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Is Lucifer Jesus? Shocking Truth Revealed!

 
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Is Lucifer Jesus? Shocking Truth Revealed!
The confusion between Lucifer and this invented Devil named Satan is one of the oldest religious conspiracies that is still in effect to this very day.

Lucifer 1

This is no surprise being that most all Christians are simply not educated on the bible, its history or the true meanings behind some of the biblical passages and the words that are contained in this book. My hopes are to educate you by telling you the truth in the most simple manner possible. In doing so, I ask that you please keep an open mind and that you do not shoot the witness.

churchlady The facts are Lucifer is mentioned only once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12.

Not any other time is Lucifer mentioned and at no time as it been mentioned with Satan or the Devil. Hence, any assumptions you may have that Lucifer is Satan or the Devil is false and based on heresy. What this means is that you need to get educated by reading about this yourself and I will provide as much as I can here below. If you think I AM lying or trying to mislead you, then the burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong by not stating your alleged facts, but providing evidence of your proof which I bet that you simply will never ever find in a million year.

This case solved. Lucifer is NOT Satan or the Devil.

Below, I will provide a multitude of expert authors, books and links for you to investigate this yourself if you still do not “believe” what I know as fact. Ignorance is bliss and knowledge is power.

Shakespeare and the Bible: to which is added prayers on the stage, … – Page 136

Lucifer is mentioned but once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12. Shakespeare uses it six times. ” Falls like Lucifer.” Henry VIII., Act iii. Sc. 2. ” Lucifer and Beelzebub himself.” Henry V.

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The Cyclopædia of Biblical Literature: Volume 2 – Page 275


books.google.comJohn Kitto – 1851 – Free Google eBook – Read
6 ‘Zcurtiaos), a word that occurs once in the English Version in the linen — ‘ How art thou fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning ! … This, the popular sense, is conveyed in the note in Barker’s Bible : ‘ Thou that thoughtest thyselfe most glorious, and as it were placed m … According to ecclesiastical lia- dition, the author of the Gospel is the same Luke who is mentioned in Paul’s Epistles (Pbilem.

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The Genesis of the Bible – Page 5

But Lucifer is actually, the name of the Bright and Morning Star, and not the father of evil. … King James translated Bible of 1611 A. D. In the Canaanites Amharic Literature of ancient Egypt, North Afrikan Mythology, the Bright and Morning Star, …

A dictionary of the Holy Bible, for the use of schools and young … – Page 194

This is the only place where the word Lucifer occurs in the English Bible, and it is here evidently applied to the king of Babylon. … are without foundation, and arose in part, perhaps, from confounding him with the Lucius mentioned in Acts 13:1.

Satan and His Kingdom: What the Bible Says and How It Matters to You – Page 20

I (along with most interpreters) think that this passage is not about Satan. For one thing, although Lucifer is a traditional name for Satan, people base that tradition solely on this passage. Nowhere else does the Bible call Satan Lucifer.

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Nobody cares.

NOBODY FUCKING CARES.
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Nobody cares.

NOBODY FUCKING CARES.
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What does Every-No-Body care about then?
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Jesus skates
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Christ is God and made lucifer just like he made all souls but lucifer turned on him and he wants to own you in hell just to tick off Christ but all you have to is know that Christ is God and is not coming back to get in to heaven and it's also best to know that his parents Our Lady and the Holy Ghost is God too oh yeah and satan is just an evil spirit who is basically lucifer's bitch cause when they were alive they sold themselves to him for power and money and all that stuff and they appear in a burning bush making you think they are God and not Christ and if you do think the lord/burning bush is God then you will become their bitch and jesus is just a hologram it's nothing
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Christ is God and made lucifer just like he made all souls but lucifer turned on him and he wants to own you in hell just to tick off Christ but all you have to is know that Christ is God and is not coming back to get in to heaven and it's also best to know that his parents Our Lady and the Holy Ghost is God too oh yeah and satan is just an evil spirit who is basically lucifer's bitch cause when they were alive they sold themselves to him for power and money and all that stuff and they appear in a burning bush making you think they are God and not Christ and if you do think the lord/burning bush is God then you will become their bitch and jesus is just a hologram it's nothing
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Then how come Lucifer is called the morning star in the Old Testament and Jesus is called the morning star in the New Testament?

Please explain that one.
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The point is, is that most people who read the bible, DON'T understand the bible.

Rather than do their own research, they'll take their priest/pastor's word for it instead.
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Nobody cares.

NOBODY FUCKING CARES.
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an old masonic lie. you guys are not using your head if you fall for this one... i don't care how esotoric or hidden the teachings are... its wrong. wake up.
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Christ is God and made lucifer just like he made all souls but lucifer turned on him and he wants to own you in hell just to tick off Christ but all you have to is know that Christ is God and is not coming back to get in to heaven and it's also best to know that his parents Our Lady and the Holy Ghost is God too oh yeah and satan is just an evil spirit who is basically lucifer's bitch cause when they were alive they sold themselves to him for power and money and all that stuff and they appear in a burning bush making you think they are God and not Christ and if you do think the lord/burning bush is God then you will become their bitch and jesus is just a hologram it's nothing
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Then how come Lucifer is called the morning star in the Old Testament and Jesus is called the morning star in the New Testament?

Please explain that one.
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texts can't be altered over time? think about it.
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Heylel, I was wanting a linguistic Hebrew study on Heylel Ben Shachar.... (frown)

Its important too, that we go back to the Hebrew..

Hebrew was spelled right to left, So its Heh Yod Lamed Lamed. No vowels.

First name meanings are WINDOW, HAND, WHIP WHIP, Correspondences Aries, Virgo Libra Libra. or Emperor, Hermit, Justice, Justice. Numbers of the correspondences are 4 9 11 11.
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Heylel is the proper name compared to the Latin Americanized Lucifer Lucim Ferre. Heh Lay el (way to pronounce) The Hebrew is below, right to left script. The full name of Heylel Ben Shachar , Ben means Son, In Israel jesus would have been called Yeshu'a (Joshua). Yeshua, Son of Yosef

Jesus was a Joshua in reality.

Back to Lucy, Shachar means Dawn, So he is called Son of the Dawn..
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Heylel, I was wanting a linguistic Hebrew study on Heylel Ben Shachar.... (frown)

Its important too, that we go back to the Hebrew..

Hebrew was spelled right to left, So its Heh Yod Lamed Lamed. No vowels.

First name meanings are WINDOW, HAND, WHIP WHIP, Correspondences Aries, Virgo Libra Libra. or Emperor, Hermit, Justice, Justice. Numbers of the correspondences are 4 9 11 11.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Bro, please trust in me that an article on Heylel will be coming soon. hf

I just wanted to make a simple Lucifer is not the Devil article in the most simple way possible in response to Uncle Mikey's scaredy Christian cat stance on Lucifer so I can just shut him up on this Luciferians are the Devil etc crap ;)

Yesterday, I was all caught up in the Trinity and Fleur De Lis research which was fascinating.

saint peter

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Nobody cares.

NOBODY FUCKING CARES.
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What does Every-No-Body care about then?
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i`m gonna av a look and see what i can do to this dilemma
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Christ is God and made lucifer just like he made all souls but lucifer turned on him and he wants to own you in hell just to tick off Christ but all you have to is know that Christ is God and is not coming back to get in to heaven and it's also best to know that his parents Our Lady and the Holy Ghost is God too oh yeah and satan is just an evil spirit who is basically lucifer's bitch cause when they were alive they sold themselves to him for power and money and all that stuff and they appear in a burning bush making you think they are God and not Christ and if you do think the lord/burning bush is God then you will become their bitch and jesus is just a hologram it's nothing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1600864


Then how come Lucifer is called the morning star in the Old Testament and Jesus is called the morning star in the New Testament?

Please explain that one.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


texts can't be altered over time? think about it.
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In theory, yes they can, but in truth, no they cannot. All one has to do is study history to see where the altered false text to uncover the truth.
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Heylel is the proper name compared to the Latin Americanized Lucifer Lucim Ferre. Heh Lay el (way to pronounce) The Hebrew is below, right to left script. The full name of Heylel Ben Shachar , Ben means Son, In Israel jesus would have been called Yeshu'a (Joshua). Yeshua, Son of Yosef

Jesus was a Joshua in reality.

Back to Lucy, Shachar means Dawn, So he is called Son of the Dawn..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


OK, thanks so much for the leads for my research.
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Nobody cares.

NOBODY FUCKING CARES.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21204318


an old masonic lie. you guys are not using your head if you fall for this one... i don't care how esotoric or hidden the teachings are... its wrong. wake up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1256231


Do you mean that prophecy, the Bible and these sort of facts are VERY important and the only people who do no care have been mislead to think none of this matters?
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The point is, is that most people who read the bible, DON'T understand the bible.

Rather than do their own research, they'll take their priest/pastor's word for it instead.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


Correct and this can be said about just anyone or profession such as teachers, doctors and lawyers who do what their books or professors tell them is true and what is not. All one has to do is look at real estate and mortgages to know that most people ignorantly trust other people to tell them the truth which couldn't be farther from the truth.
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lucifer is prometheus or azazel
one of mankinds ancient watcher

"Azazel's fate is foretold near the end of 1 Enoch 2:8, where God says, “On the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. […] The whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin."

also known as
satan or the betrayer
"Here there is the idea that God's heritage (the created world) is largely under the dominion of evil – i.e., it is "shared with Azazel" (Abr. 20:5), again identifying him with Satan, who was called "the prince of this world" by Jesus. (John 12:31 niv)"
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

obviously pissed off tptb of his time by interfering with the locals
why was humanity being watched...

obigbro ?
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lucifer is prometheus or azazel
one of mankinds ancient watcher

"Azazel's fate is foretold near the end of 1 Enoch 2:8, where God says, “On the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. […] The whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin."

also known as
satan or the betrayer
"Here there is the idea that God's heritage (the created world) is largely under the dominion of evil – i.e., it is "shared with Azazel" (Abr. 20:5), again identifying him with Satan, who was called "the prince of this world" by Jesus. (John 12:31 niv)"
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

obviously pissed off tptb of his time by interfering with the locals
why was humanity being watched...

obigbro ?
 Quoting: Horus 7669788


Thanks for the comment, but Lucifer is not also known as Satan. This is false and was only done by profane authors or professional liars.
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lucifer is prometheus or azazel
one of mankinds ancient watcher

"Azazel's fate is foretold near the end of 1 Enoch 2:8, where God says, “On the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. […] The whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin."

also known as
satan or the betrayer
"Here there is the idea that God's heritage (the created world) is largely under the dominion of evil – i.e., it is "shared with Azazel" (Abr. 20:5), again identifying him with Satan, who was called "the prince of this world" by Jesus. (John 12:31 niv)"
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

obviously pissed off tptb of his time by interfering with the locals
why was humanity being watched...

obigbro ?
 Quoting: Horus 7669788


correct, lucifer is azazel... a piece of slime who, if he has not already been, will be disposed of shortly. any attempts to glorify or worship him are simply misguided... by the father of all lies... bunch of fools.
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Nobody cares.

NOBODY FUCKING CARES.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21204318


an old masonic lie. you guys are not using your head if you fall for this one... i don't care how esotoric or hidden the teachings are... its wrong. wake up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1256231


Do you mean that prophecy, the Bible and these sort of facts are VERY important and the only people who do no care have been mislead to think none of this matters?
 Quoting: HEYLEL


oh it matters... but you simply have fallen for another layer of lies... there are several. and its funny, everyone thinks their layer is the "truth" and those below them are the deluded ones...
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Heylel, I was wanting a linguistic Hebrew study on Heylel Ben Shachar.... (frown)

Its important too, that we go back to the Hebrew..

Hebrew was spelled right to left, So its Heh Yod Lamed Lamed. No vowels.

First name meanings are WINDOW, HAND, WHIP WHIP, Correspondences Aries, Virgo Libra Libra. or Emperor, Hermit, Justice, Justice. Numbers of the correspondences are 4 9 11 11.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Bro, please trust in me that an article on Heylel will be coming soon. hf

I just wanted to make a simple Lucifer is not the Devil article in the most simple way possible in response to Uncle Mikey's scaredy Christian cat stance on Lucifer so I can just shut him up on this Luciferians are the Devil etc crap ;)

Yesterday, I was all caught up in the Trinity and Fleur De Lis research which was fascinating.

:saint peter:
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why hebrew? the oldest parts of the bible are not hebrew at all... hebrew didn't even exist when those stories started. if you start with hebrew, you are not getting the real story.
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The confusion between Lucifer and this invented Devil named Satan is one of the oldest religious conspiracies that is still in effect to this very day.

Lucifer 1

This is no surprise being that most all Christians are simply not educated on the bible, its history or the true meanings behind some of the biblical passages and the words that are contained in this book. My hopes are to educate you by telling you the truth in the most simple manner possible. In doing so, I ask that you please keep an open mind and that you do not shoot the witness.

churchlady The facts are Lucifer is mentioned only once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12.

Not any other time is Lucifer mentioned and at no time as it been mentioned with Satan or the Devil. Hence, any assumptions you may have that Lucifer is Satan or the Devil is false and based on heresy. What this means is that you need to get educated by reading about this yourself and I will provide as much as I can here below. If you think I AM lying or trying to mislead you, then the burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong by not stating your alleged facts, but providing evidence of your proof which I bet that you simply will never ever find in a million year.

This case solved. Lucifer is NOT Satan or the Devil.

Below, I will provide a multitude of expert authors, books and links for you to investigate this yourself if you still do not “believe” what I know as fact. Ignorance is bliss and knowledge is power.

Shakespeare and the Bible: to which is added prayers on the stage, … – Page 136

Lucifer is mentioned but once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12. Shakespeare uses it six times. ” Falls like Lucifer.” Henry VIII., Act iii. Sc. 2. ” Lucifer and Beelzebub himself.” Henry V.

More edition
The Cyclopædia of Biblical Literature: Volume 2 – Page 275


books.google.comJohn Kitto – 1851 – Free Google eBook – Read
6 ‘Zcurtiaos), a word that occurs once in the English Version in the linen — ‘ How art thou fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning ! … This, the popular sense, is conveyed in the note in Barker’s Bible : ‘ Thou that thoughtest thyselfe most glorious, and as it were placed m … According to ecclesiastical lia- dition, the author of the Gospel is the same Luke who is mentioned in Paul’s Epistles (Pbilem.

More editions
The Genesis of the Bible – Page 5

But Lucifer is actually, the name of the Bright and Morning Star, and not the father of evil. … King James translated Bible of 1611 A. D. In the Canaanites Amharic Literature of ancient Egypt, North Afrikan Mythology, the Bright and Morning Star, …

A dictionary of the Holy Bible, for the use of schools and young … – Page 194

This is the only place where the word Lucifer occurs in the English Bible, and it is here evidently applied to the king of Babylon. … are without foundation, and arose in part, perhaps, from confounding him with the Lucius mentioned in Acts 13:1.

Satan and His Kingdom: What the Bible Says and How It Matters to You – Page 20

I (along with most interpreters) think that this passage is not about Satan. For one thing, although Lucifer is a traditional name for Satan, people base that tradition solely on this passage. Nowhere else does the Bible call Satan Lucifer.

ORIGINAL ARTICLE: [link to knightstemplar.tv]
 Quoting: HEYLEL


KJV Lucifer. Hebrew is heylel {hay-lale'}
The El on the end telss us he is a God. He is the son of shachar {shakh'-ar}
Shachar is the star that rises early shachar also translates black. Heyled's father is Shachar.

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We all know that Eve and Adam ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil because of Lucifer.


But people often forget that Jesus came to give us the fruit from the tree of life.



Jesus Said,

"If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you.

For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."


"Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."
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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


 Quoting: HEYLEL





beacht9 So whats this then, a liars convention.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Nobody cares.

NOBODY FUCKING CARES.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21204318


an old masonic lie. you guys are not using your head if you fall for this one... i don't care how esotoric or hidden the teachings are... its wrong. wake up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1256231


Do you mean that prophecy, the Bible and these sort of facts are VERY important and the only people who do no care have been mislead to think none of this matters?
 Quoting: HEYLEL


oh it matters... but you simply have fallen for another layer of lies... there are several. and its funny, everyone thinks their layer is the "truth" and those below them are the deluded ones...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1256231


word
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Heylel, I was wanting a linguistic Hebrew study on Heylel Ben Shachar.... (frown)

Its important too, that we go back to the Hebrew..

Hebrew was spelled right to left, So its Heh Yod Lamed Lamed. No vowels.

First name meanings are WINDOW, HAND, WHIP WHIP, Correspondences Aries, Virgo Libra Libra. or Emperor, Hermit, Justice, Justice. Numbers of the correspondences are 4 9 11 11.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Bro, please trust in me that an article on Heylel will be coming soon. hf

I just wanted to make a simple Lucifer is not the Devil article in the most simple way possible in response to Uncle Mikey's scaredy Christian cat stance on Lucifer so I can just shut him up on this Luciferians are the Devil etc crap ;)

Yesterday, I was all caught up in the Trinity and Fleur De Lis research which was fascinating.

saint peter
 Quoting: HEYLEL


why hebrew? the oldest parts of the bible are not hebrew at all... hebrew didn't even exist when those stories started. if you start with hebrew, you are not getting the real story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1256231


This is in regards to the Old and New Testaments. What language or Gospels are you referring too?
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Re: Is Lucifer Jesus? Shocking Truth Revealed!
We all know that Eve and Adam ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil because of Lucifer.


But people often forget that Jesus came to give us the fruit from the tree of life.



Jesus Said,

"If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you.

For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."


"Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


No we all don't. Who this is?
{naw-khawsh'} which translates "beast" of the field not the same as the earlier beast of the earth was made.
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The confusion between Lucifer and this invented Devil named Satan is one of the oldest religious conspiracies that is still in effect to this very day.

:Lucifer 1:

This is no surprise being that most all Christians are simply not educated on the bible, its history or the true meanings behind some of the biblical passages and the words that are contained in this book. My hopes are to educate you by telling you the truth in the most simple manner possible. In doing so, I ask that you please keep an open mind and that you do not shoot the witness.

churchlady The facts are Lucifer is mentioned only once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12.

Not any other time is Lucifer mentioned and at no time as it been mentioned with Satan or the Devil. Hence, any assumptions you may have that Lucifer is Satan or the Devil is false and based on heresy. What this means is that you need to get educated by reading about this yourself and I will provide as much as I can here below. If you think I AM lying or trying to mislead you, then the burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong by not stating your alleged facts, but providing evidence of your proof which I bet that you simply will never ever find in a million year.

This case solved. Lucifer is NOT Satan or the Devil.

Below, I will provide a multitude of expert authors, books and links for you to investigate this yourself if you still do not “believe” what I know as fact. Ignorance is bliss and knowledge is power.

Shakespeare and the Bible: to which is added prayers on the stage, … – Page 136

Lucifer is mentioned but once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12. Shakespeare uses it six times. ” Falls like Lucifer.” Henry VIII., Act iii. Sc. 2. ” Lucifer and Beelzebub himself.” Henry V.

More edition
The Cyclopædia of Biblical Literature: Volume 2 – Page 275


books.google.comJohn Kitto – 1851 – Free Google eBook – Read
6 ‘Zcurtiaos), a word that occurs once in the English Version in the linen — ‘ How art thou fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning ! … This, the popular sense, is conveyed in the note in Barker’s Bible : ‘ Thou that thoughtest thyselfe most glorious, and as it were placed m … According to ecclesiastical lia- dition, the author of the Gospel is the same Luke who is mentioned in Paul’s Epistles (Pbilem.

More editions
The Genesis of the Bible – Page 5

But Lucifer is actually, the name of the Bright and Morning Star, and not the father of evil. … King James translated Bible of 1611 A. D. In the Canaanites Amharic Literature of ancient Egypt, North Afrikan Mythology, the Bright and Morning Star, …

A dictionary of the Holy Bible, for the use of schools and young … – Page 194

This is the only place where the word Lucifer occurs in the English Bible, and it is here evidently applied to the king of Babylon. … are without foundation, and arose in part, perhaps, from confounding him with the Lucius mentioned in Acts 13:1.

Satan and His Kingdom: What the Bible Says and How It Matters to You – Page 20

I (along with most interpreters) think that this passage is not about Satan. For one thing, although Lucifer is a traditional name for Satan, people base that tradition solely on this passage. Nowhere else does the Bible call Satan Lucifer.

ORIGINAL ARTICLE: [link to knightstemplar.tv]
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Lucifer is not Jesus.

Lucifer was a man.

Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

that died

19But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

and went to hell.
.........

You claim to be knowledgeable, yet you do the work of the devil.
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The confusion between Lucifer and this invented Devil named Satan is one of the oldest religious conspiracies that is still in effect to this very day.

Lucifer 1

This is no surprise being that most all Christians are simply not educated on the bible, its history or the true meanings behind some of the biblical passages and the words that are contained in this book. My hopes are to educate you by telling you the truth in the most simple manner possible. In doing so, I ask that you please keep an open mind and that you do not shoot the witness.

churchlady The facts are Lucifer is mentioned only once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12.

Not any other time is Lucifer mentioned and at no time as it been mentioned with Satan or the Devil. Hence, any assumptions you may have that Lucifer is Satan or the Devil is false and based on heresy. What this means is that you need to get educated by reading about this yourself and I will provide as much as I can here below. If you think I AM lying or trying to mislead you, then the burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong by not stating your alleged facts, but providing evidence of your proof which I bet that you simply will never ever find in a million year.

This case solved. Lucifer is NOT Satan or the Devil.

Below, I will provide a multitude of expert authors, books and links for you to investigate this yourself if you still do not “believe” what I know as fact. Ignorance is bliss and knowledge is power.

Shakespeare and the Bible: to which is added prayers on the stage, … – Page 136

Lucifer is mentioned but once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12. Shakespeare uses it six times. ” Falls like Lucifer.” Henry VIII., Act iii. Sc. 2. ” Lucifer and Beelzebub himself.” Henry V.

More edition
The Cyclopædia of Biblical Literature: Volume 2 – Page 275


books.google.comJohn Kitto – 1851 – Free Google eBook – Read
6 ‘Zcurtiaos), a word that occurs once in the English Version in the linen — ‘ How art thou fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning ! … This, the popular sense, is conveyed in the note in Barker’s Bible : ‘ Thou that thoughtest thyselfe most glorious, and as it were placed m … According to ecclesiastical lia- dition, the author of the Gospel is the same Luke who is mentioned in Paul’s Epistles (Pbilem.

More editions
The Genesis of the Bible – Page 5

But Lucifer is actually, the name of the Bright and Morning Star, and not the father of evil. … King James translated Bible of 1611 A. D. In the Canaanites Amharic Literature of ancient Egypt, North Afrikan Mythology, the Bright and Morning Star, …

A dictionary of the Holy Bible, for the use of schools and young … – Page 194

This is the only place where the word Lucifer occurs in the English Bible, and it is here evidently applied to the king of Babylon. … are without foundation, and arose in part, perhaps, from confounding him with the Lucius mentioned in Acts 13:1.

Satan and His Kingdom: What the Bible Says and How It Matters to You – Page 20

I (along with most interpreters) think that this passage is not about Satan. For one thing, although Lucifer is a traditional name for Satan, people base that tradition solely on this passage. Nowhere else does the Bible call Satan Lucifer.

ORIGINAL ARTICLE: [link to knightstemplar.tv]
 Quoting: HEYLEL


KJV Lucifer. Hebrew is heylel {hay-lale'}
The El on the end telss us he is a God. He is the son of shachar {shakh'-ar}
Shachar is the star that rises early shachar also translates black. Heyled's father is Shachar.
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We have an educated one here ;) Thanks for your comment of the light smile_kiss
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Nice post.

hf
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-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.