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What about the claims that nibiru was destroyed by tptb back in 2011. I remember hearing i think (might not have been him) stewart swerdlow saying tptb launched some missiles that was publicized to test hem on jupiter but the event supposedly destroyed nibiru, and thus why no nibiru doom on the given 11.11.11 date.
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Nibiru is alleged to be many times the size of Earth. Nothing we have would destroy a planet, let alone one many times larger than our own. If you believe NASA chuckle we can just barely launch a satelite the size of a car to our nearest planet. Anything further takes years to decades.
 Quoting: Resister


I just wanted to ask if anyone else has noticed the large fireballs being spotted with more frequency, the rumor was that Nibiru knocked some Kuiper belt objects out of place, displaced was the term used. I'm not suggesting it was blown up either.
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There have definitely been a lot of fire ball sightings so far this year. So much so, wasn't Feb-March declared 'fire ball season'? You know....to normalize it......
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I believe the bible refers to a the star of wormwood no? Any parallels to the matrix to be made with the constant collective amnesia of humanity if Nibiru was indeed real?!?! Just thoughts. I'm a believer. It sounds like the living might envy the dead if Nibiru enters our inner solar system. Exciting times
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Some people think so, but Revelation says "The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water, the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter"

That really sounds like a radialogical event affecting one side of the planet.

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What about the claims that nibiru was destroyed by tptb back in 2011. I remember hearing i think (might not have been him) stewart swerdlow saying tptb launched some missiles that was publicized to test hem on jupiter but the event supposedly destroyed nibiru, and thus why no nibiru doom on the given 11.11.11 date.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9565199


Nibiru is alleged to be many times the size of Earth. Nothing we have would destroy a planet, let alone one many times larger than our own. If you believe NASA chuckle we can just barely launch a satelite the size of a car to our nearest planet. Anything further takes years to decades.
 Quoting: Resister


I just wanted to ask if anyone else has noticed the large fireballs being spotted with more frequency, the rumor was that Nibiru knocked some Kuiper belt objects out of place, displaced was the term used. I'm not suggesting it was blown up either.
 Quoting: Mwalk


There have definitely been a lot of fire ball sightings so far this year. So much so, wasn't Feb-March declared 'fire ball season'? You know....to normalize it......
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Checked out the latest? Spooky, look how slow it goes, has to be large. From this thread. Thread: 9 aug 2012 fireball object ?.heading south


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I believe the bible refers to a the star of wormwood no? Any parallels to the matrix to be made with the constant collective amnesia of humanity if Nibiru was indeed real?!?! Just thoughts. I'm a believer. It sounds like the living might envy the dead if Nibiru enters our inner solar system. Exciting times
 Quoting: DWilliam


Some people thing so, but Revelation says "The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water, the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter"

That really sounds like a radialogical event affecting one side of the planet.
 Quoting: Resister


You should also see Rev. 6:12-14, Rev 8:10-12 speaks of Wormwood.
Amos 8:9 could be speaking of a pole shift.

Three days of darkness is in the Old and New Testament as well.
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What about the claims that nibiru was destroyed by tptb back in 2011. I remember hearing i think (might not have been him) stewart swerdlow saying tptb launched some missiles that was publicized to test hem on jupiter but the event supposedly destroyed nibiru, and thus why no nibiru doom on the given 11.11.11 date.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9565199


Nibiru is alleged to be many times the size of Earth. Nothing we have would destroy a planet, let alone one many times larger than our own. If you believe NASA chuckle we can just barely launch a satelite the size of a car to our nearest planet. Anything further takes years to decades.
 Quoting: Resister


I just wanted to ask if anyone else has noticed the large fireballs being spotted with more frequency, the rumor was that Nibiru knocked some Kuiper belt objects out of place, displaced was the term used. I'm not suggesting it was blown up either.
 Quoting: Mwalk


There have definitely been a lot of fire ball sightings so far this year. So much so, wasn't Feb-March declared 'fire ball season'? You know....to normalize it......
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So do you get your stupidity from your wife or vise-vera? Can't be true because he rides a bike...lmao. True or not, some people are so stupid that we need something to take the idiots out of/off this place called Earth. Something could smack most of the people in the head on this planet, and they still would deny it. Anybody who can not see that something is heating and affecting our entire solar system, is just in denial, and needs to open their eyes. Something is happening, whatever it is. Please add something or stfu. Thxs and sorry op,couldn't help myself.
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Ok, I even though I know the is going to hit the fan very soon, I'm not taking any mans word for it when he sell pics of him on a bike for five bucks, but I hope you got a good frame for yours
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I was a fence sitter until recently.


Now I am a firm denier of "Nibiru."

Why?

Because we most definitely would have seen it by now, in both hemispheres.

That is all, carry on.

BTW, John Moore has stuff to sell - as a poster has already stated.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


I'm still not a total believer but I heard it could be a brown dwarf or something or a neutron(neutrino?) star but I don't know if that came from Moore or someone else. I try to keep my sources straight. Anyway, that's supposed to be one of the few reasons or excuses of why we can't see it. Moore says you have to be in the Southern Hemisphere with a professional grade tele.

For what it's worth.
 Quoting: D'Light


I've spoken with multiple astronomers, and they all have said the same thing...

IF a brown dwarf/neutrino star were in our system, it would have thrown neptune and jupiter completely out of our system, and more than likely all the inner planets as well.

Those aren't the kind of things that just sneak up on you.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Near Earth Objects (NEO's) are asteroids that come dangerously close to Earth. We only have four, I believe, full time stations looking for these NEO's.

I would be more worried about an asteroid/comet strike than Nibiru/Brown Dwarf/Neutrino star.
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REALLY? You have spoken with multiple astronomers? Right. Just run in the same circle, huh? lol.
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I was a fence sitter until recently.


Now I am a firm denier of "Nibiru."

Why?

Because we most definitely would have seen it by now, in both hemispheres.

That is all, carry on.

BTW, John Moore has stuff to sell - as a poster has already stated.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


I'm still not a total believer but I heard it could be a brown dwarf or something or a neutron(neutrino?) star but I don't know if that came from Moore or someone else. I try to keep my sources straight. Anyway, that's supposed to be one of the few reasons or excuses of why we can't see it. Moore says you have to be in the Southern Hemisphere with a professional grade tele.

For what it's worth.
 Quoting: D'Light


I've spoken with multiple astronomers, and they all have said the same thing...

IF a brown dwarf/neutrino star were in our system, it would have thrown neptune and jupiter completely out of our system, and more than likely all the inner planets as well.

Those aren't the kind of things that just sneak up on you.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Near Earth Objects (NEO's) are asteroids that come dangerously close to Earth. We only have four, I believe, full time stations looking for these NEO's.

I would be more worried about an asteroid/comet strike than Nibiru/Brown Dwarf/Neutrino star.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason



REALLY? You have spoken with multiple astronomers? Right. Just run in the same circle, huh? lol.
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Yea, ya know, people with telescopes.

They are out there, believe it or not.

And I'm not talking about rinky dinky scopes either.
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I think John Moore's heart is in the right place but I do not trust his insider information.

99.99% of the time, if someone says, "I have a reliable source that I trust completely...", I don't.

With him the case in point is the August 14th disaster date.
 Quoting: Paddy


Aug17 is the date it's suppose to come in and then out on Sept 26. He said he's using it as a training exercise--top off preps, etc...so he's backing off dates but totally backs Nibiru being real.
 Quoting: D'Light


Yes, August 17th, thanks. I'm not convinced though. It is going to take more than a nice sounding radio talk show host to convince me.
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I don't think John is not convinced about the exact dates either. Those dates are what his trusted sources have told him to prepare for, not what scientist have told him there is solid evidence for.

Last week he had a two hour show combining his and another talk show host's (Mike Harris) about it. His idea of Nibiru and Mike Harris's info were incompatible for size alone. It is possible that his sources have been warned about something that is a part of the Nibiru system, but is not yet Nibiru itself. He speculated that it might be a large asteroid and that the military movements on the East Coast only suggest a Volcanic event from the Cannay Islands instead of a world wide event right now.

Time will tell.
 Quoting: Resister


I listened that interview a few days ago.

Mt. Hierro is a little popular right now. Eventually the threat will shift back to Yellowstone or Iceland or the Pacific Rim or New Madrid.

I think the threat of a entire mountain sliding into the ocean is so unlikely as to be absurd but even if it did there is still a lot of contention regarding the size of the tsunami that it would cause. The number cited are always going to an absolute and exaggerated worst case, proved by computer animation.

However, if the worst case is correct and it is expected to happen soon, government simply are not acting like it is. It is 99.99% business as usual.
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I was a fence sitter until recently.


Now I am a firm denier of "Nibiru."

Why?

Because we most definitely would have seen it by now, in both hemispheres.

That is all, carry on.

BTW, John Moore has stuff to sell - as a poster has already stated.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


I'm still not a total believer but I heard it could be a brown dwarf or something or a neutron(neutrino?) star but I don't know if that came from Moore or someone else. I try to keep my sources straight. Anyway, that's supposed to be one of the few reasons or excuses of why we can't see it. Moore says you have to be in the Southern Hemisphere with a professional grade tele.

For what it's worth.
 Quoting: D'Light


I've spoken with multiple astronomers, and they all have said the same thing...

IF a brown dwarf/neutrino star were in our system, it would have thrown neptune and jupiter completely out of our system, and more than likely all the inner planets as well.

Those aren't the kind of things that just sneak up on you.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Near Earth Objects (NEO's) are asteroids that come dangerously close to Earth. We only have four, I believe, full time stations looking for these NEO's.

I would be more worried about an asteroid/comet strike than Nibiru/Brown Dwarf/Neutrino star.
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Ok, but don't forget the fact that main stream science is problematic, at the very least, and is CONSTANTLY being either proven wrong, or forced to modify their theories, and still there's a whole lot of discoveries that are buried in the name of saving face for a NARROW MINDED main stream science community.

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I'm still not a total believer but I heard it could be a brown dwarf or something or a neutron(neutrino?) star but I don't know if that came from Moore or someone else. I try to keep my sources straight. Anyway, that's supposed to be one of the few reasons or excuses of why we can't see it. Moore says you have to be in the Southern Hemisphere with a professional grade tele.

For what it's worth.
 Quoting: D'Light


I've spoken with multiple astronomers, and they all have said the same thing...

IF a brown dwarf/neutrino star were in our system, it would have thrown neptune and jupiter completely out of our system, and more than likely all the inner planets as well.

Those aren't the kind of things that just sneak up on you.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Near Earth Objects (NEO's) are asteroids that come dangerously close to Earth. We only have four, I believe, full time stations looking for these NEO's.

I would be more worried about an asteroid/comet strike than Nibiru/Brown Dwarf/Neutrino star.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason



REALLY? You have spoken with multiple astronomers? Right. Just run in the same circle, huh? lol.
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Yea, ya know, people with telescopes.

They are out there, believe it or not.

And I'm not talking about rinky dinky scopes either.
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Did they talk about if it is an object that does not reflect light? Which I know, Astro-high school astronomy teacher says is impossible but there is a lot we don't know about our own planet much less interstellar space.
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I was a fence sitter until recently.


Now I am a firm denier of "Nibiru."

Why?

Because we most definitely would have seen it by now, in both hemispheres.

That is all, carry on.

BTW, John Moore has stuff to sell - as a poster has already stated.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


I'm still not a total believer but I heard it could be a brown dwarf or something or a neutron(neutrino?) star but I don't know if that came from Moore or someone else. I try to keep my sources straight. Anyway, that's supposed to be one of the few reasons or excuses of why we can't see it. Moore says you have to be in the Southern Hemisphere with a professional grade tele.

For what it's worth.
 Quoting: D'Light


I've spoken with multiple astronomers, and they all have said the same thing...

IF a brown dwarf/neutrino star were in our system, it would have thrown neptune and jupiter completely out of our system, and more than likely all the inner planets as well.

Those aren't the kind of things that just sneak up on you.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Near Earth Objects (NEO's) are asteroids that come dangerously close to Earth. We only have four, I believe, full time stations looking for these NEO's.

I would be more worried about an asteroid/comet strike than Nibiru/Brown Dwarf/Neutrino star.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


Ok, but don't forget the fact that main stream science is problematic, at the very least, and is CONSTANTLY being either proven wrong, or forced to modify their theories, and still there's a whole lot of discoveries that are buried in the name of saving face for a NARROW MINDED main stream science community.
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I agree, but for the sake of conversation - if we were to base this on the laws of physics as we know them - a large mass object such as the ones listed above - would've already wrecked havoc on our OUTER solar system.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just saying maybe it's on a different time line, like I've stated before, we're sitting around waiting for days/years, when it really is coming on it's swing in millennia.

If it's anything, it's an exo-planet that has a highly elliptical orbit. If it was a whole mini-solar system, we wouldn't be here having this conversation, trust me. There wouldn't be a Mercury, Venus, Earth or Mars.

Main stream science is constantly being proven wrong, and I'm all for new discoveries, nothing is set in stone, buuuut I'm pretty sure a mini-solar system won't be coming any where near us in the near future.
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I'm still not a total believer but I heard it could be a brown dwarf or something or a neutron(neutrino?) star but I don't know if that came from Moore or someone else. I try to keep my sources straight. Anyway, that's supposed to be one of the few reasons or excuses of why we can't see it. Moore says you have to be in the Southern Hemisphere with a professional grade tele.

For what it's worth.
 Quoting: D'Light


I've spoken with multiple astronomers, and they all have said the same thing...

IF a brown dwarf/neutrino star were in our system, it would have thrown neptune and jupiter completely out of our system, and more than likely all the inner planets as well.

Those aren't the kind of things that just sneak up on you.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Near Earth Objects (NEO's) are asteroids that come dangerously close to Earth. We only have four, I believe, full time stations looking for these NEO's.

I would be more worried about an asteroid/comet strike than Nibiru/Brown Dwarf/Neutrino star.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason



REALLY? You have spoken with multiple astronomers? Right. Just run in the same circle, huh? lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642


Yea, ya know, people with telescopes.

They are out there, believe it or not.

And I'm not talking about rinky dinky scopes either.
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Then why all the construction of HIGH DOLLAR infrared telescopes? Especially at the South Pole, that equipment is very sensitive, and they built it in the most harsh conditions on Earth, doesn't that raise your brow? And nobody you know owns that kind of equipment, the Amateurs are useless in this case. Hypothetically speaking of course...

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I've spoken with multiple astronomers, and they all have said the same thing...

IF a brown dwarf/neutrino star were in our system, it would have thrown neptune and jupiter completely out of our system, and more than likely all the inner planets as well.

Those aren't the kind of things that just sneak up on you.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Near Earth Objects (NEO's) are asteroids that come dangerously close to Earth. We only have four, I believe, full time stations looking for these NEO's.

I would be more worried about an asteroid/comet strike than Nibiru/Brown Dwarf/Neutrino star.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason



REALLY? You have spoken with multiple astronomers? Right. Just run in the same circle, huh? lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642


Yea, ya know, people with telescopes.

They are out there, believe it or not.

And I'm not talking about rinky dinky scopes either.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


Then why all the construction of HIGH DOLLAR infrared telescopes? Especially at the South Pole, that equipment is very sensitive, and they built it in the most harsh conditions on Earth, doesn't that raise your brow? And nobody you know owns that kind of equipment, the Amateurs are useless in this case.
 Quoting: Mwalk



True, true. It definitely peeks my interest as to the WHY the built an infrared telescope at the South Pole.

There could be something on it's way here, but I don't think its anywhere near us, yet.

I'm just saying, expand the timeline. Don't give it til Decemeber 21st, 2012, or even 2013.

You gotta give it like, 32,000 years, or 320,000 years.

I personally think we are the first civilization to actually be able to heed the warnings of the ancients and their cave paintings. Representing the black sun, and the havoc it plays on earth.

I do believe in an extinction level event happening, I just don't think it's any where near us, just yet.

The government won't tell you either way, they'll play dumb all the way up until the last day.

I just keep my BOB ready at all times, full tank of gas, and a small ration collection.

Something was brought to my attention, I might catch some hate for this, but remote viewers for see an EAST COAST disaster happening. I don't know if Moore said this or not, but that Canary Island/Volcanoe scares me, if that was to blow and slide into the ocean, we are talking MAJOR disaster to all of the American east coast.
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Here you go, this is how a Moon sized object following a Comet like orbit would appear. The audio is from the August 9th McCanney & Deagle shows. You would think with a Bright Comet Tail stretching out around 4-5 AU Someone would have noticed it by now. The tail is not shown at it's full length in the Earth based views because it is so large, if it were you would see a Giant Tail extending up from the Horizon after Sunset. At a conservative Absolute Magnitude of -6, it would be Visible during Daylight hours as well.

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Here you go, this is how a Moon sized object following a Comet like orbit would appear. The audio is from the August 9th McCanney & Deagle shows. You would think with a Bright Comet Tail stretching out around 4-5 AU Someone would have noticed it by now. The tail is not shown at it's full length in the Earth based views because it is so large, if it were you would see a Giant Tail extending up from the Horizon after Sunset. At a conservative Absolute Magnitude of -6, it would be Visible during Daylight hours as well.


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If John Moore's info is so "vital" to earth....then why does he charge for it?

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Here you go, this is how a Moon sized object following a Comet like orbit would appear. The audio is from the August 9th McCanney & Deagle shows. You would think with a Bright Comet Tail stretching out around 4-5 AU Someone would have noticed it by now. The tail is not shown at it's full length in the Earth based views because it is so large, if it were you would see a Giant Tail extending up from the Horizon after Sunset. At a conservative Absolute Magnitude of -6, it would be Visible during Daylight hours as well.


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I am sure there are plenty of objects in space that we have no idea how they operate and in fact operate opposite to what we believe.
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By Thomas O'Toole, Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 30, 1983 ; Page A1

"A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth
that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation
Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite."

I found this article online about what some call Nibiru. It was found in 1983. Others may have already mentioned it on other threads but I haven't seen it.

I have often wondered why RC Christian had the Georgia Guide-stones erected around the same time. The Rosicrucian society has vast knowledge of our planet and this to me indicates they know of a future event.

I have also heard that Nibiru is actually a space ship like planet and needs Gold to insulate the outer-shell from the Sun. Is that why all the Cash for Gold stores over the past few years are popping up?

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OK folks, it’s time for a grown up’s room. There needs to be a place where open discussion is not completely spammed to death by trolls and shills.

Are you a true believer? Fine. State your reasons and keep it civil.
Are you a hardened objector? Fine. State your reasons and keep it civil.
Are you crazy as a loon and want to post nonsense like telepathic communication with little green men from outer space? Limited posts will be tolerated just so we can laugh at you, but no spamming will be allowed.
Are you a hateful spamming troll? GTFO or be banned from the thread.

Sources will be updated/edited to this first post so everybody can look at one place.

John Moore’s radio show can be heard by subscription (about $5/month) here: [link to www.republicbroadcasting.org] Go to show archives, login (or create and pay for one), pick out John’s name and listen live or go to the date you want for archived shows. His website includes FREE info as well as things he sells and links to other prepper related sites. Want a link to the FREE military sea surface temperature map? A FREE PDF of a government study on EMP disaster? He has the link [link to www.thelibertyman.com]

There is a Youtuber out there who was editing commercials out and posting just the meat of the John Moore shows. His channel is called “ToDayPrepare”, but he stopped doing that a couple of weeks ago right after John Moore advised people that Military has told COG people to be ready to bug out soon because in his assumption, Nibiru might be passing nearby in a couple of weeks. [link to www.youtube.com]

Looks like there is someone else with a Youtube channel posting the John Moore shows now too. Goes by the name of urupiper2 [link to www.youtube.com]

Another FREE Youtube channel to listen to John Moore's shows. Thanks D'Light thumbs
[link to www.youtube.com]

More to come as needed…
 Quoting: Resister


I have seen some youtube videos of what John Moore has said but not many. I have also read more info about Nibiru but can't really name a source as I didn't pay much attention. Basically I googled info because I didn't know much about Nibiru and with all the talk I was trying to get an understanding.

I am one of those people that just plain don't know. I can't say with my own certainty that it is real or that it isn't.

Up until recently I thought the Nibiru stuff was complete bs and I didn't read too much into it. Seeing some of the things that have happened in the past year or so, I get a little afraid that something just isn't right. This crazy ass weather is worldwide. It seems like I see something bizarre is going on somewhere almost every day. One thing I do wonder is why wouldn't we see it already. I have heard that we won't see it because it is under us but I don't know.

I am glad you started this thread and I do look forward to reading a thread that isn't clogged with back and forth useless arguing.
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I think John Moore's heart is in the right place but I do not trust his insider information.

99.99% of the time, if someone says, "I have a reliable source that I trust completely...", I don't.

With him the case in point is the August 14th disaster date.
 Quoting: Paddy


last time Moore predicted with 100% certainty from inside sources that Canary Island tsunami within the week- funny how all those tapes are off line now.

Thread: WATCH OUT EAST COASTERS! Dr Deagle guest says within one week canary Island to blow!
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Why the worldwide earth booms?
Thread: Strange Sounds,Strange Rumblings, Sonic Booms, The Hum, Groaning, Earthquake Connection, Electromagnetic Voices, Post Your Recordings Here

Booms and quakes in Wisconsin?
Thread: Mysterious Booms in Clintonville,WI Explained. Failed North American Craton Rift is Opening Up. Post any BOOMS heard,in region, here.

Venus slowing down?
Thread: Venus Slowing Down - WTF!!??!

Why is Earths magnetic field going crazy lately?
Thread: NICT Real-time Magnetosphere Simulation is now shut down for good! "Web services have been terminated"! Very interesting!

Thread: MEGA BREAKING - NASA LYING ONE MORE TIME. Planet X... Magnetic Field/quake connection & Solar Storm DISINFO

Record drought?
Thread: BREAKING: EXTREME WORLD WEATHER! Apocalpytic Flooding. Record Droughts. Crops Destroyed Worldwide! Pole Shift!

Record heat?
Thread: July was Hottest Month in Contiguous U.S. Since Record Keeping Began in 1895!!!!! Crazy Times!!

Record Tornadoes?
Thread: Tornado Outbreak May Be One of Largest Ever Recorded in March

Bird and fish kills all over.. Like this:
Thread: ANIMAL DEATH: 900 Dolphins, 5,000 Birds Dead in Peru

I can go on and on with crazy Earth events.

*eedited out baseless insults*

The Earth is changing and changing more and more violently... That is obvious but what is causing it ?

More importantly why Is the government preparing like crazy?

Thread: ALERT! FEMA Plans! FEMA seeking Millions of Meals with GPS tracking for PRESIDENTIAL DECLARED DISASTERS, Disaster Housing Relief & Nuclear Teams

Thread: If Nibiru/planet x is not coming, then what is FEMA and the secret government preparing for

Thread: Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness

Thread: Obama signs National Executive Order permitting peacetime martial law.

The evidence speaks for itself.
You decide what it means to you.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21648859


You went to all that effort providing all that evidence (which is exactly what John moore does) that you didn't provide and answer to and then threw out a hateful insult and bs flaf on the guy offering a scientifically based explanation. Way to torpedo your own argument there Skippy.

Thanks for the bump and the links. Now get lost.
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Now I'm not a Moore groupie and I do have a few issues with some of the things hes put out in the last few weeks, but I have to say this in the guys defence...

It seems sooooooo many people try and debunk the guy and his claims on a single point, over and over and over, the same thing is raised and used to discredit him, that basically he makes money from this whole scenario. That he sells DVD's, posters, survival supplies and runs various adverts through his shows...

Okay, so he he makes money from his lifes work.

Sorry but if NASA turned round tomorrow and said this Nibiru is real, how many of you would go "hahhh, bullshit, they sell stuff so they're clearly lying".... Seriously have you seen the gift shops at Cape Canaveral??? Their internet gift shops? Have you seen how much shit NASA sells to boost their funding? The sheer amount of NASA 'brand' wears you can buy is mind blowing... So does that make them instantly frauds?

What if your President made a TV broadcast tomorrow and said Nibiru was real would you believe him? Or would you just say "Bullshit... its just a money making exercise, you cant believe him, they make money out of us through taxes. Have you seen those stupid stars a stripes badges you can buy on the White House tour, or the White House posters"

The fact is you will never get away from the fact, where theres money to be made, it will be made. End of. It doesn't automatically make someone a fraud, a liar or just peddling their doomsday wears.

If thats the best someone can do to discredit the chap, and if thats enough to rule out everything he says in your mind then I personally think those people are a tad naive.

I'm not saying Moores right, I'm simply saying if you were Moore, and you knew something was coming... what ONE resource would be most useful to your preps NOW if you had the opportunity? And does it make you a bad person for wanting to provide the best preps, ergo the best chance for your families and your survival?... Just a thought.

(Oh, and if you listen to his shows he regularly says to those who cant afford his DVD's etc he knows they are all on youtube and advises you watch them there for free if you want).
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Aug17 is the date it's suppose to come in and then out on Sept 26. He said he's using it as a training exercise--top off preps, etc...so he's backing off dates but totally backs Nibiru being real.
 Quoting: D'Light


Yes, August 17th, thanks. I'm not convinced though. It is going to take more than a nice sounding radio talk show host to convince me.
 Quoting: Paddy


I don't think John is not convinced about the exact dates either. Those dates are what his trusted sources have told him to prepare for, not what scientist have told him there is solid evidence for.

Last week he had a two hour show combining his and another talk show host's (Mike Harris) about it. His idea of Nibiru and Mike Harris's info were incompatible for size alone. It is possible that his sources have been warned about something that is a part of the Nibiru system, but is not yet Nibiru itself. He speculated that it might be a large asteroid and that the military movements on the East Coast only suggest a Volcanic event from the Cannay Islands instead of a world wide event right now.

Time will tell.
 Quoting: Resister


I listened that interview a few days ago.

Mt. Hierro is a little popular right now. Eventually the threat will shift back to Yellowstone or Iceland or the Pacific Rim or New Madrid.

I think the threat of a entire mountain sliding into the ocean is so unlikely as to be absurd but even if it did there is still a lot of contention regarding the size of the tsunami that it would cause. The number cited are always going to an absolute and exaggerated worst case, proved by computer animation.

However, if the worst case is correct and it is expected to happen soon, government simply are not acting like it is. It is 99.99% business as usual.
 Quoting: Paddy


There is evidence that it has happened before. The problem we have with imagining massive catastrophies is that we only live about 70-80 years and truely huge geologic events like that only happen once in several hundred or several thousand years or longer. Our whole modern society has developed without that level of disaster so it is easy to dismiss it as out of the realm of possibility.

Is it likely to happen tomorrow? No. Will it happend again soon? Possibly. We can't predict the weather for more than a few days ahead of time and even geologist admit that they can not predict major earthquakes or volcanic activity. The Cannary Island volcanoes are very active right now and are building up preasure. That is cause for concern, but we can't predict when it will cause a tsunami.

Just one large city in the US is to big to evacuate without an obvious undeniable threat like a Hurricane. The whole Eastern seaboard? They just aren't going to do that. They aren't going to bother with warnings either because it isn't possible to evacuate that many people and the threat is not as obvious or imminently trackable in plain sight like a hurricane is.

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I can't remember where I read this but it has been posted with a source that Neptune HAS tilted and something happened with Saturns rings. Is this true, idk but did read it and that would be something.
 Quoting: D'Light


There was a massive PDF file floating around online with a picture from the GLP observatory claiming saturn had tilted 90 degrees. They failed to realize that a camera on a telescope has an arbitrary rotation, you can rotate it any which way (not to mention field rotation - the picture was an early test shot before I came up there to properly polar align it). In truth, saturn has not tilted 90 degrees, that would be all over the news if it did. You can't keep that hidden, there are millions of amateur astronomers who would see that, but the only way to know what the orientation of a given image is is to either be the one taking the picture and knowing how your camera is oriented, or to astrometrically solve the image if stars are visible in it in order to find the true image orientation. The latter is something I'll present in a new thread later today.
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Honest question. What did the ancients see? The only was we will know if they were accurate is to see for ourselves. I would rather find out they were wrong though!

I listen to both sides. To be honest though I have Zippo knowledge of Astronomy, and I rely on info from people who are knowledgeable on this issue. Truthfully, the nay Sayers have the most informed info, and they back themselves up well.

But I still wonder what the ancients were seeing. I agree also though, that this thing should show itself or actually should have already shown itself by now.
 Quoting: Junie


Maybe the ancients are referring to Apothis, the asteroid that's gonna come dangerously close in 2034 or something like that...

I do believe that the ancients only en-scribed very important things, and a lot of pictures have been found, basically telling you to get to the mountains, when you see a vortex in the sky.

More or less.

With all the amatuer astronomers out there, we would've seen this thing for a long time now. You can't silence everyone.

Considering what the ancients pictured about - maybe this "just" happened, and we are the first civilization coming out of this great disaster.

So instead of it being on a 3200 year cycle, maybe it's on a 32,000, or 320,000 year cycle?
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


Here's one. 2012 DA14 I think. Video run down in page.
Thread: LINK--Asteroid comming toward earth. Valuable info inside.
 Quoting: D'Light


2012 DA14 is a distraction.

Here's what a real potential threat looks like:

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Seriously have you seen the gift shops at Cape Canaveral???
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That's run and operated by a private company, Delaware North. They have to get NASA's permission to operate, of course, but they're the ones raking in the profits. NASA's happy about it because they no longer have to pay a dime to maintain the visitor complex, it used to be a money hole.
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So does that make them instantly frauds?
 Quoting: AC

NASA generally doesn't make money through irrational fear mongering. Generally. There are exceptions that piss me off, so I'm an equal opportunity critic.
I'm not saying Moores right, I'm simply saying if you were Moore, and you knew something was coming...
 Quoting: AC

Honestly I'd just get the info out there, I wouldn't try to make money off of it. Maybe that makes me an idiot. Honestly I AM an idiot, in a way, for not using my talents to perpetrate a hoax that could actually look credible to those who don't know better or have a way to check for themselves. I could put hoaxers like the "skyview team" to shame if I really wanted to, and probably make money off of it. Money is not the reason I disbelieve Moore, however.
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Look I've been thinking about the video from Australia, that was posted on here earlier this morning (8/8). You could definitely see planets, What if this "Rogue Planet", or "Rogue Brown Dwarf Star", were actually a normal solar system like ours? Maybe some DOOM may come from, this meeting of solar systems, but I don't think that this is a total bad thing,this could be an opportunity. Something's there, and TPTB definitely want to cover it up and scare the hell out of us with DOOM, I mean that's all they have been constantly doing since Y2K.

So here's a theory I have, check it out:

Our solar system in universal proportions, is about the size of an atom on a universal scale, whereas our galaxy, is to compare with a complex molecule. Now in order for our galaxy to stay put and hold it's unity,it has to have counter-balances and weights, to create a balance, to hold it's form, and part of this force that holds it together is movement, centrifical force, which in thus creates gravity A.

Our solar systems rotates around the galaxy once every 275 million years, creating our solar system a seasonal variation, which quite possibly even helps to create our Ice Ages, though it seems that over the last 2 million years our Ice Ages have been a lot more frequent than that of nature (manipulation of climate ????????).

So as our solar system rotates around the galaxy, it should meet "sister" solar systems, rotating around the galaxy the opposite direction as us. Thus creating a counter-balance, which helps hold the galaxy together.

13,000 to 26,000 years would be a miniscule amount of time compared to 275 million years, instead of this Nibiru phenomena of the past, being a Destroyer or a Abaddon, we might wanna realize that the stories of the past that we have read, might not be the same object, but instead a neighbor, a"sister" solar system maybe someone should shout out at the surrounding planets around "Nibiru" and say,

"Hey we could use some help over here! We got these stupid extraterrestrial fucks hangin' out here for at least a million years who are playing God with us, and using their technology and fear to rule us and destroy us every 26,000 years or so, oh and btw they blew up one of our planets killing 10 billion people and deterraforming Mars! Some assistance would be appreciated!"

Maybe the reason that our civilizations "fall" every 13,000 to 26,000 years , is due to the fact, that the ruling extraterrestrials on this rock, are manipulating us to destroy ourselves so that we don't make contact with non-hostile,quite possibly civil neighbors that we meet along the 275 million year trek around the galaxy. rather on ever gaining sympathy or help from the galactic government, of the E.L.F. bombardment on this planet, ya know like an abductor who wants to keep it hush , hush, amongst the galactic community.

Just some food for thought! lol!
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Look I've been thinking about the video from Australia, that was posted on here earlier this morning (8/8).
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Let me guess? Neddy flanders?
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You could definitely see planets,
 Quoting: thebat

Jupiter and Venus, to be exact.
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I was a fence sitter until recently.


Now I am a firm denier of "Nibiru."

Why?

Because we most definitely would have seen it by now, in both hemispheres.

That is all, carry on.

BTW, John Moore has stuff to sell - as a poster has already stated.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


I'm still not a total believer but I heard it could be a brown dwarf or something or a neutron(neutrino?) star but I don't know if that came from Moore or someone else. I try to keep my sources straight. Anyway, that's supposed to be one of the few reasons or excuses of why we can't see it. Moore says you have to be in the Southern Hemisphere with a professional grade tele.

For what it's worth.
 Quoting: D'Light


I've spoken with multiple astronomers, and they all have said the same thing...

IF a brown dwarf/neutrino star were in our system, it would have thrown neptune and jupiter completely out of our system, and more than likely all the inner planets as well.

Those aren't the kind of things that just sneak up on you.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Near Earth Objects (NEO's) are asteroids that come dangerously close to Earth. We only have four, I believe, full time stations looking for these NEO's.

I would be more worried about an asteroid/comet strike than Nibiru/Brown Dwarf/Neutrino star.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


Ok, but don't forget the fact that main stream science is problematic, at the very least, and is CONSTANTLY being either proven wrong, or forced to modify their theories, and still there's a whole lot of discoveries that are buried in the name of saving face for a NARROW MINDED main stream science community.
 Quoting: Mwalk


This is so far from the truth it's not even funny.

What major scientific theories have been proven wrong? or had to be modified?

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