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Who is the true Freemasonic King? THE TRUTH IS HERE!

 
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For the Egyptians it was the creator-king Ra, for the Sumerians it was the high god An, from whom kingship descended. Similarly, the Hindu Brahma, the Chinese Huang-ti, Mexican Quetzalcoatl, Mayan Itzam Na and numerous counterparts among other nations, all preside over a paradisal epoch, while establishing the ideals and principles of kingship.

In Egypt, Mesopotamia, Persia, China, Greece, Italy, northern Europe, pre-Columbian Mexico and Central America--in fact, wherever the institution of kingship arose--the general rule is that royal genealogies lead back to this exemplary ruler, celebrated as the first in a sacred line of kings. The different myths recount in rich detail how the god built a great temple or city in primeval times, invented the alphabet, or taught a new language to a pre-literate race. They say it was he who invented the wheel, introduced the science of agriculture, instituted laws, and taught the true religion--in short, brought to a barbarous race all of the arts of civilization.

There is also a crucial connection here. This "ancestor-king" is so completely identified with the Golden Age that it is impossible to separate the one myth from the other. There is no Golden Age without a founding king, no founding king without a Golden Age.

The fabulous chronology of Egyptian kings or pharaohs offers a telling example. In his sweeping history of ancient Egypt, the Greek historian Herodotus enumerates the early lineage of kings. He tells us that there was a first king of Egypt, and his name was Helios. This first king of Egypt was not a mere mortal! He was a celestial power.

Of course Herodotus was simply translating an Egyptian name into Greek. For the Egyptians, the institution of kingship began with the rule of the primeval sun god Atum or Ra, who, prior to his retirement from the world, founded the Zep Tepi, the First Time, or Golden Age.

In Egypt all of the kingship rites point backwards to the age of Ra, a supreme god celebrated from one end of Egypt to the other as the prototype of kings. Indeed, every historical king's or pharaoh's authority derived from a connection to the ancestral king, for as the best Egyptologists have pointed out, the pharaoh was accredited as such by the claim that the blood of Atum-Ra coursed through his veins.

In rites deeply rooted in Egyptian cosmology, each new king symbolically ascended the throne of Ra, took as spouse Ra's own mistress, the mother goddess, wielded Ra's scepter, built temples and cities modeled after Ra's temple or city in the sky, adorned himself with the beard of the god, wore the crown of Ra as his own, and defeated neighboring enemies in just the way that Ra had defeated the hordes of darkness or chaos in the Zep Tepi. Identification of local king and celestial prototype was absolute.

Such is the universal tradition. Every king was, in a magical way, the Universal Monarch reborn. And this is why the chroniclers of king took such pains to establish the unbroken line. Only by proclaiming that the local king carried the blood of his predecessor, the Universal Monarch, could they certify his suitability for the prescribed function of kings.

The ancient Sumerians repeatedly proclaimed that kingship had descended directly from the creator-king An, the most ancient and highest god of the pantheon, and the revered founder of the Golden Age.

Consider the myths and images of the Hindu Brahma, Manu or Yama, the Iranian Yima, Danish Frodhi, or Chinese Huang-Ti--all models of the good king, ruling over a primitive paradise. The respective cultures esteemed these mythical figures as prototypes. In later ages the chroniclers have such figures ruling on earth. But in the earliest traditions the kingdom is in the sky, and the ancient rule of the Universal Monarch is one of the most pervasive archetypes of world mythology.

Natives of Mexico insisted that the great god Quetzalcoatl, a sun god who ruled before the present sun, was their first king and founder of the kingship rites. He not only introduced all of the arts of civilization, but presided over an ancient paradise.

The ancient Maya proclaimed that their once-spectacular civilization had its origins in the rule of the creator-king and god of the Golden Age, Itzam Na. At the center of Mayan culture, stood the sovereign chief, announcing himself as something like "the King of Kings and ruler of the world, regent on earth of the great Itzam Na."

The leading Mayan expert, J. Eric Thompson, saw this as an "inflated notion of grandeur….a sort of divine right of kings which would have turned James I green with envy." And yet throughout the ancient world, one encounters this divine "grandeur" of kings at every turn.

The original concept may appear as self flattery, but it actually has more to do with a burden of kings, the requirement that the king live up to the mythical aura of the revered predecessor. Never was there a king in early times that did not wear the dress of a mythical god--the model of the good ruler. Whatever the celestial, founding king had achieved, it was the duty of the present king, pharaoh, or emperor to duplicate, at least through symbolic repetition. For such was the first test of a good king.

This historical burden of kings will explain why every king was expected to renew the primeval era of peace and plenty.

Why, for example, was the Egyptian Pharaoh Thutmose III so eager to announce that he had restored conditions "as they were in the beginning", in the Zep Tepi or Golden Age of Ra? Or why did the Pharaoh Amenhotep III congratulate himself so for having made the country "flourish as in primeval times..."? The Pharaoh was expected to repeat the achievements of the celestial prototype.

In the same way, when the Sumerian king Dungi ascended the throne, it was declared that a champion had arisen to restore the original Paradise.. Indeed, every Sumerian king was expected to reproduce the wonders of "That Day," or the "Year of Abundance"--the Golden Age of An. When the famous Assyrian king Assurbanipal took the throne, the chroniclers proclaimed that "the harvest was plentiful, the corn was abundant. . .the cattle multiplied exceedingly." For such was the accreditation of a good king.

Among the Hebrews, the expectation was continually expressed that the king would introduce a new Golden Age. The Irish King, according to the respected expert J. A. MacCulloch, ruled under the same expectation: "Prosperity was supposed to characterize every good king's reign in Ireland," MacCulloch writes, and "the result is precisely that which everywhere marked the golden age."

This is, of course, a very familiar idea. In the words of the eminent psychoanalyst, Carl Jung, the ancient king was "the magical source of welfare and prosperity." It's interesting how often scholars have noticed the theme, without explaining it. How did this universal idea arise--that the earth is fruitful under the good king?

According to the myths themselves, the ideals of kingship were a mirror of the life and personality of the great celestial king whose rule brought abundance and cosmic harmony. Hence, the same state of things should accompany that king's successors who share in the blood-line and charisma of the great predecessor, whether that predecessor is called Ra or An, Quetzalcoatl or Itzam Na.
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maybe it is time to look at the origin of king in a different way than our traditional imaginative beliefs indicate must be true
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Lucifer is NOT Satan or the Devil.

Has I had stated, the facts are Lucifer is mentioned only once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12.

Not any other time is Lucifer mentioned and at no time as it been mentioned with Satan or the Devil. Hence, any assumptions you may have that Lucifer is Satan or the Devil is false and based on heresy. What this means is that you need to get educated by reading about this yourself and I will provide as much as I can here below. If you think I AM lying or trying to mislead you, then the burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong by not stating your alleged facts, but providing evidence of your proof which I bet that you simply will never ever find in a million years.
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Hi again OP ~ Lucifer was the name before the fall, Satan (which means accrued or rejected) is the name after...They are sorta the same, but one was in a state of purity and obedience whilst the other is in a state of rebellion. It is very simple really...

The Mason King is Satan once known as Lucifer, The King Soloman was a God Fearer and did not transgress; he was given Keys of Power over the Principalities in the world outside our vision... The Mason haven't been given this authority or permission... The one they worship is the Great Deceiver...so perhaps can be called Anit-Christ to as this is against what is Godly...

Ones who plot and plan in secret should never be trusted...
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Lucifer is NOT Satan or the Devil.

Has I had stated, the facts are Lucifer is mentioned only once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12.

Not any other time is Lucifer mentioned and at no time as it been mentioned with Satan or the Devil. Hence, any assumptions you may have that Lucifer is Satan or the Devil is false and based on heresy. What this means is that you need to get educated by reading about this yourself and I will provide as much as I can here below. If you think I AM lying or trying to mislead you, then the burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong by not stating your alleged facts, but providing evidence of your proof which I bet that you simply will never ever find in a million years.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Hi again OP ~ Lucifer was the name before the fall, Satan (which means accrued or rejected) is the name after...They are sorta the same, but one was in a state of purity and obedience whilst the other is in a state of rebellion. It is very simple really...

The Mason King is Satan once known as Lucifer, The King Soloman was a God Fearer and did not transgress; he was given Keys of Power over the Principalities in the world outside our vision... The Mason haven't been given this authority or permission... The one they worship is the Great Deceiver...so perhaps can be called Anit-Christ to as this is against what is Godly...

Ones who plot and plan in secret should never be trusted...
 Quoting: Nemesis-incognitO


Hey Nemesis how are you??hf

Maybe secrets are needed for a time being to accomplish a greater goal that the population is not suppose to know about.
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So, after 15 pages, did anyone figure out the truth of why I started this thread?
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Spill the beans !
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Sure, the true Freemasonic King is King Solomon, AKA King Charles the Bald (Charlemagne) and the original Grand Architect/Master is the allegorical Hi-Ram Abiff who is Johannes Scottus Eriugena, AKA Saint Bede, John the Irishman, John the Scotchman and Saint John the Divine.

:johnandserpent:

John Scotus is the Saint who took over the Palatine Academy at the invitation of Carolingian King Charles the Bald.



Idol1John Scotus (AKA Bede & Saint John the Divine) may also be the figure head behind the story of the murdered "allegorical" grand master honored by Freemasons known to the world as, Hiram Abiff. Just like the Masonic legend of Hiram, John Scotus was also murdered by his students who had attempted to unsuccessfully steal their master's secrets. However, instead of murdering him with Mason Tools like that of the Hiram Abiff legend, they had murdered the Grand Master John Scotus with their pens. Manly P. Hall calls the Grand Master of the Dionysiac Architects, CHiram Abiff, a Widow's Son and guess what, this same John Scotus had worked on a Latin translation of Dionysius the Areopagite undertaken at the request of Charles the Bald (Charlemagne).

In fact, there are so many coincidences that this is no coincidence and nothing short of an ancient religious and or secret society conspiracy. A conspiracy that Europe’s greatest philosopher of the early Middle Ages, John Scotus who was actually born in Scotland and the Father of English History and Doctor of the Catholic Church, Saint Bede are in fact the same person. A man whose blood, race, nationality, teachings and rites that have been detested by Rome and contested by the Templars for the last 1300 years. This would also be the same “John” who we also know of today in the New Testament as John of Patmos or Saint John the Divine who wrote the Apocalypse of St John (Revelations of St John). In addition, to the above connections tying Bede and Scotus together as the same person, they both had miraculously wrote a Commentary on the Gospel of John.
 Quoting: HEYLEL



Again, what a bullshit. Read [link to www.usbible.com]
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See the Masonic Symbol right under the UFO?

More will be revealed in time.......
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


BS.

Because I want to be better servant, I call all the servants my masters. That makes me better servant.

Reveal everything now in simple english.
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I can't, not yet.

I can say the Freemasons are guarding the Holy Ark of the Covenant.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Bah. The Ark of the Covenant is an astronomical term. "Ark" is a pun for "arc" and "covenant" symbolizes "cover." The sun travels in an arc as it rises from the east and sets in the west.
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That is it's Alchemy and how it is kept hidden but not lost.

The Ark is a ship that consumes no fuel to fly.

To understand where it gets its power, you need to be retaught about the nature of charges. Research Lord Kelvin's water drop generators to start.

A dense object is dense because it is saturated with + and - charges in balance. Divide them from each other to get a charge. They can be divided to billions of volts in a small cubic inch, the potential is unlimited.
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BS.

Because I want to be better servant, I call all the servants my masters. That makes me better servant.

Reveal everything now in simple english.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16417328


I can't, not yet.

I can say the Freemasons are guarding the Holy Ark of the Covenant.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Bah. The Ark of the Covenant is an astronomical term. "Ark" is a pun for "arc" and "covenant" symbolizes "cover." The sun travels in an arc as it rises from the east and sets in the west.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16417328


That is it's Alchemy and how it is kept hidden but not lost.

The Ark is a ship that consumes no fuel to fly.

To understand where it gets its power, you need to be retaught about the nature of charges. Research Lord Kelvin's water drop generators to start.

A dense object is dense because it is saturated with + and - charges in balance. Divide them from each other to get a charge. They can be divided to billions of volts in a small cubic inch, the potential is unlimited.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Allegory is what I would call it instead of Alchemy or parable.. I do understand how magnets work thanks to Leedskalnins work. I do understand how to manipulate transverse and longitudial waves. What I don't have is assets to do the damn thing, because of miseducation people are indoctrinated to believe.
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Children of the Stars - by Nicholas de Vere

In Aryan Samael or Ahura (Ash-ura?) Mazda is called Tvashtri or Tv-Ash-Tri and rumor has it that he, the elder brother, actually sired Indra who, when the pantheon is streamlined, turns out to be Dyaus Pater, which has certain ramifications when converted into Sumerian because Tvashtri "the Fashioner" converts as we have seen into Enki-Nidimmud "The Craftsman" whose brother isn’t Ninurta (Indra), but Dyaus Pater or Enlil.

At this juncture we must break off and study the Aryan Naga - the serpent devas, guardians of treasures "hidden in water". We will do this by first looking at the Hebrew word nahash. this word means serpent (and thus dragon) and derives from the consonant root N’H’SH - a snake.

In Hebrew Qabalah and particularly and rather oddly, in relation to the Jewish practice of divination by birds orOrnithomancy, the serpent or Nahash is one who discovers hidden secrets or wisdom from the Raven, the Dove or theSwan (Warburg Lectures, Universtity of London, private dissertation on Qabalah and Jewish Ornithomancy 1996). TheN’H’SH is Enki-Samael the SU.HUR.MASH (Capricorn - the Goat-Headed Sea Serpent) or A.LU.LIM (Ram of the "Glittering" [or Shining, as in Elven] Waters) is associated with Lilith of the Qlipphoth or "Abyss" (the APSU or watery deeps - ie lakes, wells, vulvas etc).

In remembering that Sumerian can be reversed, we can look at the Hebrew N’H’SH again and see that if it is reversed, as was the custom in Hebrew Qabalah when rabbis were tinkering around with language looking for hidden meanings, it becomes SH’H’N which is pronounced She’an, ’of the Powers’. Furthermore the numerical or gematric value of N’H’SH in Qabalah is 9 which is the number of Yesod, the sephirah of the Moon, whose Phoenician God was the Sumerian SIN or SHIN - She’en.
Finally we must consider Tiamat. Her name - TI.A.MAT - means life-water-maiden. This translates as "maiden of the waters of life" and it is then clear that her name indicates she was both the first known matriarch...

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12-23. At that time, the one of great wisdom, the creator of all the senior gods, Enki lay on his bed, not waking up from his sleep, in the deep engur, in the subterranean water, the place the inside of which no other god knows. The gods said, weeping: "He is the cause of the lamenting!" Namma, the primeval mother who gave birth to the senior gods, took the tears of the gods to the one who lay sleeping, to the one who did not wake up from his bed, to her son: "Are you really lying there asleep, and …… not awake?

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Ptah (Pteh, Peteh) was the predynastic Mennefer (Hikuptah, Memphis) god of craftsmen, pottery and creation. The Egyptians believed that he was a god who created everything from artifacts to the world egg to the other deities themselves. The Opening of the Mouth ceremony was believed to have been devised by him. He was a god of creation and rebirth.

The origin of Ptah's name is unclear, though some believe it to mean 'opener' or 'sculptor'. As a god of craftsmen, the later is probably correct. He was a patron of the arts, protector of stonecutters, sculptors, blacksmiths, architects, boat builders, artists and craftsmen. (Rothschilds-Bauer- bau in German meaning construct or build)

His high priest was given the title wr khrp hmw, 'Great Leader of Craftsmen', and his priests were probably linked to the different crafts. It was believed that Ptah invented masonry and that it was he who crafted the boats that the dead used to travel to the Duat. The Book of the Dead describes him as: ...a master architect, and framer of everything in the universe... -- Egypt - Myths and Legends, Lewis Spence

The mighty Great One is Ptah, who transmitted [life to all gods], as well as (to) their kas... (Thus) it happened that the heart and tongue gained control over [every] (other) member of the body, by teaching that he [i.e., Ptah] is in every body and in every mouth of all gods, all men, [all] cattle, all creeping things, and (every thing) that lives, by thinking and commanding everything that he wishes... Thus all the gods were formed and his Ennead was completed.

Indeed, all the divine order really came into being through what the heart thought and the tongue commanded. Thus the ka-spirits were made... by this speech... Thus were made all work and all crafts, the action of the arms, the movement of the legs, and the activity of every member, in conformance with (this) command which the heart thought, which came forth through the tongue, and which gives value to everything. -- Primal Myths, Barbara C. Sproul

As father and creator of the gods, the deities he created
first were Nun and Naunet and the nine gods of the Ennead. The nine were Tem, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthys who were considered to be both the teeth and lips of the mouth of Ptah and the semen and the hands of Tem. He was linked to two other Mennefer gods - Ta-tenen and Sokar. Ta-tenen (known as Ptah-Ta-tenen when the two were combined) was an earth god connected with the primeval mound as it rose from the waters of Nun while Sokar was a god of the necropolis.

This reinforced Ptah's aspects of a god of creation and a god of the dead. Ptah-Sokar was also connected with Osiris, and known as Ptah-Sokar-Osiris. Statues of the three-in-one god showed a mummiform man wearing the sun disk, corkscrew ram horns and long plumes or the atef crown. These statues often contained a copy of spells from The Book of the Dead.

It was said in the Shabaka Stone, that it was Ptah who called the world into being, having dreamt creation in his heart, and speaking it, his name meaning opener, in the sense of opener of the mouth. Indeed the opening of the mouth ceremony, performed by priests at funerals to release souls from their corpses, was said to have been created by Ptah. Atum was said to have been created by Ptah.

Since Ptah had called creation into being, he was considered the god of craftsmen, and in particular stone-based crafts. Eventually, due to the connection of these things to tombs, and that at Thebes, the craftsmen regarded him so highly as to say that he controlled their destiny. Consequently, first amongst the craftsmen, then the population as a whole, Ptah also became a god of reincarnation. Since Seker was also god of craftsmen, and of reincarnation, Seker was later assimilated with Ptah becoming Ptah-Seker.

In the Memphite theology, Ptah is the primal creator, the first of all the gods, creator of the world and all that is in it. He is the artificer, the creator god, according to the priests of Memphis, the ancient capitol of Egypt. Ptah is not created, but simply is.

As father and creator of the gods, the deities he created first were Nun and Naunet and the nine gods of the Ennead. The nine were Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthys who were considered to be both the teeth and lips of the mouth of Ptah and the semen and the hands of Tem.

The Egyptian word Makhaut (clan or family) became the the Irish Maccu and the Maccu of the Donalds (clan of Donalds) now reflected in the name MacDonald. The sacred keepers of the Clan-Stone in Arran, were also known by the family name of Clan-Chattons. Another word for clan is Mack and the Clan-Chattons were also known as Mack-Intosh. Ptah-rekh the name of the Egyptian god Ptah was passed down to us by the Druids adopting the name Patrick, which sounded similar. St. Patricks day then is a Christianized form of a druidic holiday which originally had its origins in Egypt.
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So, after 15 pages, did anyone figure out the truth of why I started this thread?
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Spill the beans !
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Sure, the true Freemasonic King is King Solomon, AKA King Charles the Bald (Charlemagne) and the original Grand Architect/Master is the allegorical Hi-Ram Abiff who is Johannes Scottus Eriugena, AKA Saint Bede, John the Irishman, John the Scotchman and Saint John the Divine.

johnandserpent

John Scotus is the Saint who took over the Palatine Academy at the invitation of Carolingian King Charles the Bald.



Idol1John Scotus (AKA Bede & Saint John the Divine) may also be the figure head behind the story of the murdered "allegorical" grand master honored by Freemasons known to the world as, Hiram Abiff. Just like the Masonic legend of Hiram, John Scotus was also murdered by his students who had attempted to unsuccessfully steal their master's secrets. However, instead of murdering him with Mason Tools like that of the Hiram Abiff legend, they had murdered the Grand Master John Scotus with their pens. Manly P. Hall calls the Grand Master of the Dionysiac Architects, CHiram Abiff, a Widow's Son and guess what, this same John Scotus had worked on a Latin translation of Dionysius the Areopagite undertaken at the request of Charles the Bald (Charlemagne).

In fact, there are so many coincidences that this is no coincidence and nothing short of an ancient religious and or secret society conspiracy. A conspiracy that Europe’s greatest philosopher of the early Middle Ages, John Scotus who was actually born in Scotland and the Father of English History and Doctor of the Catholic Church, Saint Bede are in fact the same person. A man whose blood, race, nationality, teachings and rites that have been detested by Rome and contested by the Templars for the last 1300 years. This would also be the same “John” who we also know of today in the New Testament as John of Patmos or Saint John the Divine who wrote the Apocalypse of St John (Revelations of St John). In addition, to the above connections tying Bede and Scotus together as the same person, they both had miraculously wrote a Commentary on the Gospel of John.
 Quoting: HEYLEL



Again, what a bullshit. Read [link to www.usbible.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16417328


No, that is BULLSHIT and just about everyone who has even written on this is a false prophet.

The celebration of August 29 is to celebrate Easter which is the day of Harvest = Divus Augustus Quirinus Dionysius, August 29th marks the day St John was 'allegorically" beheaded because this is when Jesus, AKA Augustus Caesar was made the cornerstone of the church and Messiah to the Gentiles.

Shakespeare reflected English popular culture in the indelible nature of anointing (Chrism):

Not all the water in the rough rude sea
Can wash the balm off an anointed king.


The allegorical beheading symbolized the fact that power was taken from Israel and John as the Head Peter and given to Rome and Jesus to now be the HEAD OF THE CHURCH. Jesus then made the family of John, Peter the rock.

Why do you think July 4th is our National Freedom Holy-day?

Maybe because of Caesar because the Romans loved their savior who brought peace to a bloody reign. “Pax Augusta” (Peace of Augustus) was celebrated with festivals as well as honored with coins and statues throughout the Empire. One of the most famous statues, Ara Pacis (Altar of Peace). The magnificent altar was commissioned on 4 July 13 BC by the Roman Senate to celebrate the peace established in the Empire after Augustus’s victories in Gaul and Hispania.
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Spill the beans !
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Sure, the true Freemasonic King is King Solomon, AKA King Charles the Bald (Charlemagne) and the original Grand Architect/Master is the allegorical Hi-Ram Abiff who is Johannes Scottus Eriugena, AKA Saint Bede, John the Irishman, John the Scotchman and Saint John the Divine.

johnandserpent

John Scotus is the Saint who took over the Palatine Academy at the invitation of Carolingian King Charles the Bald.



Idol1John Scotus (AKA Bede & Saint John the Divine) may also be the figure head behind the story of the murdered "allegorical" grand master honored by Freemasons known to the world as, Hiram Abiff. Just like the Masonic legend of Hiram, John Scotus was also murdered by his students who had attempted to unsuccessfully steal their master's secrets. However, instead of murdering him with Mason Tools like that of the Hiram Abiff legend, they had murdered the Grand Master John Scotus with their pens. Manly P. Hall calls the Grand Master of the Dionysiac Architects, CHiram Abiff, a Widow's Son and guess what, this same John Scotus had worked on a Latin translation of Dionysius the Areopagite undertaken at the request of Charles the Bald (Charlemagne).

In fact, there are so many coincidences that this is no coincidence and nothing short of an ancient religious and or secret society conspiracy. A conspiracy that Europe’s greatest philosopher of the early Middle Ages, John Scotus who was actually born in Scotland and the Father of English History and Doctor of the Catholic Church, Saint Bede are in fact the same person. A man whose blood, race, nationality, teachings and rites that have been detested by Rome and contested by the Templars for the last 1300 years. This would also be the same “John” who we also know of today in the New Testament as John of Patmos or Saint John the Divine who wrote the Apocalypse of St John (Revelations of St John). In addition, to the above connections tying Bede and Scotus together as the same person, they both had miraculously wrote a Commentary on the Gospel of John.
 Quoting: HEYLEL



Again, what a bullshit. Read [link to www.usbible.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16417328


No, that is BULLSHIT and just about everyone who has even written on this is a false prophet.

The celebration of August 29 is to celebrate Easter which is the day of Harvest = Divus Augustus Quirinus Dionysius, August 29th marks the day St John was 'allegorically" beheaded because this is when Jesus, AKA Augustus Caesar was made the cornerstone of the church and Messiah to the Gentiles.

Shakespeare reflected English popular culture in the indelible nature of anointing (Chrism):

Not all the water in the rough rude sea
Can wash the balm off an anointed king.


The allegorical beheading symbolized the fact that power was taken from Israel and John as the Head Peter and given to Rome and Jesus to now be the HEAD OF THE CHURCH. Jesus then made the family of John, Peter the rock.

Why do you think July 4th is our National Freedom Holy-day?

Maybe because of Caesar because the Romans loved their savior who brought peace to a bloody reign. “Pax Augusta” (Peace of Augustus) was celebrated with festivals as well as honored with coins and statues throughout the Empire. One of the most famous statues, Ara Pacis (Altar of Peace). The magnificent altar was commissioned on 4 July 13 BC by the Roman Senate to celebrate the peace established in the Empire after Augustus’s victories in Gaul and Hispania.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


American fact 101:

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Did you know Washington DC was originally called Rome and it wasn't until much later was the name changed to Washington DC?


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did someone call for the grand architect,lol...where do you think i get all my answers from in my threads? my ancestral DNA memories and -no one- inside a secret society has the balls to talk about out here in the "world"...chicken shits,slaves to their ego's and their greed...your galactic files are being updated with the word hinderer or helper...
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Sure, the true Freemasonic King is King Solomon, AKA King Charles the Bald (Charlemagne) and the original Grand Architect/Master is the allegorical Hi-Ram Abiff who is Johannes Scottus Eriugena, AKA Saint Bede, John the Irishman, John the Scotchman and Saint John the Divine.

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John Scotus is the Saint who took over the Palatine Academy at the invitation of Carolingian King Charles the Bald.



Idol1John Scotus (AKA Bede & Saint John the Divine) may also be the figure head behind the story of the murdered "allegorical" grand master honored by Freemasons known to the world as, Hiram Abiff. Just like the Masonic legend of Hiram, John Scotus was also murdered by his students who had attempted to unsuccessfully steal their master's secrets. However, instead of murdering him with Mason Tools like that of the Hiram Abiff legend, they had murdered the Grand Master John Scotus with their pens. Manly P. Hall calls the Grand Master of the Dionysiac Architects, CHiram Abiff, a Widow's Son and guess what, this same John Scotus had worked on a Latin translation of Dionysius the Areopagite undertaken at the request of Charles the Bald (Charlemagne).

In fact, there are so many coincidences that this is no coincidence and nothing short of an ancient religious and or secret society conspiracy. A conspiracy that Europe’s greatest philosopher of the early Middle Ages, John Scotus who was actually born in Scotland and the Father of English History and Doctor of the Catholic Church, Saint Bede are in fact the same person. A man whose blood, race, nationality, teachings and rites that have been detested by Rome and contested by the Templars for the last 1300 years. This would also be the same “John” who we also know of today in the New Testament as John of Patmos or Saint John the Divine who wrote the Apocalypse of St John (Revelations of St John). In addition, to the above connections tying Bede and Scotus together as the same person, they both had miraculously wrote a Commentary on the Gospel of John.
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Again, what a bullshit. Read [link to www.usbible.com]
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No, that is BULLSHIT and just about everyone who has even written on this is a false prophet.

The celebration of August 29 is to celebrate Easter which is the day of Harvest = Divus Augustus Quirinus Dionysius, August 29th marks the day St John was 'allegorically" beheaded because this is when Jesus, AKA Augustus Caesar was made the cornerstone of the church and Messiah to the Gentiles.

Shakespeare reflected English popular culture in the indelible nature of anointing (Chrism):

Not all the water in the rough rude sea
Can wash the balm off an anointed king.


The allegorical beheading symbolized the fact that power was taken from Israel and John as the Head Peter and given to Rome and Jesus to now be the HEAD OF THE CHURCH. Jesus then made the family of John, Peter the rock.

Why do you think July 4th is our National Freedom Holy-day?

Maybe because of Caesar because the Romans loved their savior who brought peace to a bloody reign. “Pax Augusta” (Peace of Augustus) was celebrated with festivals as well as honored with coins and statues throughout the Empire. One of the most famous statues, Ara Pacis (Altar of Peace). The magnificent altar was commissioned on 4 July 13 BC by the Roman Senate to celebrate the peace established in the Empire after Augustus’s victories in Gaul and Hispania.
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American fact 101:

Pentagram Washin

Did you know Washington DC was originally called Rome and it wasn't until much later was the name changed to Washington DC?


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it was originally called a swamp,lol.
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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A complete history of Freemasonry is beyond the scope of a single article. This article traces the early development of Freemasonry from organised bodies of operative stonemasons to the modern system of speculative lodges organised round regional or national "Grand Lodges".

As you see, there isn’t King


Many twentieth century totalitarian regimes, both Fascist and Communist have treated Freemasonry as a potential source of opposition due to its secret nature and international connections (not to mention its promotion of religious and political tolerance through its symbolism). It has been alleged by Masonic scholars that

THE LANGUAGE USED BY THE TOTALITARIAN REGIMES IS SIMILAR TO THAT USED BY SOME MODERN CRITICS OF FREEMASONRY.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Hiram Abiff...is an anagram, for the true name of Abraham
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Hiram Abiff...is an anagram, for the true name of Abraham
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Which is what? Ibrahim Aff? Abrahim Iff? Ifrahim fab? Harif Fimba? Now spill the beans cocksucker!
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Hiram Abiff...is an anagram, for the true name of Abraham
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Which is what? Ibrahim Aff? Abrahim Iff? Ifrahim fab? Harif Fimba? Now spill the beans cocksucker!
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Here's what I say: "I affirm: bah" and hoist up the bs-flag:
bsflag
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:King iz coming:

Do you know me yet???

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Do you know me yet???

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First lion, then aries (the ram horns) then fish (jeebus) and then aquarius. I ain't watching any videos. Seems You have a jesus-complex?
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Do you know me yet???

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First lion, then aries (the ram horns) then fish (jeebus) and then aquarius. I ain't watching any videos. Seems You have a jesus-complex?
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Then you will be missing much

And doesn't Jesus always have a Jesus complex???scratching


They won't listen without it

I do not stay quiet very easy

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John was the one, born at the right time, jesus was a fill in
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Do you know me yet???

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First lion, then aries (the ram horns) then fish (jeebus) and then aquarius. I ain't watching any videos. Seems You have a jesus-complex?
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Then you will be missing much

And doesn't Jesus always have a Jesus complex???scratching


They won't listen without it

I do not stay quiet very easy
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Ohh fuck it. it's night here, go away. you're the sun of course.
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Do you know me yet???

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First lion, then aries (the ram horns) then fish (jeebus) and then aquarius. I ain't watching any videos. Seems You have a jesus-complex?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15902416



Then you will be missing much

And doesn't Jesus always have a Jesus complex???scratching


They won't listen without it

I do not stay quiet very easy
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Ohh fuck it. it's night here, go away. you're the sun of course.
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May you have a sunny night sunsunsunsunsun
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Hiram Abiff...is an anagram, for the true name of Abraham
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do you not see AB in that "name"?it speaks of a man born under the sign of the ram who is AB negative blood type...the 2 f's means both his parents were AB negative..the i is on the negative side of the alphabet line scale as in a number scale meaning the i stands for negative..M and all letters to the left is negative and N and the other letters are to the right is positive..therefore this man is ab negative born from parents of ab negative blood ,born under the sign of Aries...all these traits belong to someone i know and some are still saying he cant be on this website...

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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John was the one, born at the right time, jesus was a fill in
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...john symbolizes the negative bloodlines and jesus symbolizes the positive blood types...that's why john is first before jesus..the leaders are negative blood types...its a science thing, not a religious thing...negative males are supposed to marry positive females...negative blood has leadership abilities as positive blood types are more followers...if the male is positive blood type and the female is negative blood type he will let the hen rule the roost...its vice versa for the negative males and positive females...except for a few environmental corruptions this will always be the case...check the blood types and the divorce rates and you will find negative parents dont always stay together because both want to lead...2 positive blood types as parents will look for a negative leader outside the union...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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John was the one, born at the right time, jesus was a fill in
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...john symbolizes the negative bloodlines and jesus symbolizes the positive blood types...that's why john is first before jesus..the leaders are negative blood types...its a science thing, not a religious thing...negative males are supposed to marry positive females...negative blood has leadership abilities as positive blood types are more followers...if the male is positive blood type and the female is negative blood type he will let the hen rule the roost...its vice versa for the negative males and positive females...except for a few environmental corruptions this will always be the case...check the blood types and the divorce rates and you will find negative parents dont always stay together because both want to lead...2 positive blood types as parents will look for a negative leader outside the union...
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PS,if you want your children or yourself without children looking for a mate to live happier after ever you might want to inform them of their blood type traits to find an opposite partner...this is what is really meant by "opposites attract"..a negative blood type and a positive blood type and the negatives are the born leaders...there's you some more freemasonic scientific intell from us AB negative blood types born under Aries from negative parents as kings...this is why a negative mother who's carrying a negative baby gets a shot because the DNA clashes as 2 leaders would...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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the freemasonic degree of the king is 99.99 because gods and kings are not perfect...to be 100 perfect, than humility would not exist still making god imperfect from 100 percent..99.99 degrees symbolizes 9999 hertz aka Regeneration Frequency...there's your RFID meaning> Regeneration Frequency IDentification...
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It is said in John 8:32 - Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Idol1 My question to you all is, "Do you know who the true Masonic King is?"

Is it Lucifer?

:Lucifer 1:

Is it Hiram Abiff?

:Freemason Priest:

Is it Jesus Christ?

:Jesus skates:

yoda Let us all help break a Masonic seal together on the GLP.
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I am him.
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It will no longer be known as masonry. That name has been dirtied.

I will destroy this kingdom, for its people have gone astray.

I will rebuild it.

Purple.
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It is said in John 8:32 - Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Idol1 My question to you all is, "Do you know who the true Masonic King is?"

Is it Lucifer?

:Lucifer 1:

Is it Hiram Abiff?

:Freemason Priest:

Is it Jesus Christ?

:Jesus skates:

yoda Let us all help break a Masonic seal together on the GLP.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


There is no Masonic "king". To suggest that there is would be a complete misunderstanding of Masonry.

God, the Lord our Father, is the author and creator of this universe. We answer to Him. We praise and give credit to Him. He is our master.





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