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Hilal Bin Sahar, Crescent Moon, Son of the Morning. in Arabic...

THE MISSION OF MY POST IS TO MOVE AWAY FROM CHILDRENS MYTHOLOGIES AND INTO THE REAL WORLD OF EDUCATION, LINGUISTICS, CULTURE, HISTORY and ORIGINS OF WORDS and WORLD WATCH. End the silly stories once and for all cause my commentaries plead for a serious look into the convergence of the Abrahamic religions.


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But, the Isaiah passage does not connect, either historically or theologically, with the New Testament passages about the devil or the satan. By listening to the Old Testament passage on its own terms within its own context, we discover that lucifer is not an Old Testament name for the devil or the satan. The passage in Isaiah 14:12-17 is mockery directed at the downfall of the arrogant Babylonian rulers. The fourteenth chapter of Isaiah is not about a fallen angel, but about a fallen Babylonian king, who during his lifetime had persecuted the children of Israel. It contains no mention of Satan, either by name or reference.

The passages primary meaning is given in Isaiah 14:4 which says that when Israel is restored they will "take up this taunt against the king of Babylon, Verse 12 is a part of this taunt song. This passage refers to the fall of that earthly king.

Isaiah 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

LOL
When Joseph Smith pretended to translate the supposed 'ancient record', he included the Lucifer verse in the Book of Mormon, the false Christian doctrine that "Lucifer" means Satan also spread into a third set of Mormon scriptures, the Pearl of Great Price, which describes a war in heaven based, in part, on Joseph Smith's incorrect interpretation of the word "Lucifer" which only appears in Isaiah.

In Latin at the time, "lucifer" actually meant Venus as a morning star. Isaiah is using this metaphor for a bright light, though not the greatest light to illustrate the apparent power of the Babylonian king which then faded."

By beginning with the New Testament, by making assumptions not supported by a closer examination of Scripture itself, and by using external theological categories as a lens through which to read Scripture, we may end up badly misreading Isaiah, myself included.













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Here is the passage from Isaiah, and you tell me how this applies to a Babylonian king:

Isaiah 14:12-15

How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star [Lucifer], son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
You said in your heart,
“I will ascend to the heavens;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.”
But you are brought down to the realm of the dead,
to the depths of the pit.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini



A better question would be,
how is this verse about Satan.


"Lucifer has become a by-word for Satan in the Church and in popular literature", as in Dante Alighieri's Inferno and John Milton's Paradise Lost.

LOL

Have you even read Isaiah ?
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Smoke and mirrors. Why are you avoiding my question?

But, I'll be gracious and answer yours.

There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18:

"I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”

A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28. Notice that it is talking about Satan, who was in the Garden of Eden:

“‘You were the seal of perfection,
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
...
You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.
...
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini



Ezekiel 28 is not about the Satan.
you're obviously no saying anything, this thread is stupid beyond description.


Ezekiel 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, l am A God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God.

Specific reference to 'yet thou art a man'. First we have to realize that satan means adversary when translated to english (not a proper noun), so we really have to read what this chapter says about the King of Tyre from this angle. Also this is an inferred situation, satan, devil or lucifer is never mentioned here. When a word or phrase is repeated it is for emphasis sake. The author is saying, pay special attention to this, it has huge relevance.

Ezekiel 28:3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel, there is no secret they can keep from thee.

(Christians like to think this is satan being wiser than Daniel, but lets look at a Daniel passage) "Daniel 2:28 But there is a God in heaven that reveals secrets and makes known to the King Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these;" A different word for secret is used in Ezekiel. Ezekiel used satham, to keep closed, the context here are secrets that a King would know as opposed to secrets that God reveals. The secret talked about in Ezekiel pertains to earthly knowledge and not, as in Daniel, heavenly God revealed knowledge. Notice the word 'they' which refers to a group of people, so the inclination is about man's knowledge, this is supported also in the next verses.

Ezekiel 28:4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures.

Ezekiel 28:5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches.

Tyre was a sea port with 2 docks, north and south = traffic, trade and wealth.
God would never say to satan that his wisdom and understanding has gotten him riches. Satan doesn't care about gold and silver (riches) he wants people. And how is traffic going to make satan rich? Again we can clearly see that the point of these verses are not pointing to satan but to the King of Tyre, a human.


Ezekiel 28:10 Thou shaft die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

The King of Tyre shall die as a man. Angels cannot be killed by man or men or an army even, this is not an angel, angels cannot die because they are sinless and the "wages of sin is death". If it is satan then God waited a long time to kill him and thank god he is dead! now we don't have to worry about satan because he died at the prophecy and workings of GOD and GOD didn't have to kill him apparently some strangers did it. Safe to say this passage isn't talking about satan at all.




Ezekiel 28:14
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

The anointed Cherub that covers is talking about Tyre when it had a much better relationship with Israel, God's people, in fact, Solomon asked Hiram to help in the building of the First temple in: 1 Kings 5 And Hiram king of Tyre sent his servants unto Solomon; for he had heard that they had anointed him king in the room of his father: for Hiram was ever a lover of David. The holy mountain of God is Zion and Zion is in jerusalem, it is the mount of God on earth. The Stones of fire refer to the Breastplate of Jewels in the ephod of the priests garment which represented the tribes of Israel, when the conqueror walked amongst the land he conquered, which Nebuchadnezzar plainly did, he metaphorically walked amongst the children of Israel and thus amongst the breastplate of Jewels which represented the 12 tribes of Israel. It's a poem or lamentation, poetic imagery - not stones of fire, literally.


Ezekiel 28:16 by the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence and thou hast sinned.

Once again satan cares nothing for merchandise, merchandise is something that mankind likes. God would never say to satan, your merchandise is the reason you are filled with violence, no, again this talks of human reaction to wealth and greed.
































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Also, the book of Ezekiel is not talking about the satan..

Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation (form of poetry expressing grief.) upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him. Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.


and thus begins the poem... perfect also means complete, complete in beauty. Kings had a luxurious lifestyle, plenty of everything and Kings were also supposed to be wise, experienced and educated.

Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God,
Satan is inferred to have been in the garden of God, now, these following verses talk about pharaoh of Egypt.
Ezekiel 31:8 The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty. Ezekiel 31:9 I have made him (pharoah) fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.
Now we have two people in the garden of God, the King of Tyre and pharaoh of Egypt. Can
both be satan? No one seems to think pharaoh is satan in chapter 31. This, garden of God is allegorical and just means they are located in the prime area of Eden - geographically - on earth not in a different time period at the beginning of creation. If we do not over read into this we come up with two sets of peoples who are geographically in the garden area of God, on earth in this (at that time) present era.

Ezekiel 28:13 every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Created here refers to the King of Tyre's ascension to the throne. During ceremonies and perhaps just out of habit since royal purple was manufactured here, dressing to the 10's may not have been uncommon to the king of Tyre, since, he thought pretty highly of himself, centered at the commercial center of the islamic/jewish world. When a King is crowned he is termed 'born again' which equals created. This is true, there are 5 times in a Hebrew's lifetime that they are born again or created and one of them is when they are crowned king. This saying represents a completely different life, the life of a king!.


Angels cannot die they are created immortal and immortal beings cannot die. What brings death is sin. God created angels to obey him perfectly and thusly why he made them to be immortal. God does not create flawed beings that go haywire, and persuade 1/3 of the angels who also are flawed to join him who are already imbued with immortality. Its a ridiculous theory and one way to support this theory is to infer that this chapter refers to satan. Prophetic books always point forward not backward. Ezekiel Chapter 25 is prophecy against Ammon, Moab, Edom and Philistia. Chapter 26 is a prophecy against Tyre, chapter 27 lamentation for tyre and chapter 28 Tyrus's pride and ruin; Chapter 29 begins Egypt's pride and desolation; 30 is a lament for Egypt and chapter 31 parable of the cedars of Lebanon - a lot of nations are represented here. You have to ask yourself, why would God choose here to do a little stroll down memory lane in chapter 28 and in the middle of all this talk about earthly nations throw in a bit about satan?
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Apollo, you ought to read that extraordinary book by dr Jonathan Gray called: "The Hidden Secret", in which he among others clearly explains how rabbis in the past have obfuscated the historical date of Jesus the Redeemer round 20 AD as being the true Messiah as promised and named even in the O.T. as Yeshuah, as you'll probably know.
His Second Coming will be as the King of the Universe and no one will deny him in his Glory and Kingship.
That'll be when mankind is at the end of her mettle and all seems lost. I really recommend that book, also for the hermetic code of 7 in all of the four Gospels, not possible for ordinary man to duplicate .
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Must have escaped your attention with all your and others dazzling info, but I truly find this an astounding read, this "Forbidden Secret"by Jonathan Gray.
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I haven't read it but I get his newsletters from New Zealand.
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Chazak uBaruch (Strong and Blessed)

Great work as I have read thus far


AS FAR AS MASHIACH (Messiah)coming from the lands of Exile
It is like Moses growing up in the House of Pharoe
and Moses Marrying a convert and Ruth coming from Moab
the "external" energies need to be connected to the Soul (souls)of Redemptive force

WE HAVE BEEN WAY OUT THERE.............

the Gentile "Bride" of Christ.
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No such thing, in the whole Bible. Gentiles and idolaters will be forced out of the Kingdom. Don´t stay one of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


There is a essay on Moshiach how he might be in Edom , hiding behind the lattice... until he is called out just like Moshe was to return and lead his people back to G-d.
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apollo and heylel what do you think would happen to jewish people in israel, i mean the bible says that all evil in the world is for the sake of israel.

eventhough that ww3 is going to center on israel god said that the jewish people would be safe. what do you think of that
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If we look at the six orders of Mishnah, There is open mem Me'eymasai and then a closed men as in Shalom..

Remember the Walls of Jerusalem were viewed and they were broken. This is the open one until

"G-d will bless his people with peace"

There will be disruption and unrest until the exiles are ingathered..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


2/3 DIED in the plague of darkness in Egypt

they did not make it out


In Zohar Chadash Tikunim it says that the same will happen again, in the plague of darkness God had them take the Egypt's wealth as compensation for the years of slavery and then some.

It says there in the Zohar the other side will come at them hard to hold on to their money with evil intent
and they will not want to leave the exile lands


And the same fate will befall them as happened in Egypt


There are around 6 million Hebrews living in Isreal now
that already is alot of in gathering of exiles

It alot further along than most think
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Apollo, You swing a wide swath of shot for someone who does not know what he is talking about.
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I do know what Im talking about. Christians have stated that the Anti Christ will build the third temple. The Jewish people have stated that the Moshiach will build the third temple

So,

How are you going to resolve this one? Should Christians hide behind Israeli souvenirs and become a Messianic Jew?

or will they stay blissfully Roman.
Most Christians dont even know that their holidays are Roman !

Or will you give heads up and prepare and educate
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Solomon's temple = 1st

Ezra and Zerubbabel = 2nd

Herod = 3rd.

What are you talking about? You keep mixing Catholic doctrine with Christians.
 Quoting: NightWisp


herod only renovated the 2nd temple. he didnt build a new temple
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The Temple described in Ezekiel has a different design that which the world has never seen


Not yet


THIS WILL BE THE 3RD TEMPLE


Concerning it it is written

The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)
The Radak explains "offshoot of righteousness" this refers to Messiah. The Metsudat David says we will call the place of Jerusalem when this prophesy is fulfilled YHV"H is our righteousness. This depicts a little how dramatic this time will be to Jerusalem. The Metsudat David teaches us from the words " do sacrifice for all days" that there will not be cut off the sacrifice because there shall forever be this service. Hashem will return the Cohaniam and all their aspects as described in the Torah into action again as in days of old.

READ MORE ABOUT WHAT IS TO COME HERE

THERE IS ALOT HERE

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THERE IS ALSO A COMPLETE BOOK ON WHATS TO BE
MOST OF THE MATERIAL HAS NEVER BEEN IN ENGLISH
BEFORE AND FROM ANCIENT MANUSCRIPTS OF "SIFRI CHITZONIM"
APOCRYPHA

HERE
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IT IS THE ONE CALLED "THE MESSAGE"

Nothing like it exists elsewhere !
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but most living in Isreal are descended from converts, from central Europe, in the middle ages...
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they are called ashkenazi. they are 25% of the population.
but about a third of them are not ashkenazi but northern african jewish people who migrated to europe in the muslim occupation of europe and spain, and some migrated during the late 1800's with north africa being colonized by european empires.

the rest are german and polish jewish people, they are the fraud, they are the rothcshilds and einstains and marx and all that shit. they are the synagauge of satan who stole judaism and tricked the true jewish people into building israel prior to the messiah, with the mass panic the jewish people were in after the holocaust.
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so what are you saying that there are no white isrealites or jewish people they are all devil fruads ..
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no not exactly. those jewish people are fraud. but there are white jewish people who are pure jewish people.

the problem are the kazarian jewish people. the king of kazaria converted his entire kingdom to judaism. those jewish people - ashkenazi, are not considered pure jewish people, but its taboo to speak about it in judaism and in israel.
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What are you talking about if there are any people still of kazarian jewish lineage they are as Jewish as any other Jew. Converts are jewish people , just the same ??????????


HERE IS THE TRUTH OF THE Kuzari

The Kitab al Khazari, commonly called the Kuzari, is one of most famous works of the medieval Spanish Jewish philosopher and poet Rabbi Yehuda Halevi, completed around 1140.

The Kuzari came to be regarded as a classic wherever it was so received and disseminated to jewish people and Gentiles over nearly 750 years of translation, interpretation, commentary and criticism.

.According to Rabbi Eliyahu (the ”Gaon”) of Vilna:
The Kuzari is ”holy and pure, and the fundamentals of Israel’s faith and the Torah are contained within.”

Its title is an Arabic phrase meaning “Book of the Khazars”.

The Khazars held a symposium to decide whether his people should convert to Judaism, Christianity or Islam. The book documents this dialogue that took place at some point in the last decades of the 8th century or the early 9th century. Following the discussions the King of the Khazars and his people converted to Judaism. The 10th century Persian historian Ibn al-Faqih reported that ”all the Khazars are jewish people.” .

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rofl

This douche just deletes posts by people who challenge or disagree with him.

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Now what this whole thing has been heading towards revealing the "penimi" the inner aspect of the Torah.


Here is a way to get to it

brushing a way confusing complexity

I WILL TAKE YOU THERE


In the beginning humankind had the ability to “see from one end of the world to the other. ”Adam and Eve existed in “bodies of light,” not ones of flesh and blood. Therefore they had no physical mouths with which to eat and no physical stomachs with which to digest. The Garden of Eden also was no physical place. Rather, it was a domain situated in a dimensional reality completely different from our own. The references to the earthly rivers going out of Eden are metaphorical. By our standards there was nothing physical to it at all. Any searches therefore for a terrestrial Garden of Eden are wasted endeavors pursuing myths, not reality.


Eden itself is a reference to that dimensional plane that immediately oversees and provides sustenance to our own. Our physical universe is subject to this higher parallel dimensional plane in that this “other” is the source of all things here, both material and energetic. In Aden are the Souls of the Righteous, and Holy people while in this world can interact with this realm to draw Divine abundance for this world.


The ability to “see from one end of the world to the other. ” was lost as a result of eating the forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge Good and Evil. By this Eve and then Adam were sucked into this physical plane and were unprepared to deal with it. It is a terrible thing to once be able to see everything and then only be able to see almost nothing. Our greatest blindness however does not come from the limitation of our physical eyes, but rather from the limitations which imprison our minds enabling them only to see that which the physical eye sees. Yet, the mind is able to see far beyond these limitations. We often do not recognize the true nature of existence because of our our limited perceptions. The reality that we perceive is only like the point of a pin. All else we cannot understand we force to fit in to our physical perception of reality.


Adam and Eve were not tethered to the higher dimensional plane. Through the metaphor of eating the fruit from the Tree of Life. Adam and Eve descended down the black hole into our physical universe began it was too late for them to grab on to the Tree of Life. We have been suffering from the crippling effects of our choices ever since.

Adam and Eve were thus sucked down the black hole and into our physical universe. However they were naked and needed to be clothed, as the garments of the soul in the Garden of Eden are different than those of this world. This is when Elohim, G-d, author of natural law gave them garments, which were their flesh and blood bodies. Those that are bound by the laws of nature that rule this world. Yet, now they were stuck. How could they ever repair this? How could they ever get back to where they were supposed to be and complete the mission for which we were brought into being in the first place? How can we “get back to the Garden ?”


Our Source Above did not abandon us in our internal blindness and mental retardation. God did not abandon us to that fate but instead chose to intervene. In our retarded state, contact was made with us. Even with ourminutely small ability to understand we were contacted; a bridge was open and communication received. We were given the opportunity to heal our collective human mental handicap and to once again learn to see beyond our eyes and to again embrace the universe “from one end to another.” Thiswas the giving of Torah on Sinai. Although we were untethered and could not rescue ourselves, Heaven had its ways to lower to us a life preserver. This is Torah. The Torah is actually the fruit of the Tree of Life that has the ability to channel down into this universe of ours the power of the higher domain. It has with in it the connection conduit vortex to the realm where this world receives Divine flow from and where providence is directed from, the Garden of Eden. It opens a doorway, more like a ladder through which movement, communications and the passage of knowledge can occur. This is the ladder that Jacob saw in his dream. And this is the meaning of the verse that says about Torah that, “it is a Tree of Life to those who grasp it.” Because it is like a tether, one has to grab it and hold on tight; only then can one use it to climb up and out from our limited false perception of reality.


At Sinai, an interdimensional vortex was opened.

The Great Source Above spoke directly into our minds. The Torah was received telepathically. The physical ears of the people only heard a great whining sound. The Voice of God was not heard in the physical ear, the Words of God spoke from within this “whining sound”, which was like the sound of a ram’s horn (Shofar). The words of God were heard by our souls. When the interdimensional vortex was opened at Sinai, a wormhole bridge was opened connecting multiple dimensions. The original Torah was much more technologically advanced than we can presently imagine. Our Sages say that the original “tablets” looked like sapphire stone and that the letters actually hovered over the tablets when at the same time they penetrated them through and through. The great Talmudic commentator Rashi comments discusses in what type of script was the original Torah written and he comments that the letters used were those similar to those that we find today used in amulets. Amulet script is also called the Alphabet of the Angels. The first tablets that Moses received were most unlike the second ones. The first contained no barriers, veils or disguises. The original Torah would have been absorbed into the minds of those who simply made contact with it.

THIS IS A LONG READ

UNDERSTAND WHAT SET FORTH THERE

AND YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY

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The name of God YHVH CAN BE PRONOUNCED IN INFINATE WAY
EACH UNIQUE COMBINATION OF "NIKUDOT" (vowel POINTS)
HAS ITS ONE UNIQUE REVELATION OF CORRECTIVE ENERGY, RESONANCE

BUT THE NAME MUST BE IN "YICHUD" (UNIFICATION) WITH ITS SOURCE, THE GOD. WHEN THE NAME IS PROPERLY INVOKED
IT NOT ONE SAYING IT BUT THE "HOLY SPIRIT"
CALLED VOICE OF "Chasmal" (Electrum Ezek 1:27) speaking through one and when this happens there is no doubt. It is a obvious thing.

The name is NOT PRONOUNCED at this time in the lower world our bodies live in called Asiyah (physical)
only in the upper worlds. As this is where the VOICE OF "Chasmal" resides and this is the secret.
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rofl

This douche just deletes posts by people who challenge or disagree with him.

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He will even delete posts days later, after the discussion is finished.
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THERE IS SO MUCH IN A NAME


especially if its a DIVINE ONE !
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Apollo,

Brother let it be known that the former veil of the flesh shall no longer dwell in the hearts of man when this is finally finished and put away and all shall be turned back over to THE FATHER/MOTHER whom is THE WORD that is the testimony that has come alive within US ALL...

The following is for you Apollo for strength in these Times;

Hebrews 10:32

Make a good call Apollo to remembrance to those who read your threads of the former days in which, after you were Illuminated,you are and have endured a GREAT FIGHT of Affliction.Stand your ground but with all humbleness and meekness...

You are fighting a good fight,continue as you have done and at the end of days there will be a number of treasures that are stored in the Kingdom for what you do as a good remembrance to those whom hear your testimony...

To be clear about the matter at hand, Apollo is not advocating IDOLS of men who worship Moloch the owl Abomination in which they have been sacrificing the generations of men to for the love of the filthy lucre of their lusts and displeasure...

I Marty en-eng`ko stand with you in this battle for the salvation of the souls of man...

My Love to you and may you live forever and never perish Apollo...

K Eve`ykw enegko eneglaim Marty en-eng`ko eng`edi
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Smoke and mirrors. Why are you avoiding my question?

But, I'll be gracious and answer yours.

There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18:

"I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”

A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28. Notice that it is talking about Satan, who was in the Garden of Eden:

“‘You were the seal of perfection,
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
...
You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.
...
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.
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Yes, but the the "Isaiah" passage in question does not connect, either historically or theologically, with the New Testament passages about the devil or the satan.

so not you failed to answer truthfully.

Also, Mount Horeb is not Mount Zaphon

Theodoret of Cyrus (c. 393 – c. 457) wrote that Isaiah calls the king "morning star", not as being the star, but as having had the illusion of being it.
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What do you mean the Isaiah passage doesn't connect to what Jesus is speaking of? Absolutely it does. They are talking about the same event.

And, what on God's green earth does Mt. Horeb have to do with anything?

And finally, who is Theodoret of Cyrus (sounds like an old SNL skit with Steve Martin) and why do I care what he has to say about anything?
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Good sir, what event would that be?
Just cause Jesus seen Satan fall from the sky as lighting does not mean the Isaiah passage is talking about the same thing, you don't understand Isaiah do you ?


Ezekiel 28
"So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God"

Isaiah 14
"I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon"

LOL
come on Satan, pick one mountain to sit enthroned on..
plus why would Satan want to sit enthroned on Mount Zaphon ?

that's just stupid.
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Mt. Zaphon is a reference to the pagan god Baal. Baal also bears the title of "Lord of the Earth." Baal was believed to resides on Mount Zaphon. This is a strong reference because it is clearly stating that Lucifer is Baal and Baal is Satan.
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religion....free yourself, and religion means nothing.
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Apollo, you ought to read that extraordinary book by dr Jonathan Gray called: "The Hidden Secret", in which he among others clearly explains how rabbis in the past have obfuscated the historical date of Jesus the Redeemer round 20 AD as being the true Messiah as promised and named even in the O.T. as Yeshuah, as you'll probably know.
His Second Coming will be as the King of the Universe and no one will deny him in his Glory and Kingship.
That'll be when mankind is at the end of her mettle and all seems lost. I really recommend that book, also for the hermetic code of 7 in all of the four Gospels, not possible for ordinary man to duplicate .
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Must have escaped your attention with all your and others dazzling info, but I truly find this an astounding read, this "Forbidden Secret"by Jonathan Gray.
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Friend, Ive heard about it, thank you !Ill check it out...
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Is this Allah?

Allah/Sentinel Prime on the Moon.



Allah/Sentinel Prime vs Optimus Prime challenging him exalts himself as God above the other Gods on Earth.

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You are just another Anti-Christ , a dime a dozen ! You will gladly bow down and worship the Beast when he soon arrives on the scene !
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Matthew 10:34. "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

35 "For I have come to 'set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law';

36 "and 'a man's enemies will be those of his own household.'
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And crop circles are bs frauds and the star of David is just a Babylonian satanic symbol that had nothing to do with King David !
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And crop circles are bs frauds and the star of David is just a Babylonian satanic symbol that had nothing to do with King David !
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King David was born under two Grand Trines in the sky. It has tremendous energy and potential. This is what Magi look for.


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Matthew 10:34. "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

35 "For I have come to 'set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law';

36 "and 'a man's enemies will be those of his own household.'
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Yes, but when Peter drew the sword and chopped off the ear of the High Priests servant. Jesus told him to put the sword down..

Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword. 53 “Or do you think that I cannot appeal to My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54 “How then will the Scriptures be fulfilled, which say that it must happen this way?” Mathew 26
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Matthew 10:34. "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

35 "For I have come to 'set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law';

36 "and 'a man's enemies will be those of his own household.'
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Yes, but when Peter drew the sword and chopped off the ear of the High Priests servant. Jesus told him to put the sword down..

Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword. 53 “Or do you think that I cannot appeal to My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54 “How then will the Scriptures be fulfilled, which say that it must happen this way?” Mathew 26
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


So Jesus gave up, to make peace?

Luke 22
48 But Jesus said, “Judas, is it with a kiss that you betray the Son of Man?”

49 When the disciples who were with Jesus saw what was going to happen, they asked, “Shall we use our swords, Lord?”

50 And one of them struck the High Priest's slave and cut off his right ear.

51 But Jesus said, “Enough of this!” He touched the man's ear and healed him.

I was with you in the Temple every day, and you did not try to arrest me. But this is your hour to act, when the power of darkness rules.”
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And crop circles are bs frauds and the star of David is just a Babylonian satanic symbol that had nothing to do with King David !
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King David was born under two Grand Trines in the sky. It has tremendous energy and potential. This is what Magi look for.


:starchart:
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I have read that you don't know runes. The Seal of Solomon is a trinity of the Norse runes Gebo/Geba-Dagaz-Wunjo but the key to why Israel has be the "Giant Thorn" the side of the world is Thurisaz!

The so called Elders of Zion cursed their people when they sacrilegiously began using the Seal of Solomon. Solomon and ONLY Solomon was authorized to use this extremely powerful BIND-RUNE!

I and only I can undo the damage my beloved ones have done to themselves.
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Yes, but the the "Isaiah" passage in question does not connect, either historically or theologically, with the New Testament passages about the devil or the satan.

so not you failed to answer truthfully.

Also, Mount Horeb is not Mount Zaphon

Theodoret of Cyrus (c. 393 – c. 457) wrote that Isaiah calls the king "morning star", not as being the star, but as having had the illusion of being it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11519284


What do you mean the Isaiah passage doesn't connect to what Jesus is speaking of? Absolutely it does. They are talking about the same event.

And, what on God's green earth does Mt. Horeb have to do with anything?

And finally, who is Theodoret of Cyrus (sounds like an old SNL skit with Steve Martin) and why do I care what he has to say about anything?
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Good sir, what event would that be?
Just cause Jesus seen Satan fall from the sky as lighting does not mean the Isaiah passage is talking about the same thing, you don't understand Isaiah do you ?


Ezekiel 28
"So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God"

Isaiah 14
"I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon"

LOL
come on Satan, pick one mountain to sit enthroned on..
plus why would Satan want to sit enthroned on Mount Zaphon ?

that's just stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11519284


Mt. Zaphon is a reference to the pagan god Baal. Baal also bears the title of "Lord of the Earth." Baal was believed to resides on Mount Zaphon. This is a strong reference because it is clearly stating that Lucifer is Baal and Baal is Satan.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


WRONG
"Baʿal" can refer to any pagan god and even to human officials and also refer to any number of local spirit-deities worshipped as cult images, each called baʿal and regarded in the Hebrew Bible in that context as a "false god".

Good sir, you're currently talking about Baal-zephon, which is a Hebrew name which only means 'lord of the north'
Because more than one god bore the title "Baʿal" only the context of a text can indicate of which Baʿal 'lord' a particular inscription or text is speaking, regardless, the words themselves had no exclusively religious connotation, they are honorific titles for heads of households or master craftsmen.

so, why would Satan wish to sit on said mountain ?
Christian hermits were drawn to the mountain; Barlaam challenged its demons by founding a monastery near the
treeline on its eastern slopes, and Simeon Stylites the Younger stood for forty years on a pillar near its northern flanks until his death in 592.
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Honestly folks, If you dont see the wool thats been pulled over your sheeple eyes

Christianity and modern media has kept you veiled from Israel and the Middle Eastern plans of a Moshiach, and Mahdi.

Get your heads out of the Lucifer Heebie Jeebies childrens books and get into the real world.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Are you under the delusion that you are the only one awakened on this planet and everyone else is fast asleep?

Ego check, dude, seriously.
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Fast asleep to Jewish studies. How many Christians know what the Beis Hamikdash means? The one eagerly awaited?

Oh yeah, the Anti Christ is supposed to build that one. Give me a break !

G-d swore himself that he will build it. Many are challenging God that hes the Anti Christ

That is ridiculous, We are under the B'hesech hadaas. for sure. which is a time of forgetfulness.

Its not my ego when Im trying to teach others Hebrew and Aramic.
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YOU ARE RIGHT

so many may know

Madam Blavaski

Druid riqual Magic

Medicine Wheel teachings

Tibetian and Egyptian book of the dead

Western astrology

BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW OF AVRAHAM IBN EZRA'S "RAYSHITH
CHUCHMAH"

WHICH IS KABBALISTIC ASTROLOGY FROM ABOUT 1100 THAT COMPARES ALL THE SYSTEMS TO THAT OF OUR FATHER AVRAHAM

AND AS YOU SAY


Fast asleep to Jewish studies. How many Christians know what the Beis Hamikdash means? The one eagerly awaited?

Oh yeah, the Anti Christ is supposed to build that one. Give me a break !


WHERE SHOULD THE START

MAYBE HERE

Rabbenu Bachyah teaches us that he who acts with a faithful heart and pure soul his understanding will be illumi­nated. He will see the road to all high excellencies and the evil inclination will have no way to reach and seduce him. He will have the status of one treasured by God. There will be formed within him a new and unusual supernatural force, allowing him to partake of a permanent joy in this world and the next. Every hidden subject will become clear in his mind, and he will behold the true form of things with open eyes. The gate of high degrees will be open to him; the curtain between this person and the Creator’s wisdom will be rolled away, yielding divine vision. The exalted Creator will bestow Divine power on such a person. All this is the Glory of the Holy Exalted One. This is the good He bestows on His creatures, those who choose to come close to His Throne of Glory.



But it seems here we need to bring to mind the words of Rabbi Shimson Raphael Hirsch, who teaches that when a man endeavors to carry out not the will of God but solely his own he no longer has an eye for the Law of the All-One Whom all creatures serve. Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that when one sets out to serve God, One does not feel any accomplishments; one feels their worship is dry and life-less.

This will help take you there :

one should review his activities daily, seeing where he falls short of his potential and areas in which innova­tions may aid his divine service, as in the example given in the writing of our teacher Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzato, telling of one bringing the first fruits to the Temple. Of course, he chooses only the best fruits, he has an ox pulling a wagon bringing the fruit, the ox is adorned with gold on its horns and an olive wreath upon its head. The fruits themselves sit in a fine gold box. In a like manner we should learn to perfect each commandment that we perform.



Rebbe Nachman teaches us to make sure our days are very long. With each new day make sure the time is longer, fuller, richer with added holiness. Expand the days, filling them with more holiness and purity. In this way we will be perfectly united with our Creator in a revealed way, as it is explained in the Tanya of Rebbe Shneur Zalman, that the commandments are the inwardness of His Blessed Will with­out any concealment of the countenance whatsoever. The vitality that is in them is in no way a separate and indepen­dent thing but is united and absorbed in His Blessed Will, and they are truly one in a perfect union.



Just like it is written :



And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying,

“Speak to the people of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall you have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of horns, a holy gathering.”



This is clearly His Blessed Will with­out any concealment of the countenance whatsoever.





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Yes, but the the "Isaiah" passage in question does not connect, either historically or theologically, with the New Testament passages about the devil or the satan.

so not you failed to answer truthfully.

Also, Mount Horeb is not Mount Zaphon

Theodoret of Cyrus (c. 393 – c. 457) wrote that Isaiah calls the king "morning star", not as being the star, but as having had the illusion of being it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11519284


What do you mean the Isaiah passage doesn't connect to what Jesus is speaking of? Absolutely it does. They are talking about the same event.

And, what on God's green earth does Mt. Horeb have to do with anything?

And finally, who is Theodoret of Cyrus (sounds like an old SNL skit with Steve Martin) and why do I care what he has to say about anything?
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Good sir, what event would that be?
Just cause Jesus seen Satan fall from the sky as lighting does not mean the Isaiah passage is talking about the same thing, you don't understand Isaiah do you ?


Ezekiel 28
"So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God"

Isaiah 14
"I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon"

LOL
come on Satan, pick one mountain to sit enthroned on..
plus why would Satan want to sit enthroned on Mount Zaphon ?

that's just stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11519284


Mt. Zaphon is a reference to the pagan god Baal. Baal also bears the title of "Lord of the Earth." Baal was believed to resides on Mount Zaphon. This is a strong reference because it is clearly stating that Lucifer is Baal and Baal is Satan.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


WRONG
"Baal" can refer to any pagan god and even to human officials and also refer to any number of local spirit-deities worshipped as cult images, each called baal and regarded in the Hebrew Bible in that context as a "false god".

Good sir, you're currently talking about Baal-zephon, which is a Hebrew name which only means 'lord of the north'
Because more than one god bore the title "Baal" only the context of a text can indicate of which Baal 'lord' a particular inscription or text is speaking, regardless, the words themselves had no exclusively religious connotation, they are honorific titles for heads of households or master craftsmen.

so, why would Satan wish to sit on said mountain ?
Christian hermits were drawn to the mountain; Barlaam challenged its demons by founding a monastery near the
treeline on its eastern slopes, and Simeon Stylites the Younger stood for forty years on a pillar near its northern flanks until his death in 592.
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What do you mean the Isaiah passage doesn't connect to what Jesus is speaking of? Absolutely it does. They are talking about the same event.

And, what on God's green earth does Mt. Horeb have to do with anything?

And finally, who is Theodoret of Cyrus (sounds like an old SNL skit with Steve Martin) and why do I care what he has to say about anything?
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Good sir, what event would that be?
Just cause Jesus seen Satan fall from the sky as lighting does not mean the Isaiah passage is talking about the same thing, you don't understand Isaiah do you ?


Ezekiel 28
"So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God"

Isaiah 14
"I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon"

LOL
come on Satan, pick one mountain to sit enthroned on..
plus why would Satan want to sit enthroned on Mount Zaphon ?

that's just stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11519284


Mt. Zaphon is a reference to the pagan god Baal. Baal also bears the title of "Lord of the Earth." Baal was believed to resides on Mount Zaphon. This is a strong reference because it is clearly stating that Lucifer is Baal and Baal is Satan.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


WRONG
"Baal" can refer to any pagan god and even to human officials and also refer to any number of local spirit-deities worshipped as cult images, each called baal and regarded in the Hebrew Bible in that context as a "false god".

Good sir, you're currently talking about Baal-zephon, which is a Hebrew name which only means 'lord of the north'
Because more than one god bore the title "Baal" only the context of a text can indicate of which Baal 'lord' a particular inscription or text is speaking, regardless, the words themselves had no exclusively religious connotation, they are honorific titles for heads of households or master craftsmen.

so, why would Satan wish to sit on said mountain ?
Christian hermits were drawn to the mountain; Barlaam challenged its demons by founding a monastery near the
treeline on its eastern slopes, and Simeon Stylites the Younger stood for forty years on a pillar near its northern flanks until his death in 592.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9928228



You are correct about Baal-zephon, which is a Hebrew name which only means 'lord of the north'

This is referring to the mystery of the North

in the Chariot, The ox is on Northern side

It is said all evil has its source in the north

and is nullified to the "north"


This relate the the Red ox

The red Heifer that purifies from the (impurity) "tuma"

of death
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The islamic crescent moon is the symbol of the waning moon before new moon and it is the old symbol for the old Mesopotamian Moon God Nannar or Sin, this is the male Moon. The opposite is the waxing moon what leads to full moon, this is the female Moon and the Moon Goddess. There are a lot of Moon Goddesses in the ancient egyptian mythology.

The symbol of the waning moon is in islam with the symbol of planet Venus or the Goddess Inanna, the Goddess of Love and War, these symbols are very old and ancient and it is from Babylonian origin.

This is the morning star associated with the waning moon and it is a symbol of war, Babylonian imperialism.

The symbolism is hidden in old words and languages of the Middle East.

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