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FBI says the constitution is getting in the way of stopping "extremists".

 
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Well then by all mean tear it up and let these commie pigs rule the country.I'm sick of these commie pigs.
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4 more years of dirtbag and the Constitution and Bill of Rights will be dead. After all, that is his goal.....
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More than most are prepared to admit, if he gets shot in the head(apparently there have already been arrests in regard to assassination attempts by individuals against potus), but what about another internal Kennedy coup, but this time with the explicit idea of creating the beast from the leftovers, IMO
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Well now.. The ONE thing that I know of that Obamanation didn't lie about was wanting to tear America down and rebuilding it. Well.. Why do people get their panties in a bunch if he isn't lying for ones? I mean.. many of the same folks that voted for him have bad feelings for him.

I have bad feelings for his politics, not him. I feel sorry for the guy... He got mixed up with the wrong crowd at an early age and is still lashing out.

You have to wonder about, as you mentioned, a Kennedy type coup.
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youll be ok just buy a box of twinkes , coloring book and pens, nothing to fear.. go back to playing.
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So they are basically admitting that the extremists are them?
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The constitution is getting in the way of stopping Extreme Acts such as collecting rain water of your own property, for example.

No, wait... he is already jailed.
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good one.
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4 more years of dirtbag and the Constitution and Bill of Rights will be dead. After all, that is his goal.....
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More than most are prepared to admit, if he gets shot in the head(apparently there have already been arrests in regard to assassination attempts by individuals against potus), but what about another internal Kennedy coup, but this time with the explicit idea of creating the beast from the leftovers, IMO
 Quoting: FHL(C) nli 21698958


Well now.. The ONE thing that I know of that Obamanation didn't lie about was wanting to tear America down and rebuilding it. Well.. Why do people get their panties in a bunch if he isn't lying for ones? I mean.. many of the same folks that voted for him have bad feelings for him.

I have bad feelings for his politics, not him. I feel sorry for the guy... He got mixed up with the wrong crowd at an early age and is still lashing out.

You have to wonder about, as you mentioned, a Kennedy type coup.
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youll be ok just buy a box of twinkes , coloring book and pens, nothing to fear.. go back to playing.
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Mmmm Twinkies... But I don't take food from strangers .. especially crazed Obamanation supporters.
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Geez, the FBI was using the guy to infiltrate right-wing/neo-nazi groups.
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Duh, the Constitution is for the Protection of Extreme Individualists.

Remember those rebels that refused the Crown ?
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I finally give in..

FBI-Famous But Incompetent.

ATF- Assholes Traitors and Fuckups

ATFE Assholes Traitors Fuckups Etc.

DEA Doing Eric's Agenda

SS Shielding Snakes

Anymore wordfun?

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4 more years of dirtbag and the Constitution and Bill of Rights will be dead. After all, that is his goal.....
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He only needed 4 yrs. To do whats really needed...send it ALL spiraling downwards and imploding from within.
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I gather from the comments on this thread that you think that someone committing mass murder is just expressing their constitutional rights. You seem to think that these rights are more important than the rights of innocent victims.
The majority of GLPers have some pretty extreme right wing views in my opinion. Also the majority are happy to discuss their mental illnesses as well. I have my doubts that most of you should have access to a personal arsenal either.
Highly armed loonies seem to be the cause of all these mass shootings.
Not quite extinct!!!!!!!!
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We need to do something about dangerous people. We shouldn't choose to just sit around until there are helpless victims. The problem is that government needs more authority than it has to deal with extremists, but it is dangerous to give our government that power because of its history of abusing power given it. The only hope is some kind of compromise. Otherwise, we are letting it stand as morally permissible for future wrongdoers to have more protection than innocent bystanders. Government is supposed to stop threats and it can't do that with the mentality that a crime needs to first be in progress for them to do something about a potential situation. We need the technology to access thoughts, to see who is too dangerous BEFORE they hurt someone. To not stop dangerous people, to argue against doing something proactively is to aid their future crimes. So, we need a shift from a perspective of doing right by those "who have not offended (yet)" to doing right by those "who are good members of society."
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FUCK these people -_-
How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. She stands there with the bulb in the socket and waits for the world to revolve around her.
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fuck that. u cannot charge someone with something they have no knowledge theyve done yet. bullshit kid. that aint justice. thats fd up.
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Uh yea sure. We believe you.
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Oddly enuff these agencies are not constitutional.
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Were Doomed...
A lot of 'good people' died so that you & I can know what it's like to live in freedom....We failed them.
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our darkest days are still ahead, like the new zealand guy said, but its all 4 the better. its nwo or unescapable nuclear war between nations. eventually another hitler type will appear unless the problems are solved now. USA is attempting to set foundation for future generations to survive and prosper w/o threat of nuclear war. i cant describe whats happening any clearer.
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[link to thedailyattack.com]

The FBI and other government law-enforcement agencies have been convinced for a while that terrorism from extremist domestic organizations is just as dangerous as terrorism from foreign organizations, but efforts by authorities to detect and pre-empt violent extremists have faced serious legal and political hurdles, including free speech guarantees and pushback from political lobbies suspicious of the government’s motives

After learning that Wade Michael Page, a former Army veteran and white supremacist, was responsible for shooting six people at a Wisconsin Sikh temple, journalists and analysts noted that the FBI as well as other government law-enforcement agencies have been conviced for a while that terrorism from extremist domestic organizations is just as dangerous as terrorism from foreign organizations.


Didn't think people would click on a link that says homelandsecurity.whatever so this is the only other one I have found so far.

Those pesky founding fathers.
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I would rather have extremists rather then a more powerful government.
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fuck that. u cannot charge someone with something they have no knowledge theyve done yet. bullshit kid. that aint justice. thats fd up.
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So then we should accept your alternative where the technology exists to monitor dangerous people and allow people to think about going on shooting sprees (or the like) habitually with no action until they finally decide to do so? Sounds like the cause of death is the failure to be prepared. If you are not subject to the law until you offend then that also means that others are not protected by effect of the law. I think you'll find that this seemingly patriotic impulse is poorly thought out. We need to protect people who are members of society in good standing and that means stopping potential offenders before they act. The constitution can enable offenders just as it shields those who have not yet offended. Ultimately, the safety of good members of society is a more important priority than the freedom of those who would harm others without just cause. People who would harm without just cause are people who are going to have to be dealt with eventually, constitution or not. Why should we wait until there are victims? If the role of government is simply to respond, it doesn't make much of a dent in the decay of crime and corruption that threatens the good of society. I don't believe we should be idle by choice. There is something seriously wrong when criminals have rights even in their violating and the victims do not have any protection.
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bsflag

The "FBI" would never say such a thing. The head of the FBI, and his gay British lover, thats a different story...
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I gather from the comments on this thread that you think that someone committing mass murder is just expressing their constitutional rights. You seem to think that these rights are more important than the rights of innocent victims.
The majority of GLPers have some pretty extreme right wing views in my opinion. Also the majority are happy to discuss their mental illnesses as well. I have my doubts that most of you should have access to a personal arsenal either.
Highly armed loonies seem to be the cause of all these mass shootings.
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Very amusing post from a guy with the mass murderer Guevara as an avatar.
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look at the FBI top ten. it is the who's who of gone rogue agents. it has no basis in reality. why look for some douche for ten years with no leads? he knows too much. plain and simple.
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fuck that. u cannot charge someone with something they have no knowledge theyve done yet. bullshit kid. that aint justice. thats fd up.
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So then we should accept your alternative where the technology exists to monitor dangerous people and allow people to think about going on shooting sprees (or the like) habitually with no action until they finally decide to do so? Sounds like the cause of death is the failure to be prepared. If you are not subject to the law until you offend then that also means that others are not protected by effect of the law. I think you'll find that this seemingly patriotic impulse is poorly thought out. We need to protect people who are members of society in good standing and that means stopping potential offenders before they act. The constitution can enable offenders just as it shields those who have not yet offended. Ultimately, the safety of good members of society is a more important priority than the freedom of those who would harm others without just cause. People who would harm without just cause are people who are going to have to be dealt with eventually, constitution or not. Why should we wait until there are victims? If the role of government is simply to respond, it doesn't make much of a dent in the decay of crime and corruption that threatens the good of society. I don't believe we should be idle by choice. There is something seriously wrong when criminals have rights even in their violating and the victims do not have any protection.
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Your argument is classic misdirection.
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I'm impressed, we have Wolfowitz, G.W., & Cheney posting here tonight! :) I reckon even Stalin, Hitler, Mao, & Pol Pot would be proud of the nationalistic fervor... they all had their own versions of Neocons too.... look at their great successes for the good of their citizens & humanity!
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I gather from the comments on this thread that you think that someone committing mass murder is just expressing their constitutional rights. You seem to think that these rights are more important than the rights of innocent victims.
The majority of GLPers have some pretty extreme right wing views in my opinion. Also the majority are happy to discuss their mental illnesses as well. I have my doubts that most of you should have access to a personal arsenal either.
Highly armed loonies seem to be the cause of all these mass shootings.
 Quoting: Thylacine

i gather from this comment that pointing the finger at LAW ABIDING gun owners is your lame underpaid shill way of deflecting the REAL crimes being committed by alphabet agencies around the world. for all i know these mass shootings are being orchestrated by the same people who paid you to write this nonsense. the US will not surrender weapons. give it up AGENT.
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the point of govt isn't to protect only its citizens, but also to protect govt from becoming to all encompassing. your minority report bullshit is exactly the opposite of freedom and what usa symbolizes
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Damn those Ron Paul supporters and their "constitution" Fucking terrorists.
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While old J Edgar Hoover would occasionally make an end run around the constitution to get info he really wanted - info that wound up in his "private" files - he was smart enough to publicly support the constitution of the US as a SACRED DOCUMENT and HE HELD IT INVIOLATE!

For the FBI to complain about the CONSTITUTION - that's fucking absurd! Tell them to shut up, and get back to earning their lofty tax-payer funded salaries. Their area of responsibility or duty is not to comment or even voice an opinion on the CONSTITUTION. They have their job responsibilities and CONSTITUTION review or CONSTITUTIONAL law is NOT among them.

This is like a bunch of Baseball Players complaining about the ownership and the Rules of the Game under which they've signed contracts to play! Bottom line: It's none of their fucking business and they should keep their efforts concentrated on what is their job and their duty!
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The FBI, CIA, DHS and all other 'agencies' should be abolished immediately.

Executive Branch, Legislative Branch, and Judicial Branch are the entire U.S. federal government.

Period.
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NO THE FBI, THE GOVERNMENT, THE CIA, and ALL THE OTHER CORRUPT AGENCIES ARE THE EXTREMISTS AND THE TERRORISTS.. WE ARE IN TROUBLE BUT THE NON SHEEP ALREADY KNEW THIS.
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SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

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our darkest days are still ahead, like the new zealand guy said, but its all 4 the better. its nwo or unescapable nuclear war between nations. eventually another hitler type will appear unless the problems are solved now. USA is attempting to set foundation for future generations to survive and prosper w/o threat of nuclear war. i cant describe whats happening any clearer.
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I've been reading your Neo-con pro-NWO disguised as American patriotism bullshit posts all night.

You new around here? Cause...damn, you're obvious.

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