketing them with asterisks. Indicate _underlined words_ by bracketing them with underscore characters. Indicate /italicized words/ by bracketing them with the right-slant character. Other people will contradict me, but if you follow these conventions, you will never be misunderstood by anyone worth worrying about. The reason I know this is because I asked people - just as you have done. You've done well sir. You are bound to get lots of abuse when you ask newbie questions, but not nearly as much as if you don't ask. |
SHEEP nli (OP) User ID: 53850 Canada 12/26/2005 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. I'm learning so much my head is going to explode. I have to go now and spend time with my family. Does a person just let a thread die, does it take a life of it's own, do you just wait and see if anyone is interested anymore? I have learned that you do not bump your own thread. I didn't even know what bump meant, a couple of weeks ago. I thought it was bad! Thankyou everyone, for now, I have enjoyed this, and I guess time will tell if this discussion will continue. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12494 United States 12/26/2005 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sheep wrote: "Thanks. I'm learning so much my head is going to explode. I have to go now and spend time with my family. Does a person just let a thread die, does it take a life of it's own, do you just wait and see if anyone is interested anymore?" Threads will either take a life of their own, or die of neglect. I typically ignore threads that get too long because they almost always drift off-topic. My advice is that you start a new thread from time to time when you have a new question. Some anonymous poster will almost always attack you, but just ignore them and let them have their juvenile fun. Regards, etc. |
Dilatoriness User ID: 51202 Austria 12/26/2005 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " In fact, It's hard to imagine life without the merry peals of side-splitting laughter, and tears of hilarious joy I've had thanks to the woo-woos around here. " Sounds somehow scoffing, doesn't it? I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
SHEEP (OP) User ID: 53850 Canada 12/26/2005 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12494: >>I typically ignore threads that get too long because they almost always drift off-topic.<< Okay. I will try to keep this on track. Dilatoriness: >>Sounds somehow scoffing, doesn't it?<< I'm not sure. I find it hard sometimes to get a read on people. I also find it hard to know who they are addressing themselves to, at times. Where the eagle glides ascending There's an ancient river bending Down the timeless gorge of changes Where sleeplessness awaits. |
Jenn++ User ID: 17862 United States 12/27/2005 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12494 said, " Calm down. Slow down. Don't get your knickers in a twist, hon." That would be "don't get my panties in a know", darlin' 12494 said, "Please keep your strawman arguments under control." Call me naive, but I had to look up the definition of a "straw man argument". [link to en.wikipedia.org] I believe everything I read on wikipedia. lol :) 12494 said, "Are you gonna throw dishes at me or accuse me of verbally raping you?" OMG, I am not a violent person hon. I can't ever remeber accusing anyone of verbally raping me. Now back to the topic. Good debates are intellectually stimulating. It's indicative of more class if a poster refrains from name calling or flaming. Life is short, make everyday special |