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HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... PRIVATE payrolls jump by 172K!!! BUT UNEMPLOYMENT RISES TO 8.3%!!!

 
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I don't mind. Employment is a shitty way to earn a living anyway. I have so many better things to do with my precious time.
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So, you're either rich, a hunter-gatherer, or a liar.
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Such a small imagination you have. Do you really believe that employment is the only way to make money?
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HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... [link to read.bi]
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That's not a jump - that is standing on your tippy toes.
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I don't mind. Employment is a shitty way to earn a living anyway. I have so many better things to do with my precious time.
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So, you're either rich, a hunter-gatherer, or a liar.
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Such a small imagination you have. Do you really believe that employment is the only way to make money?
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Actually, no. Selling drugs is one way to make money without employment. So is making doll houses and selling them on Etsy.

I used to be a heavy construction tradesman. I'm self-employed and work from home these days. I guess that means I'm doing it wrong since I'm still employed.
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Next month will be a revised figure on what really happened in job creation in July...
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Another excellent source of truth...not propaganda

[link to www.jsmineset.com]
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Notice the spreads between the U6 Rate and the published rate continues to expand dramatically...

Complete bullshit!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Since you're looking at the numbers, why not post them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10284198


Here ya go...

[link to www.shadowstats.com]
 Quoting: Saddletramp




This is what scary looks like:
[link to research.stlouisfed.org]

Less than 45% of the population is actually working. That is the lowest in 30 years.

In 1980 women's employment rate was 75% of men's. Today the female employment rate is 89% of the male employment rate so there should be 7% more people working (more or less).

In 1950 less than 45% of working age women worked.

Just computed the current number:
139296000 Current Employment
311591917 Current Population
44.7% employment.

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Re: HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... PRIVATE payrolls jump by 172K!!! BUT UNEMPLOYMENT RISES TO 8.3%!!!
I don't mind. Employment is a shitty way to earn a living anyway. I have so many better things to do with my precious time.
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So, you're either rich, a hunter-gatherer, or a liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10284198


Such a small imagination you have. Do you really believe that employment is the only way to make money?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18629109


Actually, no. Selling drugs is one way to make money without employment. So is making doll houses and selling them on Etsy.

I used to be a heavy construction tradesman. I'm self-employed and work from home these days. I guess that means I'm doing it wrong since I'm still employed.
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Must not be making much as an entrepreneur if you can't even cough up 10 bucks a month for a REAL GLP account...
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Re: HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... PRIVATE payrolls jump by 172K!!! BUT UNEMPLOYMENT RISES TO 8.3%!!!
CORRECTION!!! Obama says it's not 8.3%...it's 8.254%!!!

Wheew, thank God, I thought we were in trouble there for a minute...

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CORRECTION!!! Obama says it's not %8.3...it's %8.254!!!

Wheew, thank God, I thought we were in trouble there for a minute...

cry
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Oh, Obama does deserve credit though:

[link to www.aei-ideas.org]

The Stimulus plan is directly responsible for the current US vibrant economy.

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CORRECTION!!! Obama says it's not %8.3...it's %8.254!!!

Wheew, thank God, I thought we were in trouble there for a minute...

cry
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Oh, Obama does deserve credit though:

[link to www.aei-ideas.org]

The Stimulus plan is directly responsible for the current US vibrant economy.
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lmao
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Unemployment went up to 8.3%...
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so that's the official Unemployment what is it really? those numbers dont include illegal aliens or people that are not identifying themselves as looking for work because of gang affiliations or just tired of working for the man and not getting ahead in life.
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Re: HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... PRIVATE payrolls jump by 172K!!! BUT UNEMPLOYMENT RISES TO 8.3%!!!
Notice the spreads between the U6 Rate and the published rate continues to expand dramatically...

Complete bullshit!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Since you're looking at the numbers, why not post them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10284198


Here ya go...

[link to www.shadowstats.com]
 Quoting: Saddletramp




This is what scary looks like:
[link to research.stlouisfed.org]

Less than 45% of the population is actually working. That is the lowest in 30 years.

In 1980 women's employment rate was 75% of men's. Today the female employment rate is 89% of the male employment rate so there should be 7% more people working (more or less).

In 1950 less than 45% of working age women worked.

Just computed the current number:
139296000 Current Employment
311591917 Current Population
44.7% employment.
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how much of that population are children, disabled or seniors citizens?
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Re: HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... PRIVATE payrolls jump by 172K!!! BUT UNEMPLOYMENT RISES TO 8.3%!!!
It is a Depression and they totally lie about the unemployment rate...8.3% is a joke...try around 40% when you add in all the homeless and people that lost unemployment and still have no jobs...

This is the craziest recession we have ever seen

[link to www.dailyjobcuts.com]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7768903


It's a DEPRESSION.

We're just not allowed to call it that.

But I don't think we're allowed to call it a recession either.
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Now we are getting , new lower paying jobs are norm.
Replacing high paying jobs with low ones are a no win situation.

They can work, but prices have to come way way down.
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Re: HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... PRIVATE payrolls jump by 172K!!! BUT UNEMPLOYMENT RISES TO 8.3%!!!
Notice the spreads between the U6 Rate and the published rate continues to expand dramatically...

Complete bullshit!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Since you're looking at the numbers, why not post them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10284198


Here ya go...

[link to www.shadowstats.com]
 Quoting: Saddletramp



Great break down thanks!
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Re: HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... PRIVATE payrolls jump by 172K!!! BUT UNEMPLOYMENT RISES TO 8.3%!!!
Notice the spreads between the U6 Rate and the published rate continues to expand dramatically...

Complete bullshit!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Since you're looking at the numbers, why not post them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10284198


Here ya go...

[link to www.shadowstats.com]
 Quoting: Saddletramp




And YES, they are getting father and farther apart.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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I got a huge raise.
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@Luisport.... did ya see @ Zerohedge where the banks are demanding access to their reserves? LMAO.... so the Fed is now repoing them their supposedly own reserves as there is no free QE coming.... yep, its a liquidity\cash issue or the shot thats gonna be heard around the werld....
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HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... [link to read.bi]
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This looks like a program.. any real people here?
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@Luisport.... did ya see @ Zerohedge where the banks are demanding access to their reserves? LMAO.... so the Fed is now repoing them their supposedly own reserves as there is no free QE coming.... yep, its a liquidity\cash issue or the shot thats gonna be heard around the werld....
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Yes this is a huge news with many corners difficult to see them all...
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Enjoy your bullshit rally, crooks.
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Re: HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... PRIVATE payrolls jump by 172K!!! BUT UNEMPLOYMENT RISES TO 8.3%!!!
So ex-employees collecting FUTA & SUTA is 8.3% of work force, while U-6 is reported 15% .... interestingly during 1930's depression era unemployment was reportedly 25% at the apex... there was no fed or state unemployment benefits no SSI disability or retirement benefits .IOW the unemployment rate included everyone not working.... regardless of age or physical condition.
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So, you're either rich, a hunter-gatherer, or a liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10284198


Such a small imagination you have. Do you really believe that employment is the only way to make money?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18629109


Actually, no. Selling drugs is one way to make money without employment. So is making doll houses and selling them on Etsy.

I used to be a heavy construction tradesman. I'm self-employed and work from home these days. I guess that means I'm doing it wrong since I'm still employed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10284198


Must not be making much as an entrepreneur if you can't even cough up 10 bucks a month for a REAL GLP account...
 Quoting: Mwalk


I don't consider myself an "entrepreneur". A true entrepreneur is someone pursuing a dream and someone who works hard to attain their dream and makes sacrifices in order to pursue success. I am not pursuing my entrepreneurial dreams and the only sacrifices I've made are to do what I'm doing now is that I left 25 years of hard work and a daily 2-3 hours of stop-and-go, bumper-to-bumper DFW traffic behind and now I have a comfortable home office and my commute is about 15 feet from my bed and I show up to work in my boxer shorts.

And I have much more money than I had as a journeyman tradesman foreman working on big construction projects in far-flung places.
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Re: HERE COMES THE JULY JOBS REPORT... PRIVATE payrolls jump by 172K!!! BUT UNEMPLOYMENT RISES TO 8.3%!!!
I just heard the U6 report that includes those who have just given up and are no longer receiving unemployment would place the true rate at 15%.

This is no where near where we need it to be to be in any kind of recovery.

Even the 8.3% that they will admit to is an INCREASE in the number of unemployed.
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Well you heard wrong as none of the various measurements include UI benefits. U6 can be thought of as the Universe of unemployment with the other metrics being subsets---it includes part-time workers who wish to work full-time and marginally attached workers. While the U6 rate did increase 0.1% from last month to 15.%, that increase is not statistically significant.

The increase to 8.3% is not a big deal due to the fact that it lies in the expected interval.
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This is the craziest recession we have ever seen

[link to www.dailyjobcuts.com]

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It's a DEPRESSION.

We're just not allowed to call it that.

But I don't think we're allowed to call it a recession either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13890898


No we are not in either of those situations. No one is saying that you cannot refer to our current economic condition with those terms, but by using those terms you show just how ignorant you are to economic matters.
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Those collecting unemployment checks might be at 8.3%, but the real unemployment rate is well into double digits. The American news media has about as much credibility as the Soviet era Pravda and Tass news agencies.
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Unemployment Insurance status, or as you referred to as "collecting unemployment checks," has no effect on the reported unemployment rate. Relying on UI would not allow the BLS to see the larger picture as a larger number of individuals would be excluded from the sample---as it is the current sample is 60k which is much greater than is required by the CLT.
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Looks like Obama will win election for sure
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You are joking, right? No, they don't win with an 8.3% unemployed. 155,000 dropped off the count as they ran out of unemployemnt benefits. So basically, it's a wash.
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UI has no impact on the unemployment rate by any metric. [link to www.bls.gov]





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