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Nibiru Co ordinates for World Aug 8th

 
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Explain how there are thousand+ year old cylindrical maps/scrolls depicting layouts of our solar system and galaxy?
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They don't. Uranus, Neptune, etc were not discovered until the modern era.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


WTF are you talking about? Just because the Western 'civilized' world didn't acknowledge them until recently does not mean people throughout time didn't have a clue. There are numerous examples of archaeological findings which depict accurate layouts of the solar system, including the outer planets/stars. The most common example being the Sumerian Seal which I assume almost every GLP'er has seen.

I saw another case not too long ago where they discovered a tribe way up in some African mountains that had been unknown and essentially untouched having no contact with the outside world. What did they find? Ohh yea that's right, a collection of detailed seals/drawings/hieroglyphs profiling our solar system carbon dated (which I think is off anyways) back thousands of years...

You're right, there's NO WAY these 'neanderthals' would have gained the knowledge they did through 'natural progression'. So fit some pieces together to see how they would have acquired this knowledge then...

"When will you realize that there are people like me who actually do know what it is they're talking about? Probably never, which is sad."

You sound exactly how every other 'expert' out there would have sounded before trying to assure people the world was flat back in the day...

My point is not that you know nothing, it's that you think you have a firm understanding of space and time (and it is compared to your average moran), but the'reality' of it is you basically know nothing.

Kuddos for trying...
 Quoting: Harmonix


Oh the classic Summerian seal. You should probably research other sources. It does not depict the solar system.

We have a have firm understanding of space and time. The laws of physics are universal throughout the Universe.

Do we know everything? Of course not.

Do we no more now than we ever die? Yes.

You should watch this:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Oh the classic Summerian seal. You should probably research other sources. It does not depict the solar system.

That's just a basic example I used because everybody has seen it, and if it's not trying to depict our solar system then what is it trying to represent? And there ARE more examples, you just have to look. I'm not digging for you shills.

We have a have firm understanding of space and time. The laws of physics are universal throughout the Universe.

This is exactly what I'm talking about...How can you be so sure the laws of physics are universal throughout!? YOU CAN'T PROVE IT! Our textbooks are being re-written daily because everything we think we know is changing. The people 'teaching' you are realizing they don't know shit. It's an ongoing disinfo shit cycle! Once money and power are no longer the trusses of society, we will begin to see more truths revealed...

Do we know everything? Of course not.

Do we no more now than we ever did? Yes.

Are you sure about that? Did the people who lied to humanity about everything else including all the history propagated to you, tell you that we're currently the 'smartest' we've ever been...? So gullible, I swear you people have no imaginations... Tsk tsk

You should watch this:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Explain how there are thousand+ year old cylindrical maps/scrolls depicting layouts of our solar system and galaxy?
 Quoting: harmonix

They don't. Uranus, Neptune, etc were not discovered until the modern era.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


WTF are you talking about? Just because the Western 'civilized' world didn't acknowledge them until recently does not mean people throughout time didn't have a clue. There are numerous examples of archaeological findings which depict accurate layouts of the solar system, including the outer planets/stars. The most common example being the Sumerian Seal which I assume almost every GLP'er has seen.

I saw another case not too long ago where they discovered a tribe way up in some African mountains that had been unknown and essentially untouched having no contact with the outside world. What did they find? Ohh yea that's right, a collection of detailed seals/drawings/hieroglyphs profiling our solar system carbon dated (which I think is off anyways) back thousands of years...

You're right, there's NO WAY these 'neanderthals' would have gained the knowledge they did through 'natural progression'. So fit some pieces together to see how they would have acquired this knowledge then...

"When will you realize that there are people like me who actually do know what it is they're talking about? Probably never, which is sad."

You sound exactly how every other 'expert' out there would have sounded before trying to assure people the world was flat back in the day...

My point is not that you know nothing, it's that you think you have a firm understanding of space and time (and it is compared to your average moran), but the'reality' of it is you basically know nothing.

Kuddos for trying...
 Quoting: Harmonix


Oh the classic Summerian seal. You should probably research other sources. It does not depict the solar system.

We have a have firm understanding of space and time. The laws of physics are universal throughout the Universe.

Do we know everything? Of course not.

Do we no more now than we ever die? Yes.

You should watch this:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3555102



I will be speaking with Dr. Ricks about this startling information

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WTF are you talking about? Just because the Western 'civilized' world didn't acknowledge them until recently does not mean people throughout time didn't have a clue. There are numerous examples of archaeological findings which depict accurate layouts of the solar system, including the outer planets/stars. The most common example being the Sumerian Seal which I assume almost every GLP'er has seen.

I saw another case not too long ago where they discovered a tribe way up in some African mountains that had been unknown and essentially untouched having no contact with the outside world. What did they find? Ohh yea that's right, a collection of detailed seals/drawings/hieroglyphs profiling our solar system carbon dated (which I think is off anyways) back thousands of years...

You're right, there's NO WAY these 'neanderthals' would have gained the knowledge they did through 'natural progression'. So fit some pieces together to see how they would have acquired this knowledge then...

"When will you realize that there are people like me who actually do know what it is they're talking about? Probably never, which is sad."

You sound exactly how every other 'expert' out there would have sounded before trying to assure people the world was flat back in the day...

My point is not that you know nothing, it's that you think you have a firm understanding of space and time (and it is compared to your average moran), but the'reality' of it is you basically know nothing.

Kuddos for trying...
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If you were around back then, you'd probably be telling the Sumerians "you know nothing...you arrogant fools". LOL.

You're the fool.
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The warning you gave us, it surely was our last...

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They don't. Uranus, Neptune, etc were not discovered until the modern era.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


WTF are you talking about? Just because the Western 'civilized' world didn't acknowledge them until recently does not mean people throughout time didn't have a clue. There are numerous examples of archaeological findings which depict accurate layouts of the solar system, including the outer planets/stars. The most common example being the Sumerian Seal which I assume almost every GLP'er has seen.

I saw another case not too long ago where they discovered a tribe way up in some African mountains that had been unknown and essentially untouched having no contact with the outside world. What did they find? Ohh yea that's right, a collection of detailed seals/drawings/hieroglyphs profiling our solar system carbon dated (which I think is off anyways) back thousands of years...

You're right, there's NO WAY these 'neanderthals' would have gained the knowledge they did through 'natural progression'. So fit some pieces together to see how they would have acquired this knowledge then...

"When will you realize that there are people like me who actually do know what it is they're talking about? Probably never, which is sad."

You sound exactly how every other 'expert' out there would have sounded before trying to assure people the world was flat back in the day...

My point is not that you know nothing, it's that you think you have a firm understanding of space and time (and it is compared to your average moran), but the'reality' of it is you basically know nothing.

Kuddos for trying...
 Quoting: Harmonix


Oh the classic Summerian seal. You should probably research other sources. It does not depict the solar system.

We have a have firm understanding of space and time. The laws of physics are universal throughout the Universe.

Do we know everything? Of course not.

Do we no more now than we ever die? Yes.

You should watch this:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3555102



I will be speaking with Dr. Ricks about this startling information

 Quoting: dallasdog972


The greatest part about this is that I'm not even arguing about Nibiru. I'm just simply stating that Astromut and his butt buddies think they have a good idea about space/time, but they really don't. Reality will jump kick them along with everyone else in the side of the head soon enough. They'll be screaming 'miracle' when they try to wrap their formulas/orbital elements/nonsense around the changes ahead, DOOM or no DOOM...
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I just sent this video to my son and asked him to debunk it. He is an astrophysicist working at Harvard specializing in asteroid/kuiper belt objects and has access to world wide observatories. I will post his response.
 Quoting: Janine69


Here is my son's response
The man in thé video maintains that he is showing a planet orbiting a star nearby. We would expect to see the planet showing some kind of partial phase, not the perfectly full phase of his image.The later pictures are most certainly Venus, Jupiter, and the bright star Aldebaran along with somefainter background stars.These are currently very near each other in the early morning sky. Venus is visible in the daytime.I have taken pictures of It which look very much like his daytime photos.
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WTF are you talking about? Just because the Western 'civilized' world didn't acknowledge them until recently does not mean people throughout time didn't have a clue. There are numerous examples of archaeological findings which depict accurate layouts of the solar system, including the outer planets/stars. The most common example being the Sumerian Seal which I assume almost every GLP'er has seen.

I saw another case not too long ago where they discovered a tribe way up in some African mountains that had been unknown and essentially untouched having no contact with the outside world. What did they find? Ohh yea that's right, a collection of detailed seals/drawings/hieroglyphs profiling our solar system carbon dated (which I think is off anyways) back thousands of years...

You're right, there's NO WAY these 'neanderthals' would have gained the knowledge they did through 'natural progression'. So fit some pieces together to see how they would have acquired this knowledge then...

"When will you realize that there are people like me who actually do know what it is they're talking about? Probably never, which is sad."

You sound exactly how every other 'expert' out there would have sounded before trying to assure people the world was flat back in the day...

My point is not that you know nothing, it's that you think you have a firm understanding of space and time (and it is compared to your average moran), but the'reality' of it is you basically know nothing.

Kuddos for trying...
 Quoting: Harmonix


Oh the classic Summerian seal. You should probably research other sources. It does not depict the solar system.

We have a have firm understanding of space and time. The laws of physics are universal throughout the Universe.

Do we know everything? Of course not.

Do we no more now than we ever die? Yes.

You should watch this:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3555102



I will be speaking with Dr. Ricks about this startling information

 Quoting: dallasdog972


The greatest part about this is that I'm not even arguing about Nibiru. I'm just simply stating that Astromut and his butt buddies think they have a good idea about space/time, but they really don't. Reality will jump kick them along with everyone else in the side of the head soon enough. They'll be screaming 'miracle' when they try to wrap their formulas/orbital elements/nonsense around the changes ahead, DOOM or no DOOM...
 Quoting: Harmonix



I actually like Astromut, I believe he is being sincere (Yes, even if he comes off arrogant) and is speaking about a field of science with which he is familiar. It's not that I don't trust what Astromut is saying. HOWEVER, I do know that science does not explain everything, and we are not even masters of our planet, let along the galaxy. So on one hand I have Astromut--who says Nibiru is garbage--and on the other hand I have Dr. Ricks--who I've known for many years, trusted, who says Nibiru is real, and it's coming--so I'm making a choice to place my faith in the person I know rather than an internet stranger.
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Oh the classic Summerian seal. You should probably research other sources. It does not depict the solar system.

That's just a basic example I used because everybody has seen it, and if it's not trying to depict our solar system then what is it trying to represent? And there ARE more examples, you just have to look. I'm not digging for you shills.

We have a have firm understanding of space and time. The laws of physics are universal throughout the Universe.

This is exactly what I'm talking about...How can you be so sure the laws of physics are universal throughout!? YOU CAN'T PROVE IT! Our textbooks are being re-written daily because everything we think we know is changing. The people 'teaching' you are realizing they don't know shit. It's an ongoing disinfo shit cycle! Once money and power are no longer the trusses of society, we will begin to see more truths revealed...

Do we know everything? Of course not.

Do we no more now than we ever did? Yes.

Are you sure about that? Did the people who lied to humanity about everything else including all the history propagated to you, tell you that we're currently the 'smartest' we've ever been...? So gullible, I swear you people have no imaginations... Tsk tsk

You should watch this:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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 Quoting: Harmonix

How am I gullible?

We just landed Curiosity. That is proof enough that we know more now than we ever have.
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I just sent this video to my son and asked him to debunk it. He is an astrophysicist working at Harvard specializing in asteroid/kuiper belt objects and has access to world wide observatories. I will post his response.
 Quoting: Janine69


Here is my son's response
The man in thé video maintains that he is showing a planet orbiting a star nearby. We would expect to see the planet showing some kind of partial phase, not the perfectly full phase of his image.The later pictures are most certainly Venus, Jupiter, and the bright star Aldebaran along with somefainter background stars.These are currently very near each other in the early morning sky. Venus is visible in the daytime.I have taken pictures of It which look very much like his daytime photos.
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Thanks! This validates what Tbar and Astro said.
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Oh the classic Summerian seal. You should probably research other sources. It does not depict the solar system.

We have a have firm understanding of space and time. The laws of physics are universal throughout the Universe.

Do we know everything? Of course not.

Do we no more now than we ever die? Yes.

You should watch this:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3555102



I will be speaking with Dr. Ricks about this startling information

 Quoting: dallasdog972


The greatest part about this is that I'm not even arguing about Nibiru. I'm just simply stating that Astromut and his butt buddies think they have a good idea about space/time, but they really don't. Reality will jump kick them along with everyone else in the side of the head soon enough. They'll be screaming 'miracle' when they try to wrap their formulas/orbital elements/nonsense around the changes ahead, DOOM or no DOOM...
 Quoting: Harmonix



I actually like Astromut, I believe he is being sincere (Yes, even if he comes off arrogant) and is speaking about a field of science with which he is familiar. It's not that I don't trust what Astromut is saying. HOWEVER, I do know that science does not explain everything, and we are not even masters of our planet, let along the galaxy. So on one hand I have Astromut--who says Nibiru is garbage--and on the other hand I have Dr. Ricks--who I've known for many years, trusted, who says Nibiru is real, and it's coming--so I'm making a choice to place my faith in the person I know rather than an internet stranger.
 Quoting: dallasdog972



How long have you known Dr Ricks?...Is there a reason Dr Ricks has not made a world anouncement about Nibiru so everyone could make needed plans?...I do agree that anything can happen to be true...even Nibiru...if it were seen by more people now...not at the last minute maybe this attitude of those against it being real would change and instead of arguments...humanity could figure out a way to survive this...TOGETHER
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Explain how there are thousand+ year old cylindrical maps/scrolls depicting layouts of our solar system and galaxy?
 Quoting: harmonix

They don't. Uranus, Neptune, etc were not discovered until the modern era.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


WTF are you talking about? Just because the Western 'civilized' world didn't acknowledge them until recently does not mean people throughout time didn't have a clue. There are numerous examples of archaeological findings which depict accurate layouts of the solar system, including the outer planets/stars.
 Quoting: Harmonix

No, there are not.
The most common example being the Sumerian Seal which I assume almost every GLP'er has seen.
 Quoting: harmonix

Which does not "accurately depict the solar system."
You sound exactly how every other 'expert' out there would have sounded before trying to assure people the world was flat back in the day...
 Quoting: harmonix

Actually it was an ancient greek astronomer who long ago realized not only that the earth was round, but like any good scientist, quantitatively measured its circumference. It was the uneducated idiots who ignored him and continued to believe that the earth was flat and fear the repricussions. Careful scientific analysis had long ago already disproven their fears of sailing off the edge of the world.
My point is not that you know nothing, it's that you think you have a firm understanding of space and time (and it is compared to your average moran), but the'reality' of it is you basically know nothing.
 Quoting: harmonix

One of the most contradictory statements in the history of GLP. Congratulations. That's a real achievement. Again, I never claimed to know everything, I've sound countless times that I don't, but I do know some things that do allow me to rule out certain ridiculous claims.
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wtf???? this dude, whatever it is -- has been spamming this thread and the other ones for 3 days straight, 24/7 -- all day and all night.holy shit!!!! who, what does that??? this isn't normal behavior or is it -- at this point humanly possible for one person to be doing. this is got to be the most obvious proof of --- you know what i've ever seen on the internet.
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I'm just simply stating that Astromut and his butt buddies think they have a good idea about space/time, but they really don't. Reality will jump kick them along with everyone else in the side of the head soon enough.
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Yes, clearly you're smarter, wiser, and a more level headed person than me, clearly you know all about how reality is going to "kick me in the head" soon. Please, keep holding your breath.
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wtf???? this dude, whatever it is -- has been spamming this thread and the other ones for 3 days straight, 24/7 -- all day and all night.holy shit!!!! who, what does that??? this isn't normal behavior or is it -- at this point humanly possible for one person to be doing. this is got to be the most obvious proof of --- you know what i've ever seen on the internet.
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From "The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies"

"Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression...
6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not)."
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So, who hired you to impugn my motives and attack me personally?
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I just sent this video to my son and asked him to debunk it. He is an astrophysicist working at Harvard specializing in asteroid/kuiper belt objects and has access to world wide observatories. I will post his response.
 Quoting: Janine69


Here is my son's response
The man in thé video maintains that he is showing a planet orbiting a star nearby. We would expect to see the planet showing some kind of partial phase, not the perfectly full phase of his image.The later pictures are most certainly Venus, Jupiter, and the bright star Aldebaran along with somefainter background stars.These are currently very near each other in the early morning sky. Venus is visible in the daytime.I have taken pictures of It which look very much like his daytime photos.
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This may be a dumb question...but can Venus be seen in the daylight sky in Australia? I have never been able to see it in the daytime in Aus. I thought that was only possible from the northern hem.
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I just sent this video to my son and asked him to debunk it. He is an astrophysicist working at Harvard specializing in asteroid/kuiper belt objects and has access to world wide observatories. I will post his response.
 Quoting: Janine69


Here is my son's response
The man in thé video maintains that he is showing a planet orbiting a star nearby. We would expect to see the planet showing some kind of partial phase, not the perfectly full phase of his image.The later pictures are most certainly Venus, Jupiter, and the bright star Aldebaran along with somefainter background stars.These are currently very near each other in the early morning sky. Venus is visible in the daytime.I have taken pictures of It which look very much like his daytime photos.
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This may be a dumb question...but can Venus be seen in the daylight sky in Australia? I have never been able to see it in the daytime in Aus. I thought that was only possible from the northern hem.
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Why would it be any different in the southern hemisphere?
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You are quite correct. Apologies for my grammer.

In the video the op posted, he claims the richer scale has been changed by -1.

Just wondered why? If true!
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Ah. I hadn't listened to the latest twit on RubeTube.
Neddy Flanders, eh?

Neddy is new to the PX game it seems so he isn't the source of this 'richter scale changed' codswollop.

Johnny I-Wear-a-Tutu Moore is also relatively new to the PX scam but I have heard him recently reference this 'richter scale changed' lie. He seems to think it happened in 1985(?).

There is a constant reference to this bs from the PXers/earthchangers/pole-shifters since earthquake facts refute their claims.

As I've stated previously in other threads throughout the years, I first started hearing this lie from Nancy Lieder and her acolytes back in 2001-2002 since her predictions that EQs would become fierce in the year(s) leading up to the 2003 passage of The Invisible Pink Fairy Planet.
Since EQs were stubbornly uncooperative with her predictions she and her minions took the kOOk default position of denying reality and substituting a conspiracy to explain why the facts didn't match what she was claiming.

However, I do not believe she originated this idiotic lie. She isn't that original. She has a tendency to steal other's woo and adapt it to her purposes.

I believe it originated with another Internet Earth-Changer who was faced with constant failure of their predictions of massive EQ "upticks".

I may be wrong and Lieder is the originator. That is a far as I have been able to get in tracking down this lie as everyone who repeats it (except you) promptly goes mum when I ask where they heard this lie.

But to finish this post, the answer is - No.
The richter scale has not been changed.
That bit of woo is a lie.
It is understandable since EQs seem to be very stubborn in their refusal to "massively uptick" as the Earthchangers want them to do as a sign that the End Times are here.

Just thought I'd explain myself so you didn't think I was in attack mode with you.

Thanks.

Have fun.


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I just sent this video to my son and asked him to debunk it. He is an astrophysicist working at Harvard specializing in asteroid/kuiper belt objects and has access to world wide observatories. I will post his response.
 Quoting: Janine69


Here is my son's response
The man in thé video maintains that he is showing a planet orbiting a star nearby. We would expect to see the planet showing some kind of partial phase, not the perfectly full phase of his image.The later pictures are most certainly Venus, Jupiter, and the bright star Aldebaran along with somefainter background stars.These are currently very near each other in the early morning sky. Venus is visible in the daytime.I have taken pictures of It which look very much like his daytime photos.
 Quoting: Janine69


This may be a dumb question...but can Venus be seen in the daylight sky in Australia? I have never been able to see it in the daytime in Aus. I thought that was only possible from the northern hem.
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Why would it be any different in the southern hemisphere?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So that would be a Yes? Maybe it's brighter to the eye from here in America?...I could never find it looking from the south east of Aus. during the day.
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There are numerous examples of archaeological findings which depict accurate layouts of the solar system, including the outer planets/stars. The most common example being the Sumerian Seal which I assume almost every GLP'er has seen.

I saw another case not too long ago where they discovered a tribe way up in some African mountains that had been unknown and essentially untouched having no contact with the outside world. What did they find? Ohh yea that's right, a collection of detailed seals/drawings/hieroglyphs profiling our solar system carbon dated (which I think is off anyways) back thousands of years...
 Quoting: Harmonix

You really do believe every woo peddled on the web, don't you?

There's one born every minute.
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Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans.
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Maybe this could be useful for both of you
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Short answer: yes it was changed
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Short answer:
No the Richter Magnitude Scale has not changed.
You have provided a reference to the Moment Magnitude Scale.
Two different, but related, things.
Your link should have been:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
which indicated no change in the Richter magnitude scale.

You have to read with comprehension or you will fall into making erroneous conclusions.

The Richter Scale is M or M(l). It has not changed. Some countries and agencies use M(l) as their reporting metric.
The US transitioned to M(w) in the late '70s-early'80s for large EQs since it is more accurate as explained in your cited article.
The two scales give similar results except for large quakes where M(w) is more accurate. It doesn't "downgrade" magnitudes by 1 as claimed. The relationship between M(l) and M(w) is complex and the difference between the 2 is all over the board from positive, to neutral, to negative.
I recommend you go to the USGS site and download the "centennial catalog" to get an idea of the differences.

In any event Richter Magnitude Scale has not changed. It is still in use and is essentially a calculation based on the movement of the needle of a standard siesmometer.

Most EQ data at USGS is uniformly M(w) going back to the '70s (and before if you reference the centennial catalog) so strict comparisons can be made.

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This is absolute bullshit. Nibiru doesn't even exist. How can the coordinates be posted? Please elaborate.
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Please provide proof that Nibiru does NOT exist. Every known galaxy has a binary star system. If we did NOT, we would be the exception!
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Oh please. I would of saw it and many other amateur astronomers would have taken a snapshot of it, if it had existed. Please don't be ignorant on this subject matter. If another Planet existed we would definitely be feeling the effects of it now. Which we aren't.
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Don't be so quick to dismiss it. I heard today on the news some volcano went off in New Zealand? They said it was 'uncharacteristic'
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Also, both professional and amateur astronomers miss things all the time.

I like to point that out to astromut who thinks space could never hurt us, move along - nothing to see!

I am friends with guys who are serious pros, neither of them are arrogant enough to "never say never" to any scenario, but us having a binary twin would "NOT be shocking" they have told me, time and again. They would know, they TEACH the subject and are administrators at observatories.

They also talk about how unreliable our detection methods really are. NASA likes to suck it's own you know what, they miss stuff all the time and don't like to admit it.

An object, coming from well below the southern pole would not be an impossible scenario. The data and proof is all around us. Look how the governments have prepared, are almost "expecting" something that would require all the drastic laws that have been slammed down our throats - by Obummer and Bush.

Best to keep our eyes on this still.
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You are quite correct. Apologies for my grammer.

In the video the op posted, he claims the richer scale has been changed by -1.

Just wondered why? If true!
 Quoting: Unidentified

But to finish this post, the answer is - No.
The richter scale has not been changed.
That bit of woo is a lie.


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^^^ This ^^^

The MMS (Moment magnitude scale, Mw) was introduced in 1979 because the Richter scale saturates at the upper end of the scale (EQ >M8) and gives no accurate resultes with EQ epicenter distance >600km.

In general for medium and strong EQ (>6) the MMS gives greater numbers, only in rare cases the MMS number is smaler than the Richter number (~ 0.2 - 0.3).
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Only for EQ <3.5 the Richter scale is still in use.


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You are quite correct. Apologies for my grammer.

In the video the op posted, he claims the richer scale has been changed by -1.

Just wondered why? If true!
 Quoting: Unidentified

But to finish this post, the answer is - No.
The richter scale has not been changed.
That bit of woo is a lie.


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^^^ This ^^^

The MMS (Moment magnitude scale, Mw) was introduced in 1979 because the Richter scale saturates at the upper end of the scale (EQ >M8) and gives no accurate resultes with EQ epicenter distance >600km.

In general for medium and strong EQ (>6) the MMS gives greater numbers, only in rare cases the MMS number is smaler than the Richter number (~ 0.2 - 0.3).
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Only for EQ <3.5 the Richter scale is still in use.


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They changed the richter scale last year after Japan for some reason, but now all the 5's we are having would of all been 6's last year and all previous years. I would like to know why too. The only answer anybody has is," so not to scare the masses". Is that really the reason? It is 100% fact that it was changed. Also now it seems like they keep lowering them,in addition to the lower scale...Seems pretty F'ed up! Thanks in advance if someone has any answers.peace
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Sigh.

Where did you ever get this idea from?
It is a lie.

Did the person who told you this provide any evidence other than "a feeling"?
When dealing in kOOkdom it is wise to ask for evidence since kOOks lie. Constantly.

Ask for evidence.
You won't get it.


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This is absolute bullshit. Nibiru doesn't even exist. How can the coordinates be posted? Please elaborate.
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This vid might not be it, but nibiru is coming, so says Dr. Ricks.
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^^^ This ^^^

The MMS (Moment magnitude scale, Mw) was introduced in 1979 because the Richter scale saturates at the upper end of the scale (EQ >M8) and gives no accurate resultes with EQ epicenter distance >600km.

In general for medium and strong EQ (>6) the MMS gives greater numbers, only in rare cases the MMS number is smaler than the Richter number (~ 0.2 - 0.3).
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Only for EQ <3.5 the Richter scale is still in use.

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Yep. Thanks for pointing this out an bolding. I had hoped the readers would read the reference themselves and discover that, as your cite points out, the M(w) scale generally UPGRADES the magnitude, not downgrades. So the general tendency is the exact opposite of what the kOOks claim.

Thanks.


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Please provide proof that Nibiru does NOT exist. Every known galaxy has a binary star system. If we did NOT, we would be the exception!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21231157


Oh please. I would of saw it and many other amateur astronomers would have taken a snapshot of it, if it had existed. Please don't be ignorant on this subject matter. If another Planet existed we would definitely be feeling the effects of it now. Which we aren't.
 Quoting: +MarketSellOff+


Don't be so quick to dismiss it. I heard today on the news some volcano went off in New Zealand? They said it was 'uncharacteristic'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19980561


Also, both professional and amateur astronomers miss things all the time.

I like to point that out to astromut who thinks space could never hurt us, move along - nothing to see!

I am friends with guys who are serious pros, neither of them are arrogant enough to "never say never" to any scenario, but us having a binary twin would "NOT be shocking" they have told me, time and again. They would know, they TEACH the subject and are administrators at observatories.

They also talk about how unreliable our detection methods really are. NASA likes to suck it's own you know what, they miss stuff all the time and don't like to admit it.

An object, coming from well below the southern pole would not be an impossible scenario. The data and proof is all around us. Look how the governments have prepared, are almost "expecting" something that would require all the drastic laws that have been slammed down our throats - by Obummer and Bush.

Best to keep our eyes on this still.
 Quoting: DrumrDude


Thank you...
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Also, both professional and amateur astronomers miss things all the time.

I like to point that out to astromut who thinks space could never hurt us, move along - nothing to see!

I am friends with guys who are serious pros, neither of them are arrogant enough to "never say never" to any scenario, but us having a binary twin would "NOT be shocking" they have told me, time and again. They would know, they TEACH the subject and are administrators at observatories.

They also talk about how unreliable our detection methods really are. NASA likes to suck it's own you know what, they miss stuff all the time and don't like to admit it.

An object, coming from well below the southern pole would not be an impossible scenario. The data and proof is all around us. Look how the governments have prepared, are almost "expecting" something that would require all the drastic laws that have been slammed down our throats - by Obummer and Bush.

Best to keep our eyes on this still.
 Quoting: DrumrDude


Astromut has never said that space could never hurt us. Also, the kinds of things that NASA is missing are very small asteroids, not Nibiru-sized brown dwarfs.
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I'm just simply stating that Astromut and his butt buddies think they have a good idea about space/time, but they really don't. Reality will jump kick them along with everyone else in the side of the head soon enough.
 Quoting: Harmonix

Yes, clearly you're smarter, wiser, and a more level headed person than me, clearly you know all about how reality is going to "kick me in the head" soon. Please, keep holding your breath.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Never said I knew more than anybody else. I'm just trying to show you how ignorant and naive you all are because we don't have the slightest clue. Change is the only constant fuck head so you keep holding your breath that your perfect little world is going to stay nice and cozy forever.

Time is cyclic and the conditions are once again present for things to occur, not just on a cosmis level. A prime example is the dismantling and overall chaos about to hit your 'glorious' country...

If some threat from space doesn't get you, your government will. For as much as you want to deny, 'the world as you know it' WILL be coming to an end in the very near future...





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