It's TOTALLY possible for NASA to transmit a file with FULL HD video of Mars from the red planet to their servers here on Earth

I don't think you understand how the data is being transmitted. Checksums are used to identify bad data. How do you cope with bad data? You re-send the bad frame of data. Now say you have a burst of data from Mars and end up with bad checksums... You have to transmit the offending frames IDs back to mars and have them resent, while this takes place in milliseconds in 'net-based protocols, it takes much, much longer when talking interplanetary transmissions. So, now say you get back the 'bad' frames an they have errors.... DIVX and interplanetary data transmission are very different things.

and when NEARLY EVERY PIECE is corrupted? what then? and 8-20 minute ping times? data rate drops like a rock with couple hundred ms ping times. Your P2P client would blacklist the ONE host that is sending data after 3 corrupted chunks.

32kbps sure, when mars is closest to earth (which it is NOT currently) for "couple" hours a day ONLY. And you still have that pesky error rate to deal with. and still not enough for "LIVE HD VIDEO"

Never said it was not possible to send video just not "LIVE HD VIDEO". They probally can and will send short video clips over next couple years, even if greyscale and 1 frame/sec. And as many posters said the 1-2 months is just too long to be worth it, besides it not like martian are try to talk to rover, and we are try to read their lips, cause someone forget to but microphone on rover (it probally has one...hmmm 32kbps is enough for most basic LIVE AUDIO STREAM, atleast 16 hours per day when mars is closer to earth)

also it is said to be cold on mars.. batteries work best when they are warm but generate less power when they are cold, compounding the power issue

You are confusing data transmission, network and transport layers. Again, p2p, FTP and others work based off of a whole different data link and transport layer.

[link to conspiracy2012.files.wordpress.com]

All the shills still believe mars is Red. This pdf shows that the photos are doctored and have had colour change.

but yet they will still believe the msm as they like being spoon fed.

in regards to downloads. one word "satellites" anyone that has used satellite phones or internet connection. Yes they have it in outback australia knows that a standard satellite connection can be 100 times faster than your standard connection.

They could relay it between satellites. Any shill that thinks it can't be done needs to look at things differently.

What they say and what they tell us are two different things

examples of tech that tooks years to reach the public

CD's used by the US military in the 1970's not given to the public until late 80's early 90's

Blackbird Stealth Aircraft built in the 1960's hidden from public for atleast 20years (imagine what they have now?)

GPS again used by the US military in early 90's during Desert storm, has only been popular for the last 5 years or so

WAKE UP!!! to all the people that say it can't be done. It's proganda and lies.

yes they have.. here's an example of a mars hubble photo: [link to www.nasa.gov]

2 minutes of 720p video can be compressed into 8 MB using the H.264 codec with data rate limited to 1024 kbps.

Last Edited by OpenHeartMonk on 08/07/2012 04:18 PM

yep obviously no-one here has used a cheap HD camcorder or go pro?

my edit.. H.264 should be data rate limited to 1024 kbps to compress 2 minutes of 720p data into 8 MB

i edit online video for a living and yes, i think a lot of peeps here have no idea what they're talking about =)

ERROR RATE ERROR RATE ERROR RATE ERROR RATE ERROR RATE ERROR RATE ERROR RATE ERROR RATE

you CANNOT use MPEG4/DIVX/JPEG any of those or related protocols. Every packet is going to be corrupted during transmission with current RF radio transmission over millions of miles.

This is gonna take upgrades to space communication systems. Laser link between multiple satellites orbiting the SUN, and multiple satellite (satellite constellations) around each planet you want high speed low error rates from/to surface.

(high speed from orbit does NOT use signal from single Geosynchronous orbiting satellite)

Wow I didn't know GLP had so many ROCKET SCIENTIST in it's forums. I mean it's like everybody is so damn smart they could build their own "Curiousity" and send it to mars...


wait why don't you do that?

If you think for a second that the Team is going to waste nearly a full day downloading a few minutes of video.... you're wrong. The team needs to get data from all of their scientific experiments, need to tx/rx commands for navigation and so on...


I love all you little armchair astronauts... ur so cute

Video>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [link to mars.jpl.nasa.gov]

lol its bullshit guys. stop being so foolish.

And for the record, when someone ignores your post and insults you, thats a shill move.

They know if they insult your intelligence it will digress from the real issue at hand.

All it takes is 2 or 3 insults and a lash back for the reader to lose interest in the ACTUAL POST. Registers as spam. They do it on almost every free thinking post. And they are quick.

Within 4 minutes they will have a double post of what they want the general group of glpers to believe.

How did you people make it through grade school?

Did you really jump through every hoop and ask no questions? Look at none of your surroundings?

For the people this message is directed to, you are getting border line pathetic.

Can you not realize this is not a video game? This is your life and it is important? Not only to you but to myself, and others?

For the love of humanity don't be so dense.

FTP requires a handshake for each packet transmitted. At the current distance of Mars from Earth, that would take 28 minutes per packet.

And who made you the expert? You think they go to mars and don't LOOK AROUND? You honestly think they are concerned with data numbers more than they are concerned about VIEWING MARS. Go to the nasa website and watch the videos. That shit is utterly pathetic and they know it.

Use your fucking head sheep.


Sorry for my language but its embarrassing people might believe what you are saying.

Actually Curiosity doesn't run on solar cells but gets its power from a radioisotope thermoelectric generator, basically a bunch of plutonium that generates heat that is converted into electricity.

Your main point that power is extremely limited onboard the rover is still valid, however.

Route it to the space station than to earth?

Do a little research on the space station and you'll see that isn't difficult.

DERP DERP SHEEP IDIOTS.

Would still like someone to explain to me why they're so gung-ho to get a video of an unchanging landscape. Isn't a high-resolution panorama (which they're going to start on tomorrow, apparently) more useful?

The amount of memory available storage on board, determines the length of continuous real time video that can be captured & stored. It can then be transmitted at a non-real time rate based on the telemetry bandwidth. after reception it again can be played at the real time rate. Very simple. Plenty of error correction and image enhancements can be added to produce great videos.

Still about the same distance. Derp derp.

What would routing it through the space station accomplish? It's not as if it's significantly closer to Mars than one of NASA's ground stations.

not about distance, its location and capabilities of the space station


thats why its fucking up there.


DERP DERP like i said do some research on the space station.

And then feel stupid for believing NASA EVER.

They lie to us all day long and keep us in the dark, why do you fucking people believe what they have to say now?

Its shocking.

I wish I didn't get upset but We are handing over our lives to this shit. And everything is getting fucked and no body cares as long as the lies keep coming in life is good.

Counting Mars Express, there are three, the other two being Odyssey and MRO - MRO being the one that took the awesome photos of Curiosity on the parachute.

Exactly what magical property will allow it to communicate faster than light then?

jesus mut how stupid do you think I am?

Play dumb for everyone else but don't waste my time.

Do your own research, but you don't need to.

You either accept your stupid logic or are purposely humoring small ideas.

Either way, don't bother.

There's absolutely nothing the space station can do that can't be done better on the ground so far as communications is concerned. Kind of hard to install 230-foot antennas like the ones they have at Goldstone, Canberra, and Madrid in orbit, let alone all the supporting equipment.

Bs. I'm sure communication and sending instruction for the rover to perform would be more difficult operations.

Now I know you're a dumb ass shill or worse, mis informed and spreading lies. They don't use the same antennas in space as they do on ground to send radio/phone signals and data you asshat.

Go away

It's your claim, it's up to you to support it.

The claim is NASA's not mine. Get that real fucking straight.

The second claim is you supporting them blindly.

The third ( and only of which is my own ) claim is you spreading filth to the unknowing, knowingly .

All I want to do is get people thinking, as a spectator you can only watch for so long. And now with all this strange weather some of us have to rise up and help.

SO why don't YOU do your due diligence and get some facts, because your all knowing eye doesn't do anything but suck the long misleading cock of NASA

But go ahead you will probably miss this message as well and ask me some more stupid questions.

Again, sorry for being so blunt. But its time to stop watching.