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BREAKING : Court Upholds Domestic Drone Use in Arrest of American Citizen

 
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Court Upholds Domestic Drone Use in Arrest of American Citizen

A North Dakota court has preliminarily upheld the first-ever use of an unmanned drone to assist in the arrest of an American citizen.

A judge denied a request to dismiss charges Wednesday against Rodney Brossart, a man arrested last year after a 16-hour standoff with police at his Lakota, N.D., ranch. Brossart's lawyer argued that law enforcement's "warrantless use of [an] unmanned military-like surveillance aircraft" and "outrageous governmental conduct" warranted dismissal of the case.

Court records state that last June, six cows wandered onto Brossart's 3,000 acre farm, about 60 miles west of Grand Forks. Brossart allegedly refused to return the cows, which led to a long, armed standoff with the Grand Forks police department. At some point during the standoff, Homeland Security, through an agreement with local police, offered up the use of an unmanned predator drone, which "was used for surveillance," according to the court documents.

Grand Forks SWAT team chief Bill Macki said in an interview that the drone was used to ensure Brossart and his family members, who were also charged, didn't leave the farm and were unarmed during the arresting raid.

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Some estimates suggest that there may be as many as 30,000 unmanned drones operated in the United States by 2020 for uses such as wildfire containment and surveillance, law enforcement, and surveying.
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The country is fucked. I am shopping for a new home...if I can get out.
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They didn't uphold shit.

They just said that the use of drones in that case wasn't enough to dismiss all charges, which is correct.
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The country is fucked. I am shopping for a new home...if I can get out.
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I have a scary feeling that this is going to be a global, worldwide thing - I think the UN will start this just for "peace-keeping" purposes.

Sure puts the "hunger games" into a whole new perspective to me!

Maybe the only place to go is "down"... underground cities, etc. :(

~ Juju
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Cool!

The only ones leaving will be law breaking riff raff!


Dig it!


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If it makes me a safer citizen, I am all for domestic drones. I for one welcome our drone overlords.
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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If it makes me a safer citizen, I am all for domestic drones. I for one welcome our drone overlords.
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I assume you voted for Obama?
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson
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They didn't uphold shit.

They just said that the use of drones in that case wasn't enough to dismiss all charges, which is correct.
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The OP likes to embellish an otherwise dull story. He must write part time for the Enquirer. But I do have to admit that his thread deserves one(1) star.
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C'mon luddites, technology marches forward.

We must stop the horseless carriage or it will destroy the buggywhip industry.
Humans cannot survive moving at more than 40 miles per hour.
They won't be able to breath.
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If it makes me a safer citizen, I am all for domestic drones. I for one welcome our drone overlords.
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I assume you voted for Obama?
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I assume you vote and do not know what satire is.
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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The Antichrist. And he shall have power to make fire come down from heaven in the sight of men!
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Cool!

The only ones leaving will be law breaking riff raff!


Dig it!


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then a new law will be passed
making half of those left forced to become criminals.
but like always before,
the lack of basic needs will simply suffice...

who is leeching whom?

easy to point fingers now
but maybe you are next.
who are you going to call for help
if the rest of us are already dead?
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The Antichrist. And he shall have power to make fire come down from heaven in the sight of men!
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That'd be Dick Cheney, right?
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If it makes me a safer citizen, I am all for domestic drones. I for one welcome our drone overlords.
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I assume you voted for Obama?
 Quoting: Fire Watch


I assume you vote and do not know what satire is.
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Sorry my friend!!
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Anyone happen to know how one of these will stand up to a Barrett? Or the asshole that comes looking for it?
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If it makes me a safer citizen, I am all for domestic drones. I for one welcome our drone overlords.
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I assume you voted for Obama?
 Quoting: Fire Watch


I assume you vote and do not know what satire is.
 Quoting: Hawk-02


Sorry my friend!!
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lol, no problem.
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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The country is fucked. I am shopping for a new home...if I can get out.
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Love it or leave it ... don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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Anyone happen to know how one of these will stand up to a Barrett? Or the asshole that comes looking for it?
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Drones can't be shot down.
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The Antichrist. And he shall have power to make fire come down from heaven in the sight of men!
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That'd be Dick Cheney, right?
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Dick Cheney, great American patriot. Shaddup.
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Isn't North Dakota where they are doing all this preparation for "civil unrest before the elections?"
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The country is fucked. I am shopping for a new home...if I can get out.
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Let's make a GLP bug out compound.
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The country is fucked. I am shopping for a new home...if I can get out.
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Let's make a GLP bug out compound.
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I am working on that. I have several friends doing the same thing believe it or not.
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They would have sent a Helicopter to the scene anyway.
What's the difference?
The police save a bit of money by not needing to fuel a heli and take it to the scene.

I'm not supporting it, but I just dont see the difference between that and the police sending a helicopter there with camera, infra-red tech etc.
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They would have sent a Helicopter to the scene anyway.
What's the difference?
The police save a bit of money by not needing to fuel a heli and take it to the scene.

I'm not supporting it, but I just dont see the difference between that and the police sending a helicopter there with camera, infra-red tech etc.
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True.
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[link to www.wday.com]

According to court documents, when served with a search warrant by Nelson County deputies, Rodney refused to give the cattle back and said if they came onto his property they wouldn't be coming back.

When Rodney was arrested that day, he allegedly resisted and had to be tazed. His daughter, Abby, allegedly struck a sheriff's deputy and was also arrested.

After being placed in a squad car, Rodney allegedly caused over $1,000-worth of damage to the car.

When officers returned to the home later in the evening, they were met by the three brothers with long rifles and were allegedly threatened. The officers then fell back and called in reinforcements from the Grand Forks SWAT team and other agencies.
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Cool!

The only ones leaving will be law breaking riff raff!


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EAT shit and die, you NAZI SWINE!!!
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[link to www.wday.com]

According to court documents, when served with a search warrant by Nelson County deputies, Rodney refused to give the cattle back and said if they came onto his property they wouldn't be coming back.

When Rodney was arrested that day, he allegedly resisted and had to be tazed. His daughter, Abby, allegedly struck a sheriff's deputy and was also arrested.

After being placed in a squad car, Rodney allegedly caused over $1,000-worth of damage to the car.

When officers returned to the home later in the evening, they were met by the three brothers with long rifles and were allegedly threatened. The officers then fell back and called in reinforcements from the Grand Forks SWAT team and other agencies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


Mental Note: Do not threaten.... DO.
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The country is fucked. I am shopping for a new home...if I can get out.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


I have a scary feeling that this is going to be a global, worldwide thing - I think the UN will start this just for "peace-keeping" purposes.

Sure puts the "hunger games" into a whole new perspective to me!

Maybe the only place to go is "down"... underground cities, etc. :(

~ Juju
 Quoting: *HAARP Lady*


Yeah apparently the Victorian Police in Australia are starting to use them soon.

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