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NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out

 
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NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
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The December 1st issue of Time Magazine carries a special section on "The Year in Medicine," which mentions the case of Hannah Poling, the young girl with autism who received compensation from the federal vaccine injury program. Like many news accounts back then, Time has called the case "rare," because it involved an underlying dysfunction of Hannah's mitochondria, the little powerhouses within each cell that produce energy.

The widespread misconception that Hannah's case was "unique," and without any bearing on other autism cases, was promulgated by opinion leaders such as CDC Director Julie Gerberding and the newly rich vaccine inventor Dr. Paul Offit, (who told Newsweek that his share of the royalties from the vaccine was "like winning the lottery.")

But on Wednesday, a new chart-review study was published showing that "mitochondrial autism" is not rare at all.

"These and prior data suggest a disturbance of mitochondrial energy production as an underlying pathophysiological mechanism in a subset of individuals with autism," wrote the authors of the study, "Mitochondrial Disease in Autism Spectrum Disorder Patients: A Cohort Analysis." [link to www.plosone.org]

In fact, the authors wrote that mitochondrial dysfunction "may be present in a substantial percentage of children with ASD." (They did not mention prevalence in adults with autism).

I first reported on this phenomenon back in March, when I interviewed one the of the study's authors. Back then, I wrote that mitochondrial dysfunction was detected in 7-to-30 percent of people with autism, and that genetic mutations that might confer such dysfunction could be as common as 1 in 50 people in the general population.

Now, I freely admit that I do not understand everything written in this new study. But there are a few things that I think are worth pointing out.

REGRESSIVE AUTISM IS REAL

I have long held that there are many different subsets of autism cases. One such group is made up of children who were developing normally, only to regress later - typically between one and two years of age. Nearly all of the children in my book regressed into autism - a process that often began almost immediately after receiving multiple vaccinations.

Perhaps that is why the very idea of regressive autism has been cause for derision among many scientists, who insist that the parents were simply too ignorant to "notice" autism symptoms in their children earlier on.

But among the 25 children in the chart review, 14 of them, or 56%, suffered from "regression of previously acquired skills." This is a rate that is significantly above the roughly "one third of autistic children" in general who are reported to have regressed, the authors said. So then, not only is regressive autism real, it seems to be almost twice as common in cases of "mitochondrial autism," (the authors; words, not mine).


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I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
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If a parent follows the CDCs immunization schedule, a child receives 115 vaccine antigens between birth & 2 years old.

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Re: NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
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Re: NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
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Does milk still contain vitamin D after its been pastureised
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Re: NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


I tend to agree. The kids that I know with autism are in homes where nutrition is definitely not a priority. They really need to start putting more money into autism research to clear this up.
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Re: NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
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Re: NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


I tend to agree. The kids that I know with autism are in homes where nutrition is definitely not a priority. They really need to start putting more money into autism research to clear this up.
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that would certainly be an interesting theory to follow. there must be an underlying genetic defect though. i know a woman that has 2 daughters, each daughter has an autistic child. so if there is a diet issue, it must trigger something in the genes. i'm sure the vaccines have some hand in this too.
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I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


I tend to agree. The kids that I know with autism are in homes where nutrition is definitely not a priority. They really need to start putting more money into autism research to clear this up.
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I would submit to you prenatal nutrition & health to be equally important in this equation. All the cases I know of have this as a common possible factor... I am on board with the theory the vaccine triggers the process... In 90% of cases there would be no significant danger but without more study, it would be hard to pinpoint the at risk population...
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Stories like this are a bit misleading. Tons of conjecture and supposition based on a "chart" review. The purpose of a chart review is to see if there is a need for a in-depth study. Hopefully this will lead to that.
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I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


They still add in vitamin d2. (Vitamin D3 is better.)

But one would have to drink 2 gallons a day to get the right amount of vitamin D. There's only enough vitamin D in milk to stop kids from getting rickets.

Does milk still contain vitamin D after its been pastureised
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I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


I tend to agree. The kids that I know with autism are in homes where nutrition is definitely not a priority. They really need to start putting more money into autism research to clear this up.
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that would certainly be an interesting theory to follow. there must be an underlying genetic defect though. i know a woman that has 2 daughters, each daughter has an autistic child. so if there is a diet issue, it must trigger something in the genes. i'm sure the vaccines have some hand in this too.
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It's def. hereditary. My father, me, my 3 children all have Asperger (within Autism Spectrum Disorders). I remember so well after the triple vaccine something happend. If I only knew then what I know now. I also remember my dad mentioning "you stopped talking at age 2". There is a def. sensitivity and reaction to vaccines.
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If a parent follows the CDCs immunization schedule, a child receives 115 vaccine antigens between birth & 2 years old.

[link to vaxtruth.org]
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take a look at what they recommand us to vaccinate our domestic animals as well. pretty close to 115 to.
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If a parent follows the CDCs immunization schedule, a child receives 115 vaccine antigens between birth & 2 years old.

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That is just so insane. BTW, I was at a pediatrician's office with my daughter and she flat out asked him if he had his own kids vaccinated. His (amazingly honest answer) was no.
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If a parent follows the CDCs immunization schedule, a child receives 115 vaccine antigens between birth & 2 years old.

[link to vaxtruth.org]
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That is just so insane. BTW, I was at a pediatrician's office with my daughter and she flat out asked him if he had his own kids vaccinated. His (amazingly honest answer) was no.
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With my daughter and grandson I should say.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Relevant... CDC Chief _admits_ that vaccines can trigger autism.

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I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


I have known some very tanned autistic children in Peru. My bet is on the vaccines. Autism is a lot more prevalent among the elite, the ones that have the money to pay for an american trained pediatrician.
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I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
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Very tragic. How old was the kid when he got the nasal flu vaccine?
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Very nice, Thanks for this. I have been waiting for a study like this to surface actually. I have a child that is on the spectrum. He was a normal child -that I thought- until the age of three. At that age he started regressing (basically forgetting the things he already had acquired throughout development.) I was very confused, and was difficult to explain even to doctors that my child previously could do things, and suddenly lost the ability to do. I had received several rhogam shots throughout pregnancy (usually get one during and after childbirth) but for some reason my child had been given an extra a few hours after birth. Imagine my face looking at the hospital paperwork explaining that my son had been giving twice the usual amount to sustain a normal safe pregnancy for those of us with the RH negative factor. I have since then never given up that this hospital incident along with the -normal- immunizations have contribited to my child being diagnosed with autism..And more so since it was regressive autism.
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[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

The December 1st issue of Time Magazine carries a special section on "The Year in Medicine," which mentions the case of Hannah Poling, the young girl with autism who received compensation from the federal vaccine injury program. Like many news accounts back then, Time has called the case "rare," because it involved an underlying dysfunction of Hannah's mitochondria, the little powerhouses within each cell that produce energy.

The widespread misconception that Hannah's case was "unique," and without any bearing on other autism cases, was promulgated by opinion leaders such as CDC Director Julie Gerberding and the newly rich vaccine inventor Dr. Paul Offit, (who told Newsweek that his share of the royalties from the vaccine was "like winning the lottery.")

But on Wednesday, a new chart-review study was published showing that "mitochondrial autism" is not rare at all.

"These and prior data suggest a disturbance of mitochondrial energy production as an underlying pathophysiological mechanism in a subset of individuals with autism," wrote the authors of the study, "Mitochondrial Disease in Autism Spectrum Disorder Patients: A Cohort Analysis." [link to www.plosone.org]

In fact, the authors wrote that mitochondrial dysfunction "may be present in a substantial percentage of children with ASD." (They did not mention prevalence in adults with autism).

I first reported on this phenomenon back in March, when I interviewed one the of the study's authors. Back then, I wrote that mitochondrial dysfunction was detected in 7-to-30 percent of people with autism, and that genetic mutations that might confer such dysfunction could be as common as 1 in 50 people in the general population.

Now, I freely admit that I do not understand everything written in this new study. But there are a few things that I think are worth pointing out.

REGRESSIVE AUTISM IS REAL

I have long held that there are many different subsets of autism cases. One such group is made up of children who were developing normally, only to regress later - typically between one and two years of age. Nearly all of the children in my book regressed into autism - a process that often began almost immediately after receiving multiple vaccinations.

Perhaps that is why the very idea of regressive autism has been cause for derision among many scientists, who insist that the parents were simply too ignorant to "notice" autism symptoms in their children earlier on.

But among the 25 children in the chart review, 14 of them, or 56%, suffered from "regression of previously acquired skills." This is a rate that is significantly above the roughly "one third of autistic children" in general who are reported to have regressed, the authors said. So then, not only is regressive autism real, it seems to be almost twice as common in cases of "mitochondrial autism," (the authors; words, not mine).


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of course its real, but its not a bad thing at all

call it nature's way of evolving if you will
No friends and yet no enemies
Absolutely free
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Now it begins, let it begin
Cleanup Time
Hey, cleanup time
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Well, well, well

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Mitochondria are intracellular parasitic bacteria that have evolved to form a symbiotic relationship with the host cells.

This is supported by the fact they also contain DNA outside of the cell nucleus. They have their own foreign DNA.

Dont believe me, look it up.
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Mitochondria are intracellular parasitic bacteria that have evolved to form a symbiotic relationship with the host cells.

This is supported by the fact they also contain DNA outside of the cell nucleus. They have their own foreign DNA.

Dont believe me, look it up.
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There are types of viruses called bacteriophages, which are viruses that infect bacteria specifically.

If you can find a bacteriophage that infects bacteria that are similar to mammalian mitochondria you could use this as a gene vector to transfer genes into human mitochondria without these genes showing up in a normal human DNA profile.
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Mitochondria are intracellular parasitic bacteria that have evolved to form a symbiotic relationship with the host cells.

This is supported by the fact they also contain DNA outside of the cell nucleus. They have their own foreign DNA.

Dont believe me, look it up.
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There are types of viruses called bacteriophages, which are viruses that infect bacteria specifically.

If you can find a bacteriophage that infects bacteria that are similar to mammalian mitochondria you could use this as a gene vector to transfer genes into human mitochondria without these genes showing up in a normal human DNA profile.
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Hypothetically speaking of course.
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Im just trying to use facts to make yall all more paranoid.

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Vaccines are a sham.
Outdated 300 yr old technology.
The modern vaccines are far more dangerous than the 100+ yr old ones.
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Re: NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
If a parent follows the CDCs immunization schedule, a child receives 115 vaccine antigens between birth & 2 years old.

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That is freakin retarded...whatever happened to just immunizing against the real badass diseases and not doing even THAT until they had at least had SOME kind of an immune system built up?...like at least a couple of years old?...that is ridiculous.
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Re: NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
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I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


I tend to agree. The kids that I know with autism are in homes where nutrition is definitely not a priority. They really need to start putting more money into autism research to clear this up.
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I would submit to you prenatal nutrition & health to be equally important in this equation. All the cases I know of have this as a common possible factor... I am on board with the theory the vaccine triggers the process... In 90% of cases there would be no significant danger but without more study, it would be hard to pinpoint the at risk population...
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What you said sounded like it came from me....I agree with you completely. My child is on the spectrum and is adopted. She was delivered early because she was "failing to thrive" in the womb. Birth mother's diet consisted of mostly of sugared cereal and soda with occasional microwavable food.

While she showed signs of being on the spectrum immediately, they were difficult to pinpoint until she was two months old and directly after a set of immunizations. I don't think the immunizations caused it, but triggered it to worsen.

Her symptoms at birth were that she never cried (figured out at three months she could not tolerate the noise of her own crying - especially that of other children) and she appeared to sleep continuously and had to be awakened to eat every feeding. If she was left to sleep and wake on her own she would sleep for eight hours minimum. We don't know how long she would actually sleep, because we could never let her continue to do so. In reality she was not sleeping, just withdrawing mentally, which appeared to be sleeping at such an early age. I noticed this right away but pediatricians kept saying I should be happy I had a good baby who like to sleep. She never cried to be fed or changed...ever.

These symptoms were there prior to her first immunization and verified by therapists who were specialists in autism. However, her symptoms magnified and new ones appeared within 24 hours of her first set of immunizations at two months.
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Re: NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
If a parent follows the CDCs immunization schedule, a child receives 115 vaccine antigens between birth & 2 years old.

[link to vaxtruth.org]
 Quoting: mopar28m


That is freakin retarded...whatever happened to just immunizing against the real badass diseases and not doing even THAT until they had at least had SOME kind of an immune system built up?...like at least a couple of years old?...that is ridiculous.
 Quoting: SHR


So true SHR. Now children are even immunized for chicken pox. Yet when we were children, everyone got chicken pox and it was expected.
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Re: NEW STUDY - "Mitochondrial Autism" is Real; Vaccine Triggers Cannot Be Ruled Out
I personally know of a brilliant kid who was brain damaged beyond repair by the nasal mist flu vaccine.
It's one of the most tragic and unfair situations I've ever witnessed.

Sad stuff...for a while they tried to say his brain damage was caused by a mitochondrial defect, completely apart from the vaccine.

Eventually it was proven to be caused by the vaccine which was administered incorrectly for his age/size, not to mention he had a low-grade fever at the time of vaccination.

I'm amazed at how parents willingly trot their kids into a Drs office and pay money to risk their child's life.
 Quoting: SwampWitch


I'm placing my bet on severe vitamin D deficiency as the root cause for autism...

Vaccines may be simply the trigger or make the existing symptoms (caused by severe vitamin D deficiency) worse.

Your body converts vitamin D into a very powerful steroid hormone called calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and regulator hormone.

The daily recommended for vitamin D is only 600 IU a day when we should be taking 1000 IU of vitamin D for every 25lbs of bodyweight to stay within optimal range. A cup of milk contains 100 IU of vitamin D if at all.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


I tend to agree. The kids that I know with autism are in homes where nutrition is definitely not a priority. They really need to start putting more money into autism research to clear this up.
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