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Freemasons are known as "BUILDERS". They revere The Great ARCHITECT Of The Universe (TGAOTU).

Consider the terms...

The ARCHITECT draws up the plan.

Then the BUILDERS manifest that plan physically via construction.

Initiates of the ancient mystery schools have long been known as BUILDERS. It long predates Freemasonry. It's a symbolic term for physically manifesting the plans put forth by an ARCHITECT.

Jesus was known as a "carpenter". Are we to believe he built cabinetry in his workroom like Bob Villa? It was a symbolic term. Whether an actual person or a fictional character in an allegorical tale, Jesus was an initiate of the ancient mystery school, just as freeMASONS are today. Go into a Freemason lodge today. Think you'll find anyone who lays brick for a living? It's symbolic. And it goes back millennia.

Questions arise...

1) Who or what is the ARCHITECT?

2) What exactly are the ARCHITECT'S PLANS?

3) Do these plans benefit mankind or only the ARCHITECT?

4) Is there a point of completion or is the building infinite?

OR....are we human beings the rudimentary architectural plan, and it's our responsibility to "build" ourselves in an attempt to reach perfection, or something close to it? What would perfection entail?
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I have been pondering this too. it is important. Feeling heavy heavy energy tonite. Somethng building for sure. peace
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If we're "builders" in the sense that we are constructing ourselves to be as "perfect" as we can be based on the blueprint given to us (ourselves upon birth) by the Architect, for what purpose is it? In other words, does building ourselves toward perfection (again, what does that actually MEAN?!) translate into something better for our soul/energy after death? If so, what would that be? Does it improve the "whole"?

In other words, for what purpose should we "build" ourselves toward perfection? And what IS "perfection"? In whose eyes would it be the definition of "perfection"?

Nearly all (if not all, but I try to stay away from absolutes) the ancient mystery schools urge the initiate to seek "perfection" by building from within oneself. What might it ultimately mean? What could be the importance of this?
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Our instruction is to "Overcome the Earth".
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Rate this thread "AMAZING" if you like, so we can give it some traction, and get a lot of people's input on these questions. They are, after all, the ultimate questions of life.

Also, a "BUMP" icon would be most appreciated. I think we'll get some interesting ideas.

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Thanks!

Oh, oops...that was me. ;-)
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Why would it be in the best interest of this TGAOTU (The Great Architect Of The Universe) to have its blueprint constructed to perfection?

And why were we not "perfect" to begin with? Why must we work toward it?
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"DON'T LOOK FOR ANSWERS. FIND THE QUESTIONS."
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Real question is:


If I walk into a lodge and walk up to the most alpha looking man there and say I'm a builder and I will work with you.


Will jaws drop?
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Why would it be in the best interest of this TGAOTU (The Great Architect Of The Universe) to have its blueprint constructed to perfection?

And why were we not "perfect" to begin with? Why must we work toward it?
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Or maybe it's not a matter of being born "flawed" (like the Catholic Church's "Original Sin" belief), but rather maybe it's that when we're born, we're a blank slate, an empty palate upon which to paint a masterpiece. And it's up to us whether or not to paint a Van Gogh or a child's finger-painting.

The question is still, though, for what purpose? Just so at the end of our lives, we can say, "I strived for perfection in all I did." Okay, that's great. But...so what? What does that matter when you're dead? Unless....maybe "perfecting" ourselves in this, our physical existence, translates to something important once we leave our mortal coil.
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Real question is:


If I walk into a lodge and walk up to the most alpha looking man there and say I'm a builder and I will work with you.


Will jaws drop?
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If you are not a Freemason when you go in there and ask that, I'd imagine the guy would answer, "Are you inquiring about becoming a Mason?"
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every human born on earth is the great architect, or at least has the potential to be so. just like we all have the potential to be buddha/christ/saints/gods/goddesses whilst in physical form as humans on sacred earth

just because sick demented fuckwad apes and primitive spirits turned this place into a hellhole does not mean that earth is not the most beautiful and sacred planet in the universe you fuckin stupid dumb dicksucking motherfuckers

obviously not all realise this in the physical cos secret societies do not share the truth with the common man and the parasitic agenda has been working hand in hand with the corrupt slaves to sensual desire and greed (who "run/ran" this world on paper) in withholding this information (what should be common knowledge) and the manipulation of everything else out there. the manipulation and brainwashing has gone so far that truth in words alone is not enough to open the eyes of the sleep walkers

truth is simple:

dream big
see cause and effect
the dream is the cause
the effect will depend on what and how your dream will change those around you and the world
naturally if you only look out for yourself/your own the effect will be fairly small
if you look out for all of your brothers and sisters this will create a massive ripple in the source energy creation grid and you better be ready for the shitstorms/tidal waves coming your way (to build new things old shit must be destroyed. generally the players are not willing to sacrifice anything for the better of the greater good so they will fight like little gay pooftas and spoiled brats to hold onto to every little worthless piece of material shit they have and get their fuckwit minions to fight to the death and cause misery to others in the process

additionally, the source of sources will test you many times prior to the physical manifestation from the non-physical (post the original thought/dream)

if you stand your ground, have faith and fight like a real human being with merit the keys to the universe will unfold before your very eyes! it may take a while and appear that all is lost but that's where faith comes into it. blind faith even. the sky is not the limit, there is no limit. there are no rules (other than cause & effect) once you enter the realms of physical manifestation from original thought/dreams
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Masons work with brick and stones not wood.

MA'SON, n. ma'sn.

1. A man whose occupation is to lay bricks and stones, or to construct the walls of buildings, chimneys and the like, which consist of bricks or stones.

2. A member of the fraternity of free masons.

The first instance was the Tower of Babel (the first masons)

Genesis 11

1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

When God broke this endeavor up He confused the languages but they took their religious practices with them all over the world.

Perhaps the Freemasons are or are not keepers of some of this ancient religion. Or maybe they are or are not being used to blame to cover for what others are doing. I really do not know, but I do know Jesus is a real person and was not a mason.
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Real question is:


If I walk into a lodge and walk up to the most alpha looking man there and say I'm a builder and I will work with you.


Will jaws drop?
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If you are not a Freemason when you go in there and ask that, I'd imagine the guy would answer, "Are you inquiring about becoming a Mason?"
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Boring answer disappoint, son.
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Masons work with brick and stones not wood.

MA'SON, n. ma'sn.

1. A man whose occupation is to lay bricks and stones, or to construct the walls of buildings, chimneys and the like, which consist of bricks or stones.

2. A member of the fraternity of free masons.

The first instance was the Tower of Babel (the first masons)

Genesis 11

1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

When God broke this endeavor up He confused the languages but they took their religious practices with them all over the world.

Perhaps the Freemasons are or are not keepers of some of this ancient religion. Or maybe they are or are not being used to blame to cover for what others are doing. I really do not know, but I do know Jesus is a real person and was not a mason.
 Quoting: _2 swords_


You don't, in fact, know that Jesus was a real person. You believe he was. That's fine. I don't know that he was or wasn't. That's not the point.

The point is that in the story (whether of a real person who existed, or of a fictional character in an allegorical tale) of Jesus was one of an initiate into the ancient mystery school. As such, he was an esoteric BUILDER; in this case, a carpenter. Just like today, esoteric "builders" are known as masons.
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Real question is:


If I walk into a lodge and walk up to the most alpha looking man there and say I'm a builder and I will work with you.


Will jaws drop?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11696035


If you are not a Freemason when you go in there and ask that, I'd imagine the guy would answer, "Are you inquiring about becoming a Mason?"
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Boring answer disappoint, son.
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To you it might be boring, but there's protocol to follow.

Every man must come of his own free will and accord.

Freemasons can't "recruit".

What do YOU think he'd say? Seriously. I tried to answer as realistically as I could in your given scenario.
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Well if anyone on here can say we are doing better,I will call them a fool.Look at how fu**ed up the world is,A handful of Satanic scum control everything,They get us to fight there wars,We are the Babylon banksters slaves...!!!
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Masons work with brick and stones not wood.

MA'SON, n. ma'sn.

1. A man whose occupation is to lay bricks and stones, or to construct the walls of buildings, chimneys and the like, which consist of bricks or stones.

2. A member of the fraternity of free masons.

The first instance was the Tower of Babel (the first masons)

Genesis 11

1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

When God broke this endeavor up He confused the languages but they took their religious practices with them all over the world.

Perhaps the Freemasons are or are not keepers of some of this ancient religion. Or maybe they are or are not being used to blame to cover for what others are doing. I really do not know, but I do know Jesus is a real person and was not a mason.
 Quoting: _2 swords_


You don't, in fact, know that Jesus was a real person. You believe he was. That's fine. I don't know that he was or wasn't. That's not the point.

The point is that in the story (whether of a real person who existed, or of a fictional character in an allegorical tale) of Jesus was one of an initiate into the ancient mystery school. As such, he was an esoteric BUILDER; in this case, a carpenter. Just like today, esoteric "builders" are known as masons.
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Again there is a difference between a mason and a carpenter.

It is not a fact that I do not know whether Jesus is real or not. I know He is and you can not prove otherwise.
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Masons work with brick and stones not wood.

MA'SON, n. ma'sn.

1. A man whose occupation is to lay bricks and stones, or to construct the walls of buildings, chimneys and the like, which consist of bricks or stones.

2. A member of the fraternity of free masons.

The first instance was the Tower of Babel (the first masons)

Genesis 11

1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

When God broke this endeavor up He confused the languages but they took their religious practices with them all over the world.

Perhaps the Freemasons are or are not keepers of some of this ancient religion. Or maybe they are or are not being used to blame to cover for what others are doing. I really do not know, but I do know Jesus is a real person and was not a mason.
 Quoting: _2 swords_


You don't, in fact, know that Jesus was a real person. You believe he was. That's fine. I don't know that he was or wasn't. That's not the point.

The point is that in the story (whether of a real person who existed, or of a fictional character in an allegorical tale) of Jesus was one of an initiate into the ancient mystery school. As such, he was an esoteric BUILDER; in this case, a carpenter. Just like today, esoteric "builders" are known as masons.
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Again there is a difference between a mason and a carpenter.

It is not a fact that I do not know whether Jesus is real or not. I know He is and you can not prove otherwise.
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The point IS, they're both "BUILDERS". Jeez. Knock, Knock...HELLOOOOO, McFLY!!!!?"

It IS a fact that you don't know whether or not Jesus actually lived. There is absolutely no proof. Doesn't mean he necessarily didn't exist. But you don't KNOW that he did. You choose to BELIEVE that he did. Very important difference there, McFly, between fact and belief.
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Masons work with brick and stones not wood.

MA'SON, n. ma'sn.

1. A man whose occupation is to lay bricks and stones, or to construct the walls of buildings, chimneys and the like, which consist of bricks or stones.

2. A member of the fraternity of free masons.

The first instance was the Tower of Babel (the first masons)

Genesis 11

1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

When God broke this endeavor up He confused the languages but they took their religious practices with them all over the world.

Perhaps the Freemasons are or are not keepers of some of this ancient religion. Or maybe they are or are not being used to blame to cover for what others are doing. I really do not know, but I do know Jesus is a real person and was not a mason.
 Quoting: _2 swords_


You don't, in fact, know that Jesus was a real person. You believe he was. That's fine. I don't know that he was or wasn't. That's not the point.

The point is that in the story (whether of a real person who existed, or of a fictional character in an allegorical tale) of Jesus was one of an initiate into the ancient mystery school. As such, he was an esoteric BUILDER; in this case, a carpenter. Just like today, esoteric "builders" are known as masons.
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Again there is a difference between a mason and a carpenter.

It is not a fact that I do not know whether Jesus is real or not. I know He is and you can not prove otherwise.
 Quoting: _2 swords_


Please look up the term "metaphor" in the dictionary. A mason and a carpenter are each metaphors for a "builder".
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Why would it be in the best interest of this TGAOTU (The Great Architect Of The Universe) to have its blueprint constructed to perfection?

And why were we not "perfect" to begin with? Why must we work toward it?
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Because the great architect does not want to be bored, creates incomplete, yet complete, so that it can be completed.

Much like a chess board in play, left out on the table between two friends, over a period of years. ;)

In fact, perfection is the least action of all, so once achieved, does not last very long, other wise stagnation occurs.

Most think that the next phase is going to be wonderful.

It is not.

Like a video game with levels, so too is the universe, and when the next level is achieved, you start out in the lowest rung of that level, and it gets more difficult.

Over time mastery occurs, and the same advancement takes place.

There is no dropping down to lower levels.

Only learning what one needs, when they need it, as the entire structure progresses ever 'forward'.
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Freemasons are known as "BUILDERS". They revere The Great ARCHITECT Of The Universe (TGAOTU).

Consider the terms...

The ARCHITECT draws up the plan.

Then the BUILDERS manifest that plan physically via construction.

Initiates of the ancient mystery schools have long been known as BUILDERS. It long predates Freemasonry. It's a symbolic term for physically manifesting the plans put forth by an ARCHITECT.

Jesus was known as a "carpenter". Are we to believe he built cabinetry in his workroom like Bob Villa? It was a symbolic term. Whether an actual person or a fictional character in an allegorical tale, Jesus was an initiate of the ancient mystery school, just as freeMASONS are today. Go into a Freemason lodge today. Think you'll find anyone who lays brick for a living? It's symbolic. And it goes back millennia.

Questions arise...

1) Who or what is the ARCHITECT?

2) What exactly are the ARCHITECT'S PLANS?

3) Do these plans benefit mankind or only the ARCHITECT?

4) Is there a point of completion or is the building infinite?

OR....are we human beings the rudimentary architectural plan, and it's our responsibility to "build" ourselves in an attempt to reach perfection, or something close to it? What would perfection entail?
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


1. The architects were the Angles or whatever name you want to give them; they assisted or carried out creation to some degree.

2. There are two different factions; one that follows Gods plan and one whos only goal is to corrupt and pervert creation.

3. There is a war between the architects and one side wins.

4. Infinate because energy/spirit is infinate.

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Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Re: THE GREAT ARCHITECT OF THE UNIVERSE DRAWS UP THE PLAN, AND HIS "BUILDERS" BUILD IT *****MUST READ*****
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Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.

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