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Nibiru - Why it can't be seen by everyone else. Why is it not there, right now, next our Sun on a nice clear day?

 
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Every one calls B.S. on Nibiru because, obviously when we all step outside on a nice clear, sunny day and look up, we don't see anything else other then our own Sun...

Or, there is the case where amateur astronomers such as myself, who have powerful Solar filters for our Telescopes that lets us view the Sun safely with our telescopes, and yet we still do not see any "second sun" or other mysterious object out there.

Why is this?

The answer is simple.

Nibiru, or Planet X, or whatever it is; is not actually orbiting on our own solar elliptic. Meaning, its not aligned with the rest of the planets.

Similar to how Pluto is offset, yet we can still see it along with all the others because its offset is only to a minor degree; so we still see it traveling through the sky along the same line as all the other planets, our own moon and even our sun.

Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis.

After it passes, it will pass to the north, and swing around the sun and then shoot back out into space, but not before its binary orbit with or sun causes dramatic changes in the solar system.

We can see these changes in our own sun right now as its approaching.

The sun is moving across the sky faster, and it is rising and setting in vastly different locations compared to where it was 2 or 3 years ago.

I sit in an office, with a window that faces out directly west. I see the sun setting behind the same trees, and same building, every day.

For the past 3 years, the point where it slip beneath the tree line, has moved nearly a full 5 feet of distance from one side of the window, to the other side of the window...

This is because, like every binary out there, with the two come close to converging, they speed up and swing rapidly around each other.

Its like this.

Tie a Ball to a piece of string, and stand in one spot and swing it around you as though you were the sun, and it were orbiting you.

Once every orbit, speed up your swing and then relax it, and keep doing that... the ball spins around you but once every orbit it speds up, and then slows, and then speds up, and then slows...

With a binary solar system, both of the binarys do this speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down; as they approach each other. In our case, this happens on a period of thousands of years. But then the actual "swing" where their orbits converge and cause them both to rapidly speed up as they swing through each others orbital path and slip into the inside of each others orbit for a very short period; which to us on Earth can last only a matter of months, if not a full year...

Our Sun, and whatever Nibiru is, will be inside each others orbits before the end of 2012. When they finally do pass to the inside of each others orbits, this is the point where they rapidly swing back around and then pass once more to the outside of each others orbits.

But once their on the inside...

THEN...

We ALL, will start seeing some exciting things happening in our sky!

It won't last long, and then they'll pass through each others orbits once more, and both will again be on the outside of each others orbits and now moving away from each other with Nibiru or whatever it is, seemingly swinging back and reversing its direction in our sky and now moving away from us along our southern polar axis until it is gone again...

We see our Sun rise and set every day, from the east, to the west...

This will not be the case with Nibiru.

It will rise, and set, from the south, to the north; and then from the north to the south, as it swings around our Sun and this will last only a very short period of time, and then it will be gone again. It may remain visible from the southern tips of South America and Africa for a short while longer, and probably still from the southern coast of Australia, but eventually it will be gone from their horizons as well and will never be seen again for thousands of years...

This is why, most of us in the more modern nations of the Northern Hemispehere always call B.S. on these claims because we can't see it yet... it hasn't "risen" from over our horizon yet...

Its likely still not yet even risen over the horizons of the southern most coasts of the southern hemisphere yet, but I suspect, if it is real, then it soon will...

Last and not least...

This is all just guess work, based on a theory I've been playing around with. None of it is guaranteed to be factual and I did not and will not claim it to be factual; nor do I have any actual facts nor any actual science to back it up...

I could go grab a few you tube vids and put them up to back my theories but then there will always be those who raise the B.S. flag, and I fully expect some still will...

So, take it or leave it...

This is just a theory that I've been pondering over...

You're all welcome to share your thoughts, or rise the B.S. flag...

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You should have ended it with Pluto,... Many will soon realize that Pluto is PX,.. just sayin!
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You should have ended it with Pluto,... Many will soon realize that Pluto is PX,.. just sayin!
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how does that make sense? care to explain or is this just more verbal diarrhea?
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Astromut will be on to comment on this thread at some point.

Did you know he NEVER sleeps! How is that possible I wonder??
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I dont know if this has anything to do with anything but last saturday we experienced things casting two shadows at our property...the second shadow was very light.

Is this possible?
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[link to youtu.be] watch this..there is no Nibiru...Now if I dangle my computer from the left side of my window and then swing it back and forth just long enough so that I can hit a letter then I would pick out this ..nasa scientist debunks stupid Nibiru crap..Just sayin...
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Every one calls B.S. on Nibiru because, obviously when we all step outside on a nice clear, sunny day and look up, we don't see anything else other then our own Sun...

Or, there is the case where amateur astronomers such as myself, who have powerful Solar filters for our Telescopes that lets us view the Sun safely with our telescopes, and yet we still do not see any "second sun" or other mysterious object out there.

Why is this?

The answer is simple.

Nibiru, or Planet X, or whatever it is; is not actually orbiting on our own solar elliptic. Meaning, its not aligned with the rest of the planets.

Similar to how Pluto is offset, yet we can still see it along with all the others because its offset is only to a minor degree; so we still see it traveling through the sky along the same line as all the other planets, our own moon and even our sun.

Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis.

After it passes, it will pass to the north, and swing around the sun and then shoot back out into space, but not before its binary orbit with or sun causes dramatic changes in the solar system.

We can see these changes in our own sun right now as its approaching.

The sun is moving across the sky faster, and it is rising and setting in vastly different locations compared to where it was 2 or 3 years ago.

I sit in an office, with a window that faces out directly west. I see the sun setting behind the same trees, and same building, every day.

For the past 3 years, the point where it slip beneath the tree line, has moved nearly a full 5 feet of distance from one side of the window, to the other side of the window...

This is because, like every binary out there, with the two come close to converging, they speed up and swing rapidly around each other.

Its like this.

Tie a Ball to a piece of string, and stand in one spot and swing it around you as though you were the sun, and it were orbiting you.

Once every orbit, speed up your swing and then relax it, and keep doing that... the ball spins around you but once every orbit it speds up, and then slows, and then speds up, and then slows...

With a binary solar system, both of the binarys do this speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down; as they approach each other. In our case, this happens on a period of thousands of years. But then the actual "swing" where their orbits converge and cause them both to rapidly speed up as they swing through each others orbital path and slip into the inside of each others orbit for a very short period; which to us on Earth can last only a matter of months, if not a full year...

Our Sun, and whatever Nibiru is, will be inside each others orbits before the end of 2012. When they finally do pass to the inside of each others orbits, this is the point where they rapidly swing back around and then pass once more to the outside of each others orbits.

But once their on the inside...

THEN...

We ALL, will start seeing some exciting things happening in our sky!

It won't last long, and then they'll pass through each others orbits once more, and both will again be on the outside of each others orbits and now moving away from each other with Nibiru or whatever it is, seemingly swinging back and reversing its direction in our sky and now moving away from us along our southern polar axis until it is gone again...

We see our Sun rise and set every day, from the east, to the west...

This will not be the case with Nibiru.

It will rise, and set, from the south, to the north; and then from the north to the south, as it swings around our Sun and this will last only a very short period of time, and then it will be gone again. It may remain visible from the southern tips of South America and Africa for a short while longer, and probably still from the southern coast of Australia, but eventually it will be gone from their horizons as well and will never be seen again for thousands of years...

This is why, most of us in the more modern nations of the Northern Hemispehere always call B.S. on these claims because we can't see it yet... it hasn't "risen" from over our horizon yet...

Its likely still not yet even risen over the horizons of the southern most coasts of the southern hemisphere yet, but I suspect, if it is real, then it soon will...

Last and not least...

This is all just guess work, based on a theory I've been playing around with. None of it is guaranteed to be factual and I did not and will not claim it to be factual; nor do I have any actual facts nor any actual science to back it up...

I could go grab a few you tube vids and put them up to back my theories but then there will always be those who raise the B.S. flag, and I fully expect some still will...

So, take it or leave it...

This is just a theory that I've been pondering over...

You're all welcome to share your thoughts, or rise the B.S. flag...
 Quoting: Nyarlathotep75


All nonsense, you are aware the earth orbits the sun! It doesn't matter what plain it's orbiting on! It would be visible now it would be the third most visible object in our night sky! My favourite part

"Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis."

You are aware you can see the whole of the whole of the southern night sky from anywhere below the equator, you don't have to be at the south pole!
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Every one calls B.S. on Nibiru because, obviously when we all step outside on a nice clear, sunny day and look up, we don't see anything else other then our own Sun...

Or, there is the case where amateur astronomers such as myself, who have powerful Solar filters for our Telescopes that lets us view the Sun safely with our telescopes, and yet we still do not see any "second sun" or other mysterious object out there.

Why is this?

The answer is simple.

Nibiru, or Planet X, or whatever it is; is not actually orbiting on our own solar elliptic. Meaning, its not aligned with the rest of the planets.

Similar to how Pluto is offset, yet we can still see it along with all the others because its offset is only to a minor degree; so we still see it traveling through the sky along the same line as all the other planets, our own moon and even our sun.

Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis.

After it passes, it will pass to the north, and swing around the sun and then shoot back out into space, but not before its binary orbit with or sun causes dramatic changes in the solar system.

We can see these changes in our own sun right now as its approaching.

The sun is moving across the sky faster, and it is rising and setting in vastly different locations compared to where it was 2 or 3 years ago.

I sit in an office, with a window that faces out directly west. I see the sun setting behind the same trees, and same building, every day.

For the past 3 years, the point where it slip beneath the tree line, has moved nearly a full 5 feet of distance from one side of the window, to the other side of the window...

This is because, like every binary out there, with the two come close to converging, they speed up and swing rapidly around each other.

Its like this.

Tie a Ball to a piece of string, and stand in one spot and swing it around you as though you were the sun, and it were orbiting you.

Once every orbit, speed up your swing and then relax it, and keep doing that... the ball spins around you but once every orbit it speds up, and then slows, and then speds up, and then slows...

With a binary solar system, both of the binarys do this speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down; as they approach each other. In our case, this happens on a period of thousands of years. But then the actual "swing" where their orbits converge and cause them both to rapidly speed up as they swing through each others orbital path and slip into the inside of each others orbit for a very short period; which to us on Earth can last only a matter of months, if not a full year...

Our Sun, and whatever Nibiru is, will be inside each others orbits before the end of 2012. When they finally do pass to the inside of each others orbits, this is the point where they rapidly swing back around and then pass once more to the outside of each others orbits.

But once their on the inside...

THEN...

We ALL, will start seeing some exciting things happening in our sky!

It won't last long, and then they'll pass through each others orbits once more, and both will again be on the outside of each others orbits and now moving away from each other with Nibiru or whatever it is, seemingly swinging back and reversing its direction in our sky and now moving away from us along our southern polar axis until it is gone again...

We see our Sun rise and set every day, from the east, to the west...

This will not be the case with Nibiru.

It will rise, and set, from the south, to the north; and then from the north to the south, as it swings around our Sun and this will last only a very short period of time, and then it will be gone again. It may remain visible from the southern tips of South America and Africa for a short while longer, and probably still from the southern coast of Australia, but eventually it will be gone from their horizons as well and will never be seen again for thousands of years...

This is why, most of us in the more modern nations of the Northern Hemispehere always call B.S. on these claims because we can't see it yet... it hasn't "risen" from over our horizon yet...

Its likely still not yet even risen over the horizons of the southern most coasts of the southern hemisphere yet, but I suspect, if it is real, then it soon will...

Last and not least...

This is all just guess work, based on a theory I've been playing around with. None of it is guaranteed to be factual and I did not and will not claim it to be factual; nor do I have any actual facts nor any actual science to back it up...

I could go grab a few you tube vids and put them up to back my theories but then there will always be those who raise the B.S. flag, and I fully expect some still will...

So, take it or leave it...

This is just a theory that I've been pondering over...

You're all welcome to share your thoughts, or rise the B.S. flag...
 Quoting: Nyarlathotep75


All nonsense, you are aware the earth orbits the sun! It doesn't matter what plain it's orbiting on! It would be visible now it would be the third most visible object in our night sky! My favourite part

"Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis."

You are aware you can see the whole of the whole of the southern night sky from anywhere below the equator, you don't have to be at the south pole!
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Clearly it's wearing harry potter's invisibility cloak
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Every one calls B.S. on Nibiru because, obviously when we all step outside on a nice clear, sunny day and look up, we don't see anything else other then our own Sun...

Or, there is the case where amateur astronomers such as myself, who have powerful Solar filters for our Telescopes that lets us view the Sun safely with our telescopes, and yet we still do not see any "second sun" or other mysterious object out there.

Why is this?

The answer is simple.

Nibiru, or Planet X, or whatever it is; is not actually orbiting on our own solar elliptic. Meaning, its not aligned with the rest of the planets.

Similar to how Pluto is offset, yet we can still see it along with all the others because its offset is only to a minor degree; so we still see it traveling through the sky along the same line as all the other planets, our own moon and even our sun.

Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis.

After it passes, it will pass to the north, and swing around the sun and then shoot back out into space, but not before its binary orbit with or sun causes dramatic changes in the solar system.

We can see these changes in our own sun right now as its approaching.

The sun is moving across the sky faster, and it is rising and setting in vastly different locations compared to where it was 2 or 3 years ago.

I sit in an office, with a window that faces out directly west. I see the sun setting behind the same trees, and same building, every day.

For the past 3 years, the point where it slip beneath the tree line, has moved nearly a full 5 feet of distance from one side of the window, to the other side of the window...

This is because, like every binary out there, with the two come close to converging, they speed up and swing rapidly around each other.

Its like this.

Tie a Ball to a piece of string, and stand in one spot and swing it around you as though you were the sun, and it were orbiting you.

Once every orbit, speed up your swing and then relax it, and keep doing that... the ball spins around you but once every orbit it speds up, and then slows, and then speds up, and then slows...

With a binary solar system, both of the binarys do this speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down; as they approach each other. In our case, this happens on a period of thousands of years. But then the actual "swing" where their orbits converge and cause them both to rapidly speed up as they swing through each others orbital path and slip into the inside of each others orbit for a very short period; which to us on Earth can last only a matter of months, if not a full year...

Our Sun, and whatever Nibiru is, will be inside each others orbits before the end of 2012. When they finally do pass to the inside of each others orbits, this is the point where they rapidly swing back around and then pass once more to the outside of each others orbits.

But once their on the inside...

THEN...

We ALL, will start seeing some exciting things happening in our sky!

It won't last long, and then they'll pass through each others orbits once more, and both will again be on the outside of each others orbits and now moving away from each other with Nibiru or whatever it is, seemingly swinging back and reversing its direction in our sky and now moving away from us along our southern polar axis until it is gone again...

We see our Sun rise and set every day, from the east, to the west...

This will not be the case with Nibiru.

It will rise, and set, from the south, to the north; and then from the north to the south, as it swings around our Sun and this will last only a very short period of time, and then it will be gone again. It may remain visible from the southern tips of South America and Africa for a short while longer, and probably still from the southern coast of Australia, but eventually it will be gone from their horizons as well and will never be seen again for thousands of years...

This is why, most of us in the more modern nations of the Northern Hemispehere always call B.S. on these claims because we can't see it yet... it hasn't "risen" from over our horizon yet...

Its likely still not yet even risen over the horizons of the southern most coasts of the southern hemisphere yet, but I suspect, if it is real, then it soon will...

Last and not least...

This is all just guess work, based on a theory I've been playing around with. None of it is guaranteed to be factual and I did not and will not claim it to be factual; nor do I have any actual facts nor any actual science to back it up...

I could go grab a few you tube vids and put them up to back my theories but then there will always be those who raise the B.S. flag, and I fully expect some still will...

So, take it or leave it...

This is just a theory that I've been pondering over...

You're all welcome to share your thoughts, or rise the B.S. flag...
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Astromut will be on to comment on this thread at some point.

Did you know he NEVER sleeps! How is that possible I wonder??
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Because he's multiple user's on the same user name, endlessly spreading disinformation cleverly disguised around scientific facts. Telling a full blown lie may be difficult, however, maintaining a lie embedded in truth is much easier and just as effective.
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what has astromut posted that's been a lie then? I'm sure you can enlighten us all.
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Astromut will be on to comment on this thread at some point.

Did you know he NEVER sleeps! How is that possible I wonder??
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Because he's multiple user's on the same user name, endlessly spreading disinformation cleverly disguised around scientific facts. Telling a full blown lie may be difficult, however, maintaining a lie embedded in truth is much easier and just as effective.
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I used to think that about astro but now just think he's a genuine geek! He's right and knows his stuff people just don't like that
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Sorry OP for the lack of open-mindedness and vision here...I feel ya'...I think what you've said is credible...
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Nibiru is a counterfeit version of the earth, it is behind the sun. It will swing round rapidly into view in the next few months and be seen clearly in the sky. It has happened before. Nibiru is hell. Earth is heaven, and so armageddon will begin
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Nibiru is a counterfeit version of the earth, it is behind the sun. It will swing round rapidly into view in the next few months and be seen clearly in the sky. It has happened before. Nibiru is hell. Earth is heaven, and so armageddon will begin
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Behind the sun!? The earth revolves around the sun! Think about it it can't stay behind the sun can it
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Nibiru is a counterfeit version of the earth, it is behind the sun. It will swing round rapidly into view in the next few months and be seen clearly in the sky. It has happened before. Nibiru is hell. Earth is heaven, and so armageddon will begin
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Behind the sun!? The earth revolves around the sun! Think about it it can't stay behind the sun can it
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This ^^
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All nonsense, you are aware the earth orbits the sun! It doesn't matter what plain it's orbiting on! It would be visible now it would be the third most visible object in our night sky! My favourite part

"Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis."

You are aware you can see the whole of the whole of the southern night sky from anywhere below the equator, you don't have to be at the south pole!
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Actually, you're quite incorrect.

You can only see the entire "night time" southern sky, from the southern hemisphere.

You can't see stars and planets, during the day time, unless its Venus of course which is often seen during the day time for a very brief time of day.

I suspect Nibiru is approaching from the south, but obscured behind our Sun as it is also approaching from our DAY side rather then the NIGHT side. At some point, it will move out from behind the sun as the two swing around each other, and this is when it will start to appear as though it were "rising" from over the horizon from a southern direction.

It, and the sun will then gradually play out a slow dance across the sky as they seemingly appear to approach each other on a collision course, which obviously is not going to happen, but this is how it could look as they start swing through each others inside orbits...

As I said... THAT, is when we ALL will start seeing some exciting things happening in the sky.

Not before.

We won't see it at all, until they're both inside each others orbits for a short period of time...

Oh, and once they pass each other, and swing away from each other, outside each others orbits...

Nibiru will then be moving away on our NIGHT side; and will be more visible during the night time sky in the southern hemipshere until its gone and appears as though it were just another distant star... It will remain like this for a couple thousand years until it reaches the far end of its own orbit, and start to loop back around... and then, over another couple thousand years, it will again be "approaching from the DAY side of the earth, from a southern direction"... which again is also all based on the Earths current Tilt in relation to our own Sun and the orbital planes of the other planets, as opposed to the oddly perpendicular orbit of Nibiru, or whatever it is...

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Psalm 90:4 .. 2 Peter 3:8
1 Day to God, is 1000 years on Earth.

Do the Math, Genesis was the Neolithic Revolution!

The 7 "Days" of Creation (including His 1 Day of Rest) were actually 7000 years, add that to the current 6000 Years of the Hebrew Calender dating Genesis to the Present, and you have 12,000 - 14,000 years! Right smack in the middle of the Neolithic Revolution, when the "Homo Sapien" species learned how to... "grow a brain"!
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Then Barack Hussein Obama is the spittin image of Nyarlathotep!
Behold! The Crawling Chaos! Nephren Ka! The Black Pharaoh!

Cthulhu is the High Priest of Azathoth. The high Priest spreads "the word" and prepares "the way", and introduces the religion...
Nyarlathotep is the Harbinger of Azathoth... the Harbinger heralds the imminent arrival of Azathoth!
Azathoth is the insane blind god in the Center of Chaos!

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All nonsense, you are aware the earth orbits the sun! It doesn't matter what plain it's orbiting on! It would be visible now it would be the third most visible object in our night sky! My favourite part

"Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis."

You are aware you can see the whole of the whole of the southern night sky from anywhere below the equator, you don't have to be at the south pole!
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Actually, you're quite incorrect.

You can only see the entire "night time" southern sky, from the southern hemisphere.

You can't see stars and planets, during the day time, unless its Venus of course which is often seen during the day time for a very brief time of day.

I suspect Nibiru is approaching from the south, but obscured behind our Sun as it is also approaching from our DAY side rather then the NIGHT side. At some point, it will move out from behind the sun as the two swing around each other, and this is when it will start to appear as though it were "rising" from over the horizon from a southern direction.

It, and the sun will then gradually play out a slow dance across the sky as they seemingly appear to approach each other on a collision course, which obviously is not going to happen, but this is how it could look as they start swing through each others inside orbits...

As I said... THAT, is when we ALL will start seeing some exciting things happening in the sky.

Not before.

We won't see it at all, until they're both inside each others orbits for a short period of time...

Oh, and once they pass each other, and swing away from each other, outside each others orbits...

Nibiru will then be moving away on our NIGHT side; and will be more visible during the night time sky in the southern hemipshere until its gone and appears as though it were just another distant star... It will remain like this for a couple thousand years until it reaches the far end of its own orbit, and start to loop back around... and then, over another couple thousand years, it will again be "approaching from the DAY side of the earth, from a southern direction"... which again is also all based on the Earths current Tilt in relation to our own Sun and the orbital planes of the other planets, as opposed to the oddly perpendicular orbit of Nibiru, or whatever it is...
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The southern hemisphere IS anywhere below the equator! Do you suffer from all 3 levels of retardation?
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All nonsense, you are aware the earth orbits the sun! It doesn't matter what plain it's orbiting on! It would be visible now it would be the third most visible object in our night sky! My favourite part

"Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis."

You are aware you can see the whole of the whole of the southern night sky from anywhere below the equator, you don't have to be at the south pole!
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Actually, you're quite incorrect.

You can only see the entire "night time" southern sky, from the southern hemisphere.

You can't see stars and planets, during the day time, unless its Venus of course which is often seen during the day time for a very brief time of day.

I suspect Nibiru is approaching from the south, but obscured behind our Sun as it is also approaching from our DAY side rather then the NIGHT side. At some point, it will move out from behind the sun as the two swing around each other, and this is when it will start to appear as though it were "rising" from over the horizon from a southern direction.

It, and the sun will then gradually play out a slow dance across the sky as they seemingly appear to approach each other on a collision course, which obviously is not going to happen, but this is how it could look as they start swing through each others inside orbits...

As I said... THAT, is when we ALL will start seeing some exciting things happening in the sky.

Not before.

We won't see it at all, until they're both inside each others orbits for a short period of time...

Oh, and once they pass each other, and swing away from each other, outside each others orbits...

Nibiru will then be moving away on our NIGHT side; and will be more visible during the night time sky in the southern hemipshere until its gone and appears as though it were just another distant star... It will remain like this for a couple thousand years until it reaches the far end of its own orbit, and start to loop back around... and then, over another couple thousand years, it will again be "approaching from the DAY side of the earth, from a southern direction"... which again is also all based on the Earths current Tilt in relation to our own Sun and the orbital planes of the other planets, as opposed to the oddly perpendicular orbit of Nibiru, or whatever it is...
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Also you say "behind our sun" we revolve around our sun what the fuck are you talking about?
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Finally a clear explanation

Thanks OP
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Astromut will be on to comment on this thread at some point.

Did you know he NEVER sleeps! How is that possible I wonder??
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Because he's multiple user's on the same user name, endlessly spreading disinformation cleverly disguised around scientific facts. Telling a full blown lie may be difficult, however, maintaining a lie embedded in truth is much easier and just as effective.
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Every one calls B.S. on Nibiru because, obviously when we all step outside on a nice clear, sunny day and look up, we don't see anything else other then our own Sun...

Or, there is the case where amateur astronomers such as myself, who have powerful Solar filters for our Telescopes that lets us view the Sun safely with our telescopes, and yet we still do not see any "second sun" or other mysterious object out there.

Why is this?

The answer is simple.

Nibiru, or Planet X, or whatever it is; is not actually orbiting on our own solar elliptic. Meaning, its not aligned with the rest of the planets.

Similar to how Pluto is offset, yet we can still see it along with all the others because its offset is only to a minor degree; so we still see it traveling through the sky along the same line as all the other planets, our own moon and even our sun.

Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis.

After it passes, it will pass to the north, and swing around the sun and then shoot back out into space, but not before its binary orbit with or sun causes dramatic changes in the solar system.

We can see these changes in our own sun right now as its approaching.

The sun is moving across the sky faster, and it is rising and setting in vastly different locations compared to where it was 2 or 3 years ago.

I sit in an office, with a window that faces out directly west. I see the sun setting behind the same trees, and same building, every day.

For the past 3 years, the point where it slip beneath the tree line, has moved nearly a full 5 feet of distance from one side of the window, to the other side of the window...

This is because, like every binary out there, with the two come close to converging, they speed up and swing rapidly around each other.

Its like this.

Tie a Ball to a piece of string, and stand in one spot and swing it around you as though you were the sun, and it were orbiting you.

Once every orbit, speed up your swing and then relax it, and keep doing that... the ball spins around you but once every orbit it speds up, and then slows, and then speds up, and then slows...

With a binary solar system, both of the binarys do this speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down; as they approach each other. In our case, this happens on a period of thousands of years. But then the actual "swing" where their orbits converge and cause them both to rapidly speed up as they swing through each others orbital path and slip into the inside of each others orbit for a very short period; which to us on Earth can last only a matter of months, if not a full year...

Our Sun, and whatever Nibiru is, will be inside each others orbits before the end of 2012. When they finally do pass to the inside of each others orbits, this is the point where they rapidly swing back around and then pass once more to the outside of each others orbits.

But once their on the inside...

THEN...

We ALL, will start seeing some exciting things happening in our sky!

It won't last long, and then they'll pass through each others orbits once more, and both will again be on the outside of each others orbits and now moving away from each other with Nibiru or whatever it is, seemingly swinging back and reversing its direction in our sky and now moving away from us along our southern polar axis until it is gone again...

We see our Sun rise and set every day, from the east, to the west...

This will not be the case with Nibiru.

It will rise, and set, from the south, to the north; and then from the north to the south, as it swings around our Sun and this will last only a very short period of time, and then it will be gone again. It may remain visible from the southern tips of South America and Africa for a short while longer, and probably still from the southern coast of Australia, but eventually it will be gone from their horizons as well and will never be seen again for thousands of years...

This is why, most of us in the more modern nations of the Northern Hemispehere always call B.S. on these claims because we can't see it yet... it hasn't "risen" from over our horizon yet...

Its likely still not yet even risen over the horizons of the southern most coasts of the southern hemisphere yet, but I suspect, if it is real, then it soon will...

Last and not least...

This is all just guess work, based on a theory I've been playing around with. None of it is guaranteed to be factual and I did not and will not claim it to be factual; nor do I have any actual facts nor any actual science to back it up...

I could go grab a few you tube vids and put them up to back my theories but then there will always be those who raise the B.S. flag, and I fully expect some still will...

So, take it or leave it...

This is just a theory that I've been pondering over...

You're all welcome to share your thoughts, or rise the B.S. flag...
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Try to make it clear for you one last time anything approaching the earth from the south as close as nibiru would be visible now night and day from anywhere below the equator which is called the southern hemisphere as you clearly wasn't aware of that. The earth rotates on its own axis and is tilted think about it we also revolve around the sun hence we can see the entire southern sky from anywhere below the equator nibiru cannot "hide"
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Sorry OP for the lack of open-mindedness and vision here...I feel ya'...I think what you've said is credible...
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I concur

in my opinion i think this is what will cause the magnetic pole shift

earth changes

people losing their mind

and then the dimensional shift into a new Christ consciousness

that is why tptb really want to start this war before this happens
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All nonsense, you are aware the earth orbits the sun! It doesn't matter what plain it's orbiting on! It would be visible now it would be the third most visible object in our night sky! My favourite part

"Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis."

You are aware you can see the whole of the whole of the southern night sky from anywhere below the equator, you don't have to be at the south pole!
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Actually, you're quite incorrect.

You can only see the entire "night time" southern sky, from the southern hemisphere.

You can't see stars and planets, during the day time, unless its Venus of course which is often seen during the day time for a very brief time of day.

I suspect Nibiru is approaching from the south, but obscured behind our Sun as it is also approaching from our DAY side rather then the NIGHT side. At some point, it will move out from behind the sun as the two swing around each other, and this is when it will start to appear as though it were "rising" from over the horizon from a southern direction.

It, and the sun will then gradually play out a slow dance across the sky as they seemingly appear to approach each other on a collision course, which obviously is not going to happen, but this is how it could look as they start swing through each others inside orbits...

As I said... THAT, is when we ALL will start seeing some exciting things happening in the sky.

Not before.

We won't see it at all, until they're both inside each others orbits for a short period of time...

Oh, and once they pass each other, and swing away from each other, outside each others orbits...

Nibiru will then be moving away on our NIGHT side; and will be more visible during the night time sky in the southern hemipshere until its gone and appears as though it were just another distant star... It will remain like this for a couple thousand years until it reaches the far end of its own orbit, and start to loop back around... and then, over another couple thousand years, it will again be "approaching from the DAY side of the earth, from a southern direction"... which again is also all based on the Earths current Tilt in relation to our own Sun and the orbital planes of the other planets, as opposed to the oddly perpendicular orbit of Nibiru, or whatever it is...
 Quoting: Nyarlathotep75


Also you say "behind our sun" we revolve around our sun what the fuck are you talking about?
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Indeed. If it was on our day side now, then 6 months from now it would be on our night side.... so what now OP???
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Every one calls B.S. on Nibiru because, obviously when we all step outside on a nice clear, sunny day and look up, we don't see anything else other then our own Sun...

Or, there is the case where amateur astronomers such as myself, who have powerful Solar filters for our Telescopes that lets us view the Sun safely with our telescopes, and yet we still do not see any "second sun" or other mysterious object out there.

Why is this?

The answer is simple.

Nibiru, or Planet X, or whatever it is; is not actually orbiting on our own solar elliptic. Meaning, its not aligned with the rest of the planets.

Similar to how Pluto is offset, yet we can still see it along with all the others because its offset is only to a minor degree; so we still see it traveling through the sky along the same line as all the other planets, our own moon and even our sun.

Nibiru however, is traveling on a much wider orbit that is aligned nearly perpendicular with the rest of the solar system; and is approaching at a slight angle that is lined roughly with the earths southern polar axis.

After it passes, it will pass to the north, and swing around the sun and then shoot back out into space, but not before its binary orbit with or sun causes dramatic changes in the solar system.

We can see these changes in our own sun right now as its approaching.

The sun is moving across the sky faster, and it is rising and setting in vastly different locations compared to where it was 2 or 3 years ago.

I sit in an office, with a window that faces out directly west. I see the sun setting behind the same trees, and same building, every day.

For the past 3 years, the point where it slip beneath the tree line, has moved nearly a full 5 feet of distance from one side of the window, to the other side of the window...

This is because, like every binary out there, with the two come close to converging, they speed up and swing rapidly around each other.

Its like this.

Tie a Ball to a piece of string, and stand in one spot and swing it around you as though you were the sun, and it were orbiting you.

Once every orbit, speed up your swing and then relax it, and keep doing that... the ball spins around you but once every orbit it speds up, and then slows, and then speds up, and then slows...

With a binary solar system, both of the binarys do this speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down; as they approach each other. In our case, this happens on a period of thousands of years. But then the actual "swing" where their orbits converge and cause them both to rapidly speed up as they swing through each others orbital path and slip into the inside of each others orbit for a very short period; which to us on Earth can last only a matter of months, if not a full year...

Our Sun, and whatever Nibiru is, will be inside each others orbits before the end of 2012. When they finally do pass to the inside of each others orbits, this is the point where they rapidly swing back around and then pass once more to the outside of each others orbits.

But once their on the inside...

THEN...

We ALL, will start seeing some exciting things happening in our sky!

It won't last long, and then they'll pass through each others orbits once more, and both will again be on the outside of each others orbits and now moving away from each other with Nibiru or whatever it is, seemingly swinging back and reversing its direction in our sky and now moving away from us along our southern polar axis until it is gone again...

We see our Sun rise and set every day, from the east, to the west...

This will not be the case with Nibiru.

It will rise, and set, from the south, to the north; and then from the north to the south, as it swings around our Sun and this will last only a very short period of time, and then it will be gone again. It may remain visible from the southern tips of South America and Africa for a short while longer, and probably still from the southern coast of Australia, but eventually it will be gone from their horizons as well and will never be seen again for thousands of years...

This is why, most of us in the more modern nations of the Northern Hemispehere always call B.S. on these claims because we can't see it yet... it hasn't "risen" from over our horizon yet...

Its likely still not yet even risen over the horizons of the southern most coasts of the southern hemisphere yet, but I suspect, if it is real, then it soon will...

Last and not least...

This is all just guess work, based on a theory I've been playing around with. None of it is guaranteed to be factual and I did not and will not claim it to be factual; nor do I have any actual facts nor any actual science to back it up...

I could go grab a few you tube vids and put them up to back my theories but then there will always be those who raise the B.S. flag, and I fully expect some still will...

So, take it or leave it...

This is just a theory that I've been pondering over...

You're all welcome to share your thoughts, or rise the B.S. flag...
 Quoting: Nyarlathotep75


Try to make it clear for you one last time anything approaching the earth from the south as close as nibiru would be visible now night and day from anywhere below the equator which is called the southern hemisphere as you clearly wasn't aware of that. The earth rotates on its own axis and is tilted think about it we also revolve around the sun hence we can see the entire southern sky from anywhere below the equator nibiru cannot "hide"
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This.
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wishful thinking...if it's there why no one can see it without the need of camera or video lenses... which are nothing more then flares... real expensive lenses produce no such flare... and when that person sees it [ this second sun] why alerting the people surrounding him/her or call the TV crew ... is she or he living on a deserted country/island ?
but your leader says that Obobo which she did not like at first will be the person to break this NASA/gov cover-up very soon ... but i won't hold my breath...the economy will collapse way before such event happens considering how indebted every country is right now.
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Or, there is the case where amateur astronomers such as myself, who have powerful Solar filters for our Telescopes that lets us view the Sun safely with our telescopes, and yet we still do not see any "second sun" or other mysterious object out there.

...
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May I ask you what kind of scope you own and how you align it to true north?

Thanx


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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Or, there is the case where amateur astronomers such as myself, who have powerful Solar filters for our Telescopes that lets us view the Sun safely with our telescopes, and yet we still do not see any "second sun" or other mysterious object out there.

...
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May I ask you what kind of scope you own and how you align it to true north?

Thanx


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He has no idea hydra.... OP is a fool not an astronomer.

(waits for OP to reply with wiki info) chuckle
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[link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Or, there is the case where amateur astronomers such as myself, who have powerful Solar filters for our Telescopes that lets us view the Sun safely with our telescopes, and yet we still do not see any "second sun" or other mysterious object out there.

...
 Quoting: Nyarlathotep75

May I ask you what kind of scope you own and how you align it to true north?

Thanx


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He has no idea hydra.... OP is a fool not an astronomer.

(waits for OP to reply with wiki info) chuckle
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Argggh - you just spoiled the party - :-(


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