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Question about Moon's orbit.

 
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Question about Moon's orbit.
A few days ago my kids and I were thrilled to see the moon dramatically peek over the mountain viewable from our front door. It was a spectacular sight and the young 'uns were talking about it all the next day.

The next evening it rose in a different position and the kids were asking why.

Tonight it rose at a point to the extreme left of were it did on Friday.

Am I correct in assuming the moon does not have a fixed orbit and it drifts quite a bit, or is all this talk of a polar tilt becoming more pronounced?

At this rate, by tuesday it will rise at a point that will take it completely away from the mountain we live adjacent from.

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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
Don't believe me, plot it yourself from tonight through til Tuesday and tell me what you see.

Last Edited by cochise123 on 08/06/2012 02:00 AM
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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
I really dont have any answers but I can Add this.

For a fact since the Full Moon it has backed off in distance quite a bit.

I was shooting images of the moon for the last week.
the Full moon filled my frame up nearly 100% I couldnt get the entire thing in my frame,

Tonight just now it filled up 90% of my frame top to bottom so I was quite happy to get a full shot.

So for sure it moves somewhat.
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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
Here is 15 minutes



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Here is 15 minutes



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15 minutes ago...I meant to type
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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
I am 100% with you. It set behind the mountains to the west at 2:30 am.

Currently it is on the far EAST side of the sky and shows no sign of making it all the way across the sky in 3 hours. Very strange.

And it is larger tonight than normal, still very very bright.

Doesn't make sense, how can its position in the sky change so dramaticaly in a weeks time? ( more like 3 days ) .

I'm with you OP. very strange. KEEP POSTING!

Every day, the truth won't come out by the media, we need to communicate with each other for our own sake.

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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
The Moon rises and sets about 50 later each day as it progresses through its phases. It also goes from the Northern part of its orbit to the Southern and back again in a month's time. It's orbit is inclined 5 degrees but the Earth's tilt of 23 degrees also comes into play so the effect is more like 28 degrees. The phase that is furthest north changes during the year. IIRC the new Moon is furthest north in the Winter and the full Moon is furthest north in the summer. It's orbit is fixed which is why ALL of these changes are predictable.
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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
I never noticed this before either. The mooon was so bright, so close a couple of days ago. The next night it moved further away from where we could see it. Freaky.
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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
A few days ago my kids and I were thrilled to see the moon dramatically peek over the mountain viewable from our front door. It was a spectacular sight and the young 'uns were talking about it all the next day.

The next evening it rose in a different position and the kids were asking why.

Tonight it rose at a point to the extreme left of were it did on Friday.

Am I correct in assuming the moon does not have a fixed orbit and it drifts quite a bit, or is all this talk of a polar tilt becoming more pronounced?

At this rate, by tuesday it will rise at a point that will take it completely away from the mountain we live adjacent from.

Wierd.
 Quoting: cochise123


No...

it's movement is very precise.

Why do you think it has eclipses with split moment timing that can be predicted thousands of years in advance?

Last Edited by G. House on 08/06/2012 08:06 AM
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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
A few days ago my kids and I were thrilled to see the moon dramatically peek over the mountain viewable from our front door. It was a spectacular sight and the young 'uns were talking about it all the next day.

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 Quoting: cochise123


Please download "Stellarium" [link to www.stellarium.org] . It's a nice real time planetarium program.

You can adjust it to your location and play around with dates and times to simulate past and future events.

I think it's quite educational for your kids.

Some screenshots: [link to www.stellarium.org]


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Last Edited by Hydra on 08/06/2012 08:19 AM
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
There is a reason that you're paying more attention to the moon recently OP.

It has to do with becoming more aware of our 'surroundings'.

There is more to it than meets the eye, let's just say.
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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
A few days ago my kids and I were thrilled to see the moon dramatically peek over the mountain viewable from our front door. It was a spectacular sight and the young 'uns were talking about it all the next day.

The next evening it rose in a different position and the kids were asking why.

Tonight it rose at a point to the extreme left of were it did on Friday.

Am I correct in assuming the moon does not have a fixed orbit and it drifts quite a bit, or is all this talk of a polar tilt becoming more pronounced?

At this rate, by tuesday it will rise at a point that will take it completely away from the mountain we live adjacent from.

Wierd.
 Quoting: cochise123


Correct - sort of. The moon has a fixed orbit. However, its orbit is inclined from the ecliptic by 5.1 degrees. Combine that with Earth's axial tilt of roughly 23 degrees and you have 28 degrees. The moon also orbits the Earth approximately every 27 days. Because of the combined tilts, within that orbital cycle, the moon will be in a slightly different position each time it rises. It's just like the Sun, only it happens within a month instead of a year.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 08/06/2012 08:59 AM
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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
Every day, the truth won't come out by the media, we need to communicate with each other for our own sake.
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What truth are you referring to? The truth that there's nothing wrong with the moon and you simply never noticed something that's been happening since the dawn of time?

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 08/06/2012 09:01 AM
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Re: Question about Moon's orbit.
A few days ago my kids and I were thrilled to see the moon dramatically peek over the mountain viewable from our front door. It was a spectacular sight and the young 'uns were talking about it all the next day.

The next evening it rose in a different position and the kids were asking why.

Tonight it rose at a point to the extreme left of were it did on Friday.

Am I correct in assuming the moon does not have a fixed orbit and it drifts quite a bit, or is all this talk of a polar tilt becoming more pronounced?

At this rate, by tuesday it will rise at a point that will take it completely away from the mountain we live adjacent from.

Wierd.
 Quoting: cochise123



That is the normal motion of the Moon. Here are some screenshots from Stellarium that show how the Moon rises in a different place each day...moving a little more than 5 degrees each day.


Moonrise on Friday 3, 2012
[link to i439.photobucket.com]

Moonrise on Saturday 4, 2012
[link to i439.photobucket.com]

Moonrise on Monday 5, 2012
[link to i439.photobucket.com]

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