I'm concerned my wife drinks too much diet soda with Aspartame... | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57958 United States 12/29/2005 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That stuff is eating holes in her brain. You can thank Donald Rumsfeld for aspartame. While he was the CEO of Searle back in the 1980's he convinced the FDA to approve his poison. How Aspartame Became Legal [link to www.rense.com] "In 1985 Monsanto purchased G.D. Searle, the chemical company that held the patent to aspartame, the active ingredient in NutraSweet. Monsanto was apparently untroubled by aspartame's clouded past, including a 1980 FDA Board of Inquiry, comprised of three independent scientists, which confirmed that it "might induce brain tumors." The FDA had actually banned aspartame based on this finding, only to have Searle Chairman Donald Rumsfeld (currently the Secretary of Defense) vow to "call in his markers," to get it approved. On January 21, 1981, the day after Ronald Reagan's inauguration, Searle re-applied to the FDA for approval to use aspartame in food sweetener, and Reagan's new FDA commissioner, Arthur Hayes Hull, Jr., appointed a 5-person Scientific Commission to review the board of inquiry's decision. It soon became clear that the panel would uphold the ban by a 3-2 decision, but Hull then installed a sixth member on the commission, and the vote became deadlocked. He then personally broke the tie in aspartame's favor. Hull later left the FDA under allegations of impropriety, served briefly as Provost at New York Medical College, and then took a position with Burston-Marsteller, the chief public relations firm for both Monsanto and GD Searle. Since that time he has never spoken publicly about aspartame." ------ Sweet Poison - Aspartame Dangers Revealed by Janet Star Hull [link to www.sweetpoison.com] "Sweetpoison, written by author Dr. Janet Starr Hull, is a book exposing aspartame dangers. SweetPoison.com provides a variety of aspartame information including nutritional advice on aspartame detoxification, aspartame side effects and up-to-date information on aspartame dangers." ----- This is why I don't drink diet sodas. I don't want Rumsfeld's poison coursing through my veins. |
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Octo User ID: 13479 Finland 12/29/2005 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wnho.net] Start digging. Btw, aspartame will not help your wife lose weight...it's quite the opposite actually. Tell her that if she's not interested in scientific research |
A Nummo User ID: 57741 United States 12/29/2005 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Had a friend of a friend die from this recently. I think she was only in her early 30s. [link to www.newmediaexplorer.org] and [link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov] |
Tabbed for destruction User ID: 57963 United States 12/29/2005 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a cousin, mid-40s, that is a Tab soda junkie. Drinks it all day long, in a tall glass with ice. He carries six-packs of Tab with him whereever he goes!! He took a case with him on an overseas vacation!! He's a muscular guy but looks pale, drawn and sickly. Can't get thru to him... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55581 United States 12/29/2005 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell her that aspartame will prevent her from losing weight. It's the truth. Google aspartame and you'll find lots of good info. You can also tell her than when aspartame reaches a certain degree it turns to formaldehyde. I used to be a Diet Pepsi junkie, but I haven't touched the stuff since 1997. Since that time, I've become more physically active and I'm back to the weight I was in high school..105 pounds. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57972 United States 12/29/2005 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm 5'3" and I have a small frame. At 5'3", 105 is within the normal range for my height according to this chart. [link to www.rdsco.com] But more importantly, I know my body, and I just don't feel as good or have as much energy if I start putting on a few extra pounds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 240 United States 12/29/2005 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've lost 3 female friends because of this addictive crap. All 3 were hooked on the stuff. All of them died with brain tumors. 2 in their late 30's early 40's. The other one was in her 60's and realized it was from her diet soda addiction. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5897 United States 12/29/2005 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my wife is so allergic to the stuff, she accidently chewed a pack of juicy fruit gum over a few days. she thought it was like the old style gum, with sugar. it isn't any more. she had such a bad headache, i was getting the car keys to take her to the doctor, when she read the ingredients on the gum label. it contained aspertame. about 6 hours later she was better. the next day she was fine. amazing poison! |
AC User ID: 57980 United States 12/29/2005 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | QUADruple her life insurance ... and make sure she drinks a six pack a day!! Seriously, tell her about the risks and IF you do have kids tell her if she insists on drinking that stuff you REALLY DO need to get LOTS of life insurance on her while you can still buy it CHEAP. 20 Year Level Premium term insurance is CHEAP if you are in good health right up through the age of 50 (that is the type of term insurance where the premiums do NOT go up every year but are held level for the life of the policy). ($450+-/yr/$1,000,000 for someone in their mid 30's is what I have seen) (I personally picked up an additional $250,000 20 Year level term policy without even hitting the best health category from a top rated company just a few weeks before I turned 50 for only about $500/yr) A decent Rule of thumb is that for a middle class family where both spouses work you need AT LEAST $300,000 per child in insurance in this day and age, and probably should consider $400 - $500,000 if you are in a more middle of the road urban cost of living location. On top of that there should be another few hundred thousand for the spouse ... even if that "surviving" spouse is employed in a good job. Be sure to have it PAID FOR AND OWNED BY THE ONE WHO WILL BE RECEIVING THE BENEFIT (or the dad/mom if there are kids ... too much money early can ruin a kid) since that way it does NOT pass through the estate and is NOT taxed or subject to probate costs which can save some serious change. I am NOT joking about this since I also know of a mom with younger kids who now has brain cancer who was a diet soda junkie (I think it was the diet soda that is doing her in). Fortunate for that family there is LOTS of insurance ... but usually most mom's and dad's are terribly underinsured and when they kick the bucket and leave kids not only does the family have to deal with the emotional issues involved but there are also SEVERE financial consequences. Good luck ... BUT DON'T FORGET THE INSURANCE!! (Cheap now, you can't afford it once they are sick) AC |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373 United States 12/29/2005 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a cousin, mid-40s, that is a Tab soda junkie. Drinks it all day long, in a tall glass with ice. He carries six-packs of Tab with him whereever he goes!! He took a case with him on an overseas vacation!! He's a muscular guy but looks pale, drawn and sickly. Can't get thru to him... -------------------- The only problem with this is that Tab is made with saccharin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2268 United Kingdom 12/29/2005 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | check all products that u consume, eg drinks, chewing gum, sweets etc if we can boycot products with these artificial sweeteners maybe we can get sugar put back into them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26789 United States 12/29/2005 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes ASPARATAME is BAD why do you think coke suddenly started making diet coke with SPLENDA ... As far as studies go splenda is good for you and has no asparatame in it!!!>> I was at an all-day meeting with my colleagues recently. I only see them in person once or twice a year. Almost all of them were sitting around the table drinking Diet Coke. I looked on the label and aspartame was one of the ingredients. I didn't see no Splenda listed. |
Emerald Empress User ID: 520 United States 12/29/2005 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have good reason to be concerned about aspertame and splenda. Splenda (as well as all artificial sweeteners) are toxic. Stay away from them and use natural sweetners. If weight is a problem, cut out the sugar and fats and eat lots of raw fruits and veggies. Drink lots of water and herbal tea. [link to www.holisticmed.com] Splenda, also known as sucralose, is artificial sweetener which is a chlorinated sucrose derivative. Facts about this artificial chemical follows: Pre-Approval Research Pre-approval research showed that sucralose caused shrunken thymus glands (up to 40% shrinkage) and enlarged liver and kidneys. The manufacturer put forth two arguments in an attempt to claim that sucralose is not toxic: The dose of sucralose in the experiments was high. However, for chemicals that do not have generations of safe use, the dosage tested must be adjusted for variations in potential toxicity within the human population and between humans and rodents. In order to this, toxicologists estimate a variation of effects in the human population of 10 times. In other words, one person may not have effects until a dose of 10 mg per kg of body weight (10 mg/kg) is reached, while another person may have chronic toxicity effects at 1 mg per kg of body weight (1 mg/kg). In addition, it is well known that many chemicals are much more toxic in humans than in rodents (or even monkeys). For example, the chemicals that the sweetener aspartame breaks down into vary from 5 to 50 times more toxic in humans than in rodents. Therefore, toxicologists estimate a further 10 times the dose for differences between human and rodent toxicity for a total of 100 times (10 * 10). In order to estimate a potential safe dose in humans, one must divide the lowest dose in given to rodents that was seen to have any negative effects on their thymus glands, liver or kidneys by 100. That dose is then known as the maximum Tolerable Daily Intake (TDI) for lifetime use. Keep in mind that the TDI is just an estimate. Some chemicals are much more than 10 times more toxic in humans than in rodents (or will cause cancer in humans in low-dose, long-term exposure and do not cause cancer in rodents at all). A person ingesting the TDI for some chemical may find that it causes cancer or immune system or neurological problems after many years or decades of use. So, if the manufacturer claims that the dose was equivalent to 50 diet sodas, then the TDI would be one half (1/2) of a diet soda, and even that dose may or may not be safe. The manufacturer claimed that the sucralose was unpleasant for the rodents to eat in large doses. They said that starvation caused the shruken thymus glands. From the New Scientist (23 Nov 1991, pg 13): [Toxicologist Judith] Bellin reviewed studies on rats starved under experimental conditions, and concluded that their growth rate could be reduced by as much as a third without the thymus losing a significant amount of weight (less than 7 percent). The changes were much more marked in rats fed on sucralose. While the animals' growth rate was reduced by between 7 and 20 percent, their thymuses shrank by as much as 40 percent. Recent Research A possible problem with caecal enlargement and renal mineralization has been seen in post approval animal research. Sucralose Breaks Down Despite the manufacturer's mis-statements, sucralose does break down into small amounts of 1,6-dichlorofructose, a chemical that has not been adequately tested in humans. Independent, Long-Term Human Research None. Manufacturer's "100's of studies" (some of which show hazards) were clearly inadequate and do not demonstrate safety in long-term use. Chlorinated Pesticides The manufacturer claims that the chlorine added to sucralose is similar to the chlorine atom in the salt (NaCl) molecule. That is not the case. Sucralose may be more like ingesting tiny amounts of chlorinated pesticides, but we will never know without long-term, independent human research. Conclusion While it is unlikely that sucralose is as toxic as the poisoning people are experiencing from Monsanto's aspartame, it is clear from the hazards seen in pre-approval research and from its chemical structure that years or decades of use may contribute to serious chronic immunological or neurological disorders. Addendum (October 2, 2000) Occasionally, persons emailing ask questions about sucralose research. What follows is a copy of a response one such question. The answer starts by summarizing the aspartame (NutraSweet) issue and then addresses the sucralose issue. Let me start by saying that, as you may know, there is a quickly growing body of evidence demonstrating the toxicity of aspartame. This includes: Recent European research showing that ingesting aspartame leads to the accumulation of formaldehyde in the brain, other organs and tissues (Formaldehyde has been shown to damage the nervous system, immune system, and cause irreversible genetic damage in humans.) An extremely large number of toxicity reactions reported to the FDA and other organizations A recent report showing that nearly 100% of independent research has found problems with aspartame. Why is this relevant to the sucralose question? Similar to the aspartame situation 15 years ago: Pre-approval test indicated potential toxicity of sucralose. There are no *independent* controlled human studies on sucralose (similar to 15 years ago for aspartame). There are no long-term (12-24 months) human studies of sucralose's effects. There is no monitoring of health effects. It took government agencies decades to agree that there were countless thousands of deaths from tobacco. Why? Simply because there had been no monitoring or epidemiological studies. Without such monitoring and studies, huge effects can easily go unnoticed. So, without even addressing the pre-approval research showing potential toxicity, it is clear that sucralose has a) no long history (e.g., decades) of safe use, b) no independent monitoring of health effects, c) no long-term human studies, and d) no independent human studies. I would hope that the Precautionary Principle, now commonly used in Europe, would be a guiding force for people who are interested in health. Otherwise, we might as well just use any poorly tested, artificial (lab-created) chemical that has shown potential for long-term toxicity. As far as the pre-approval research related to sucralose.... As you probably know, pre-approval research is rarely published. It is only available from the FDA by filing a Freedom of Information Act request. However, you can see a very short summary regarding sucralose and shrunken thymus glands in the "New Scientist" (23 November 1991, page 13). It is very important that people who have any interest in their health stay aware from the highly toxic sweetener, aspartame and other dangerous sweeteners such as sucralose (Splenda), and acesulfame-k (Sunette, Sweet & Safe, Sweet One). Instead, please see the extensive resources for sweeteners on the Healthier Sweetener Resource List. He who thinks they are happy probably are, but he who thinks himself wise is probably the greatest fool |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 301 United States 12/29/2005 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | buy her some fruit flavored (no sweetner) mineral water ask her to try it for a week in place of the diet soda she won't go back, i promise you the mineral water actually helps to keep your body alkaline, which is the healthiest state the artificial sweetners produce an acid body, which is disease producing |
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A sCot User ID: 58013 United Kingdom 12/29/2005 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After warning those around me for over five years of the dangers of aspartame ( and being labelled a nut in the process) I am vindicated .. the british press, last week, ran a story which stated that aspartame was to be banned. yee haa I say and about time ... roll on the lawsuits and the bankrupting of all those companies that ignorned the facts for far too long. p.s. and who was it that was at the forfront of pushing this poison on the people of the world? check it out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 301 United States 12/29/2005 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stevia is a sweet herb powder which actually has health benefits, check it out here: [link to www.webvitamins.com] |
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