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. User ID: 57187 China 12/27/2005 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i read Bury my heart in about 1976 and was profoundly moved by it, the gross violence and barbarism of the US armed forces , only proves that all modern armed forces are the same when it comes to application. That is why they are armies , they have the express intent, purpose and power to kill other human beings, and of course it attracts bloodlusters too their ranks and rankness. |
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NewSELFInChrist User ID: 57308 United States 12/27/2005 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could say the Same Thing of ALL Races of ManKind. True we all can thank Adam for the Fall relative to this World. That is Why a Redeamer Saviour Was Planed For from The OnStart of this Relm of the Living. If you Want to Return To the Garden of Eden State of Being for the Whole Earth You had Better GET Rid of Your Malice or IT WILL HAUNT YOUR Soul in Darkness. James. For 57301 : Yea and I was Born in the land I Walk in to And I am also 3/16 American Indian And I Offer the same Piece Pipe of Your Ansestors. Not as the Current White Man you have Come to Know. PS: Blond Haired Blue Eyed Being of God's Creation. Bottom Line Take it or Leave it. That's Life. |
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General Genocide User ID: 46032 United States 12/27/2005 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was a big disappointment when the inhabitants of the New World didn't greet us with kisses, flowers, and bountiful offerings when we showed up to steal their land. There was a lot of nastiness on both sides then, but with our numbers and better technology and diseases for which they had no immunity, we could always getter nastier. And when we found out the various tribes didn't get along themselves, our strategy became divide and conquer, and it worked. And we followed the standard practice then as followed now of demonizing the enemy and deifying ourselves. It helps with getting the "christian" population to engage energetically in genocidal behavior and so willingly violate the commandments. |
Ol' Griz User ID: 4302 United States 12/27/2005 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The True Peace "The first peace, which is the most important, is that which comes within the souls of people when they realize their relationship, their oneness, with the universe and all its powers, and when they realize that at the center of the universe dwells Wakan-Taka (the Great Spirit), and that this center is really everywhere, it is within each of us. This is the real peace, and the others are but reflections of this. The second peace is that which is made between two individuals, and the third is that which is made between two nations. But above all you should understand that there can never be peace between nations until there is known that true peace, which, as I have often said, is within the souls of men." Black Elk, Lakota Spiritual Leader (1863 - 1950) Peoples of all nations are beginning to awaken to the truth in Black Elk's words. I have watched this place for some time now and many that come here are looking for something solid to hold on to even if it is the catastrophic end of all creation as they know it for it will bring an end to their confusion and suffering in this time. Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee is one of many truths that will lead us to understanding "The Grand Deception" created by the our controllers and cause us to "throw off our bonds',and begin to seek this true peace that is within us all. I respectfully ask that the peoples of all nations that know this peace please pray for those that are awakening/have awakened, and are searching for it. Griz "I, Chief Arvol Looking Horse, greet you on behalf of the Pte Oyate - the Buffalo People, the First People, the Original People. We come from The Heart of Everything That Is - the sacred Paha Sapa - known to most as the Black Hills of South Dakota. We are the watchers. We are witnesses. We see what has gone before. We see what happens now, at this dangerous moment in human history. We see what's going to happen - what will surely happen - unless we come together: we - the Peoples of all Nations - to restore peace and harmony and balance to the Earth, our Mother. This new millennium will usher in an age of harmony - or it will bring the end of life as we know it. Starvation, war, and toxic waste have been the hallmark of the Great Myth of Progress and Development that ruled the last millennium. To us, as caretakers of the Heart of Mother Earth, falls the responsibility of turning back the powers of destruction. We have come to a time and place of great urgency. The fate of future generations rests in our hands." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57346 United Kingdom 12/27/2005 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was listening to Russell Means on 'Mysteries of the Mind' and he said that not one treaty between the US government and the Native Americans has ever been kept. That is a record of shame! |
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Texas Uncensored User ID: 57467 United States 12/28/2005 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I knew someone who was at Wounded Knee. He wasn't bigoted though, IW. Both sides of my maternal line has some Indian dna, including Pochohantas. I expect most of us with European, or Canadian roots have some Indian dna. We prefered to steward the land, not ruin it. The Native Indians were not the first inhabitants of this land, but rather a mix of the Celtics, French, Phoenicians, Asians, and Indians from Central and South America. Archeological evidence shows this as far back as 20,000 years ago. The only human remains found in this country that old are Caucasian. Isn't it time you start being proud of being an American, and your mixed roots, like most of us are? Most of us are trying to work for the betterment of the people and the country. How about you? Are you working toward unity, or continued self pity and prejudice? It's kind of like the Middle East. Nobody knows who did what first, just like the Middle East. We've all had our asses kicked at one time or another. So, do you intend to continue blaming us in 2005 for what all of our ancestors may have had no choice in 3 or 400 years ago ? Or, get over it, get on with it, get a life, and do some good for humanity" Harmony, or continued disharmony? Your attitude is such a waste. **** PEACE **** UFO's @ [link to www.youtube.com] UFO photos & phenomena @ [link to www.picasaweb.google.com] MY GLP VIDEO CHANNEL * [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.futurequake.bravehost.com] |
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B.C. = "Before Columbus&q User ID: 12331 United States 12/29/2005 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO matter what you feel when you come away from reading that book, the fact remains is that you SHOULD read Dee's epic account A pivotal and momentous treatise on the issue of genocide & cultural subjugation Now as to the discussion of who was here first, you have to dig further and deeper into resources for that subject. [link to www.stonehengeusa.com] [link to www.amazon.com] [link to www.heritage.nf.ca] |
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The Lakota User ID: 58018 Canada 12/29/2005 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Never took soldiers prisoners, except to torture endlessly for hours. When they killed soldeirs they would hack off the genitals, rip out the eyeballs, put them on rocks, burn the genitals, hack and slash at the body or shoot a dozen arrows into it. They would gang rape any white woman they caught. Children were often and usually murdered, and NOT taken prisoner. They were a warrior race and made war until utterly defeated. They were also hiding arms at Wounded Knee. There are several mass massacres by Indians against whites in the history of the Colonies and the United States where hundreds of whites, men, woman, children, unarmed or armed were killed to the last man woman and child. Go rent the movie Last of the Mohicans and see what an Indian massacre was like against unarmed whites after an "honorable" surrender. It is very accurate history. |
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Black Jim User ID: 47065 United States 12/29/2005 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know what happened at Fort William Henry.That movie was a chick flick.How many times did the whites murder peaceful Indians? Ever hear of the Paxton Boys? Ever heard of what Custer did at the Washita? Sand Creek? Nathaniel Bacon killing unarmed Pamunkey Indians in Virginia? Smallpox blankets? I could go on........ |
Ol' Griz User ID: 6116 United States 12/30/2005 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | User I.D. 58018 Never took soldiers prisoners, except to torture endlessly for hours. (What would you do to protect your family?) When they killed soldeirs they would hack off the genitals, rip out the eyeballs, put them on rocks, burn the genitals, hack and slash at the body or shoot a dozen arrows into it. (At Little Bighorn this did occur. After the battle the women sought revenge against the soldiers corpses. Hate and fear are very powerful. This would also explain the vast number of gold teeth imported to the U.S. by our boys returning home from the Pacific theater during WWII.) They would gang rape any white woman they caught. Children were often and usually murdered, and NOT taken prisoner. (We never did that to them?) They were a warrior race and made war until utterly defeated. (The Nez Perce ran until they could run no more. They were starving, freezing to death, out numbered and outgunned. Our fear of their differences made them a warrior race. Our attrocities against them forced them to fight back. The Lakota language had no word for enemy, only stranger.) They were also hiding arms at Wounded Knee. (Maybe one or two, certainly not a cache of modern weapons. Definately not a threat to the 7th Cav. Someone lost their mud in the heat of the moment and many innocents were slaughtered as a result.) There are several mass massacres by Indians against whites in the history of the Colonies and the United States where hundreds of whites, men, woman, children, unarmed or armed were killed to the last man woman and child. (Several.) Go rent the movie Last of the Mohicans and see what an Indian massacre was like against unarmed whites after an "honorable" surrender. (While you're at it rent "Dances with Wolves" and take a good look at a beautiful, loving people that were all but wiped from the face of the earth because of fear, hate, and greed.) It is very accurate history. (I will leave you with some accurate history that I want you to think about the next time you sit down to your Thanksgiving feast.) Wake up! Griz THE REAL STORY OF THANKSGIVING by Susan Bates Most of us associate the holiday with happy Pilgrims and Indians sitting down to a big feast. And that did happen - once. The story began in 1614 when a band of English explorers sailed home to England with a ship full of Patuxet Indians bound for slavery. They left behind smallpox which virtually wiped out those who had escaped. By the time the Pilgrims arrived in Massachusetts Bay they found only one living Patuxet Indian, a man named Squanto who had survived slavery in England and knew their language. He taught them to grow corn and to fish, and negotiated a peace treaty between the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag Nation. At the end of their first year, the Pilgrims held a great feast honoring Squanto and the Wampanoags. But as word spread in England about the paradise to be found in the new world, religious zealots called Puritans began arriving by the boat load. Finding no fences around the land, they considered it to be in the public domain. Joined by other British settlers, they seized land, capturing strong young Natives for slaves and killing the rest. But the Pequot Nation had not agreed to the peace treaty Squanto had negotiated and they fought back. The Pequot War was one of the bloodiest Indian wars ever fought. In 1637 near present day Groton, Connecticut, over 700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe had gathered for their annual Green Corn Festival which is our Thanksgiving celebration. In the predawn hours the sleeping Indians were surrounded by English and Dutch mercenaries who ordered them to come outside. Those who came out were shot or clubbed to death while the terrified women and children who huddled inside the longhouse were burned alive. The next day the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared "A Day Of Thanksgiving" because 700 unarmed men, women and children had been murdered. Cheered by their "victory", the brave colonists and their Indian allies attacked village after village. Women and children over 14 were sold into slavery while the rest were murdered. Boats loaded with a many as 500 slaves regularly left the ports of New England. Bounties were paid for Indian scalps to encourage as many deaths as possible. Following an especially successful raid against the Pequot in what is now Stamford, Connecticut, the churches announced a second day of "thanksgiving" to celebrate victory over the heathen savages. During the feasting, the hacked off heads of Natives were kicked through the streets like soccer balls. Even the friendly Wampanoag did not escape the madness. Their chief was beheaded, and his head impaled on a pole in Plymouth, Massachusetts -- where it remained on display for 24 years. The killings became more and more frenzied, with days of thanksgiving feasts being held after each successful massacre. George Washington finally suggested that only one day of Thanksgiving per year be set aside instead of celebrating each and every massacre. Later Abraham Lincoln decreed Thanksgiving Day to be a legal national holiday during the Civil War -- on the same day he ordered troops to march against the starving Sioux in Minnesota. This story doesn't have quite the same fuzzy feelings associated with it as the one where the Indians and Pilgrims are all sitting down together at the big feast. But we need to learn our true history so it won't ever be repeated. Next Thanksgiving, when you gather with your loved ones to Thank God for all your blessings, think about those people who only wanted to live their lives and raise their families. They, also took time out to say "thank you" to Creator for all their blessings. It is sad to think that this happened, but it is important to understand all of the story and not just the happy part. Today the town of Plymouth Rock has a Thanksgiving ceremony each year in remembrance of the first Thanksgiving. There are still Wampanoag people living in Massachusetts. In 1970, they asked one of them to speak at the ceremony to mark the 350th anniversary of the Pilgrim's arrival. Here is part of what was said: "Today is a time of celebrating for you -- a time of looking back to the first days of white people in America. But it is not a time of celebrating for me. It is with a heavy heart that I look back upon what happened to my People. When the Pilgrims arrived, we, the Wampanoags, welcomed them with open arms, little knowing that it was the beginning of the end. That before 50 years were to pass, the Wampanoag would no longer be a tribe. That we and other Indians living near the settlers would be killed by their guns or dead from diseases that we caught from them. Let us always remember, the Indian is and was just as human as the white people. Although our way of life is almost gone, we, the Wampanoags, still walk the lands of Massachusetts. What has happened cannot be changed. But today we work toward a better America, a more Indian America where people and nature once again are important." |
Graelwyn User ID: 58164 United Kingdom 12/30/2005 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read this book sometime ago, and it left me feeling very angry, pained and bitter. However, for Indian history, I would prefer to go within myself than into books. The only book I currently read connected to all of this is 'Black Elk Speaks'. At least it is written by one who was around during those difficult times. I subscribe to the view that it was human greed that bought about the atrocities of those wars...on the White Man's part. And nothing much has changed since. |
SilverVision(nli) User ID: 11386 United States 12/30/2005 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Grandmother was Cherokee. She died when my Father was 2......while he was growing up...he was constantly reminded to speak english.......to act white and never tell anyone he was Cherokee. It broke his heart. Even as a young man he told people(employers)that he was Italian(he was called Tony). Before he died, he spoke often about the indian ways and how he worshipped in private, prayed alone and asked for forgiveness every day for denying his blood, his heritage. He did it to protect his family.....to insure that we were accepted and given a chance. As a teenager, I learned all this and rebelled in some "not so good" ways. Now, I don't care what people think. I love the part of me that understands the earth, the cycles, the animals and the connection to spirit. I often "feel" my grandmother near...she guides me in many things. She nurtures "peace in all things" in my thoughts and dreams. My Mother was French/British......I love all people, regardless of their race.....but I attribute my ability to feel this to my Indian DNA. It just seems to come with the territory. |