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The Level of the Fukushima-Contamination in Tokyo is decreasing!

 
the mighty Atom (OP)

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@ Canada ...795

but it is decreasing!
I observe this Area very well and i am in exchange
with many other People with a much better Equipment
than i have- all of them report the same- decreasing Levels!

This change nothing on the shitty Situation
in Daiichi itself or in the Hot-Zone!

Tokyo is safe at the moment and we need to
do a lot to make it even better!

But it is so typical for the Nazi-Enenews Fraction,
they really think that they know everything
and everyone who is saying something different
is a Shill, they organize themself in their Chat-Room
to oppress other People, this is bad and a well
known behavior of the Fascists!

"Give the Fascist Man a Gunshot because
enough is enough"
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Thank God for 90 day half-lifes.

Duh.
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yea but common sense OP, cesium, uranium, plutonium dont just go away, they have half lifes of 30 yrs and above. So common sense dictates, that it must have moved elsewhere, but its not gone away. Where its moved to you need to find out.
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yea but common sense OP, cesium, uranium, plutonium dont just go away, they have half lifes of 30 yrs and above. So common sense dictates, that it must have moved elsewhere, but its not gone away. Where its moved to you need to find out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


As you can see all my Videos (ca.80) are all
around of Tokyo, only a few are from my Balcony,
i even checked Kashiwa and found there real
high and intolerable Levels of Radiation,
but the surface of Tokyo is Limpo!

There is even no Isotopes in our Kindergarden
where we checked the Shoes from the Kids
with a Ludlum Pancake Geiger Counter!

We need to learn to make a difference,
in Fukushima they reduced the pressure
by a controlled Operation

jhh need to change computer

Continue:

In Daiichi we saw a more or less controlled Melt-Down
and there was not a huge Release of the heavy and deadly
Isotopes, even in the Hot Zone we cant find "much" of
Plutonium, Strontium or other ones!

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I think your detector is failing from being exposed to extremely high readings for to long.

Buy a new one.
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I think your detector is failing from being exposed to extremely high readings for to long.

Buy a new one.
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Doubtful. we controlled our Geiger Counter already a few Times
in our PTA-Group!
(ca. 15 different Geiger Counter)

From the cheap ones (under 1.000 USD) the Radex works very well
and i have more than one Geiger Counter
but my other one (Dp-66M)
is tooooooo big and toooooo heavy for my Bicycle
so i use mostly the Radex 1706!
G.Y.!B.E.
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It was a beautiful day today. I watered my prized asagao flowers and took a nice long walk along the Tama river. I will soon log off and enjoy hot, radiation-free sex with my slim, lovely young wife. Then we will then go out to a fantastic Izakaya meal, which will be followed by more hot sex and then a deep, natural sleep.

Haters and doubters will still be punching their keyboards in frustration.

Life is good in Japan
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drevil cruise
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It was a beautiful day today. I watered my prized asagao flowers and took a nice long walk along the Tama river. I will soon log off and enjoy hot, radiation-free sex with my slim, lovely young wife. Then we will then go out to a fantastic Izakaya meal, which will be followed by more hot sex and then a deep, natural sleep.

Haters and doubters will still be punching their keyboards in frustration.

Life is good in Japan
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So.. you're a fag..?
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The first 2. are exactly on the same Spot, we can see decreasing Levels (in 18 Months) of Surface Radiation!

@ Waterbug, you are Homophobic?
Than Fuck Off, you are not PC.!

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Thread: Just Just In* Head of internal medicine at Japan hospital ‘astonished’ by Fukushima thyroid exams —
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Several studies bear out his views. A fortnight after the disaster, the authorities screened the thyroids of 1,149 children exposed to radiation and found that the maximum equivalent thyroid dose was 35 millisieverts (mSv). This is much less than at Chernobyl. Researchers from Japan’s HirosakiUniversity followed up the study a few weeks later. Their findings, published recently, showed iodine-131 active in the thyroids of 46 out of 62 evacuees. The average dose was about 3.5mSv in adults and the equivalent of 4.2mSv in children—which is better than 100 times less than the average for Chernobyl evacuees, 490mSv.

According to a draft report of the Fukushima Health Management Survey Group, which is canvassing the prefecture’s 2m residents on their health problems, ultrasound examinations of 38,114 children in Fukushima have so far revealed no evidence of thyroid problems. However, because thyroid cancer takes time to appear, the survey will continue for three years.

Dr Yamashita says a questionnaire answered by 15,000 villagers (of the 30,000 who were evacuated from near the nuclear power plant) showed that in the four months after the disaster, almost all had an accumulated exposure of less than 10mSv.

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

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OP you can show videos and type out post and threads till your computer explodes....
none of this will ever mitigate that there is a nuclear power plant with multiple cores in some state of melt down...even TEPCO has said this.
the buildings housing the reactors and cooling pools are severely damaged.
and these building are falling apart.
this whole mess is open to the air...and flooding the contaminated water into our oceans!
there has been no containing any of this, except containment of truth and info.
there is no cap to be put in place...there is no cement cover put on this!


this is just a festering wound on our planet!

look at how fast Russia cap the event area and still we can look back there to see a fraction of how bad that was. so many years have past and look how bad it is there today.
so until the leaders of the planet decide to do something about this....it will not just get better ATOM, sorry nukes do not work that way!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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OP you can show videos and type out post and threads till your computer explodes....
none of this will ever mitigate that there is a nuclear power plant with multiple cores in some state of melt down...even TEPCO has said this.
the buildings housing the reactors and cooling pools are severely damaged.
and these building are falling apart.
this whole mess is open to the air...and flooding the contaminated water into our oceans!
there has been no containing any of this, except containment of truth and info.
there is no cap to be put in place...there is no cement cover put on this!


this is just a festering wound on our planet!

look at how fast Russia cap the event area and still we can look back there to see a fraction of how bad that was. so many years have past and look how bad it is there today.
so until the leaders of the planet decide to do something about this....it will not just get better ATOM, sorry nukes do not work that way!
 Quoting: psyoptics


I think there is no one here on Glp who denied a Melt-Down

except a few People who believe in B. Fulford, etc.!

Fukushima is not Chernobyl and i am happy
that we do not sacrifice the Life of our People
to do something stupid like we saw in Russia!

You have no Idea what this Sarcophagus really is,
do you know that there are Holes inside big enough
for 40 Tones Trucks, that there are Birds nesting insight,
even Rainfall?

As long as the Stuff (the molten Fuel)
is insight the Containment as long i think
we had a lot of Luck!
G.Y.!B.E.
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In Daiichi we saw a more or less controlled Melt-Down
and there was not a huge Release of the heavy and deadly
Isotopes, even in the Hot Zone we cant find "much" of
Plutonium, Strontium or other ones!
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Oh come on this is the freaking funniest this you have ever typed ATOM
"controlled Melt-Down"

WTF controlled Melt-Down?
controlled Melt-Down.
controlled Melt-Down!
if it is a controlled MELTDOWN stop it please!


meltdown as in nuclear meltdown:
Nuclear meltdown is an informal term for a severe nuclear reactor accident that results in core damage from overheating

Once the fuel elements of a reactor begin to melt, the primary containment has been breached, and the nuclear fuel (such as uranium, plutonium, or thorium) and fission products (such as cesium-137, krypton-88, or iodine-131) within the fuel elements can leach out into the coolant. Subsequent failures can permit these radioisotopes to breach further layers of containment

radioactive materials with long half-lives could breach all containment and escape (or be released) into the environment, resulting in radioactive contamination and fallout, and leading to radiation poisoning of people and animals nearby. The amount of radioactivity released into the environment due to a core melt is measured in becquerels or curies.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


where does it get it a controlled meltdown?


but the description sure sounds like what is going on in japan!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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In Daiichi we saw a more or less controlled Melt-Down
and there was not a huge Release of the heavy and deadly
Isotopes, even in the Hot Zone we cant find "much" of
Plutonium, Strontium or other ones!
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Oh come on this is the freaking funniest this you have ever typed ATOM
"controlled Melt-Down"

WTF controlled Melt-Down?
controlled Melt-Down.
controlled Melt-Down!
if it is a controlled MELTDOWN stop it please!


meltdown as in nuclear meltdown:
Nuclear meltdown is an informal term for a severe nuclear reactor accident that results in core damage from overheating

Once the fuel elements of a reactor begin to melt, the primary containment has been breached, and the nuclear fuel (such as uranium, plutonium, or thorium) and fission products (such as cesium-137, krypton-88, or iodine-131) within the fuel elements can leach out into the coolant. Subsequent failures can permit these radioisotopes to breach further layers of containment

radioactive materials with long half-lives could breach all containment and escape (or be released) into the environment, resulting in radioactive contamination and fallout, and leading to radiation poisoning of people and animals nearby. The amount of radioactivity released into the environment due to a core melt is measured in becquerels or curies.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


where does it get it a controlled meltdown?


but the description sure sounds like what is going on in japan!
 Quoting: psyoptics


This Opinion is related to the use of the Emergency Valves
(the big Smokestack like you can see in the Cam)

The release of Pressure happened in a controlled mode
and not in a violent Explosion!
G.Y.!B.E.
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so calling what is going as "controlled Meltdown" is a PR stunt.

lipstick on a pig!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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so calling what is going as "controlled Meltdown" is a PR stunt.


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I think that i wrote this:
"In Daiichi we saw a more or less controlled Melt-Down"!

Do i?

Yes, i done it!
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so calling what is going as "controlled Meltdown" is a PR stunt.

lipstick on a pig!
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Controlled.. my ass..


...


...umm thorium is melt down proof since the fuel is already molten.
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unfortunately that is not true, thorium reactors are not meltdown-proof.
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the Mark 1 is a terrifying design but the simple fact is that there are no meltdown-proof reactors. Don't let their propaganda agents try to pull the wool over your eyes. They are not safe.
All this is interesting - however the article about GE reactor was in the early days of the Fukushima reactor incident. The described failure mechanism was "The impact loads the containment would receive by this very rapid release of energy could tear the containment apart and create an uncontrolled release."
1. Please provide evidence that the confinement was torn apart. This would imply that the vessels can't hold pressure - and all the articles from May 11, 2011 are about overpressure in the reactors and venting. Venting by definition is a controlled release.






 Quoting: Poriwoggu

There seems to be some confusion as to how the containment cap bolts could have stretched allowing the containment cap to lift and allow gases to escape.
The primary containment vessel is supposed to vent high pressure into the wetwell[torus]. The torus operates at a negative pressure to the vessel and with a checkvalve. They are investigating whether the system failed or if venting was blocked.

Here are a couple of earlier reports concerning this issue...

from mar 2011.....

[link to www.nytimes.com]

[snip]

David Lochbaum, chief nuclear safety official of the Union of Concerned Scientists, has another possible explanation. As steam and hydrogen built up within the primary containment shell, high pressure may have forced an opening between the primary containment shell, called the drywell, and the metal cap that is bolted onto the shell. A pressure test decades ago at the Brunswick Nuclear Plant in North Carolina demonstrated that such a high-pressure leak could occur in Mark I reactors built at the Fukushima plant, Lochbaum said.

"This tragedy will be closely examined for its causes, what happened and why," Lochbaum said. "That scrutiny must determine how hydrogen got into the reactor buildings to cause the catastrophic explosions. The drywell head pathway may be that answer. We need to stress that we're not putting this forward as the only answer for this question, but it's the most plausible explanation that we've heard to date."

and


from sept 2011.....


[link to www.simplyinfo.org]
[snip]

Mark 1 containments were not specifically designed to handle these situations:
Reactor Vessel Rupture
Steam Generator Rupture
Large break (LOCA) Loss Of Coolant Accidents

These kinds of accidents produce higher containment pressure and more fission products. High heat caused by these kinds of accidents can also lead to failing containment by way of cracks or ruptures.

Statistics for Peach Bottom are likely similar to units at Fukushima as they have similar designs.
Peach Bottom BWR Mark 1 Peak Design Basis Accident Pressure PSIG 49.1 (KPA 339)
Peach bottom design: 56psig, ultimate failure pressure 148 psig

Containment Cap:

The yellow containment cap bolt style used at Peach Bottom nuclear plant is the style used at Fukushima and is prone to bolt elongation (stretching) and flange separation (opening) under high temperatures. Accidents where high containment (drywell) temperatures occur are more likely to have the containment cap bolts stretch.

The silicon seal of the containment cap can also fail, it degrades significantly at temperatures over about 600 K (620 ‘F). These two flaws can create an outlet for containment in situations where the pressure and temperatures are both high.

**This is certainly a potential scenario as part of the unit 3 explosion. Considerable steam and debris was ejected high in the air but the containment cap or parts of it have not been found in the debris.





This is not a new revelation...

waterbug
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2.7.12
U.S. nuclear plants similar to Fukushima spark concerns
[link to www.cnn.com]

[snip]

The structure was designed so steam that builds up in an overheating reactor can be diverted into a doughnut-shaped water tank known as the suppression pool, or torus, where it condenses back to water to reduce pressure inside the reactor containment building. That allows utilities to build a much smaller containment structure -- as little as one-sixth the size of those used at some U.S. plants.

Stephen Hanauer, a former top safety official at what was then the Atomic Energy Commission, warned in 1971 that in an accident in which the core slowly loses coolant and overheats, the Mark I containment "would overpressurize. That could lose the torus water source, hence ECCS [emergency core cooling system] as well as leak out fission products." [link to i2.cdn.turner.com]

Arnie Gundersen, a former nuclear engineer and a leading critic of the Vermont Yankee plant, says the Japanese accident shows the Mark I containment system can't prevent a release of radioactivity in a meltdown.

In an October hearing before the NRC's Petition Review Board, he said the vents were a "Band-Aid fix" for the design that failed "not once, not twice, but three times" at Fukushima Daiichi.
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so calling what is going as "controlled Meltdown" is a PR stunt.


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I think that i wrote this:
"In Daiichi we saw a more or less controlled Melt-Down"!

Do i?

Yes, i done it!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom

no not just you. being used all over the net now!

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*Asahi* Japan Physicist: Several millions will need to be evacuated from around Fukushima plant if gov’t used same scale as after Chernobyl — Japan’s handling of disaster “far worse” than Soviet Union

Long before the disastrous nuclear accidents at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, physicist Yuko Fujita [former Keio University associate professor] warned that doomsday was coming.
[...]

“My effort to prevent a Chernobyl-level disaster in Japan ended in failure, but Japan’s handling of the accident is far worse than the Soviet Union’s reaction to Chernobyl,” he said.

[...]

he conducted field research in Russia in the early 1990s

[...]

The Soviet Union evicted all residents from highly contaminated areas within a 300-kilometer radius, while providing them with housing, employment and welfare measures, Fujita said.

“At the time, I thought it was outrageous,” Fujita said. “But it is far more conscionable than what this country is doing–deceiving people into staying, taking advantage of their attachment to their homeland.”

If Japan takes evacuation measures equivalent in scale to that following the Chernobyl disaster, it will need to relocate several millions of people in this densely populated country, Fujita said.

“It probably means that this country will go bankrupt,” Fujita said.

[...]

[link to ajw.asahi.com]

[link to enenews.com]
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@ USA, above!

So?

There is nothing about Tokyo
and People like you and him make a big
mistake to compare both Accidents
as well as both Evacuations!

Tokyo is at the same Distance from the Accident
like Kiev from Chernobyl, Kiev was not evacuated!
G.Y.!B.E.
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Keep spreading the good word.

We've had the technology to clean up such catastrophes since the 50's, so of course levels are going down. :)

Until I see a mass amount of people getting sick, I am not one to trust numbers from manipulated monitoring stations. Fear mongering is all it is.

Fear is the only mechanism of control that TPTB have left.

PERIOD.


Much rather trust amateurs who actually care.

However, do not be so quick to dismiss Ben Fulford outright. Fulford has never said that levels were not decreasing, only that the quake was a planned attack by using a nuclear device embedded into the sea floor at the fault line.

Proof: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

As you can plainly see, natural quakes do not allow the plates to retain the energy for that long. For a year, that fault line didn't calm down.

The tectonic plate system is meant to spread out energy like a heatsink extracts heat from a hot surface.
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@ .....928 USA,

which Technology?
Please tell me because i see none,
only the hard way via cleaning
every single Stone!

B.Fulford is full of shite like many other
People, he know nothing about Earthquakes
and about the Rest!
G.Y.!B.E.
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and;



Both are from Yamaguchi, this is at the western end
of Honshu, between Kyushu and Shikoku.

This is on my Wifes Island which is also close to
Iwakuni Air Base and the exploded Petroleum Plant,
some may remember, some not!

It is ca. 1.100 Kilometer from Fukudaiichi!

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another stupid Fukushima thread, those in japan saying its ok, those outside of japan saying all hell has broken loose.

GLP, the least productive website in the net.
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This just in! Happy Thoughts are on the rise in Japan!
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japan seems to be doing just fine from where i'm sitting.
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Keep spreading the good word.

We've had the technology to clean up such catastrophes since the 50's, so of course levels are going down. :)

Until I see a mass amount of people getting sick, I am not one to trust numbers from manipulated monitoring stations. Fear mongering is all it is.

Fear is the only mechanism of control that TPTB have left.

PERIOD.


Much rather trust amateurs who actually care.

However, do not be so quick to dismiss Ben Fulford outright. Fulford has never said that levels were not decreasing, only that the quake was a planned attack by using a nuclear device embedded into the sea floor at the fault line.

Proof: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

As you can plainly see, natural quakes do not allow the plates to retain the energy for that long. For a year, that fault line didn't calm down.

The tectonic plate system is meant to spread out energy like a heatsink extracts heat from a hot surface.
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Dumbass. Chernobyl is forever contaminated, just like japan.

Op you have been shilling way too long, you actually appear desperate n your post.

No intelligent american would eger be led to believe contamination levels of long half life radiation, would decrease before their appropriate half lives expiration dates. That is because it is an impossibility that the situation would occur...

If there is smaller levels it is likely that it is because the contamination is not fixed and is simply being re distributed. Or even worse consumed. Also your conersation with yourself on the first page of the thread was hilarious...

So please take the lead shields off your dosomiter and go to the hospital to get your urine and thyroid checked, as this is an important task should you seek to survive the incident.whatever

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