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President Obama’s spokesman blamed Congress for the lack of stronger gun control legislation and promised that the Justice Department would improve background checks to enhance security.

The president’s approach is that we should work with Congress when possible and administratively when allowed,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters when asked about strengthening gun control laws — laws that must respect Second Amendment rights, he said.

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In the meantime, Carney said, the Justice Department will “enhance security by making it harder for those who should not have these weapons to obtain them” through improved background checks.


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Okay so what REALLY constitutes "improved background checks"? I suspect it will be "set all default responses to NO!!"
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This is the same "Department of Justice" that illegally transferred firearms to Mexican drug gangs, which were later used to commit a couple hundred murders, including the murder of a US law enforcement agent.
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This is the same "Department of Justice" that illegally transferred firearms to Mexican drug gangs, which were later used to commit a couple hundred murders, including the murder of a US law enforcement agent.
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Glad someone else noticed the irony that I didn't want to point out lol Aren't background checks a state issue?
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The background checks were already pretty thorough. I bet now the number of false "prohibited buyer" will skyrocket. Thus thousands more innocent gunbuyers will have to fight through red tape to get cleared.
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The background checks were already pretty thorough. I bet now the number of false "prohibited buyer" will skyrocket. Thus thousands more innocent gunbuyers will have to fight through red tape to get cleared.
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This is the same "Department of Justice" that illegally transferred firearms to Mexican drug gangs, which were later used to commit a couple hundred murders, including the murder of a US law enforcement agent.
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Glad someone else noticed the irony that I didn't want to point out lol Aren't background checks a state issue?
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The NICS is a national system that checks available records on persons who may be disqualified from receiving firearms. The FBI developed the system through a cooperative effort with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and local and state law enforcement agencies.

[link to www.fbi.gov]

So it looks like the Department of Justice will now be involved, I wonder if they will be able to make the final determination or what their role will be.
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The background checks were already pretty thorough. I bet now the number of false "prohibited buyer" will skyrocket. Thus thousands more innocent gunbuyers will have to fight through red tape to get cleared.
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It may be they want so much red tape and hassle that most people will not even go to the trouble of obtaining it legally? If at all.
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When guns are outlawed, people will just make their own.

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LOL if you are in Texas just buy from a private party.. I do not know the laws for private party gun purchases in other states...
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If you ever wanted an AR-15 you better go out and get it!
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The background checks were already pretty thorough. I bet now the number of false "prohibited buyer" will skyrocket. Thus thousands more innocent gunbuyers will have to fight through red tape to get cleared.
 Quoting: Erectus


It may be they want so much red tape and hassle that most people will not even go to the trouble of obtaining it legally? If at all.
 Quoting: Laura Bow



I've been thinking since all this government shitting on the 2nd amendment ,why are'nt people who want to own guns (and already have legal guns) just go out find blackmarket guns, buy some, and turn in the legal ones when 'they' come knocking? At least the law abiding gun owning citizens won't be left defenceless...Ya know as in - what the govt. don't know ya got-they don't know.

After seeing that Aussie vid yesterday about their crime rate raising since banning guns there, if I were a gun owner I wouldn't be left defenceless to the criminals who have illegal guns.
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extra bump for late comers.
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LOL if you are in Texas just buy from a private party.. I do not know the laws for private party gun purchases in other states...
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Are you allowed to purchase without a permit in Texas? Like I said, it really sounds like a states issue but they're making it into a federal one now.
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This is the same "Department of Justice" that illegally transferred firearms to Mexican drug gangs, which were later used to commit a couple hundred murders, including the murder of a US law enforcement agent.
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Four words for all of you: "GUN SHOW" and "PRIVATE SALE"

Most states allow for legal unpapered firearms transactions via a private sale. Ask if they are a private seller; if so, game on.

No paperwork is needed for long guns in most states, and in some handguns can be purchased privately. Check your state laws.

Almost all the people I know who have guns have two collections; a small one that they filled out ATF yellow forms and a larger one that was purchased legally and privately.
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This is the same "Department of Justice" that illegally transferred firearms to Mexican drug gangs, which were later used to commit a couple hundred murders, including the murder of a US law enforcement agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21379686


Four words for all of you: "GUN SHOW" and "PRIVATE SALE"

Most states allow for legal unpapered firearms transactions via a private sale. Ask if they are a private seller; if so, game on.

No paperwork is needed for long guns in most states, and in some handguns can be purchased privately. Check your state laws.

Almost all the people I know who have guns have two collections; a small one that they filled out ATF yellow forms and a larger one that was purchased legally and privately.
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If true, this is excellent information...I'll have to mention this to my husband.
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Too late. You can now print your own guns from 3D printers, so banning guns isn't going to do JACK FUCKING SHIT
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Too late. You can now print your own guns from 3D printers, so banning guns isn't going to do JACK FUCKING SHIT
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Too bad we can't print a new President. I'd vote for Geo. Washington with some Jefferson mixed in.
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This is the same "Department of Justice" that illegally transferred firearms to Mexican drug gangs, which were later used to commit a couple hundred murders, including the murder of a US law enforcement agent.
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The felons in the "justice" department need to make sure that law-abiding citizens have as rough a time as possible.
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President Obama’s spokesman blamed Congress for the lack of stronger gun control legislation and promised that the Justice Department would improve background checks to enhance security.

The president’s approach is that we should work with Congress when possible and administratively when allowed,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters when asked about strengthening gun control laws — laws that must respect Second Amendment rights, he said.

...


In the meantime, Carney said, the Justice Department will “enhance security by making it harder for those who should not have these weapons to obtain them” through improved background checks.


More at [link to washingtonexaminer.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Oh the irony.


Those bastards have killed more people with guns than almost all of American citizens have combined. Yet they are going to say who and who cannot get a gun?

Holy shit.

Let me guess.... if you are white, ex military, have Tatoos, and are a tea party person, you are fucked?

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fkn dbl post

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This is the same "Department of Justice" that illegally transferred firearms to Mexican drug gangs, which were later used to commit a couple hundred murders, including the murder of a US law enforcement agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21379686


The felons in the "justice" department need to make sure that law-abiding citizens have as rough a time as possible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21023547


Yep... this is what I am saying. Wake the fuck up folks.

They want to take our weapons away, but they are ARMING the DRUG CARTELS right on the other side of the fence.

WAKE UP


The main stream media needs to start talking about Fast and Furious again... but of course they wont.
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The background checks were already pretty thorough. I bet now the number of false "prohibited buyer" will skyrocket. Thus thousands more innocent gunbuyers will have to fight through red tape to get cleared.
 Quoting: Erectus


It may be they want so much red tape and hassle that most people will not even go to the trouble of obtaining it legally? If at all.
 Quoting: Laura Bow



I've been thinking since all this government shitting on the 2nd amendment ,why are'nt people who want to own guns (and already have legal guns) just go out find blackmarket guns, buy some, and turn in the legal ones when 'they' come knocking? At least the law abiding gun owning citizens won't be left defenceless...Ya know as in - what the govt. don't know ya got-they don't know.

After seeing that Aussie vid yesterday about their crime rate raising since banning guns there, if I were a gun owner I wouldn't be left defenceless to the criminals who have illegal guns.
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Anyone who gives up legally owned guns when they "come knocking" deserves their part in the following genocide and enslavement they will end up being a victim of.

Read this, and let it SOAK IN:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”


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Everybody should go out this week and buy some new firearms to help the GOV test the new and improved background checks. rockon
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The background checks were already pretty thorough. I bet now the number of false "prohibited buyer" will skyrocket. Thus thousands more innocent gunbuyers will have to fight through red tape to get cleared.
 Quoting: Erectus


It may be they want so much red tape and hassle that most people will not even go to the trouble of obtaining it legally? If at all.
 Quoting: Laura Bow



I've been thinking since all this government shitting on the 2nd amendment ,why are'nt people who want to own guns (and already have legal guns) just go out find blackmarket guns, buy some, and turn in the legal ones when 'they' come knocking? At least the law abiding gun owning citizens won't be left defenceless...Ya know as in - what the govt. don't know ya got-they don't know.

After seeing that Aussie vid yesterday about their crime rate raising since banning guns there, if I were a gun owner I wouldn't be left defenceless to the criminals who have illegal guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


Anyone who gives up legally owned guns when they "come knocking" deserves their part in the following genocide and enslavement they will end up being a victim of.

Read this, and let it SOAK IN:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”


Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn (Gulag Archipelago)
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ZOMG. better check under the bed for commies.
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Let me guess.... if you are white, ex military, have Tatoos, and are a tea party person, you are fucked?
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The background checks were already pretty thorough. I bet now the number of false "prohibited buyer" will skyrocket. Thus thousands more innocent gunbuyers will have to fight through red tape to get cleared.
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Exactly
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It may be they want so much red tape and hassle that most people will not even go to the trouble of obtaining it legally? If at all.
 Quoting: Laura Bow



I've been thinking since all this government shitting on the 2nd amendment ,why are'nt people who want to own guns (and already have legal guns) just go out find blackmarket guns, buy some, and turn in the legal ones when 'they' come knocking? At least the law abiding gun owning citizens won't be left defenceless...Ya know as in - what the govt. don't know ya got-they don't know.

After seeing that Aussie vid yesterday about their crime rate raising since banning guns there, if I were a gun owner I wouldn't be left defenceless to the criminals who have illegal guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


Anyone who gives up legally owned guns when they "come knocking" deserves their part in the following genocide and enslavement they will end up being a victim of.

Read this, and let it SOAK IN:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”


Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn (Gulag Archipelago)
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ZOMG. better check under the bed for commies.
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Ohhh gee whizzz.. Not you dipshit Aussies again.

Why don't you just drop dead, you mindless motherfucker. I am so sick of you maggots.
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Re: Enhanced background check. Is it auto approval if you indicate Mexican Drug Cartel or New Black Panther?
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Ohhh gee whizzz.. Not you dipshit Aussies again.

Why don't you just drop dead, you mindless motherfucker. I am so sick of you maggots.
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HEY! That's not nice. What are you insulting maggots for?

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