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Are we slaves that were created by 'lower gods' or Aliens from a different dimension? Are we slaves that were created to work for them? sort

 
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Its a very sophisticated system very carefully crafted and




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Are we slaves that were created by 'lower gods' or Aliens from a different dimension? Are we slaves that were created to work for them? sort of like honey bees?

a question to all, please help me understand. what is that thing that gives the elite's paper money its power? what is that thing that SPIRITUALY binds is to this physical matrix??!

Response 1:

Indulgence for centuries and inherited wealth that has condensed into a power wealth belief system. It can be broken. Ultimately, there is a divine hand but delegated to lower management as far as implementation. Man does have free will. The belief system is as strong as the trust in that control system, if trust and integrity of the system fails, so does the power and the belief.

Response 2:

This is part of a reply on another blog that I gave to A similar question. It doesn't answer your question directly but rather has a go at the whole myth.

Through the notion of any form of designer we arrive at original sin, the curse of women that has bedeviled their lives for thousands of years it simply did not happen. If, as science has now proven, we evolved from earlier lifeforms it unequivocally did not happen. No original sin no need for the gnashing of teeth nor a sacrificial victim to redeem oneself.

Origen gives it away, one must presume inadvertently, when he states that it was written 'with the knowledge of the times'. Through this method we arrive at taking the Bible as a metaphor. One is immediately moved to ask for what? We also arrive at what i view as a latent homosexual basis for the Bible, the narcissism of men, faith and their Bible. If we can be allowed to use metaphor as a basis for reading the book, as the church permits himself, then the Bible looks a totally different creature. Up to and including Immaculate Conception.

God the male creates the first human being from dust and it is of course a male but there is no sexual content. Homoerotic denial and maternal envy, if we have evolved it's been many, many, many steps down the evolutionary ladder since since any form of spontaneous reproduction has been possible.

Vaginal envy. However Adam is penetrated to retrieve a rib in order to create Eve this also ties in with the maternal envy above. It is also when read as metaphor homoerotic. Hence the creation of women as a source of evil, death and destruction, two envies do not make a right may one say.

We must now complete the sexual cycle with the Immaculate Conception. Oedipal much! Mummy's having a baby but daddy doesn't have sex with her, and it's going to be a man that saves men from the evil women wrought upon the world.

I think my metaphors stand up to scrutiny better than the apologist's.

I then went on to examine the socio-political context of such a narcissistic and ultimately monarchical ploy.

When we are first born I don't feel I need to quote any medical authorities to say that we are programed to seek out mother. The smell of breastmilk alone would tend her to us as the only source of food available to us. Feelings of warmth and security after the trauma of being born and I would contend the beginnings of our own sense of uniqueness and self worth.

The Religious would claim that without that women abusing, child hating, child sacrificing, genocidal, sexually perverse and impure dictator they call God how can you have any morality? Well let's try take ourselves back to being that infant again. I cannot have done anything wrong Mother so I know you'll feed me. The very basis of innate morality.

Their absolutely deviant tale of children being born of and into sin totally abuses every human instinct we used to possess.

That is the symbolism of The Tree of Knowledge and the difference between right and wrong. The curch's avowed aim to tear children from the breast of women and deny us the true Milk Of Human Kidness and an understanding of ourselves as human beings.

So in putting this reading of events I would go on to say that yes if it were true you would be right. Nowadays such inbreeding is usually reserved for priests, politicians and monarchs.
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No ... People want food i think , so there humans , any means nescesary to get it.
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But it would be less awfull when they would make it nice at the same time.
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Re: Are we slaves that were created by 'lower gods' or Aliens from a different dimension? Are we slaves that were created to work for them? sort
Questions Posed:


Are we slaves that were created by 'lower gods' or Aliens from a different dimension?

Yes


Are we slaves that were created to work for them? sort of like honey bees?

Yes

a question to all, please help me understand. what is that thing that gives the elite's paper money its power?

People Stupidity ...

what is that thing that SPIRITUALY binds is to this physical matrix??!

The human Collective Spirit (Collective Karma)

Response 1:

Indulgence for centuries and inherited wealth that has condensed into a power wealth belief system.

It can be broken.

With the How to kill a city method

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Ultimately, there is a divine hand but delegated to lower management as far as implementation.

Man does have free will. ( Exactly ) as ca caged bird !



The belief system is as strong as the trust in that control system, if trust and integrity of the system fails, so does the power and the belief.

Religion Bullshit , politic bullshit , Society Bullshit

Myth !

Response 2:

This is part of a reply on another blog that I gave to A similar question. It doesn't answer your question directly but rather has a go at the whole myth.

Through the notion of any form of designer we arrive at original sin, the curse of women that has bedeviled their lives for thousands of years it simply did not happen. If, as science has now proven, we evolved from earlier lifeforms it unequivocally did not happen. No original sin no need for the gnashing of teeth nor a sacrificial victim to redeem oneself.

In that I differ , Originaly the RACE was androgenic (axesual ) split later into SEXES by genetic engineering
Wemen is still seen as a body part in the genetic memory and that is the reason..

Origen gives it away, one must presume inadvertently, when he states that it was written 'with the knowledge of the times'. Through this method we arrive at taking the Bible as a metaphor. One is immediately moved to ask for what? We also arrive at what i view as a latent homosexual basis for the Bible, the narcissism of men, faith and their Bible. If we can be allowed to use metaphor as a basis for reading the book, as the church permits himself, then the Bible looks a totally different creature. Up to and including Immaculate Conception.

Toal bullshit same rule from Ancient Egyptoan religion to ZEUZ sons , mythra , Cuculcan , its the same astrological based BULLSHIT !

God the male creates the first human being from dust and it is of course a male but there is no sexual content.

Its ANDROGENIC !

[link to www.sacred-sex.org]

Homoerotic denial and maternal envy, if we have evolved it's been many, many, many steps down the evolutionary ladder since since any form of spontaneous reproduction has been possible.

Vaginal envy. However Adam is penetrated to retrieve a rib in order to create Eve this also ties in with the maternal envy above. It is also when read as metaphor homoerotic. Hence the creation of women as a source of evil, death and destruction, two envies do not make a right may one say.

Men can breast feed ..

[link to www.vicioussummer.com]

We must now complete the sexual cycle with the Immaculate Conception. Oedipal much! Mummy's having a baby but daddy doesn't have sex with her, and it's going to be a man that saves men from the evil women wrought upon the world.

COOcKHOLD coverup!

I think my metaphors stand up to scrutiny better than the apologist's.

I then went on to examine the socio-political context of such a narcissistic and ultimately monarchical ploy.

When we are first born I don't feel I need to quote any medical authorities to say that we are programed to seek out mother. The smell of breastmilk alone would tend her to us as the only source of food available to us. Feelings of warmth and security after the trauma of being born and I would contend the beginnings of our own sense of uniqueness and self worth.

The Religious would claim that without that women abusing, child hating, child sacrificing, genocidal, sexually perverse and impure dictator they call God how can you have any morality? Well let's try take ourselves back to being that infant again. I cannot have done anything wrong Mother so I know you'll feed me. The very basis of innate morality.

Their absolutely deviant tale of children being born of and into sin totally abuses every human instinct we used to possess.

That is the symbolism of The Tree of Knowledge and the difference between right and wrong. The curch's avowed aim to tear children from the breast of women and deny us the true Milk Of Human Kidness and an understanding of ourselves as human beings.

Take the tree of ethernal life by assault then this GODS truly have a problem

So in putting this reading of events I would go on to say that yes if it were true you would be right. Nowadays such inbreeding is usually reserved for priests, politicians and monarchs.

Fuck them! Fuck their gods! Fuck their religion ..

KILL THEM ALL ! anger
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TO ALL,
WE ARE


5. Mortals of Time and Space

(445.2) 40:5.1 Mortals represent the last link in the chain of those beings who are called sons of God. The personal touch of the Original and Eternal Son passes on down through a series of decreasingly divine and increasingly human personalizations until there arrives a being much like yourselves, one you can see, hear, and touch. And then you are made spiritually aware of the great truth which your faith may grasp — sonship with the eternal God!

(445.3) 40:5.2 Likewise does the Original and Infinite Spirit, by a long series of decreasingly divine and increasingly human orders, draw nearer and nearer to the struggling creatures of the realms, reaching the limit of expression in the angels — than whom you were created but a little lower — who personally guard and guide you in the life journey of the mortal career of time.

(445.4) 40:5.3 God the Father does not, cannot, thus downstep himself to make such near personal contact with the almost limitless number of ascending creatures throughout the universe of universes. But the Father is not deprived of personal contact with his lowly creatures; you are not without the divine presence. Although God the Father cannot be with you by direct personality manifestation, he is in you and of you in the identity of the indwelling Thought Adjusters, the divine Monitors. Thus does the Father, who is the farthest from you in personality and in spirit, draw the nearest to you in the personality circuit and in the spirit touch of inner communion with the very souls of his mortal sons and daughters.

(445.5) 40:5.4 Spirit identification constitutes the secret of personal survival and determines the destiny of spiritual ascension. And since the Thought Adjusters are the only spirits of fusion potential to be identified with man during the life in the flesh, the mortals of time and space are primarily classified in accordance with their relation to these divine gifts, the indwelling Mystery Monitors. This classification is as follows:

(445.6) 40:5.5 1. Mortals of the transient or experiential Adjuster sojourn.

(445.7) 40:5.6 2. Mortals of the non-Adjuster-fusion types.

(445.8) 40:5.7 3. Mortals of Adjuster-fusion potential.

(445.9) 40:5.8 Series one — mortals of the transient or experiential Adjuster sojourn. This series designation is temporary for any evolving planet, being used during the early stages of all inhabited worlds except those of the second series.

(445.10) 40:5.9 Mortals of series one inhabit the worlds of space during the earlier epochs of the evolution of mankind and embrace the most primitive types of human minds. On many worlds like pre-Adamic Urantia great numbers of the higher and more advanced types of primitive men acquire survival capacity but fail to attain Adjuster fusion. For ages upon ages, before man’s ascent to the level of higher spiritual volition, the Adjusters occupy the minds of these struggling creatures during their short lives in the flesh, and the moment such will creatures are indwelt by Adjusters, the group guardian angels begin to function. While these mortals of the first series do not have personal guardians, they do have group custodians.

(446.1) 40:5.10 An experiential Adjuster remains with a primitive human being throughout his entire lifetime in the flesh. The Adjusters contribute much to the advancement of primitive men but are unable to form eternal unions with such mortals. This transient ministry of the Adjusters accomplishes two things: First, they gain valuable and actual experience in the nature and working of the evolutionary intellect, an experience which will be invaluable in connection with later contacts on other worlds with beings of higher development. Second, the transient sojourn of the Adjusters contributes much towards preparing their mortal subjects for possible subsequent Spirit fusion. All God-seeking souls of this type achieve eternal life through the spiritual embrace of the Mother Spirit of the local universe, thus becoming ascending mortals of the local universe regime. Many persons from pre-Adamic Urantia were thus advanced to the mansion worlds of Satania.

(446.2) 40:5.11 The Gods who ordained that mortal man should climb to higher levels of spiritual intelligence through long ages of evolutionary trials and tribulations, take note of his status and needs at every stage of the ascent; and always are they divinely fair and just, even charmingly merciful, in the final judgments of these struggling mortals of the early days of the evolving races.

(446.3) 40:5.12 Series two — mortals of the non-Adjuster-fusion types. These are specialized types of human beings who are not able to effect eternal union with their indwelling Adjusters. Type classification among the one-, two-, and three-brained races is not a factor in Adjuster fusion; all such mortals are akin, but these non-Adjuster-fusion types are a wholly different and markedly modified order of will creatures. Many of the nonbreathers belong to this series, and there are numerous other groups who do not ordinarily fuse with Adjusters.

(446.4) 40:5.13 Like series number one, each member of this group enjoys the ministry of a single Adjuster during lifetime in the flesh. During temporal life these Adjusters do everything for their subjects of temporary indwelling that is done on other worlds where the mortals are of fusion potential. The mortals of this second series are often indwelt by virgin Adjusters, but the higher human types are often in liaison with masterful and experienced Monitors.

(446.5) 40:5.14 In the ascendant plan for upstepping the animal-origin creatures, these beings enjoy the same devoted service of the Sons of God as is extended to the Urantia type of mortals. Seraphic co-operation with Adjusters on the nonfusion planets is just as fully provided as on the worlds of fusion potential; the guardians of destiny minister on such spheres just as on Urantia and similarly function at the time of mortal survival, at which time the surviving soul becomes Spirit fused.

(446.6) 40:5.15 When you encounter these modified mortal types on the mansion worlds, you will find no difficulty in communicating with them. There they speak the same system language but by a modified technique. These beings are identical with your order of creature life in spirit and personality manifestations, differing only in certain physical features and in the fact that they are nonfusible with Thought Adjusters.

(447.1) 40:5.16 As to just why this type of creature is never able to fuse with the Adjusters of the Universal Father, I am unable to say. Some of us incline to the belief that the Life Carriers, in their efforts to formulate beings capable of maintaining existence in an unusual planetary environment, are confronted with the necessity of making such radical modifications in the universe plan of intelligent will creatures that it becomes inherently impossible to bring about permanent union with the Adjusters. Often have we asked: Is this an intended or an unintended part of the ascension plan? but we have not found the answer.

(447.2) 40:5.17 Series three — mortals of Adjuster-fusion potential. All Father-fused mortals are of animal origin, just like the Urantia races. They embrace mortals of the one-brained, two-brained, and three-brained types of Adjuster-fusion potential. Urantians are of the intermediate or two-brained type, being in many ways humanly superior to the one-brained groups but definitely limited in comparison with the three-brained orders. These three types of physical-brain endowment are not factors in Adjuster bestowal, in seraphic service, or in any other phase of spirit ministry. The intellectual and spiritual differential between the three brain types characterizes individuals who are otherwise quite alike in mind endowment and spiritual potential, being greatest in the temporal life and tending to diminish as the mansion worlds are traversed one by one. From the system headquarters on, the progression of these three types is the same, and their eventual Paradise destiny is identical.

(447.3) 40:5.18 The unnumbered series. These narratives cannot possibly embrace all of the fascinating variations in the evolutionary worlds. You know that every tenth world is a decimal or experimental planet, but you know nothing of the other variables that punctuate the processional of the evolutionary spheres. There are differences too numerous to narrate even between the revealed orders of living creatures as between planets of the same group, but this presentation makes clear the essential differences in relation to the ascension career. And the ascension career is the most important factor in any consideration of the mortals of time and space.

(447.4) 40:5.19 As to the chances of mortal survival, let it be made forever clear: All souls of every possible phase of mortal existence will survive provided they manifest willingness to co-operate with their indwelling Adjusters and exhibit a desire to find God and to attain divine perfection, even though these desires be but the first faint flickers of the primitive comprehension of that “true light which lights every man who comes into the world.”
[link to www.urantia.org]

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Why even contemplate the "alien" scenario when currently, mankind is enslaved to elites who wear the same HUMAN SUITS that we do???

suicideabombsuicideabombsuicideabomb

Oh well...I'm going back to what I was doing.

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watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Its a very sophisticated system very carefully crafted and




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Are we slaves that were created by 'lower gods' or Aliens from a different dimension? Are we slaves that were created to work for them? sort of like honey bees?
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I say yes. I believe we were genetically manipulated by an advanced technology for the purposes of creating a slave race.

This belief causes me a bit of concern vis-a-vis the "alien intervention". If we were created to be slaves, when the aliens return they are NOT going to arrest TPTB. They are going to throw them a fucking parade for a job well done.
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nope.

6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 44:6