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CIA's Use of Scopolamine

 
Anonymous Coward
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This Scopolamine is some pretty wicked stuff.


NASA used it on the astronauts for "motion sickness"...

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The premier sin one can commit is to violate another person's free will. That is the number 1 thing you do not do. Those fuckers will pay for what they do, they are twisted beyond redemption.
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Righhhht.... Oh yeah they'll pay for this! (not)
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In this life or the next. You can't rack up karma like that and get off scott free.
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if one is experienced in mediation and strong psychedelics could they be aware of their behavior?


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Not with Scopolamine. It blocks all memories from even being made. Even under hypnosis, the memories are not retrievable because they were never made and stored in the brain.

Scopolamine is truly EVIL shit...............

dick
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Chris,

You have hit the nail on the head. I believe this is exactly how it was. And when Reagan started to get a little bit out of control, GHWB sent another scope'd out "lone nut" to teach Reagan a lesson.

machobird

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No one see's the relevance of this? CIA's past use of this drug to do there bidding and frame people? Colorado?
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I think that Ronald Reagan was under thought control for his entire presidency. He was a born actor after all, and his VP was GHWB, who used to be the director of the CIA.

Everyone who knows anything knows that powerful families like the Bush's and people behind the Federal Reserve are the people in control of the CIA. They are a rogue agency. They dont work for the US president, they work for the NWO.

Anyway, I think that the VP GHW Bush was really calling the shots for Reagan for 8 years, and then as president himself for 4 more years.

That was 12 uninterupted years that The NWO got to secretly solidify their power behind the scenes by being in control of the US government. Then GWB came in and finished up everything that Daddy didnt have time to complete, and then set the stage for Obama to come in and start his agenda of setting up the government to start zeroing in on the libertarians and freedom fighters who are going to give them problems when the curtains are unveiled, and the NWO comes out of hiding and claims their power.
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If I was James E. Holmes I would demand a drug test for this. The way he looked in the court room on TV is exactly how people are described after the drug has lost its affect. Its known in Columbia as a Scopolamine hang over.
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if one is experienced in mediation and strong psychedelics could they be aware of their behavior?


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Not with Scopolamine. It blocks all memories from even being made. Even under hypnosis, the memories are not retrievable because they were never made and stored in the brain.

Scopolamine is truly EVIL shit...............

dick
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Good never have I wanted to gain what wasn't in my spectrum of comprehention. Evil is evolving by using non love.
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Id like to add that never have I believed in it. It would ne NICE to have a job. And someTHING unexplainable to go by everytime I CARE enough to care.

It would be niCE not to have to worry about being wrong all the time.

It would be nicE for the world to evolve along with everything to accomidate goodness and then to fall badness.
God Leo
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I have two young daughters and buradanga scares the hell out of me. You can just blow it into someone's face, and that's enough. 50% of the emergency room admissions here in Colombia is from this drug.
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No one see's the relevance of this? CIA's past use of this drug to do there bidding and frame people? Colorado?
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what does the government get by killing innocent people?

the dude was crazy, his own mother said so. one person could do this, it wouldnt be that hard. especially with that much fire power and sitting ducks. ppl thought there was two shooters because they were disoriented from the gas and the amount of shooting and carnage.
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Damn. His mother did NOT say he was crazy. She was misquoted. Get it right will you?
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This Scopolamine is some pretty wicked stuff.


NASA used it on the astronauts for "motion sickness"...

 Quoting: that other guy 20902251


The premier sin one can commit is to violate another person's free will. That is the number 1 thing you do not do. Those fuckers will pay for what they do, they are twisted beyond redemption.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15959056


When people find out just how many of us are violating other people's free will and how they're doing that, there's going to be some shit go down.

WE SHALL OVERCOME
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No one see's the relevance of this? CIA's past use of this drug to do there bidding and frame people? Colorado?
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what does the government get by killing innocent people?

the dude was crazy, his own mother said so. one person could do this, it wouldnt be that hard. especially with that much fire power and sitting ducks. ppl thought there was two shooters because they were disoriented from the gas and the amount of shooting and carnage.
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what they get is a body count, without which you don't get any traction.
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it's used frequently in bars in Colombia, in the cities. There are stories of people showing up at their own house, helping thieves carry out all of their possessions, furniture, everything and load it onto a truck. They wake up the next morning with nothing and the doorman says they told them the night before that everything was fine.
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yeah, i watched vid too.
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So sad...How people can take advantage of others.

The fact that humans do this should be enough to realize that the humans running the governemnets are taking advantage too. Just on a larger scale, and more discretely.


I have two young daughters and buradanga scares the hell out of me. You can just blow it into someone's face, and that's enough. 50% of the emergency room admissions here in Colombia is from this drug.
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Yup, it's well known. Hookers (mostly in other countries) notoriously administer it, sometimes on condoms, sometimes in smoke form, to clients and basically make them empty their bank accounts.
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So sad...How people can take advantage of others.

The fact that humans do this should be enough to realize that the humans running the governemnets are taking advantage too. Just on a larger scale, and more discretely.


I have two young daughters and buradanga scares the hell out of me. You can just blow it into someone's face, and that's enough. 50% of the emergency room admissions here in Colombia is from this drug.
 Quoting: Brubaker

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discreetly, different from discretely
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"Rats were injected s.c. with vehicle or drug 1 h before
sacrifice."
So they are even training the kids at uni in the sacrifice business!
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if one is experienced in mediation and strong psychedelics could they be aware of their behavior?

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With way too much exposure to the drug, yes. A tolerance can be built for anything. But the awareness is only temporary and comes in little short gulps, like coming up for air and then going right back down into the pool. It is unlikely that awareness can be maintained consistently enough to take back proper control.
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No one see's the relevance of this? CIA's past use of this drug to do there bidding and frame people? Colorado?
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Odd there are more potent anticholinergics.
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What would those be?
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Atropine, ipatropium (hard to get in large doses), sublingual hyoscyamine its scopolamines precursor and even a large dose of amanitia muscaria, if you can find.
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You can buy amanita and nightshade (atropine) on the web. Not sure about the others...
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CIA IS MORE FLEASED THAT THE SHEEP THAT LEAD YA.


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IS THERE AN ORDER?

I THINK ITS JUST QUANTITY THAT MATERS. LOL.

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As someone very familiar with Datura root in the 70s.... I can say, that the OP is just repeating bullshit.

Period.

Yes, the Thugees (Kali worshipers) used it to drug victims.

To put them out of it, not make them obedient slaves.

Psychonautical doses are a, "death trip."

Very hard on the heart which is why some western witches' brews included foxglove (digitalis) to counter some of that to sidestep what sometimes could be permanent heart damage.

The, "going down, out, under," and then the, "awakening," into the New... or very, different world," a death trip of a sort.

And sometimes, a real death occurs at that stage.

A 3 day experience that tests the mettle of any, "shaman, curandero, brujo," pretty much separating the men from the boys in psychonautical terms.

Not advised.

The idea of it being a voodoo drug is bullshit as well.

The zombie drug relies on a puffer fish for the bulk of its efficacy.
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want to trip on Scopolamine like plant? just pick some datura seeds, eat them. Scopolamine. All Datura plants contain tropane alkaloids such as scopolamine

datura has been used for thousands of years in voodoo practice. It's common in the pacific northwest and southern states, and fully legal

but be careful with this stuff, or you might wind up in jail, the nuthouse or dead.
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but be careful with this stuff, or you might wind up in jail, the nuthouse or dead.
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Someone introduced a witch girlfriend to datura root.
She wandered off.
The, "little people," told him to find her in jail.
She was there.
Out of it.
The police had found her wandering and took her in for her own good, protection.

He could function, she couldn't.

He was... experienced.

BTW, datura is not all through the southernmost states... as in southeast.

Southwest, desert, yes.
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another aside....

Types of Shamans in Peru have used a combination of Brugmansia and San Pedro cactus for..... since when.

Brugmansia, (sometimes called tree datura), for scopolomine, San Pedro (as in Saint Peter) for mescaline.

So, a combo of scoplomine and mescaline in a too tasty at all brews.
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a not to tasty at all brew.

And not used to control anybody else.

Used by selves for psychonautical travel, experience, purposes.
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As far as calling scopolomine, "the voodoo drug," that is not accurate... but here semantics come into play.

Voudan and Santeria practiioners may sometimes use solanacious alkaloids, as some do across times and ages, in contacting, invoking, evoking.... "things."

Semantically speaking, when most reference, THE voodoo drug, they are referencing that which knocks out/modifies some centers of the brain for the sake of punishment and sometimes subsequent control.

Which uses the venom of a puffer fish as a main neuro toxin to effect changes.
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If I was James E. Holmes I would demand a drug test for this. The way he looked in the court room on TV is exactly how people are described after the drug has lost its affect. Its known in Columbia as a Scopolamine hang over.
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Colombia.
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I believe there is a very high chance the Denver shooter was given Scopolamine. Apologies if this has already been posted, but here is a very interesting link. The 30 documentary on the drug (at the bottom of the page) is mind blowing:

[link to deadlinelive.info]

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