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This thread is a continuation of my previous thread:
Thread: OMG! Ancient Niniveh, the capital of Assyria is actually ....

In that previous thread I discussed my belief that the ancient city of Nineveh is actually Georgia and Armenia, and that the prophesied King of Assyria in Isaiah 7 and 8 will come from those countries.

I also discussed that this King will be called by God to invade Turkey, Syria, the Palestinians, as well as Jerusalem.

Upon discovering the identity of this future King of Georgia and Armenia, I realized why he needs to invade Israel and take control of Jerusalem.

What are the royal dynasties of Armenia and Georgia?

The Bagratuni, Bagratid or alternatively Pakradouni royal dynasty of Armenia was a royal family whose branches formerly ruled many regional polities of the medieval Kingdom of Armenia.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Surprisingly (or maybe expectedly), this royal dynasty is related to the Georgian royal dynasty of Bagrationi.

The Bagrationi Royal Dynasty was the ruling family of Georgia.

According to a family legend, taken down by the 11th century Georgian chronicler Sumbat Davitis-Dze, and supplied much later by Prince Vakhushti Bagrationi with chronological data, the ancestors of the dynasty traced their descent to the biblical king and prophet David and came from Palestine around 530 AD.

Tradition has it that of seven refugee brothers of the Davidic line, three of them settled in Armenia and the other four arrived in Kartli (a major Georgian region also known as Iberia by Classical authors) where they intermarried with the local ruling houses and acquired some lands in hereditary possession.

One of the four brothers, Guaram, allegedly gave an origin to a line subsequently called Bagrationi after his son Bagrat. A successor, Guaram, was installed as a presiding prince of Kartli under the Byzantine protectorate and bestowed, on this occasion, with the Byzantine court title of Kouropalates in 575. Thus, according to this version, began the dynasty of the Bagratids, who ruled until 1801.

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The ancestors of the Armenian-Georgian family of Bagration, the first family entered in the list of the Russian nobility (published by Count Aleksandr Bobrinsky, under the title "Dvoryanskie Rody," St. Petersburg, 1890).

The Bagratians or Bagratuni claim to be descendants of King David of Israel. Moses of Chorene wrote his "History of Armenia" at the request of Isaac Bagration (Sahak Bagratuni) in the middle of the fifth century. This historian gathered his information from the Syrian historian Mar Abbas Katina, who, according to Emin, lived about 150 B.C., and, according to others, in the third century C.E. Moses states that King Hracheye (fierce eyes) joined Nebuchadnezzar in his first campaign against the jewish people, and took part in the siege of Jerusalem. From among the captives he selected the distinguished Jewish chief Shambat or Smbat (Sabbat) and brought him with his family to Armenia. From this Shambat the Bagratuni claim descent;

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George XII, sometimes known as George XIII, of the House of Bagrationi, was the last king of Georgia (Kingdom of Kartli and Kakheti) from 1798 until his death in 1800.
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Currently, there are 2 branches of the Bagrationi dynasty fighting for the right of succession in case the monarchy of Georgia is reestablished, and they are the Royal Bagrationi House of Mukhrani and the Royal Bagrationi House of Gruzinsky.

In 1942 Prince Irakli Bagrationi-Mukhraneli, of the genealogically senior branch of the dynasty, proclaimed himself Head of the Royal House of Georgia, in the absence of evidence that Bagrationis of the Kakhetian branch (which had reigned until 1801) still survived in the Soviet Union.
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Prince Nugzar Petrovich Bagration-Gruzinski is the most senior, known patrilineal descendant of Georgia's last king, George XII and is, as such, head of the Kakhetian branch of the dynasty which, although genealogically junior to the Mukhranelis, has reigned more recently, not having lost the throne of Georgia until 1800.

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Prince Nugzar's daughter, Princess Anna, married Prince David Bagrationi-Mukhraneli, on 8 February 2009 at the Tbilisi Sameba Cathedral. The marriage united the Gruzinsky and Mukhrani branches of the Georgian royal family, and drew a crowd of 3,000 spectators, officials, and foreign diplomats, as well as extensive coverage by the Georgian media.

The dynastic significance of the wedding lay in the fact that, amidst the turmoil in political partisanship that has roiled Georgia since its independence in 1991, Patriarch Ilia II of Georgia publicly called for restoration of the monarchy as a path toward national unity in October 2007.

Although this led some politicians and parties to entertain the notion of a Georgian constitutional monarchy, competition arose among the old dynasty's princes and supporters, as historians and jurists debated which Bagrationi has the strongest hereditary right to a throne that has been vacant for two centuries. Although some Georgian monarchists support the Gruzinsky branch's claim, others support that of the re-patriated Mukhrani branch.

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Prince David and Princess Anna became the parents of a baby boy on September 27, 2011, Prince Giorgi Bagration Bagrationi who, in his person, potentially unites the Mukhraneli and Gruzinsky claims. If no other Bagrationi prince is born in either the Gruzinsky or Mukhraneli branch who is of senior descent by primogeniture, and he survives those now living, Prince Giorgi will become the heir male of the House of Bagrationi and the heir general of George XIII of Georgia .

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I believe Prince Giorgi Bagration Bagrationi is the child in Isaiah 8 which will portend the future invasion of Damascus and the Palestinians by the King of Assyria/Georgia.

1 Moreover the Lord said unto me, Take thee a great roll, and write in it with a man's pen concerning Mahershalalhashbaz.

2 And I took unto me faithful witnesses to record, Uriah the priest, and Zechariah the son of Jeberechiah.

3 And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived, and bare a son. Then said the Lord to me, Call his name Mahershalalhashbaz.

4 For before the child shall have knowledge to cry, My father, and my mother, the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria shall be taken away before the king of Assyria.
 Quoting: Isaiah 8
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Prince David, the father of Prince Giorgi Bagration Bagrationi, settled permanently in Georgia’s capital of Tbilisi in 2003 and obtained dual citizenship from Georgia in 2004. He also serves as an altar server to Ilia II, Catholicos-Patriarch of All Georgia.

As Head of the Royal family, he is the Grand Master of the following Bagration dynastic orders:

- Order of the Eagle of Georgia and the Seamless Tunic of Our Lord Jesus Christ
- Order of the Saint Queen Tamar
- Order of the Crown of Georgia

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Since God is the one calling the King of Assyria/Georgia to invade other countries, I believe the King will do so with religious fervor.
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I believe Prince David of Georgia will restore the Kingdom of Jerusalem under the supervision of the Georgian Orthodox Church.

The Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was a Catholic kingdom established in the Levant in 1099 after the First Crusade. The kingdom lasted nearly two hundred years, from 1099 until 1291 when the last remaining possession, Acre, was destroyed by the Mamluks, but its history is divided into two distinct periods. The first kingdom lasted from 1099 to 1187, when it was almost entirely overrun by Saladin.

After the subsequent Third Crusade, the kingdom was re-established in Acre in 1192, and lasted until that city's destruction. This second kingdom is sometimes called the Kingdom of Acre.

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Interesting, so will prince David or his baby son end up as the anti-christ, the fierce king, the evil Assyrian? And what about that prophecy of his eye darkened and arm wound?
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Zechariah 11:17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock: the sword shall be upon his are, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

Also who are the 3 shepherds who were/are/or both cut off in one month?
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Who is the future Tsar of Russia?

I believe he will be Grand Duke George Mikhailovich of Russia.

Grand Duke George Mikhailovich of Russia (born 13 March 1981) is the heir apparent to Maria Vladimirovna, Grand Duchess of Russia, a claimant to the disputed Headship of the Imperial Family of Russia.

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Maria Vladimirovna, Grand Duchess of Russia, has been a claimant to the headship of the Imperial Family of Russia and pretender to the titles Empress and Autocrat of All the Russias.

Maria Vladimirovna was born in Madrid, the only child of Vladimir Kirillovich, Grand Duke of Russia, Head of the Imperial Family of Russia and titular Emperor of Russia, and Princess Leonida Bagration-Mukhrani

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Grand Duke George Mikhailovich's maternal grandmother Leonida Georgievna, Grand Duchess of Russia, was a daughter of Prince George Bagration of Mukhrani.

Born on 6 October 1914, in Tiflis, Georgia, Russian Empire as Princess Leonida Bagration of Mukhrani, she was a daughter of Prince George Bagration of Mukhrani and his Polish wife Helena Sigismundovna. She descended patrilineally from former Kings of Georgia.

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Thus, the future Tsar of Russia will be related to the future King of Georgia, Armenia, and Jerusalem.
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Interesting, so will prince David or his baby son end up as the anti-christ, the fierce king, the evil Assyrian? And what about that prophecy of his eye darkened and arm wound?
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The King of Assyria/Georgia will not claim to be the Messiah, he is after all a devout christian and follower of Christ.

He will only seek to control Jerusalem to stop the fighting between Israel and the Palestinians. And since he is a descendant of King David, he has to right to do so, at least until Christ returns.
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Whatever the King of Assyria/Georgia will do after getting control of Jerusalem, is something which I have not yet fully contemplated on. Will he remain faithful to Christ or will he become puffed up in pride and become an antichrist?

However, I do believe that his futuure invasion of Israel is something which God has willed, and therefore will succeed.
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This thread is a continuation of my previous thread:
Thread: OMG! Ancient Niniveh, the capital of Assyria is actually ....

In that previous thread I discussed my belief that the ancient city of Nineveh is actually Georgia and Armenia, and that the prophesied King of Assyria in Isaiah 7 and 8 will come from those countries.

I also discussed that this King will be called by God to invade Turkey, Syria, the Palestinians, as well as Jerusalem.

Upon discovering the identity of this future King of Georgia and Armenia, I realized why he needs to invade Israel and take control of Jerusalem.

What are the royal dynasties of Armenia and Georgia?

The Bagratuni, Bagratid or alternatively Pakradouni royal dynasty of Armenia was a royal family whose branches formerly ruled many regional polities of the medieval Kingdom of Armenia.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: wikipedia


Surprisingly (or maybe expectedly), this royal dynasty is related to the Georgian royal dynasty of Bagrationi.

The Bagrationi Royal Dynasty was the ruling family of Georgia.

According to a family legend, taken down by the 11th century Georgian chronicler Sumbat Davitis-Dze, and supplied much later by Prince Vakhushti Bagrationi with chronological data, the ancestors of the dynasty traced their descent to the biblical king and prophet David and came from Palestine around 530 AD.

Tradition has it that of seven refugee brothers of the Davidic line, three of them settled in Armenia and the other four arrived in Kartli (a major Georgian region also known as Iberia by Classical authors) where they intermarried with the local ruling houses and acquired some lands in hereditary possession.

One of the four brothers, Guaram, allegedly gave an origin to a line subsequently called Bagrationi after his son Bagrat. A successor, Guaram, was installed as a presiding prince of Kartli under the Byzantine protectorate and bestowed, on this occasion, with the Byzantine court title of Kouropalates in 575. Thus, according to this version, began the dynasty of the Bagratids, who ruled until 1801.

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The ancestors of the Armenian-Georgian family of Bagration, the first family entered in the list of the Russian nobility (published by Count Aleksandr Bobrinsky, under the title "Dvoryanskie Rody," St. Petersburg, 1890).

The Bagratians or Bagratuni claim to be descendants of King David of Israel. Moses of Chorene wrote his "History of Armenia" at the request of Isaac Bagration (Sahak Bagratuni) in the middle of the fifth century. This historian gathered his information from the Syrian historian Mar Abbas Katina, who, according to Emin, lived about 150 B.C., and, according to others, in the third century C.E. Moses states that King Hracheye (fierce eyes) joined Nebuchadnezzar in his first campaign against the jewish people, and took part in the siege of Jerusalem. From among the captives he selected the distinguished Jewish chief Shambat or Smbat (Sabbat) and brought him with his family to Armenia. From this Shambat the Bagratuni claim descent;

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Mt family line goes to King Aroandes II of Armenia a/k/s Orontes about 400 BC. His maternal line went to King Darius of Persia. I do not know about Gerogia.

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Mt family line goes to King Aroandes II of Armenia a/k/s Orontes about 400 BC. His maternal line went to King Darius of Persia. I do not know about Gerogia.

Aroandes II of /Armenia/
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kings aren't taken seriously any more
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Vladimir Putin is God's Anointed Orthodox Autocratic Tsar !!!

Yes, His kingdom [God's Kingdom] will include Georgia, Armenia, Jerusalem among many, many others.



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Vladimir Putin is God's Anointed Orthodox Autocratic Tsar !!!

Yes, His kingdom [God's Kingdom] will include Georgia, Armenia, Jerusalem among many, many others.



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I may be wrong, but I believe Putin may be the angel seen by this Greek monk at 3:00 of the video ;-)

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OP, can you post what it says about the angel ?

My system has a problem with youtube videos.



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Some good connections there OP, thnx for the interesting read. Something is definitely up in the Caucasus region the last 5 years.
Georgian orthodox church won't rule Jerusalem for sure, they just have a patriarchate for their own nation and are under jurisdiction of the ecumenical patriarchate of Constantinople which is to orthodoxy what Vatican is for catholicism.

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When God's Anointed King, Cyrus, conquered the Babylonian empire
and became 'King of the earth' [Ezra 1:2], he returned Babylon's
captives back to their native lands and set up governors from
among them [governors loyal to Cyrus, of course.]

For example, Cyrus set up a prince from the line of David to
rule over Judah [Cyrus also decreed the rebuilding of the temple
in Jerusalem.]

This was in contrast to Babylon who used foreign governors to rule their subject nations.



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OP posted:

" Who is the future Tsar of Russia?

I believe he will be Grand Duke George Mikhailovich of Russia. "

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A Romanov born and raised in the perverted west ?

The whole point of coming out of Babylon is not to carry it in your heart and return back to it.

I would be extremely disappointed of this happened.


Fortunately, I know otherwise.

Vladimir Putin is God's Anointed Tsar !!!



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Op what is it about you Christians who think "GOD" calls for invasions????? You are helping the putin thing here to set up a new MEME on the web. NO THANKS.
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When God's Anointed King, Cyrus, conquered the Babylonian empire
and became 'King of the earth' [Ezra 1:2], he returned Babylon's
captives back to their native lands and set up governors from
among them [governors loyal to Cyrus, of course.]

For example, Cyrus set up a prince from the line of David to
rule over Judah [Cyrus also decreed the rebuilding of the temple
in Jerusalem.]

This was in contrast to Babylon who used foreign governors to rule their subject nations.



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God doesn't annoint Kings, How many gods have you seen in the OT? MANY.
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Margaret Smith [where have I heard that name before ?]:

As I have already told you on another topic when you said something equally ignorant,
God does indeed anoint men to do God's Will.

Isaiah 45 says God anointed Cyrus, God's King who conquered Babylon.

God told His prophet, Samuel, to anoint David who would replace Saul as king of Israel.

The kings of Israel were anointed as were the Tsars of Holy Russia, God's Third Rome.



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OP, can you post what it says about the angel ?

My system has a problem with youtube videos.



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[link to www.youtube.com]

The Greek monk said about the armies that will gather at Constantinople:

"An angel will appear from the sky and impose them sedation and they will lose their minds, not become crazy, but will inspire implacable hatred. They will want to kill each other.

Then the angel will sensibly appear no longer just with voice and say 'Stop, revenge is enough'!"

This scenario reminds me of Nostradamus' prophecy regarding the King of Terror that will be seen from the sky:

Signs in the heavens have heralded Vladimir Putin's rise to power.

According to the Russian Orthodox Church's Julian calendar
[the Julian calendar was the calendar Nostradamus used],
this mystery man, Vladimir Putin, first appeared on the
world scene July 1999 when Yeltsin appointed Him Prime Minister.

Nostradamus had predicted a mighty king would come from
heaven... "seventh month 1999"... and so He did.

C 10 Q 72

The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of the Angolmois,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.
g planetary alignment.

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Vladimir Putin may be the "King of Terror" who will re-establish the monarchies of Russia, Goergia, and Armenia.
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OP, if you liked my topic about Vladimir Putin and the Signs in the Heavens enough to quote it,
then hear what I am telling you now.


Vladimir Putin is God's Anointed Orthodox Autocratic Tsar !!!


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OP, if you liked my topic about Vladimir Putin and the Signs in the Heavens enough to quote it,
then hear what I am telling you now.


Vladimir Putin is God's Anointed Orthodox Autocratic Tsar !!!


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He will also be King ;-)
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Not "also king"; Vladimir Putin is God's Anointed Tsar !

Vladimir Putin is God's new Cyrus, God's new David.

August 1993 God told me that He would raise up His Anointed One
in Russia to be His new Cyrus, His new David.

That same year Vladimir Putin had His baptismal cross blessed
at our Lord's tomb in the Holy Land.



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Not "also king"; Vladimir Putin is God's Anointed Tsar !

Vladimir Putin is God's new Cyrus, God's new David.

August 1993 God told me that He would raise up His Anointed One
in Russia to be His new Cyrus, His new David.

That same year Vladimir Putin had His baptismal cross blessed
at our Lord's tomb in the Holy Land.



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Do you know if Putin is a descendant of King David?
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God knows.


I will tell you this.

The antichrist synagogue of satan who now occupy and pervert
God's Holy Land are NOT descendants of King David. They are
not Israelites. They are Edomites who have usurped and perverted
the name, Israel, and have maliciously stolen the ancient land of Israel.


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