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New study determines chemotherapy treatment can actually WORSEN cancer!

 
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New study determines chemotherapy treatment can actually WORSEN cancer!
Chemotherapy can backfire and worsen cancer, a new study has found

A new study has found that chemotherapy can damage healthy cells and fuel cancer growth.


Despite its life-saving qualities, chemotherapy has long had a nasty reputation, known as a necessary poison for people suffering from cancer. But in some cases, chemotherapy is so damaging that it may even backfire and make the cancer worse, a new study has found. The study, published in Nature Medicine, found that chemotherapy causes damage to healthy cells, which triggers them secrete a protein that actually sustains tumor growth, Cancer UK reported.

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could the supposed link in genetics (aka cancer in your family) actually be from the exposure you recieved in the hospital while being supportive to someone taking chemo?
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could the supposed link in genetics (aka cancer in your family) actually be from the exposure you recieved in the hospital while being supportive to someone taking chemo?
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I always thought that was because they generally exposed themselves to the same household chemicals and diets. I suppose it could be extended to what they get exposed to together during chemo/radiation therapy.
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I watched my mother suffer through horrible chemo treatments through a port in her chest under her skin. I would NEVER recommend chemo to anyone in my family. She suffered so greatly from it and for what? She died soon after.

Great article - somehow I knew it was true.
This too shall pass...
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well duh
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The body if it has the nutritional means will fight off cancer cells as it does any infection, foreign object etc.
Antioxidents honey, vitamins... healthy clean food, if you get cancer you would have a better chance of riding it if your body is in good condition.

I have made the decision long ago I would not do chemo no matter what. Yesterday I lost another good friend to bone cancer, so its something I always wonder about alot like having a target painted on ones chest.. like when will it be my turn?
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The body if it has the nutritional means will fight off cancer cells as it does any infection, foreign object etc.
Antioxidents honey, vitamins... healthy clean food, if you get cancer you would have a better chance of riding it if your body is in good condition.

I have made the decision long ago I would not do chemo no matter what. Yesterday I lost another good friend to bone cancer, so its something I always wonder about alot like having a target painted on ones chest.. like when will it be my turn?
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I agree about the healthy food, etc. I made it through on lifestyle changes and surgery alone. The surgery was needed though IMO, my insides were a mess.
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I am a big proponent of juicing, super healthy diets, exercise, etc. I remember reading that the body creates cancerous cells as a way of isolating damaged tissue. The cancer is actually a healing rrsonse. get it cut out if you need to, but then inundate your body with good health. Juice especially. Never have chemo, as that lowers the body's immune system. You eant to build it up at that time.
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I read the peach kernels inside a peach seed has anti-cancer properties. I eat them one-a-day.
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read/watch "world without cancer", there's a reasonable body of evidence to suggest that cancer is actually just a vitamin deficiency (b17, present in large quantities in bitter almonds and apple seeds)
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Yes it is well known. Because you change some hormons in the body, and if you do not give some of them in high dosis directly after the chemo to your body, the body will drop in the future again. The medicines do well know it, but nobody is reacting cleverly. So, damage, and, pain!
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You can find an article in the magazine NEXUS, german version:
[link to www.nexus-magazin.de]

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Yes it is well known. Because you change some hormons in the body, and if you do not give some of them in high dosis directly after the chemo to your body, the body will drop in the future again. The medicines do well know it, but nobody is reacting cleverly. So, damage, and, pain!
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Oh, sory, not "hormons" but this:"Die Autoren dieses Berichts weisen darauf hin, dass die Gabe von Angiogenesehemmern schon bei der ersten Operation die Lösung sein könnte. Diese Medikamente hemmen die Neubildung von Blutgefäßen im Körper und damit auch innenliegender Tumoren, sodass diese nicht wachsen können."
That is, I mean, very interesting!!!!!!!!!!
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It seems these days that the experts are the last to discover what everybody else with half a brain already knows. Anybody that would undergo chemotherapy has never once looked at alternative, effective cures, and I guess deserves the misery of chemo.
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There will never be a pharmaceutical industry cure for cancer, heart disease or diabetes. These are the cash cows that drive the industry. If you cure them the money dries up. Sad but true.
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Doctors & nurses = mass murders

they all know gencide is going on and they participate in it
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It seems these days that the experts are the last to discover what everybody else with half a brain already knows. Anybody that would undergo chemotherapy has never once looked at alternative, effective cures, and I guess deserves the misery of chemo.
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no one deserves to be murdered especially sick people deceived by doctors you jackass
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It seems these days that the experts are the last to discover what everybody else with half a brain already knows. Anybody that would undergo chemotherapy has never once looked at alternative, effective cures, and I guess deserves the misery of chemo.
 Quoting: Big Richard 811101


Wrong..the people that are diagnosed with cancer are immediately set up with Oncologist <chemo doctors> and Radiologist <for radiation> and they are too scared not to listen to the doctors..so they go along with it and end up dead....Saw it happen....They even make you sign something saying if you quit in the middle of "treatment" they don't have to take you back...Screw them..hope they all die a tortures hell like those they administered their posion too!
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Chemotherapy can backfire and worsen cancer, a new study has found

A new study has found that chemotherapy can damage healthy cells and fuel cancer growth.


Despite its life-saving qualities, chemotherapy has long had a nasty reputation, known as a necessary poison for people suffering from cancer. But in some cases, chemotherapy is so damaging that it may even backfire and make the cancer worse, a new study has found. The study, published in Nature Medicine, found that chemotherapy causes damage to healthy cells, which triggers them secrete a protein that actually sustains tumor growth, Cancer UK reported.

More at [link to www.globalpost.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


News Flash!!!!!

Chemo and Radiation Therapy does not cure cancer. Radiation causes cancer, it does not cure cancer. Studies have found that placebos (sugar pills) are just effective. The American Cancer Society is not intersted in curing cancer, they are intersted in profit. They, with the help of the their political constituents, have made it illegal to cure cancer in this county. They will hunt down, ruin, and even murder anyone who has tried to cure cancer.

A well know forensic pathologist whose autopsied hundreds of so called cancer patients never saw one who died from cancer. If a doctor diagnose you with cancer, and talks you into their conventional treatments, they will exhaust every dime you have, then kill you in 5 years. If you live five years, one day, you're a cancer survivor.

Many ask how could they do this, if they know these treatments don't work. Answer: They have too much money invested in the infrastructure, and they are determined to be profitable, even to the detriment of your loved ones.

Cancer is curable through diet, and complete toxic cleansing.


Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food. -Hippocrates.

Youtube: "The Beautiful Truth", "Food Matters", "Burzinski", (all on Netflix, also)etc.
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It seems these days that the experts are the last to discover what everybody else with half a brain already knows. Anybody that would undergo chemotherapy has never once looked at alternative, effective cures, and I guess deserves the misery of chemo.
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no one deserves to be murdered especially sick people deceived by doctors you jackass
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That's what I'm saying fuckstick! They're not murdered either. They ignorantly and voluntarily let cancer doctor's poison them until they die.
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read/watch "world without cancer", there's a reasonable body of evidence to suggest that cancer is actually just a vitamin deficiency (b17, present in large quantities in bitter almonds and apple seeds)
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Absolute and utter bullshit quackery.
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Doctors & nurses = mass murders

they all know gencide is going on and they participate in it
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Yep, they have no choice... Tow the line, or lose the paycheck.
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Doctors & nurses = mass murders

they all know gencide is going on and they participate in it
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Yep, they have no choice... Tow the line, or lose the paycheck.
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Can I take you to task on this please, just to try and dispel this nonsense?


It takes on average $900 million to develop a single drug. Think about it. $900 million. That’s an amount of money that even Bill Gates would have trouble finding down the back of the sofa on a regular basis. Of the drugs that get out of pre-clinical testing, 70% will fail at Phase 1 trial stage. One of the reasons that drug discovery is so expensive is that (apart from the fact that it’s so difficult and laborious), the pharmaceutical industry is so heavily regulated.

Now I’m not defending Big Pharma. Far from it. I can't stand them. Their price fixing and handling of off-patent drugs in the 3rd world is criminal, they aren’t always transparent with their methods and data and when they mess up, people die. But they exist to make money and if, for example, 1 in 3 people in the Western world will get cancer in their lifetime do you not think that they would exploit a cure, any cure and have us over a barrel to make money from it? Not to mention the kudos, the plaudits, the Nobel Prizes that any scientist would receive if they managed to cure the potentially incurable? The idea that they would regularly throw away close to a billion dollars while sitting on possibly one of the most lucrative ideas of all time is laughable. Then there's the sheer number of people, in the thousands, they would have to pay to slap gagging orders on.

Furthermore, the failings of Big Pharma do not in any way vindicate the tofu weaving approaches of untested, unproven and unregulated alternative treatments. Of course they’re going to appear cheaper, they don’t have to be rigorously tested, they can get around all current licensing because they’re NOT MEDICINE.

Do you know how much the alternative medicine BUSINESS generates each year?
In excess of $50 BILLION.
Yes, that's right, they're in it for the same reasons as big pharma not because they care about you.

It annoys the hell out of me when I read testimonies saying people have been "cured" of cancer and absolutely no evidence whatsoever is provided. I could write on here that licking sandstone cures gout and it would carry the same credence (before you ask, it doesn't, ok?).

Sorry to urinate on people's bonfires but pH balancing is hokum, anabolic and catabolic states in regards to cancer are hokum, eating certain foods and modifying diets to CURE cancer are hokum (having a balanced and healthy diet can HELP PREVENT cancer but that's it).

Believe it or not, a cancer diagnosed early enough has a very high chance of being removed completely or put into remission indefinitely. A hell of a lot higher than these alt sites will want you to believe. Have a proper look around if you don't want to take my word for it. Chemo and radiotherapy help a hell of a lot more people than they hinder. Yes, they're horrible and have side-effects and no, they're not 100% effective, but they're nowhere near as horrible as cancer.
But you know what angers me the most? The fact that certain people are that brainwashed by this that they will use these fake methods after they've been diagnosed and delay potential life-saving treatment. Then, when they finally wake up and realise that this "miracle cure" isn't actually working and go to their physicians they find out that their cancer has progressed to a point where conventional treatment can't be as effective.

Now I know it's a trendy thing to do to knock chemo and radiotherapy and as I've mentioned they are horrendous treatments but it seems like people are taking as read the (dis)information found on sites promoting alternative cancer cures etc. NONE OF WHICH WORK. AT ALL! If they did, see above.
Is that the GLP way just accepting the first thing you read without actually doing some proper research into it? Or because chemo and rad are tied to big business then it must be bad eh?

Feel free to disagree with me but please back-up your argument with real documented evidence as the sites that promote these methods can't do that as they don't actually have any evidence to show.
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and now they use chemo drugs and antibiotics for everything... watch out even though your doc dont know it, they are killing you!
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Re: New study determines chemotherapy treatment can actually WORSEN cancer!
Chemotherapy can backfire and worsen cancer, a new study has found

A new study has found that chemotherapy can damage healthy cells and fuel cancer growth.


Despite its life-saving qualities, chemotherapy has long had a nasty reputation, known as a necessary poison for people suffering from cancer. But in some cases, chemotherapy is so damaging that it may even backfire and make the cancer worse, a new study has found. The study, published in Nature Medicine, found that chemotherapy causes damage to healthy cells, which triggers them secrete a protein that actually sustains tumor growth, Cancer UK reported.

More at [link to www.globalpost.com]
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It was used as a chemical weapon of warfare. What else would you expect?
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It seems these days that the experts are the last to discover what everybody else with half a brain already knows. Anybody that would undergo chemotherapy has never once looked at alternative, effective cures, and I guess deserves the misery of chemo.
 Quoting: Big Richard 811101


no one deserves to be murdered especially sick people deceived by doctors you jackass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246336


That's what I'm saying fuckstick! They're not murdered either. They ignorantly and voluntarily let cancer doctor's poison them until they die.
 Quoting: Big Richard 811101


^THIS^ is what I hope we are evolving past.. Nobody seems to be able to debate issues without childish name calling anymore..
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the irony is chemotherapy drugs are carcinogens.
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Chemotherapy = mustard gas

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