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What if Jesus would have taken the Devils Offer? by Apollo

 
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First time i read that babbling holy(are you kiddin me?) book i said to myself....."what they call satan seemed to want to help the humans, whereas the one they (vatican)call god loved the smell of burning flesh and mutilating, incest,smashing heads in etc....and yet the very one who tried to tell the humans they were in SLAVERY is condemned.
It is not too hard to figure out people.....you have been brainwashed so you will continue on in slavery.
Those who figure it out will move on to the next level while those think someone is coming to SAVE them are in for a rude awakening!
Good luck to you's and i do wish you well as you keep hitting the repeat button!
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Interesting deduction. They say the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world she doesn't exist. Wrong...the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that she was God and getting the entire planet to worship her anyway...and all she had to do was pose as a burning bush to one unsuspecting, hungry, dehydrated man in the mountains...
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Apollo, will the anointing you mentioned be televised or done in secret?

P.S. I believe the shampoo salesman was Paul Mitchell.
 Quoting: Mr Poopra


Mr Poopra ! Good question ! I wish I could have seen the anointing of the King in Old Jerusalem. I do know that Samuel anointed Saul and King David and then Elijah anointed Hezael

They say a prophet along the lines of Samuel and Elijah is to anoint King Moshiach with the original jug of olive oil that Moshe blended and then it will be a historical monumental moment in time.

They hid away the actual jug of oil to await the Moshiach. Its incredible that they are waiting for him now..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I still haven't had a chance to read this thread, but I thought he was anointed here-

Mark 1
9 In the course of those days Jesus came from Naz´a·reth of Gal´i·lee and was baptized in the Jordan by John. 10 And immediately on coming up out of the water he saw the heavens being parted, and, like a dove, the spirit coming down upon him; 11 and a voice came out of the heavens: “You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.”
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(facepalm) Did everyone overlook the condition Satan required of the offer? It was to bow down and worship him, essentially asking Jesus to abandon his submission to God and put himself under Satan. That's why Jesus replied in the way that he did. If Jesus HAD taken the offer, he would have been under Satans direction, and there would be NO perfect world. In fact, it might even have been a lot worse.

Seriously, people. Context.
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(facepalm) Did everyone overlook the condition Satan required of the offer? It was to bow down and worship him, essentially asking Jesus to abandon his submission to God and put himself under Satan. That's why Jesus replied in the way that he did. If Jesus HAD taken the offer, he would have been under Satans direction, and there would be NO perfect world. In fact, it might even have been a lot worse.

Seriously, people. Context.
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but it was a temptation, though , right?
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Apollo, will the anointing you mentioned be televised or done in secret?

P.S. I believe the shampoo salesman was Paul Mitchell.
 Quoting: Mr Poopra


Mr Poopra ! Good question ! I wish I could have seen the anointing of the King in Old Jerusalem. I do know that Samuel anointed Saul and King David and then Elijah anointed Hezael

They say a prophet along the lines of Samuel and Elijah is to anoint King Moshiach with the original jug of olive oil that Moshe blended and then it will be a historical monumental moment in time.

Ill get back with you on details when I make a post on this..But they hid away the actual jug of oil to await the Moshiach. Its incredible that they are waiting for him now..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I wonder how they plan on revealing him in a way that won't make him look like the freaking anti-christ. They have their work cut out for them. Or maybe that's the plan? I always had suspicions that Hitler was framed to a large degree and his image skewed after his disappearance. A sort of fall guy for a larger, more heinous conspiracy.

Then again, God keeps his promises and the Golden Age IS coming. I don't see how a nefarious individual will be "allowed" by the current energies to attain great power. I genuinely see things only getting better. After they get worse of course...
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Anti-christ shows up in the 6th seal, 6th vial, 6th trump.
We are still in the flesh!
If you pinch yourself, and it hurts...
whomever stands before you claiming
he is our true Messiah...isn't.

Our true Messiah shows up here on Earth,
7th seal, 7th vial, 7th trump...Praise the Lord!






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Pray For The True peace Of Jerusalem
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Apollo, will the anointing you mentioned be televised or done in secret?

P.S. I believe the shampoo salesman was Paul Mitchell.
 Quoting: Mr Poopra


Also too, Moshiach will ride on a donkey, Remember that Absalom rode in on the Kings donkey and he had a sad end..So the donkey ride was set aside only for the prophecied one.

Absalom rode on the king’s mule (II Sam. 19:9; I Kings 1:38; 1:44). The king’s mule was set aside for the king. Absalom knew if he was spotted on his father’s mule it would appear to the multitudes that he was now the king of Israel.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I thought that already happened too [sorry, wikipedia quote, don't know if strictly accurate. For instance, think "Lord"
might be s'pose to be in all caps]

According to the Gospels, Jesus rode a donkey into Jerusalem, and the celebrating people there lay down their cloaks in front of him, and also lay down small branches of trees. The people sang part of Psalms 118: 25–26 – ... Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. We bless you from the house of the Lord ....[2][3][4][5]

The symbolism of the donkey may refer to the Eastern tradition that it is an animal of peace, versus the horse, which is the animal of war.[1] Therefore, a king came riding upon a horse when he was bent on war and rode upon a donkey when he wanted to point out he was coming in peace. Therefore, Jesus' entry to Jerusalem symbolized his entry as the Prince of Peace, not as a war-waging king.[1][2]
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already on a donkey.

Next time on a horse?11 And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. 14 Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. 15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
17 I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, 18 that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”
19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them.
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(facepalm) Did everyone overlook the condition Satan required of the offer? It was to bow down and worship him, essentially asking Jesus to abandon his submission to God and put himself under Satan. That's why Jesus replied in the way that he did. If Jesus HAD taken the offer, he would have been under Satans direction, and there would be NO perfect world. In fact, it might even have been a lot worse.

Seriously, people. Context.
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but it was a temptation, though , right?
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It was, and it's also an illustration to everyone who reads it. The world and satan tempt everyone with what they need, want, or are already going to get, but the conditions for receiving those cannot be ignored. That's part of the point.
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why would he give the world to Jesus after taking it from Adam and Eve?
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I could never reach the question to provide an answer....it's like, what if Bluto had married Olive as opposed to Popeye?....oh, the points to ponder.5a
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The hypothetical question is ridiculous. Jesus isn't stupid. Satan is deluded.
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"WHAT GOOD IS IT FOR A MAN TO GAIN THE WORLD YET LOSE HIS OWN SOUL IN THA PROCESS"

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Apollo, will the anointing you mentioned be televised or done in secret?

P.S. I believe the shampoo salesman was Paul Mitchell.
 Quoting: Mr Poopra


Also too, Moshiach will ride on a donkey, Remember that Absalom rode in on the Kings donkey and he had a sad end..So the donkey ride was set aside only for the prophecied one.

Absalom rode on the king’s mule (II Sam. 19:9; I Kings 1:38; 1:44). The king’s mule was set aside for the king. Absalom knew if he was spotted on his father’s mule it would appear to the multitudes that he was now the king of Israel.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I thought that already happened too [sorry, wikipedia quote, don't know if strictly accurate. For instance, think "Lord"
might be s'pose to be in all caps]

According to the Gospels, Jesus rode a donkey into Jerusalem, and the celebrating people there lay down their cloaks in front of him, and also lay down small branches of trees. The people sang part of Psalms 118: 25–26 – ... Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. We bless you from the house of the Lord ....[2][3][4][5]

The symbolism of the donkey may refer to the Eastern tradition that it is an animal of peace, versus the horse, which is the animal of war.[1] Therefore, a king came riding upon a horse when he was bent on war and rode upon a donkey when he wanted to point out he was coming in peace. Therefore, Jesus' entry to Jerusalem symbolized his entry as the Prince of Peace, not as a war-waging king.[1][2]
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Hello friend, yes thats true about what Jesus did. In terms of Moshiach the goal of riding on the donkey will be to rise above chomer on the chamor.. Chamor is a donkey in Hebrew and Chomer is materialism.

He is to refine our way of life and to place the priorities in our life to G-d and to the laws .It is thru this sense we are elevated and redeemed.
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(facepalm) Did everyone overlook the condition Satan required of the offer? It was to bow down and worship him, essentially asking Jesus to abandon his submission to God and put himself under Satan. That's why Jesus replied in the way that he did. If Jesus HAD taken the offer, he would have been under Satans direction, and there would be NO perfect world. In fact, it might even have been a lot worse.

Seriously, people. Context.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20547354


but it was a temptation, though , right?
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It was, and it's also an illustration to everyone who reads it. The world and satan tempt everyone with what they need, want, or are already going to get, but the conditions for receiving those cannot be ignored. That's part of the point.
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I agree!

ps 133:1 Look! How good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
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already on a donkey.

Next time on a horse?11 And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. 14 Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. 15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
17 I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, 18 that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”
19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them.
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This is a warrior King , yes.

I know of Jesus or Yeshua Ben Yosef who in reality was a Father and a husband as all Jewish young men had to marry. He would never approve of this as his nature was peaceful.

However another one will under another name. But this account is not the same as the who preached in Jerusalem thousands of years ago.
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A intriguing question.. I want you all to think about what would have happened if Jesus took the Devils offer of all the Kingdoms of the world. He turned it down btw. But what if he took up the offer?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


If the devil owns all the kingdoms of the world, what difference would it make to us if he gave it to Jesus only to have Jesus serve under the devil?
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He is to refine our way of life and to place the priorities in our life to G-d and to the laws .It is thru this sense we are elevated and redeemed.
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What is "G-d"?
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you guys are sooo screwed and are going to be on leash in hell with your master masons the vatican god is the anti-christ the jewish jesus from the bible the man jesus the highest initiated one and once he comes than maybe after 1000 years you dumbasses will figure it out Christ was,is and will always be God he's our maker Christ made every single one of us he made the world he made the sun and the animals gosh a little child could figure it out that's why the masons want the baptism rite done on newborns
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A intriguing question.. I want you all to think about what would have happened if Jesus took the Devils offer of all the Kingdoms of the world. He turned it down btw. But what if he took up the offer?
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If the devil owns all the kingdoms of the world, what difference would it make to us if he gave it to Jesus only to have Jesus serve under the devil?
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Cause in theory it would have been his job to fulfill Isaiah and bring ever lasting peace to earth.
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A PLEA FOR MOSHIACH

BY APOLLO


Studies of the Hebrew Prophecies..


Moshiach is Hebrew for Messiah. Moshiach means the “the anointed one" in Hebrew. And it is a core belief in Judaism, but seldom learned by Christians of the West. Those that have faith in Moshiach feel it as strongly as Christians have faith in Jesus. The jewish people do not believe Jesus was the Messiah, rather they see the future Savior of Mankind as a great teacher, King and Soldier of Righteousness, "Tzedek" that influences our lives directly, making abudance touch wherever he touches and blessings to shower our material world and build his temple "Beit HaMikdash" We do not have to wait to out death to ever have hope of seeing Moshiach, Moshiach will not appear to us after we pass this earthly time, He is to come while humanity is alive and calling out !

"Tikkun Olam" is the healing of the world in the world to come, "Olam Habah"

You do not have to be a Jew to let Moshiach bless your life, cause he will free mankind into a state of bliss knowing their creator G-d who cannot have a name, He is the infallible one, the one whose name. (HaShem) is beyond our limited understand, but we may draw close to him none the less. He does not cast souls into hell. forbid the study of stars, nor say this earth is beyond redemption, G-d wants us to be happy now ! And enjoy the fruitages of earth now !

Here is the Belief number 12 of the Mainmonides Thirteen Principles of Faith That speaks of Moshiach

Principle XII. The era of the Messiah

And this is to believe that in truth that he will come and that you should be waiting for him even though he delays in coming. And you should not calculate times for him to come, or to look in the verses of Tanach to see when he should come. The sages say: The wisdom of those who calculate times [of his coming] is small and that you should believe that he will be greater and more honored than all of the kings of Israel since the beginning of time as it is prophesied by all the prophets from Moses our teacher, peace be upon him, until Malachi, peace be upon him. And he who doubts or diminishes the greatness of the Messiah is a denier in all the Torah for it testifies to the Messiah explicitly in the portion of Bilam and the portion of “You are gathered (towards the end of Deut)”. And part of this principle that there is no king of Israel except from the house of David and from the seed of Solomon alone. And anyone who disputes this regarding this family is a denier of the name of God and in all the words of the prophets.

Heaven is here on earth, The Tanach describes the temple.in II Chronicles.

3:3- "The length by cubits after the ancient measure was threescore cubits, and the breadth twenty cubits".
3:4- "And the porch that was before the house, the length of it, according to the breadth of the house, was twenty cubits, and the height a hundred and twenty; and he overlaid it within with pure gold."

And likewise , we shall have beautiful sound homes and dwelling places and food and peace when the Moshiach touches our lives and blesses us with the bounty. God did not want us to lack in anything .

QOUTE:

In every generation there is a scion of the House of David who has the potential to be the Moshiach



-Apollo
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He is to refine our way of life and to place the priorities in our life to G-d and to the laws .It is thru this sense we are elevated and redeemed.
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What is "G-d"?
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I think the Shema explains it well

Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai echad.
HEAR, O ISRAEL: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
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Re: What if Jesus would have taken the Devils Offer? by Apollo
you make it sound like it would have been a good thing

your a retard apollo, always have been


only reason your karma is maxed is your a snitch

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LOL, I have big karma cause I'm good. I post what people would like to respond to. I get people to think and I engage with them. I try and unveil all the religious teachings to show how united we truly are and in the end we will realize we all want the same thing.
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Nobody wants the same thing.
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Agreed.
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What if you where born a Christian? I guess I wouldn't be reading this nonsense.

STOP the blaspheming of our King, you are walking on thin ice with the Most High.

He loves the sinner but hate's the sin.

Grow up and take your right full place in the Kingdom of the Most High.
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don't be such stupid dumbasses this freemasonic jesus lover alien carpenter from the bible DOES NOT EXIST it's just the jewish freemasons twisting what happened this is what happened WE KILLED GOD AND HE'S NOT COMING BACK SO DON'T WORSHIP A HOLOGRAM it's going to make you feel so stupid afterward forever in hell on a leash being walked and fucked by moses
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already on a donkey.

Next time on a horse?11 And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. 14 Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. 15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
17 I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, 18 that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”
19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them.
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This is a warrior King , yes.

I know of Jesus or Yeshua Ben Yosef who in reality was a Father and a husband as all Jewish young men had to marry. He would never approve of this as his nature was peaceful.

However another one will under another name. But this account is not the same as the who preached in Jerusalem thousands of years ago.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I'll have to leave it here for now. Thanks for replying. You didn't have to do that, for lowly ac, recently unbaned,maybe heading back to bane, but you did.

Pretty sure I disagree, but hafta come up with smoking gun proving Jesus not married. that sounds arrogant though, as if I'll def. be able to.
For any facepalming at my stupidity, I'm really tired right now.
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don't be such stupid dumbasses this freemasonic jesus lover alien carpenter from the bible DOES NOT EXIST it's just the jewish freemasons twisting what happened this is what happened WE KILLED GOD AND HE'S NOT COMING BACK SO DON'T WORSHIP A HOLOGRAM it's going to make you feel so stupid afterward forever in hell on a leash being walked and fucked by moses
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In Christianity, we have an interpreter for angelic tongues. They work in pairs. demonic tongues should be made mute.
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Re: What if Jesus would have taken the Devils Offer? by Apollo
already on a donkey.

Next time on a horse?11 And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. 14 Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. 15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
17 I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, 18 that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”
19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them.
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This is a warrior King , yes.

I know of Jesus or Yeshua Ben Yosef who in reality was a Father and a husband as all Jewish young men had to marry. He would never approve of this as his nature was peaceful.

However another one will under another name. But this account is not the same as the who preached in Jerusalem thousands of years ago.
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I'll have to leave it here for now. Thanks for replying. You didn't have to do that, for lowly ac, recently unbaned,maybe heading back to bane, but you did.

Pretty sure I disagree, but hafta come up with smoking gun proving Jesus not married. that sounds arrogant though, as if I'll def. be able to.
For any facepalming at my stupidity, I'm really tired right now.
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hf Rest up my friend. God loves all his children...

I just wish more Christians knew their origins. I wish they studied Roman origins of their faith and ancient Judaism which is very different then Christianity .

See you again soon !
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Re: What if Jesus would have taken the Devils Offer? by Apollo
Didn't the Roman's take on Christianity, because they themselves were (or perhaps certain leaders) leaning towards its teachings? The one-God theory, or this new path was a clean slate - a new world order.

We often underestimate our ancestors intelligence and spiritual breakthroughs, and look for aliens for an answer for example. Since time is the ultimate barrier, or illusion which has been broken. (The last seal? Who can say?) I don't believe anything is truly hidden or veiled, merely twisted and re-created in similar forms.

Nothing is new under the sun, Apollo. It's been awhile old boy, have a cigar - you've still got it.
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What if Jesus would have taken the Devils Offer?
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A intriguing question.. I want you all to think about what would have happened if Jesus took the Devils offer of all the Kingdoms of the world. He turned it down btw. But what if he took up the offer? What would life have been like for us? This isnt meant to slander Christianity , nor Judaism ( I am not implying they are the devil ) but to later highlight the fact that in Judaism, the Messiah is expected to be a actual Priest King who would change peoples lives. Jesus was a pacifist, peacemaker and honorably could not nor would not be a warrior King. Violence would have had to be used to free countries from occupation that they did not want. In Jesus time. Israel was a Roman Occupation.


QOUTE: By the time of Jesus' birth, the Romans had established a two-tiered system of government consisting of Roman overseers and Jewish leaders who exercised control in the name of Rome. This was the system of power in which the family of Herod the Great grew to prominence. Although half-jewish people, the Herodian family was detested by the Jewish people for its tyrannical rule and also because of its key role in selling out the Jewish heritage to a foreign power. One of Herod's sons, Archelaus, was so brutal in his exercise of power in Jerusalem, that Rome replaced him with one of its own governors, Pontius Pilate, who was to play a significant role in the crucifixion of Jesus. Another of the sons, Herod Antipas, was responsible for the beheading of John the Baptist. It was the same Antipas who is accredited with the mocking of Jesus at his pre-crucifixion trial. (END QOUTE) [link to dlibrary.acu.edu.au]


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Matthew 4:8,9

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”



What a wonderful and benevolent government Jesus could have set up. How exemplary justice would have been. Maybe there would have been Habitat projects all over Israel for anyone who needed a home. And the proud, the rich, and the powerful could not have dominated their fellow citizens. As a twentieth-century governor and president I would have had a perfect pattern to follow. I could have pointed to the Bible and told other government leaders, "This is what Jesus did 2000 years ago in government. Why don't we do the same?" .

.-Jimmy Carter. 39th President of the United States. (1977–1981)



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This is probably the dumbest thread I have ever read on this site.
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Re: What if Jesus would have taken the Devils Offer? by Apollo
It wouldn't have made any difference...

Except for the ones who believe it would...

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